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It's gone way beyond asking if she was suffering from some mental defect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 04:54 PM

No they aren't. They've helped millions of dudes get off the sidelines in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 04:46 PM
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No, but I know a ton of Chads and they all had to play the "try again" game. Have you dated women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 09:00 AM
1

It's an interesting thought exercise, but that's all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 08:50 AM
1

Again, that's an interesting theory, but it was the PUAs that taught men you have to push through the initial resistance, no doesn't always mean no, etc. I'm sure even Brad Pitt has to play the "try again" game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 08:42 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 08:35 AM
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Yeah, that's one theory. I think if went with your " never try again" approach, birth rates would collapse even faster. I don't think I'm crazy in saying that an overwhelming majority of women fall into the "try again" camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 08:29 AM
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Agreed. Too bad creepy is highly subjective and we don't know if you'll find us creepy or not. Adding to the confusion is when a set of creepy behaviors works on this woman, but upsets that one. Or, as a guy, witnessing the same behavior being welcomed from some guys and considered creepy from other guys. B
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 07:53 PM
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Yeah, I've found the drunken sailor approach is much more effective than being a gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 07:49 PM
1

I get that, which is why I said it's a giant PITA for everyone. Now the gal that communicates directly gets "harassed" because other women are playing the "no means try again" game. Then some guy who genuinely respects women inadvertently harrasses a woman because tbh, most women play the "no means try again" game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 07:47 PM
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So you're attracted exclusively to men? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 07:40 PM
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I'd bail for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 05:23 PM
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Yeah, it's unfortunate that women have taken to shaming men for approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 05:22 PM
1

Yes, more at bats leads to more hits, but you also have to have quality at bats. Ie if you ask out million women, but don't brush your teeth or shower beforehand, you may go zero for a million.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 05:20 PM
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Be careful not to take this approach too far. Women don't always mean no when they say no. Sometimes, they mean try again, try harder, which of course is just a giant PITA for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 05:16 PM
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You're unaware women do all that stuff too????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 05:43 PM
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I've had kids, there is plenty of warning about postpartum depression prior to birth and tons of screening post birth. Let's not pretend this broad wasn't getting medical/psychiatric care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:52 PM
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I think it means Mouse Utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 12:03 AM
3

It does seem toxicity and misandry have become the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 12:03 AM
1

Great and thus we have no basis for a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 04:37 PM
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No, I don't have to prove anything. In reality, if you were honestly concerned about the issue or evidence, you could have done a google search just as quickly as you typed your reply. Reality is you're just here to be argumentative. That said, I already offered evidence to which you responded by redefining family. If you're just gonna redefine words to skirt the evidence provided, then there is no basis for a debate. Family is whatever you say it is. Since family is now an amorphous word with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 05:06 AM
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Rules for thee and not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 01:27 AM
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If you need somebody to "show" it to you, then you are not paying attention. The fact that you have to redefine the word to "prove" family isn't disintegrating speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 01:25 AM
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Well you're welcome to define family however you want. No kids, no family and that's what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:37 PM
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When 3 dozen women in row tell you bald isn't the issue without you bringing up, it's clearly an issue. I was also a nice guy, so that was working against me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 04:40 PM
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So is my family. I mean on a societal level. Fewer marriages, fewer children, fewer families, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 04:16 PM
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So the continued eroding of the family and marriage is just accidental???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 12:08 PM
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Gotta agree with ladies here. In the end they just aren't that interested in men, unless you're one of the rare top 5-10% guys. I had buddy who was a mythical top 5% hype of guy, maybe top 1%. Women figuratively and sometimes literally attacked this in guy public, so when they want to, they don't hesitate to approach in the least. When they want to, they'll offer to have sex in the bathroom with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 06:22 AM
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Nice try, but as I said the true goal here is to destroy marriage, family, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:47 AM
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Completely unrealistic. The other partner in essence would be enslaved for a lifetime. But that often seems to be the goal, undermine family, children, marriage, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 01:06 AM
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It's a lot of things. I advocate for marriage, but in reality, when I look at all my close friends that got married, cheated on and divorced are the common themes. Always divorced for things outside their control. If I'm a 25 year old dude, I start doing the math, I'm not that interested in putting forth much effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:08 AM
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I have a couple decades of dating experience that confirms beyond a shadow of doubt that bald is not beautiful. That said, it was a vast improvement when I stopped fighting it and just shaved it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:01 AM
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I think you're paying attention to the most toxic parts of the Red Pill and presenting as the whole sum of the Red Pill. For the most part the Red Pill is just there to dispel the gaslighting of men that's been going on for decades. The vast majority of the Red Pill is hey look at this data, dovetails with evo psych and many/most of men's dating/relationship experiences. Here's a video with 300k likes - this is what women think of men, dating and relationships. Men are welcome to do with this in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:32 AM
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You didn't say it, then literally repeated the accusation. Couldn't make it this up if I tried. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You don't get to be the gender leading in Kill Death Ratios, random acts of major and minor violence, sexual assault of all genders, ages, and let's just add species because justice got farm animals, and also continue to insist you're the ones blessed by nature with reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:18 PM
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AOC was playing part. If she wanted kids, she'd have kids. She was just taking the opportunity to play the martyr. And I noticed you called AOC smart, I question that assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:17 AM
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Interesting, because some men are psychopaths, no men are logical and rational. Women by far (like 100%) lead in neonatal homicide, does that mean women are not empathic, not to be trusted around children, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:07 AM
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I know the best way to get a dog to like you is kinda ignore and yeah it's a similar concept with women. It is counter intuitive and contradicts what women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:57 PM
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I don't remember voting to overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think it was ever even on the ballot. What men would like to see is women stop killing babies at rate that makes Mao, Stalin & the mustache man look like amateurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:53 PM
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I did stay at home with my kids as much as possible. I'd love to stay at home with them more. Why do you gals hate staying at home with the kiddos so much???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:49 PM
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Yes, you all have crazy standards. 6ft tall, 6 figure income, 6 pack abs. Here's a myhe exercise for you. You want a man od average or above height, income and looks. That comes to .53 or 12.5% of men. Add on that you (might) want him to be single, liberal, etc, now we're into the single digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:45 PM
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I don't think men want women carrying dead fetuses longer than necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:04 PM
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If I believed that was true, then I wouldn't put any blame on women. OTOH, the single guys I know, know how to cook and clean, they aren't total slots.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:55 AM
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I don't think they care, see baby deletion statistics (both while in utero and post birth). They'd rather work and put their kids in daycare than stay at home with their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:52 AM
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Ultimately, women don't want to look at how they contributed to this (aka accept accountability). They made shared spaces unsafe spaces for men to approach women. They've basically left dating apps as the only safe space and we know how bad those are. But they don't bear any responsibly for the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 08:34 PM
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And incel is of course tied to domestic terrorist in the waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:49 PM
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Good point. Once I stopped trying to get women to like me and treated them with disregard, they suddenly liked me. It's weird because it's the exact opposite of what women say and goes completely against logic, but that is indeed how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:33 PM
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Male loneliness is certainly caused by women. Not exclusively so, but clearly they've made a massive contribution. Furthermore, you need to dive into the data about loneliness a little more. You picked 2 pieces of data that suggest men aren't more lonely, there is a lot more data out there. That said, men drop out of the dating game citing the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Are men responsible for dropping out? Absolutely. However, those same men see data that suggests it's pretty hopeless if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 07:13 PM
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Men are suggest CSA as a solution to inceldom or a singular man suggested that???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:57 PM
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There were people that he was chill with, even if they didn’t know what he was doing up to people. There were people in 50 Cent’s documentary that admitted they were all right with P. Diddy‘s actions until they became victims themselves. And WTF does that have to do with this conversation? I said dudes were being A-holes, not physically and sexually assaulting people. This is just like anybody says something Red Pilled and I have to hear about Andrew Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:50 PM
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EDIT: And the fact you don’t realize bragging about being nice, hoping to get laid is also a asshole thing to do speak volumes. My social circles were awesome. Loyal dudes to a fault. If it weren't for those A-holes, I may have never figured women out. EDIT: Girl I'm courting asks what I do outside of work and I tell her something I do outside of work that (I thought) portrayed me in a good. Yeah, what an asshole move. But guys are also supposed to be open. Give me a break. Had I known better, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 04:47 PM
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That's an impossibility because one set of principles will always but up against another set of principles that are more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:27 AM
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I think pointing out hypocrisy in general is common. Personally, I don't believe in hypocrisy. I believe behind every double standard there is a "bigger" single standard. So in the case of "feminist" dating toxic Chads it just means looks trumps personality/behavior. To put it another way, I could say don't go into burning buildings and I mean that 110%, but I would run into a burning building to save my wife or kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:52 PM
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Yeah it must be that, not that my daughter, wife and women in general just aren't good at or interested in certain things like fixing cars, building ebikes, plumbing, etc, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 11:39 PM
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This is what I am replying to. Are you saying very few women make that claim? If so, then fine. End of conversation. I said the above quote. No, I don't think women are saying "be nicer", but there is an absolute ton of "be nice" messaging going on. But wetent you just explaining how youre fine being around assholes as long as theyre nice to you? I didn't say I exclusively hung around A-holes. Furthermore, I put conditions on who these guys are - guys who struggle with dating. And conversely, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:23 PM
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Why do you have to have to go to insane comparisons like P-Diddy? Exactly, demonstrating I'm a nice person not only did not help me in dating, it actually torpedoed those dates. And why would I take the opportunity to demonstrate that I'm a nice guy? Because woman after woman after woman said, "Be nice". If women are turned off by the nice attributes of the men that are courting them, then by definition they are not looking for nice guys. M
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 08:11 PM
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Exactly! I wouldn't take exception if it was just women who rejected me, who decided not to tell me an uncomfortable truth. But the message gets reinforced by numerous women whining about how they were treated poorly or guys just wanting sex. Then you talk to your gal pals and it's the same message about being nice. And wouldn't be that bad if being nice just didn't help your cause in the dating scene. It's the fact that being nice disqualifies you. And then despite witnessing it and experiencin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:59 PM
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No, you assume it was "so toxic". That's on you and others that turned it something toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:47 PM
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They weren't saying be abusive, they were saying be an A-hole. I can say this, when I started being more of an a-hole and less of Mr. Nice Guy, women responded more positively and even pursued me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:44 PM
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Ehhh, I'm not so sure it isn't intentional. I'd be more apt to accept your version, but dozens upon dozens of women told me "bald is beautiful"... all while rejecting me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:22 PM
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I know for 100% my wife & daughter aren't capable or maybe I'm the victim weaponized incompetence, but I suspect it's just an incapablity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:15 PM
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But the exception isn't the rule. Must the guys I know who struggle with dating are nice, but short or bald or socially awkward or "defective" in some other way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:10 PM
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No doubt. Most of the guys I know who suffered some sort of financial set back, job loss, etc, were in divorce proceedings within 6 months. That's not all women, but it's probably more than 50%. So much for "for richer or poorer".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:00 PM
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No it's more of they weren't A-holes to me. And to be honest, I have a bit of A-hole in me. I just thought women wanted to be treated nice. And that works if you just want to be friends. I was so stupid/Blue pilled I used to tell women that I was a volunteer ski/snowboard instructor for handicapped kids. That was an ick before they had an ick list.🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:51 PM
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The context for many guys is, stopped being nice, started objectifying women, dating calendar fills up, I'm getting laid, women are pursuing me, etc. O ne thing that confuses me about women & blue pilled men is they honestly expect others to ignore the reality they witness or experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:31 PM
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Wrong on both counts. I was not pushover or desperate people pleaser. I was just an honest to goodness nice person who did exactly what women in here are suggesting and NOT objectify them. I would just be a nice, friendly and try to get to know them as a person. And as another thread in here says, women never said "nice is sexually attractive". I learned the hard way "nice is sexually unattractive". All the Chads I know said "be an asshole" either directly or sometimes less directly (ie, "don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:20 PM
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An extremist example would be that you suggest I see my purely as a sex object at all times and not human. You seem incapable of understanding the nuance of objectifying a person and still knowing that they are human being for example. People get objectified all the time - ie strippers, actors, athletes, doctors, fast food workers, etc. But this is just the standard female talking points in this space.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:40 AM
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Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 07:33 AM
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Bwhahahahahahha. Yeah fellas start taking women on dates to do stuff you like. One, quite often what dudes like and what women like are diametrically opposed. Two, guys start taking women on dates that interest them and few things will happen. A) you'll be called emotionally unintelligent. B) You'll be called selfish. C) Dudes will find out women don't go on dates that they're not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:22 AM
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Nah, being nice doesn't really matter in long term relationships. Being romantic and not being an A-hole is important. Being occasionally nice works. But you really can't be a "nice guy". And the main problem with being a "nice guy" is you'll never get into even a short-term relationship being a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:17 AM
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Thanks, I'll put one on retainer. Any other advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:13 AM
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What women? The ones I dated. The ones who rejected me. The ones who dated and rejected my friends. My gal pals. They're all over TikTok too. Do you really expect me to believe you're unaware of how common it is for women to say these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:59 PM
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They're claiming women told them being nice was part of being sexually attractive. I can link you to the conversations. I've never seen that. I'd love to see some examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:46 PM
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Do you want to be around assholes? Because that seems to be the real disconnect. Do I want to be around A-holes? Some of the A-holes I've been around were a blast. I learned more about women from A-holes than I ever did from women. I wouldn't want to be in an LTR with an A-hole, which is probably why you girls eventually leave them. However it sure as heck fire doesn't stop tons (probably a majority) of gals from dating A-hole after A-hole after A-Hole and giving them 2nd chances, 3rd chances, 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:44 PM
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Why do you guys always go straight for the incel insult? I'm freaking married with kids, so quite not celibate. As for the 2 biggest A-holes, a-hole #1's dating advise to me was "Treat women like dogs, kick them and they'll come crawling back" and that isn't the worst part since he was also a married serial cheater. A-hole #2 I worked with at a big corp, back when you could date around in the company. He was always dating 3-4 women at the company at the same time. Dating might be a strong word, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:22 PM
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It's not misleading at all. It's how "we" get guys pointed in the right direction. A nice guy will never purely objectify a woman, a nice guy will never go full "Chad level a-hole" on a girl. As I said, you gals will go with the extremist example to make some ridiculous point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:03 PM
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But no one said being nice was about being sexually attractive, so why guys saying women told them that being nice was sexually attractive? Men aren't claiming women said "being nice is sexy." They're claiming women told them to be nice guys. Women are certainly implying that being nice is a critical key to successful dating and it's not. The guys I know who were the most prolific daters were unequivocally the biggest A-holes toward the women they dated. Not the most attractive, not the tallest,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:57 PM
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Guys communicate directly; when I communicate with my guy friends there is no need to decode to the the true meaning. Are girls saying "Nice is so sexy" - no. OTOH, women are not saying "Being nice is a real turn off". When gal after gal tells men "blah, blah, blah, you're a nice guy, don't change, there is somebody out there for you, blah, blah, blah", that communicates the message "be the nice guy". Then that same guy asks his female friends and they say, women love nice guys, there is somebod…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:27 PM
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It mean objectify women. (IMHO) You're doing that typical female thing of trying to undefined everything, redefine everything, distort everything, pretend you don't understand simple concepts, interpret things in the extreme, etc, so in the end we're left with nothing but an indefinable amorphous blob. Assuming your post is in good faith, replace objectify with prioritizing sex. For "nice guys" it's a much more effective message if they're told "objectify woman" and "be an asshole" vs soft selli…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 04:05 PM
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Just do coffee dates. I never mind a coffee. Bring your laptop so you can be productive because it's 50/50 if she'll even show.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:52 PM
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The simp industrial complex is real and wrecking havoc on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:49 PM
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I mean treating women like sex objects upfront. Obviously, an LTR won't last if you treat somebody exclusively as a sex object.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:35 PM
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So because I don't rope my wife into house repairs, car repairs, etc, that means I think poorly of her? I'm going to run that by her for a laugh. I'm run that by my daughter too, I can already picture the look she's gonna give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:56 AM
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Absolutely. Wouldn't be married otherwise. Ever woman I didn't objectify kicked me to the curb. I didn't make the rules. I just learned to play by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:53 AM
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That I/men think poorly of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 09:17 AM
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Yes, I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 01:53 AM
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Men didn't invent the rules the dating game is played by. We're just attempting to "win" given the set of rules we're forced to play by. It's not my fault that being the nice guy failed with dozens of women, so I tried objectifying women instead. Anybody care to guess what happened when I made that change?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:17 PM
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Given that tons of Gen Z men have never touched a tool, I hope they'd be okay with a vacuum cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:08 PM
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Well swapping out evap cooler pumps isn't what I would call interesting or a 2 person job. No wonder women think the world is an oppressive patriarchy; you produce it out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:38 PM
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Certainly the majority either can't or won't. Oil changes are pretty easy, but you don't see alot of female grease monkeys. When I teach my son how to wrench on the car, I offer my daughter the same opportunity, but she declines. When the wifi goes down or some other relatively simply issue, it's up to me to fix it. All the electricians, plumbers and Desktop IT guys I know are guys. I'm not sure why you ladies always expect us men folk to ignore what we're witnessing with our own 2 eyes and then…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:09 AM
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Oh crap. Well I've been doing this whole parenting thing all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:58 PM
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I don't like or respect me wife because I don't want or need her to help me change out a water heater? That's an interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:55 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:55 AM
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They want what other women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:46 AM
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Nobody is being exploited. I don't want nor need my wife to hand me tools. By the time I explain what a 1/4" drive wrench is, where the 10mm socket is, etc, I could have grabbed it myself. And you crying when he got back on solid ground - I could do without that, constant reminders to be safe, told "that looks dangerous, lets hire somebody", etc, etc, etc. I wasn't anymore exploited than she was when she solo grocery shopped and did the laundry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:45 AM
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Then you have nothing to complain about. Furthermore, I suspect that's the norm for the majority of modern relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:16 AM
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In the end you're just not going to get the sympathy or whatever it is you ladies are looking for. Men have cooked, cleaned, balanced a bank account, etc, etc, etc. You all are welcome to keep pretending this is some sort of unbearable weight and give it all sorts of amorphous names, but we just know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:52 AM
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Nope you shouldn't be a site engineer, etc. But it sure is nice to have men running gas lines, fixing showers, etc, etc, etc without have to hear about emotional labor, mental load, unpaid labor, the matriarchy, etc, etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:49 AM
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That's a waste of time IMHO. In the US they rarely do anything and if I start factoring in the time I have to spend fighting over it, I can just bang the job myself, know it's done, know it was done properly and get on with life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:21 AM
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I've done that too. When I bust open a wall and see substandard work, it's usually pretty obvious if it was a professional hack job or somebody doing guess work. 9 times out of 10 it's the "pros" that did the shyt job. Usually, the amateurs go with over kill. It's the professionals that improperly space studs to save the cost and time of an additional stud. Which means at least 4 "professionals" missed the substandard construction. Usually, inspectors don't show up anyway. Who wants to do a pre-…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:17 AM
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I do a full service at 30k. Brake fluid, ATF, diff fluid and coolant shouldn't be changed at 15K, they're all good until 30k+. That's exactly why I don't use licensed mechanics - licensed to steal. I've caught them too many times doing unnecessary services, doing the job improperly, trying to rip my wife off, etc, etc, etc. $800 to repair her side mirror that I repaired for $50 and couple hours of my time. Very few mechanics would do the SMOD mod on vehicle despite the fact that's a known common…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:49 AM
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Share what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:54 AM
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Ahhh poor you. It's a weekend here, an evening there, another weekend, just Saturday this week. It's funny to listen to a group of people whine about people dismissing their labor dismiss the labor of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:54 AM
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Spoken like somebody who hasn't had to go back and fix the work of a "licensed mechanic".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:51 AM
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You guys in Europe are more tolerant of heat than 'mericans. And my wife who is from Ireland is even less tolerant of heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:50 AM
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Hasn't happened in a good 3.5 decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:49 AM
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You miss the point. If it weren't for this thread you'd never hear about guys working swamp coolers because we don't whine and moan about it. Now take a day or two of "swamp cooler" and replace that with women constantly whining about "invisible labor". Much like my wife didn't bitch and moan about doing the laundry today, I didn't whine to her about the swamp cooler.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:48 AM
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So you married a person who is incapable of picking up after himself? Was it a shotgun wedding or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:45 AM
1

You service you engine every 15k? Even in kilometers that's long haul. Care to explain how the extra servicing I'm doing on my engine is wrecking it? No, I don't like crawling under cars in 100 degree heat. I do like knowing the job was done and done properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:44 AM
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I think I have a pretty good idea. Nobody can be 100% right all the time, but I feel like I'm usually pretty close. I do have my "opposite rule" and that helps alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:35 AM
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So my entire weekend was shot, but having to cook every day (which is a rarity) is worse? And you missed the point, nobody cares about the shitshow that was changing out the water heater because men aren't professional whiners, men aren't trying to win the Oppression Olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:34 AM
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Lesser than and looking down are the same thing. Men don't see cooking, laundry, etc as oppressive, overwhelming, et al regardless of all the amorphous descriptors women might use to make doing the dishes seem like more than what it truly it is. Just like if my buddy started whing about the "invisible labor" involved in cleaning his dryer vent, I'd laugh in his face. I was on an out of town work project this spring and had to return home over the weekend to replace a broken water heater. When I …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:17 AM
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Nobody is looking down on basic house cleaning. We're just not buying cleaning a house or cooking a dinner is oppressive, invisible labor, blah, blah, blah. It's just doing some work around the house. That needs doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:31 PM
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Thank you. Reclassifying relatively easy & simple chores as "unpaid labor" (aka slavery) is insanity. Just take some accountability and do the chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:27 PM
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You have TWO machines? I hang my clothes to dry. Too bad I can't my wife on that program. Reminds me I have to clean the dryer vent (leading cause of house fires). Does that count as invisible labor, does remember to do it count as a "mental load"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:40 PM
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LOL, been there, done that. Oh no, i have to take care of my kids. Whatever shall I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:02 PM
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No, I do hobbies on my time. When the swamp cooler dies, I'm it's time schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:00 PM
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I don't have to pick up after her when she's here....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:58 PM
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You could pay to have a cleaning service and ordered meals delivered. But then you ladies woukd have to find something else oppressing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:56 PM
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Exactly. In my case the pump fails at 6pm. How much do you think it would have cost to have an HVAC guy to come out that night and get the pump replaced so we could have a cool home? And would he have hit en up for control panel or dome other unnecessary repair?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:54 PM
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You got me there. If there isn't something broken to fix, then men serve no purpose. Good thing i live in a 50 year old home with 10 year old cars or my wife would have filed for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:50 PM
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Huh? A fan to cool my whole house. Like an attic fan? Wouldn't work - vaulted ceilings, I need more cooling power. Why would I want to burn thru an extra $1500 every summer? Notion mention the environmental/infrastructure impact. That's like me saying get a cleaning service.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:46 PM
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Your situation is completely different than the feminist trope that women are doing all this "invisible" unpaid labor. Condolences to you and you husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:40 PM
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Studied to become competent. Bwwwaaaahahaha. You know why "real men" do their own repairs? Because we don't want to over pay to wait for an incompetent tradesman to screw up the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:36 PM
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OMG. You have to keep track of all the things needed to run a household. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You ladies honestly believe that is some sort of major "workload." I keep track of all that shyt, plus all the plumbing maintenance, cleaning dryer vents and chimneys, the cars' maintenance schedule, the landscaping, inspecting and maintaining my homes exterior, swamp cooler, bike maintenance, etc, etc, etc. You all Crack me up. I had to do two loads of dishes last night - oh the oppression. But I got my wife back by m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:21 PM
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Are you aware that warranties eventually expire on cars?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:06 PM
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30k service might be covered under warranty on a new car. I have old cars that require 30k service every 30k miles. When my kids get cars that $1500-$2k for all 4 and that's with Grease Monkey doing a half arsed job. Due to enshitification of products the pump fails twice per year. One of us in this conversation actually services his Evap Cooler and one doesn't; I find it odd that the person that knows nothing about my swamp cooler and doesn't do these types of chores is advising the person who …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:04 PM
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You expect me to believe your brother and father are tradesmen, but pay tradesmen to do stuff around the house? Is that just because they know they can get dirt cheap from their friends in the trades? I've never met a tradesman that would pay full price for relatively easy jobs (for a tradesman).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:52 AM
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It's shocking news to me because I've been there and done that and it wasn't some insurmountable struggle. There was no "invisible labor". There was no "mental load". There sure as fawk wasn't "emotional labor" - I struggle to find to something I can ever pretend is emotional labor. Is my dog emotional labor? He's kinda needy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:46 AM
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So now we're going to pretend laundry, et al is a struggle? Oh my tortured wife. She yet again had to cook dinner and do grocery shopping today. It's the Handmaids tale over here. I'm so glad my wife is sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:34 AM
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LOL - now we're ignoring the children too. This is pure awesome. I don't know who that A-hole is that was at my daughter's doctor appt today, but I'm gonna kick his arse if I ever get my hands on him. I wonder if he's the same a-hole that's spent hours trying to fix her stupid iPhone? I don't know how my son is getting to soccer practice Monday or the doc's on Tuesday, but it sure as fawk won't be me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:24 AM
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We don't help because we're not going to pretend like laundry is challenging or oppressive. I can pretend that changing fluids in a car is some nearly insurmountable task. I've gotta make multiple trips to the numerous shops, make sure I have the right filters. Gotta research which fluids are compatible with each other. And just how universal is universal transmission fluid - will it destroy my tranny? Gotta be careful with the air filter, because if you break the plug on the Mass Airflow Sensor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:20 AM
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Modern cars aren't as bad as people make them out to be. Hell you can hook up a $50 scanner and it tells you what's going on and the intrawebz is there to help. If it's a common repair, there are bound to be numerous Youtube videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 01:36 AM

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don't think you could even service an Evap Cooler, even I walked you through it. I'm so glad my wife isn't as nutty as you broads. And this right here is why relationships/marriages don't last. Once somebody starts keeping score, it's over and you ladies love to play Oppression Olympics and you all think ascribing nebulous descriptions to some relatively simple household chores makes them into some overwhelming work load? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Here's the male version of what you ladies are trying pull on …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 12:01 AM
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Are you kidding me? One, I flew solo for 3 months. Two, did my kids outgrow something is weighing you down??? I didn't find sending new clothes to school particularly challenging. I'm some how able keep on top of my kids soccer kit without it becoming an overwhelming mental load. Maybe I need to reconsider my positions on some things. I hear RP guys claim (most?) women just aren't cut out to work and be house wives. Maybe they're right, but it just doesn't seem all that challenging to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:37 PM

Sorry to hear the men in your family are allergic to manual labor. I hope they have good jobs, because tradesmen hammer you on this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:25 PM
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Cooking everyday is more of chore than plumbing, landscaping, etc? LOL. You're welcome to come over this weekend and crawl under my truck in 100 degree heat and do a 30k service on it and I'll cook your meals for the next week. While we're at it, I'm putting my dead pump back in the evap cooler and you can change that out. I live in a tri-level so it does require jumping from one rooftop to another with a step stool in hand, jumping back across to retrieve the pump and then doing that all in rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:22 PM
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The very reason to own an evap cooler is because it's simple and easy to service and maintain. Maybe single women pay somebody to service their swamp cooler, but no self-respecting man is paying $3-400 for somebody to swap out a $50 pump or replace a $20 belt. I'm sure as fawk not paying the rip off rates mechanics charge for basic automobile services, especially when they fawk it up most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:13 PM
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Interesting, not a single woman acknowledged the work a man contributes to the household. "You're just changing car fluids every other month". Under a 1+ ton car and if the jack stand fails, I die. Yeah, I'm only on the roof 3-4 times a year servicing the evap cooler. And if slip on the wet roof, I'm breaking something for sure, hopefully not my neck. And how many women want to play in a live electrical panel? Clearing a blocked sewage line is a blast too, especially because I'm not the one putt…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:06 PM
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So it's "bad" when women do unpaid house work, but it's okay when men are not paid for landscaping, plumbing, maintenance, repairs, working on the car. None of the tech in the house would work if it wasn't for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 10:04 PM
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A lot of it is simple economics. The cost has exceeded the value in many people's eyes. There are "cheaper" substitute products to fill the void. For example, women can get tons of attention & validation and sex by hopping on the apps or IG. Dudes have OF, porn & video games to fill their void. Obviously, these are poor substitutes for real relationships, but the cost is next to nothing. Following simple economics, we have Simp Economics, but that's another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:34 PM
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I would have preferred if many/most women didn't turn "everything" into SA or Grape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:12 PM
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Household chores are good example. Those are considered "unpaid labor". I don't remember collecting a check last night when I was up on the roof fixing the evap cooler. I don't complain that my wife doesn't do half the yard work. I don't whine about the "mental load" of keeping track of the cars' maintenance schedules.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:10 PM
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True, but you have to have an LTR to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 07:03 AM
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It's not just above average men. Alot of men in general want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:47 PM
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Your premise is inaccurate. Once a man gets married or in an LTR, his SMV increases by 2-3 points. It's easy as heck to cheat when you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:44 PM

I think most women/feminist prefer nebulous definitions & standards. That way they can define whatever takes place however they want. It fits their solipsistic nature. What i think they're having a hard time with is seeing forward; understanding that actions have consequences. So if we break down the example of men making passes from this POV, it loks something like this. Women don't want certain guys making passes at them, therefore they classify making a pass as harassment, creepy, etc. What t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:25 AM
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I think it grows old really quick for a lot of them. You have to remember this is women we're talking about and they'll get a couple glasses of wine in them and walk and grab a dude's package. I remember one friend that would get propositioned a couple times a night brought his GF one time and he says sorry I'm with my GF, so this broad offers a threesome right in front of his GF. You know how women claim guys are or do this that or the other and they always exaggerate it??? That's because that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:31 AM
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Good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:08 PM
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Rules for thee and not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:55 PM
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Ignore what they say. Pay attention to what they do. Informally poll couples you know and see how many started as friends. My guess is under 10%. Furthermore, just because I have romantic interest in somebody doesn't mean I don't see them as human beings. That's insane. When these same woman have romantic interest in guy, do they not see him as a human being? Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:50 PM
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No doubt if they offered themselves as part of the deal, lots of these women would have taken that deal, which is exactly why Chads are often disgusted by women. None of us had any interest in going there in pursuit of 🐈🐈🐈
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:35 PM
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We tried everything. My Super Chad friend, there was nothing he could have done. Once a gal locked in on him, it was over. My Chad friends would try to deflect attention to us, but it was rarely successful. Most of my Chad friends were somewhere between indifferent to disgusted with most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:25 PM

The mental load. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:29 AM
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I was off and on Match for 10 years. IIRC, i went on 2 dates from there. And I'm 6ft tall, was making 6 figs (in the 90s), business owner, fit, active, BUT BALD!!! Whasian didn’t help either. IMHO, you have to cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:28 AM

In other news, fire is hot...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:20 AM
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Tried the wingman thing with these guys. The thing about being average around Chad is you literally become invisible. And around my Super Chad stripper friend, I would get treated even worse than invisible. For a group that claims they aren't into looks, watching how they operate around Chads up close and personal tells a whole other story.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 11:19 AM
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I have to say I was lucky to have a lot of friends who were good with the ladies and they'd try and help ne with ge ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:11 AM
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I remember a Chad friend of mine telling me the secret to women is "Kick them and they'll come crawling back like a dog". And I witnessed it time and time again, but it just didn't make sense, but it eventually sunk in. Just do the opposite of what "they" say and to puts you 80, 90, 100% on target.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:54 AM
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I was one who had to unlearn. I think that's why you see so many Gen X men in Red Pill/manosphere spaces. Gen X men got gaslite bad, and now that we have the interwebs, we don't want to see happen to future generations. Of course, feminist claim telling guys the truth is misogynyy because it doesn't paint women in a flattering light.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:23 PM
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Agreed. Ultimately, there is a lot of gaslighting of men and the Red Pill removes the confusion created by that gaslighting. Many (most?) women, feminists and male feminists prefer men believe what they are told vs what they observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:16 PM
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Red Pill grew out of PUA, which was just OGs observing female behavior prior to the internet. RP was originally just to expose guys to the facts and let them decide how to proceed no longer under the influence of the blue pill. Then people invaded that space and used it to sell their multitude of narratives. Where Red Pill failed men is as content creators pointed out "flaws" women, women reacted by doubling and tripling down and now we have untenable dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:03 PM
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I've seen women proposition my attractive male friends within minutes of meeting them, so let's not pretend personality is some of prerequisite for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:43 PM
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Had a buddy who was stripper. He couldn't be out at the clubs after 10-11pm or it was just a non stop parade of women grabbing him, touching him, etc. If guys did that to a woman at a club, a big guy who did steroids & spent lots of time in the gym would pay you a visit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:51 PM
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Can we apply this definition to both genders? I feared she'd attack my reputation online or in our friend group. I feared she'd kick me out and the lease is on her name. I feared my female boss could do x,y,z. I feared she'd leave and take the kids. In essence, and women seem to do this a lot, we've created a definition so devoid of concrete meaning, that anything can be defined as rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:32 PM
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I think he's entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:20 AM

Because sheeple will follow the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:17 AM
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Spamming cold approachs works just fine. The conversation rate is incredibly low, but still 1000s of percent better than dating apps. You don't have to particularly mentaly tough. With proper approachs you can avoid rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:42 AM
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I have no idea. I tend to believe there is no master plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:35 AM
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If he says nothing, then the societal norm won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:43 PM
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The Simp Industrial Complex = all the simps that bail out 304s, all the offy doffys, the guys with OF subscriptions, all the guys in the friendzone, pay pigs, the guys that shower women with attention and validation despite never getting anything in return, all the Blue Pilled Beta Simps, the male "feminist allies" and on and on and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:41 PM
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The Simp Industrial Complex is real and destroying dating and everything down stream of that, including families and eventually society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:27 AM

Maybe you're right about sociopaths, as "they" say women are attracted to criminals. One does what works and stops doing the things that don't work. Should I have showered my wife in attention and drove her away? Lord forbid I be called a narcissist, socipath, abusive, etc for doing what is necessary to have success in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:11 PM

I'm not exceptionally handsome. Hell, I was bald by my mid 20s, yet ~80-90% of women I dated or approached, pursued when I became disinterested. I've been asked "aren't you gonna kiss me (or ask for my # or ask for second date) numerous times and I can guarantee it isn't because I'm exceptionally good looking. I wouldn't be married if women don't pursue when you act aloof. This dynamic is exactly why guys are able to maintain rosters. That said, obviously male attractivness & women's willingness…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:46 PM

Not in the imagination. I learned to date from PUA and I could see the switch go on in most women when I became aloof. My generation had to date IRL. I've witnessed how hard you ladies pursue a guy who dismissed you, especially if he's tall dark and handsome. Why women continue to expect dudes to ignore decades of observed phenomenon is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:11 PM
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Yet being aloof is such an effective dating tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:20 PM

I have female friends who I developed feeling for and weren't reciprocated. We're still great friends and I no longer have any feelings for them. Where it's not a good idea to keep the friendship is you're not able to put your feelings aside. Or some women will leverage the imbalance to "use" the guy. I suppose it goes the other way sometimes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:33 PM
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Because that is their particular concern, maybe they're experiencing challenges in the dating market. This may sound bonkers but is it possible that different people have different concerns or prioritize the affects of population collapse differently. For example, I'm married and therefore my sex life is unaffected by low birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:28 PM
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The issue with birth rates goes way beyond men's desire to be with the fairer sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:41 PM
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No debate necessary, title says it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:20 PM
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If truthful reveals any vulnerability, then avoid that truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:46 PM

Men wearing wigs, fake up and heels is the solution to this problem. Or...... this may sound a little radical, but what if women stopped doing that stuff. BTW, ladies, the face tune filters make you look ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:06 AM
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Correcting my typo. My mom is the only one who loves for me fur who I am. Didn't try? I've asked hundreds perhaps a thousand women. I've been married for 15 years. I tried my ass off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:18 PM
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I also used PUA as a foundation. I had no interest in racking up bodies. But once I became PUA aware and I could see women fall into their programming, there is little doubt moderately attractive male could wreck havoc using these tactics and strategies. One issue is how do measure your success in dating and bodies is an easy metric to track.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:05 PM
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Why would (for example) burying you emotions attract toxic people? Men have been burying their emotions for eons. Why would I pretend women give 2 poos about "who I am", when the only woman in my life for who I am is my mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:57 PM
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Yeah, I forgot to drink the incels are scourge of the world Kool aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:50 PM
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I don't know about that. Once I read PUA books you can pretty much apply the tactics and women respond almost universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:12 AM
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Well said. And alot of the gurus put themselves in a niche in an attempt to create a working business model (ie the looks maxxers) and in turn that distorts the narratives out there and makes it easy for the world to dismiss all the good advice because guys like Clavicular & Tate are living caricatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:09 AM
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I disagree. Most of the fishermen I knew where knee deep in the game and gave great advice. Unfortunately, there is an insane amount of misinformation being pushed making it easy to misinterprete and ignore the excellent advice these fishermen shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:02 AM
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That's an odd thing to say about Red Pill communities since their are many female influencers in that space and they're friends with the men in that space.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:57 AM
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Agreed. If I kept listening to what the ladies I knew kept saying I'd still be single and missed out on so much in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:54 AM
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I did consider that. Then I watched women who doled out the friends first advice do the exact opposite over and over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:50 AM
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Actions speak louder than words. The fact that a group of people have convinced another group that acknowledging and acting on this truth is gaslighting on a insane level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:42 AM
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Don't be the nice guy, be controlling, objectify women, bury your emotions, remember women don't love you for who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:38 AM
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Married 15 years with 2 kids. Huge improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:34 AM
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I wouldn't pay alot of attention to women's dating advice. When I started reversing all the advice women dispensed, my dating live improved drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:06 AM
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I don't know if can be done. 60-65% of women seem determined to destroy Western Civilization and ~30% of men arejoining them. How do you save a society that has so many "enemies" within? The only way i can see that we could change direction woukd be an extremely fascist gov't, which in tyrn would just be a different way of destroying Western Civilization.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 03:16 AM
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Seems to be a pattern i the mensrights sub reddit today.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 03:07 AM
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The patient was there for drugs. You can't make this up.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 03:06 AM
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He would have been found guilty on their words alone. Good on him for protecting himself.
/r/MensRights03/03/26 12:51 AM
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