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She's the best.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:26 PM
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My mom
/r/MensRights05/11/24 06:24 PM
1

I'm not worried at all. I stay away too, maybe all of us can get onboard with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:46 PM
2

Good riddance.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 12:43 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:52 AM
0

Yup, you'll never compare to him even though she won't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:46 PM
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I'd realize I'll never be able to live up to who her previous man was and leave that relationship. Going from a man like that to me is a major downgrade and I'd highly doubt she'd actually be attracted to me. No point in being with a woman if I can't be her best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:28 PM
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The vast majority of women are not attracted to 5'8.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 07:20 PM
1

Because that's how women see it. Women's first choice are the men they're sexually attracted and want to sleep with. The men that women make wait for sex are the ones that women settle for, but don't actually desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:30 PM
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The "back up option thing" comes from the fact that women settle for men they aren't attracted to when they want someone to commit to them and to secure a lifestyle. Most women aren't attracted to most men and "commit" to them for reasons unrelated to love and companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 03:05 PM
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Nope, you ladies can be mad at it all you want, but there's nothing wrong with feeling uncomfortable with being a back up option, and women aren't in position to demand we feel different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:30 AM
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Cut women out from your life.
/r/MensRights31/10/24 12:13 PM
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I cannot imagine any reasonably-minded woman thinking less of a guy because he's a virgin. I don't know what planet you live on, but the vast majority of women look down on virgin men past a certain age. And the term "virgin" is used towards men in a derogatory way very commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:25 AM
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Was born into and raised by a family of Jehovah's Witnesses. Grew up very sheltered, never had a GF, only allowed to hang out with other witness kids, and my brother, and my cousins occasionally. Left the organization at 21. Fast forward to 24, I'm a virgin with basically no friends, and I'm ugly. I've accepted the fact that I am fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:20 AM
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They couldn't hide if they tried. I'm not mad that women mostly want attractive guys. It's just the lying that annoys me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:57 PM
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But choosing to be a woman implies you'd be into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:47 AM
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The only exception if if they're attractive. Women are fine with male friends trying to fuck them when they're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:47 PM
3

Oh yeah and women are definitely always gracious about being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:47 PM
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Damn, sorry to all the short guys out there that can't be masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:06 AM
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Unattractive. Or just not pleasant to be around? Those two things are one and the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:05 AM
1

When women get treated like shit: oMg, hE's AbUsIvE When men get treated like shit: its your fault sweety!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:04 AM
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Seriously, they think they're stories disprove the rule. As if all men are gonna turn out like her "husband".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:01 AM
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Bro you are on fire all over this thread 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:59 AM
1

Women can be highly intelligent. Problem is that their uses of it are to the detriment of the vast majority of men. But women are far from dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:58 AM
1

Lol lay it on em boss
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:57 AM
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I could never imagine hating a group of people so much to the point of taunting the future generations that haven't been born yet. I honestly cannot expect anything better from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:55 AM
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Lmaoo tell em bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:53 AM
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In what world is that odd? That's a completely rational claim to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:52 AM
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Why would men acknowledge the double standards that women claim harm them when women don't give a single fuck about the double standards that harm men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:49 AM
0

Don't cry and complain when men don't give a damn about your issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:54 PM
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The dude is definitely spot on on most topics he covers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:07 PM
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The fact of the matter is that there are lots of men that women will not touch with a 20 ft pole. These products can help alleviate some of the frustration that comes along with being undesirable. Really weird that you give a shit about this, a man using one of these dolls is absolutely not the business of any women. If this upsets the natural order, than so do vibrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:46 AM
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I remember consistently multiple female teachers, all throughout my years in school, who would clearly take out their anger and frustration on the boys, whether it be from divorces or pregnancies. All while pedestalizing the girls and putting them over the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:16 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:14 PM
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My parents lived in a very different world than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:12 PM
4

Oh, so I just woke up one day and chose to be a short ugly latino?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:40 PM
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kind, educated, productive members of society with decent hygiene None of those things move the needle in a man's chances for romance and love in any meaningful way. They're good to have, but they're meaningless to women, unless the man in question is already gifted in the looks department. they may be rejected more often than other men, but those factors are not going to certainly condemn them to a life without at least some success in dating/sex/love. Being repeatedly humiliated and embarrasse…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:50 PM
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It isn't a choice to be a short, ugly, small dicked, ethnic minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:31 PM
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Why can't we? It's not like these findings are very different from what other studies find in other contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:15 PM
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All studies have limitations, that doesn't mean that the findings aren't significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:45 AM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:07 PM
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Uh idk what you mean here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:36 PM
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Check my profile. I wrote a whole essay on this subject, tons of reliabe sources in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:08 PM
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And what difference does that make?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:24 AM
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Everything I've witnessed, and the literature published surrounding female attraction leads me to believe those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:24 AM
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What difference does it being in a speed dating situation make?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:23 AM
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NO women are turned on by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:23 AM
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I'm not going to put myself out there to expose myself to humiliation and embarrassment, in the hopes of finding a unicorn of a woman who might possibly somewhat like me. Horrible ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:22 AM
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Not 100%, but 95%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:21 AM
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You don't seriously believe women are turned on in a sexual way by a man being good with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 04:51 PM
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I'm skeptical of everyone I come across, but much more with women, with is a completely normal way to be. I'm very unhappy but it is what it is. Friends with a guy? Yeah, totally. With a woman? Never, not that women wanna be around me anyways. I'm not claiming to be mentally healthy, but I do what I have to do to protect myself, my heart, and my dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:23 PM
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Yes, this is exactly what we're talking about. Your partner is an example of a man who possess the necessary traits that generate sexual interest in women, which is what leads to a romantic relationship. The passion and lust that you're describing is what every man yearns for and wants to experience from a woman, but most men don't possess the necessary traits that lead to those interaction, the traits your partner has.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:08 PM
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Nobody wants to be settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:52 PM
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not enough to get most women actively interested That is absolutely not true, men that are very physically attractive very often receive interest from multiple women based in their looks alone, this is basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:40 PM
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Women get wet and hot for men for all kinds of things other than physical attractiveness. physical attractiveness and athletic ability are the ONLY reliable predictors of sexual interest in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:25 PM
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Women absolutely work that way. Lots of men THINK they don't because the type of men that make women swoon for them at first sight are rare. But women absolutely experience intense visceral sexual attraction for men who are 6'2, muscular, and handsome, regardless of their relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:23 PM
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Some women literally get wet panties from seeing a man playing well with children. Be serious bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:18 PM
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Yup, and you can even observe this dynamic at play by simply comparing the reactions that men who more or less behave in the same way get from women when expressing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:17 PM
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correlation with good looking, rich or high status and success with women. Yup, thank you for pointing this out. People want to ignore statistical data that reflects actual observable behavioral patterns for the sake of gaslighting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:15 PM
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importance of intelligence, kindness, and humor. Furthermore, incels underestimated women’s There's no reason to believe that intangible traits such as personality, character and morals play any role in a man's attractiveness. We know that physical attractiveness and athletic ability are the two most reliable predictors of romantic interest in women Our findings suggest that incels should be targeted for interventions to challenge cognitive distortions around female mate preferences. What a wack…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 05:09 PM
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Yup, AFBB.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:25 PM
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I don't think the same men have that effect on different women. It may not be an absolute 100%, but it sure is damn near close. Still neither one is really the end. There are men that are so attractive that women will enthusiastically sleep with them without getting to know them any further. I've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:24 PM
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Exactly, being settled for while your woman lusts for other men is humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:32 PM
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Female attraction has way more to do with looks than most people will admit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:25 PM
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neurologically one causes brain damage Correct, porn is a virus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:21 PM
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Yes, those are the implications of getting a paternity test done. Completely correct. All men who are claimed to be the fathers of a woman's child should 100% get a paternity test done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:17 PM
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What a nothing type response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:31 AM
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By other contexts, i didnt mean marriage. You dont know any women with husbands that resemble caleb because caleb isnt marrying the women hes popular with (which is most women), he's banging the married women, thats the point. I've personally known some Caleb's in my life, and I can tell you there are tons of women who aren't crazies or junkies, as you put it, who are considered to be "normal" women that absolutely enthusiastically "spend time" with caleb while knowing the full extent of his sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:51 AM
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Well, not as a son. But women certainly always select for Calebs in other cough * cough* other contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:27 AM
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It's not "black pill nonsense" to point out that virtually all women are turned off by those traits and that they're also unfortunately immutable. It's a valid point, some thing can't be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:24 AM
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You might have had experiences that differ from the norm. I don't know of any men that look down on virgin women the way virgin men are looked down on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:06 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:05 AM
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Everything you said is correct, except implying men feel this way too. Men do not look down on or perceive virgin women as less than the same way women do towards virgin men. It's a one way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:46 PM
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Doesn't baffle me at all, makes perfect sense to me, actually.
/r/MensRights20/09/24 03:59 AM
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Women are always going to pick Adam as their son. What they won't admit is that they'll overlook Adam for Caleb as a sexual partner, 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:42 AM
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Yes they ARE going for Chad, and the reason is because, more often than not, they can actually land them. Why would they settle for unattractive men who have never had sex in their entire lives when they can sleep with men they're actually attracted to? I know that, to you, I sound super exhausting and obnoxious about this. But understand that, from where I'm sitting, the math doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 01:33 AM
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I never explicitly said it was literally impossible. I was making a generalization, and ofc exceptions to generalizations exist. How are you saying that me giving up is going to be the cause of me being a virgin for life when I obviously wasn't having any success when I was making an effort to get into a relationship? The reason why I'm a virgin and will continue to be one is because I don't possess the necessary qualities that arouse women, and that has been the defining factor, even before I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:51 PM
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And you're ignoring the very real experiences of another man who is telling you about him living through the opposite. I am happy you had a good experience bro, really, but you being an exception does not disprove the rule. I don't even know what you mean by cope?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:09 PM
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Not ones that actually want you, inexperienced men are viewed as less than, even by women who are equally inexperienced. Women want men who know what they're doing sexually and they don't see virgin men as capable of pleasing them, which explains the aversion towards us. I refuse to be gaslighted on this. I'm not going to ignore every single experience I've ever had just because people like you want to tell me that isn't the case. The way that I've been insulted, laughed at, humiliated and even …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:54 PM
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Exceptions don't disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:39 PM
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Lmao, you really think inexperienced women want inexperienced men? Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 08:08 PM
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Uh yeah, I know he didn't? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:49 PM
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Oh wow I'm sorry master, you have so muuuuuch to teach me, FOH
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:46 PM
2

Blah blah blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:37 PM
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You're fighting tooth and nail to disprove what I'm saying, so you obviously believe the opposite if what I'm claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:37 PM
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Lmao, I wish that were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:36 PM
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I'm tired of this bro, take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:35 PM
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I don't have to relieve every single disheartening experience on here, who the fuck are you to demand I do? Brother, if you wanna live in lala land, go right ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:33 PM
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Where are your sources to prove the women love virgin men than?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:32 PM
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All of them. I have been laughed at, made fun of, called names and humiliated time and time again. I have never had a different experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:29 PM
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You ended up getting me to agree to something because you edited your comment after I replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:28 PM
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Variations of that have occured to multiple times in my life, some more humiliating than others, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:24 PM
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I didn't say that it did By saying that, because I'm a virgin, what I say is bullshit and should dismissed out of hand is essentially saying that. claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. If you want people to believe you when you make sweeping generalizations (like you did), then you need evidence. Hey buddy, where YOUR sources? You've been making claims too. Otherwise, we know that you're someone prone to hyperbole and exaggeration, and that's a pretty good reason to be dismi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:23 PM
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Okay than, where are YOUR sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:20 PM
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And that is exactly what I am also saying. u/januaryphilosopher , and being that you haven't provided much push back, I can only assume you would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:20 PM
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Just because I've never actually had sex doesn't mean that I don't have any relevant lived experiences. I've tried flirting and getting laid in the past, and me being a virgin was a major crutch and even the main deal breaker in many cases. Again, using a man's virginity as a way to dismiss anything he says.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:18 PM
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Well, I've met quite a few, and I've never met a woman who wasn't repulsed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:17 PM
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I could see that being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:16 PM
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Why does me being a virgin automatically make me delusional? Why does that automatically disqualify anything I'm saying. You just don't have a counterargument so you'd rather insult me the same women always do and not engage with what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:15 PM
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I never said anything like that, but keep on living in lala land.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:12 PM
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I'm a fucking virgin, if you haven't picked up on it by now, but that doesn't mean I have to remain ignorant on these things or that I have to allow myself to be gaslighted by others with lies that obviously contradict reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:11 PM
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Do you also want evidence proving that people eat when they're hungry? There aren't exactly peer-reviewed studies on this, but just talking to women getting their opinions makes this issue pretty clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:10 PM
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I would say they're both turn offs, but because the second scenario you gave suggests that the man is question is making a joke of that statement not meant to be taking seriously, it's not an accurate representation of what's being discussed. If, in scenario 2, a man were to confess to being a virgin, in a non-joking serious way, I would bet my entire life savings she'd be turned off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:09 PM
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Virgin men are almost always physically unattractive, so they can pretty much smell it on us and ask pretty early to confirm their suspicions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:06 PM
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I'm not triggered. I stay away from women almost entirely now, so I don't have a dog in this fight. That's doesn't mean I won't tell the truth when others would rather spread positive lies. Why would I believe something that goes contrary to, not only my lived experiences, but also the lived experiences of my fellow virgin men? Do you expect me to just throw away the way I've been treated and the things I've been told to just magically take on different views? Doesn't work that way buddy. Insult…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:04 PM
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Thanks for the incel label, which further proves that people shit of men for being virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:56 PM
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You've got to be seriously delusional or dishonest to suggest that women don't dislike virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:56 PM
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Well, you either haven't been paying attention, are around dishonest women who won't tell you the truth, or aren't a male virgin who has to deal with these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:55 PM
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Nope, women are turned off by virgin men regardless of how they go about their behavior or personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:54 PM
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Well, as far as I can tell, him and I are both saying that virgin men shouldn't be upfront about their lack of sexual experience, which women view as an inadequacy. u/psych0ticmonk , aren't we in agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:44 PM
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Well, as far as I can tell, him and I are both saying that virgin men shouldn't be upfront about their lack of sexual experience, which women view as an inadequacy. u/psych0ticmonk , aren't we in agreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:43 PM
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I know that's what he said, but he should've used different phrasing. The point that's actually being made isn't about the importance of honesty, even thought that's how he worded it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:38 PM
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Read any reddit thread about this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:36 PM
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Speak to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:35 PM
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With they way that women overwhelmingly dislike male virgins, there's no other effective alternative than to misrepresent ones sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:32 PM
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If possible, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:30 PM
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So long as the lie isn't super stupid or far fetched, I don't see how a man could get caught lying. I think women not being attracted to adult virgins is a very small part of their issue How can you even say this? I would think women being completely turned off by men who admit to being virgins would be a pretty bug issue in a man's efforts to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:30 PM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:25 PM
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Absolutely not, those women are RARE exceptions. Most are repulsed by adult male virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:23 PM
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Absolutely not, those women are a exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:21 PM
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I don't have a dog in the fight, but what he's saying doesn't have anything to do with how "important" honesty is. What he's saying is that the vast majority of men want to have sex with women, and some men (more and more as the years go by) have the disadvantage of being a virgin into adulthood. Being that women perceive adult virgin men (regardless of their behavior, qualities, personality, etc) as sexually unattractive and is a guaranteed way to never get laid by admitting to it, he's saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:21 PM
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Lmao I love that meme
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:23 PM
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A man's words and opinions are much more likely to be "offensive" when the man expressing them is unattractive. Vice versa for attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 04:23 PM
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👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:21 PM
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Again, watch how women behave, not what they say. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:16 PM
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Just observe women. You can witness the behaviors for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:14 PM
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I see where you're going with these points bro, but honestly, don't even bother. Women won't ever understand and they really dgaf.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:11 PM
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I think a lot of young women would think it’s sweet and makes it special if a guy is a virgin. This is flat out wrong. The vast majority of women are very open about their aversion to virgin men. You'd have to live under a rock or be intentionally dishonest to suggest that most women would be endeared by a man who's never had sex. I didn’t think less of him That first time was trash Yeah, sure you didn't think less of him. You literally just referred to the experience as actual garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:10 PM
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It's straight up embarrassing to show up to one of those events as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:21 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:40 PM
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"bUt gIrLs aNd WoMeN aRe mOrE eMpAThEtIc!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:08 PM
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Girls don't get wet for guys because they're sweet and polite. Thank you for making this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:17 AM
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Well, yeah I'm convinced my beliefs are true? There's nothing dehumanizing about what's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:28 PM
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She's making all men out to be dangerous criminals that women need to stay away from, so I'm obviously using exaggerations to demonstrate how she sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:27 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:25 PM
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You seem to be taking this as an indictment on women as opposed to just a a pretty accurate generalization regarding how women experience attraction towards men. Observing behaviors and pointing them out isn't dehumanizing. If anything, this ultimately points to the shortcomings of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:10 PM
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What I'm saying is slightly different from what OP was suggesting. I'm saying that women don't love the men in their lives nearly as much as men think, and that, for a woman to truly fall in love with a man, that man has to possess a certain set of traits that place them above others, which 95% of men won't ever experience. Not that women loving is impossible, but that the parameters that facilitate love from women is far more strict and rigid than what is commonly believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:44 PM
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It is what it is. If women are allowed to scream "kill all men" and that we're all rapists, than we should be allowed to point out the truths regarding women's behavior when it comes to sex and dating, no matter how much it hurts your feelings. Although, I'm not even really sure as to why women are offended by things like these. These points are hard for men to hear for sure, but women aren't negatively affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:22 AM
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What I'm saying is slightly different from what OP was suggesting. I'm saying that women don't love the men in their lives nearly as much as men think, and that, for a woman to truly fall in love with a man, that man has to possess a certain set of traits that place them above others, which 95% of men won't ever experience. Not that women loving is impossible, but that the parameters that facilitate love from women is far more strict and rigid than what is commonly believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:54 AM
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Men driving themselves away from women and self isolating is preferable to getting involved with a woman who settled for you thay doesn't actually love you. they will hide away and refuse to get close to others because they fear getting hurt from what they assume will be an untrustworthy partner. This is what I'm doing and it's a completely reasonable way for men to go about their lives, I encourage this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:47 AM
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Nobody is saying women aren't humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:35 AM
1

Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:33 AM
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👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:33 AM
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No, 50% of the population would STOP living in a delusion and wake up. I won't say women are completely 100% incapable of loving men, but women are far less likely to love men than men are to genuinely love and care for women. And this is demonstrably true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:33 AM
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The world you're describing would be far more realistic and one that more accurately reflects the realities of human mating and bonding. Might not be as pretty, but more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:28 AM
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distrustful at every corner Which is a good thing, serves as a mechanism for self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:24 AM
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Nope, I didn't have to make anything up. According to you, men are dangerous criminals that need to stay away from women. That's from your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:09 AM
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Only a reflection of what you feel about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:08 AM
1

Ah, I agree with that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:30 AM
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What have I said that is deluded? Give me an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:26 AM
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What have I made up? Please tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:25 AM
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That men can't love women they're attracted to? I'm confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:06 AM
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And what makes you think I behave in those ways? Because I tell the uncomfortable truth and see things realistically for how they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:01 AM
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No rebuttal. Guess I'm right. ✌🏼👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:54 AM
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No counter argument. 👍🏼✌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:52 AM
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What I'm saying is that you're intentionally dismissing the very real lived experiences of tons and tons of men for the sake of never holding women accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:48 AM
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I don't get your point here. Are you saying that men genuinely love women they're attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:45 AM
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You have no counter argument. 👍🏼✌🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:39 AM
1

Absolutely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:37 AM
1

Tell me, how do I behave?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:34 AM
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Absolutely a thing. Men are more likely to be able to genuinely fall in love with their GF / wife than women would be to fall deeply in love with their BF / husband. Most men are average and women typically aren't truly attracted to ordinary men. I'm convinced you're making your second point up. I've never once seen a man on this sub (or ever for that matter) claim what you're claiming. You're attempting to remove all accountability for women who actually treat innocent men like dog shit, despit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:34 AM
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It's not that I consider myself to be an animal. YOU and other WOMEN behaving in ways and using language that villainizes men you don't like demonstrates that WOMEN percieve men that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:18 AM
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Acknowledging that a woman's capacity for romantic love towards men is highly conditional and is geared towards a much narrower set of traits than most people think isn't the equivalent of seeing them as subhuman. Yeah, it's possible for women to genuinely love men, but it probably occurs very rarely, and women aren't going to experience it for most average men. thinking that actual human beings aren't capable of having the same depth and complexity of feelings as you do has had some pretty note…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:16 AM
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Yup, you just agreed to men being dangerous animals. Yours words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:08 AM
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Yeah, we're all dangerous animals. I'm not saying any psycho shit, I'm just matching your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:06 AM
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Acknowledging that a woman's capacity for romantic love towards men is highly conditional and is geared towards a much narrower set of traits than most people think isn't the equivalent of seeing them as subhuman. Yeah, it's possible for women to genuinely love men, but it probably occurs very rarely, and most men probably aren't going to experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:46 AM
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My question to men is: If men aren't dangerous Your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:35 AM
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Well, you are here openly attempting to paint all men as horrible rapists that have done horrible things to women, so I don't know how much I believe that you don't identify with that sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:04 AM
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No, that's what YOU'RE saying. You're the one saying men are dangerous, not me. I'm just repeating your sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:49 AM
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Yes, us men are all dangerous animals that deserve to be publicly castrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:30 AM
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If men aren't dangerous No, if you're convinced men are dangerous, stick to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:59 PM
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Everyone would be hurt. Yeah, it'd be better for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:48 PM
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Women are the only ones with hurt feelings when talking about paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 09:12 PM
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Well, inorder to get into a worthwhile monogamous relationship, you'd have to recieve the very type of attention your model coworker was receiving. That's the starting point to facilitate getting a woman in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:13 PM
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Well, when you've only ever been met with disgust and aversion from every woman you've encountered, like I have, those sound like really nice problems to have. I'd much rather be him than be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:04 PM
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I agree with most of what you're saying except this point here. either adapt or be thrown aside I can't just choose to be more confident, charismatic or interesting without having the experiences and positive feedback to reinforce those traits in my behavior. I can't just choose to be taller, better looking in the face, have a nice physique as if those things were attainable by flipping a switch. I agree that whatever complaints we have about the cards we've been dealt will fall on deaf ears, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:52 PM
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First, the title of your post doesn't accurately reflect the actual sequence of events. Tons of men get into the "blackpill" / "doomer" mindset as a result of years of experiences that line up with those schools of thought, and because of scientific research that explains the deeper causes of those experiences that differ from the common nonsensical tropes. Not the other way around. Men don't just wake up one day and just decide to be cynical. I don't like knowing my chances with women are next …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:27 PM
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I never said anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:57 PM
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I never implied you owed me anything. I'm just echoing the sentiment of male stupidity you expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:50 PM
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Oh, I beg. Fuck the rest of us stupid uglies though, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:36 PM
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Not only that, their mating preferences are always inconsistent with the common talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:19 PM
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Yeah, most men are dummies!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:57 PM
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Ah yes, the obligatory knee-jerk NAWALT response that isn't based in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:56 PM
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Exactly, they're tune changes when it's Mr. 6'3 and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:24 PM
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Wherever men live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:09 PM
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What a convenient reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:31 AM
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Well, I agree life doesn't stop because of what we look like, but it certainly is different based on what we look like. I hear what you're saying, but it's just easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 02:25 AM
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Harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:30 AM
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Well, being 5'8, ugly and latino is who I am, so, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:19 AM
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Male behavior is only a problem when our faces and bodies are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:14 AM
1

True.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:47 AM
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This is reasonable, forgot only the abstract is available. I had bought the full paper way back when, can't seem to find it in my files, looking for it now. Pretty depressing to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:41 AM
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What an insane and stupid reach. I don't know what I said that could've possibly made you think I believe in KILLING random people, but you've got to be more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:14 PM
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Don't forget 'don't be ugly'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:03 PM
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I have no idea who that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:55 PM
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I fit the textbook definition, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:54 PM
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Because it isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:45 PM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 10:45 PM
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Can I ask a genuine question? Is this an exaggerated story you're using the illustrate the current climate of men approaching women? Or did this happen to you literally?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:45 AM
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And then when you point out this very common experience of tons of young men, they try and gaslight us and deny it, as if it weren't our lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:44 PM
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Might well be zoo animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:29 PM
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Yeah, it's all lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 11:20 AM
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😮‍💨
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:43 AM
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Completely correct, but I would make the argument that this would be the reality for >90% of men. Call me jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:35 AM
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Women will swear up and down that they're the more empathetic gender, while also behaving in the most atrocious ways towards unattractive men, regardless of their behavior. The most disheartening experiences I've ever been through.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:27 AM
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The premise is this post is about deliberately misinterpreting what women say to self harm and self flagellate while throwing out the accusations to other people who are countering it. The premise of this post is to discuss the very real implications of some common sayings and behaviors women are comfortable in partaking in, because there have been inaccurate ideas surrounding them for a long time. To you, u/axolotofpain, "husband / marriage material" is a good thing and should be taken as a com…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:53 AM
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But why do you guys see "marriage" and immediate think "relegated to a provider". Because when a woman is labeling a man as "husband / marriage material" and not "hook-up / dtf material", that's the exact distinction she's making. Some men are for sex and romance because they're hot, and some are only for settling down with once they need stability because those men are boring, but safe and reliable. This isn't true 100% of the time, but it occurs very often, and more than people would like to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 06:08 PM
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What exactly is hypocritical about what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:47 PM
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Just because she meant it as a compliment doesn't mean that's the whats actually being interpreted on the receiving end, and you can't always control how people take things. Would you like to be told "I'd never want to have fun with you, but, because you seem like a good woman, I'd totally let you go through the extruciating pain and physical struggles of pregnancy / child birth to give me a kid and than later let you do the work of raising my child"? She may have truly meant it as a compliment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:45 AM
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There are lots of men that are validated by being sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:53 AM
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You're being petty because men obviously aren't born jaded and cynical, but you're implying we are. I never said you had to be with someone jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:43 AM
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I refuse to be gaslighted on this. Being called husband material is NOT the compliment women think it is, no matter how well intentioned it may be. It is absolutely not a compliment to be told "I wouldn't wanna have sex with you casually the way I did with other men that excited me, but I'll let you commit to me so I can make you wait and than have to provide for me". That is humiliating, demoralizing and I won't be convinced of anything else. Men want to be sexually desired and validate by thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:31 AM
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I would disagree with the second part. Men can definitely be way to quick to act off of our emotions, but that isn't our only way of being. Becoming aware of hypersensitivity to our emotions and actively working to thinkore logically and make more rational decisions is definitely possible. It's just takes conscious effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:24 AM
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Outside of committed relationships? Typically no, because the men women sleep with are usually above average and very good looking, meaning they have an abundance of options and don't feel any emotional attachment. In marriages? Yes, because most men are under the impression that their wives actually love and desires them, which usually isn't the case, causing them to become emotional invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:34 PM
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The opposite, actually. The rest of this site too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:26 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:04 PM
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It depends on why a woman is having sex with a man. Is it because she's attracted to him and wants sleep with him? She obviously values him because those are the men women pay attention to and treat well. Or because she's "committed" to him and is making him wait for the sake of "taking it slow"? That's a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:25 PM
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Next time a women expresses her grievances concerning dating and romance, I'll be sure to tell she just bitching and whining, and proceed to tell her she has nothing to complain about. No matter what she's expressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:22 PM
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Of course women don't openly admit to it. Duh. And yeah, some of them have to sleep with the men they want to get things from, under the guise of loving them. Are you implying men should be happy with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:19 PM
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1) there are loads and loads of women who absolutely settle for men they don't like knee they've fucked around. men have themselves to blame for that lol Yeah, because everything is our fault and should suffer. Even me, born in 2000. 2) that study didn't make the distinction you're projecting onto it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:11 PM
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1) no, because an untractive man could still be financially stable and able to provide. 2) its true of women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:50 PM
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Well the answer to your question would be I'm sure some do and some don't. I don't know what point you're trying to make with that question. I'm just trying to understand why men think that getting sex shows they're valued as human beings. 1) because that's how WOMEN treat us. The way women treat men they aren't attracted to is demoralizing and disheartening. It's what I've experienced my entire life and consistent with alot of other men I know have gone through. I would also bet that's the comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:04 PM
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Your question is worded is little strangely? Are you asking me if I think that women have already made up their minds about whether they'd date a man or not when she's decided to have sex with said man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:27 PM
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According to the same exact women that use these phrases, which is most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:23 PM
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No, that's that main distinction when are making when using these phrases. Just because women "say" one thing doesn't mean that's actually the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:22 PM
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Because that's one of the main distinctions women make when labeling men as "husband / material" and "hook-up material".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:20 PM
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That's a blatant misrepresentation of what's being said. What's actually being said is "it hurts to be relegated to a back up financial options while never being sexually desired."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:16 PM
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80/20 rule always reveals itself. Human nature always comes to the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:14 PM
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The fact that they don't understand why it's insulting makes it sting even more. They're just so indifferent to how these things effect the male psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:13 PM
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Women settle for men that are husband / marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:12 PM
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That's a blatant misrepresentation of what's being said. What's actually being said is "it hurts to be relegated to a back up financial options while never being sexually desired."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:11 PM
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you'd be hard pressed to find a woman that will call him marriage material. You'd be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:06 PM
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Nobody is saying that a mans validation should only come from women, who here even said or even implied anything like that? Just because a man should seek purpose in other facets of life doesn't mean that them wanting a women who is their partner to desire them sexually is unreasonable. Again, what are you even on about? You're not even discussing the post at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:05 PM
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Well, good, stay away from us. I don't put myself out there to date either because I have too much self respect to be a back up credit card under the guise of being "marriage material". It't not about not trusting someone who I love, it's about knowing how I'm perceived by a partner and acting accordingly. It is to the detriment of men to settle down with a woman that does not truly want them, not that you care. "Women don't want decent men, they want chads who don't give a fuck about them" I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:02 PM
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EVERYONE wants to be validated, even WOMEN. What exactly is even your point???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:58 PM
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For most guys, that's what they definitely mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:57 PM
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The anecdotal experiences of your "friends" isn't exactly helpful either. All you did was say you know people in their 30's who are settling down. Nobody is disputing that people settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:56 PM
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Wasn't aware of that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:55 PM
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This honestly why I like women less and less. It seems that almost all of you just always have to be petty smartass when men are expressing grievenaces, while demanding men drop everything and listen to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:52 PM
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petty smartass
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:50 PM
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Big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:50 PM
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If you're asexualm you're POV is completely irrelvant. We're discussing women who experience sexual desire, which you're admiting to having none of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:49 PM
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Nice nothingburger answer, how relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:47 PM
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Lucky you. Exceptions aren't the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:47 PM
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Just like yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:46 PM
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Yeah, ofc you'll dismiss it as nice guy rhetoric, because you don't want to acknowldege how demoralizing this is for most men. I'm sorry that we're refusing to be gaslit any further by women, but calling out women for what they actually mean to say witht that label is absolutely going to continue. We're waking up and know whats up now. You can deny all of this all you want, doesn't make it any less true. Telling the uncomfortable truth isn't having a victim complex or being judgmental. You feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:46 PM
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You'll believe what you want to believe, female priviledge, to live in your own world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:42 PM
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Nobody is talking about throwing a tantrum. Ok in the moment he was drunk and got emotional, still kinda immature but alcohol can do that. But he was still being weird about it in the morning. Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:41 PM
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I get what you're saying, but you're missing something important. When women refer to men as "marriage material" they're not saying those men are desireable on all counts. They're saying those men are great back up credit cards to fall back on, but aren't sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:39 PM
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You're describing the top tier men women give most of their attention to, and because the other 90% of men are ignored, women think all men are like the ones that catch their eye. Most men yearn for one loyal woman that loves them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:37 PM
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It's completely normal for men to want to be sexually desired by women, what are you even on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:36 PM
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Women see stable futures with decent men that treat them well, are responsible. AKA the men they skip over while they're having sex with Chad's that don't give af about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:35 PM
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You cannot be serious. You cannot be seriously implying that men should settle for women that actually want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:33 PM
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We aren't jaded straight out of the womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:32 PM
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Which is most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:31 PM
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You summed this up very nicely, it's humiliating to be told that you're much less sexually attractive than the other guys they loved to get fucked by, but are good enough to just be a back up option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:31 PM
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Her "intent" doesn't change the fact that it stings. You can't change how men feel about certain things and you can't rationalize how men react to being told these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:30 PM
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Am I not allowed to express agreement with the sentiment the OP is expressing? Sheesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:24 PM
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The fact that they don't understand why it's insulting makes it sting even more. They're just so indifferent to how these things effect the male psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:23 PM
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You summed this up very nicely, it's humiliating to be told that you're much less sexually attractive than the other guys they loved to get fucked by, but are good enough to just be a back up option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:18 PM
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Uh okay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:50 PM
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🙌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:47 AM
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Truthfully, I'd rather not. Way too embarrassing to put myself out there. I'll let you guys have all the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:42 AM
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I hate the fucking gaslighting, the truth hurts but its better to know than to be blissfully ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:37 AM
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All in all, these either don't move the needle or actively dry up their pussies. The virtue signaling that goes on would have us think otherwise, but that's completely in line with how women actually react when observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:20 AM
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🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 03:13 PM
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Well, most men don't exactly get fairytale endings either, life's not fair. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 02:40 PM
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Men are more likely to engage in far more lethal methods of suicide than woman are. That's the important distinction to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 04:41 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:15 AM
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80/20 rule is inescapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:13 AM
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It all depends on how you word it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:00 AM
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Aight, I see what you were saying. I had gotten confused thinking this was a different thread. Yes, they don't count as full on approaches but they definitely do make it 10× easier for men to make the first move on women that will be receptive to their advances. I'd also argue that women who are willing to demonstrate IOI's are much more likely to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:00 PM
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How am I supposed to know? You tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:18 PM
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Where's my hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:16 PM
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My replies, which you're claiming I deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:07 PM
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Still there on my end, probably on hers too. Idk what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:30 AM
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A woman has to be sexually attracted to a man she's in a relationship with, or else the relationship is doomed to fail. Men who do not illicit arousal in women don't achieve loving relationships. I would argue settling is almost exclusively female behavior though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:38 AM
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But I can notice trends and observe common behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:32 AM
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Okay, "mate" maybe try getting on reddit on anything other than your iPhone 6, cause I haven't deleted anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:26 AM
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I never said otherwise? I don't even know what we're talking about anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:21 AM
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As serious as they come. I don't even know what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:08 AM
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As serious as they come. I don't even know what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:07 AM
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By pointing that out, I'm countering your claim that most men will fuck anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:55 AM
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Okay, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:53 AM
1

What? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:48 AM
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No, not most, not even close. Most aren't even having any sex to begin with. What some say on here isn't always representative of what's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:32 AM
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Yeah, cause I'm lost as that what you meant to say there. Well, she ain't denying fucking those sorts of men, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:20 PM
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Well, I had thought that you were speaking about men you personally know. And I never said YOU PERSONALLY believed such an idea. But you did say MEN are the ones perpetuating that idea, which was what made me make the distinction I made. I won't lie to you, I'm not fond of women at all. But what I won't do is intentionally misrepresent what a woman says or automatically dismiss what a woman says unless there's another underlying reason to do so. If a woman says something that's right, I'll conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:19 PM
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No, the men YOU pay attention to perpuate that idea. The remaining ignored 80% barely even fuck, let alone often. Get it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:06 PM
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Which is ironic, because in the very same sentence in which you attacked her the first time you essentially claimed mrn can't afford to discriminate. Huh? Except she didn't actually say she had sex with any of those men.... How else would she know? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:57 PM
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She's implying men only think and act on our dicks. What are you even on about? When did say she had less value? I'm saying she's taking a certain characteristic present in the men she decides to have sex with and is painting all of us to be the same way. I'm not defending those men either?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:44 PM
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Whatever. You ladies can continue to selectively humanize and listen to the men you want to, you'll perpetually have an inaccurate idea of what men collectively are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:42 PM
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That's exactly what I'm saying. You're saying that men don't experiencing sex as something emotional or bonding just because the men you pay attention to fuck whatever. I'm saying you're dead wrong amd making a stupid generalization that doesn't apply to most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:25 PM
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Far less men actually do what you're describing than what you're trying to make it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:22 PM
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You mean you fuck the men you notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:19 PM
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She's implying that sex for men can't possibly be an emotional bonding experience for men because she knows men that don't discriminate and will fuck anything that moves. She's taking the men she chooses to fuck and is making us all out to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:18 PM
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Maybe the men you fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:16 PM
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I have no issue with them fucking whoever they like. I'm taking issue with you pointing to a specific group of men and making all of us out to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:16 PM
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Just because the men you fuck would stick their dicks in anything doesn't mean the rest of us would. Newsflash, most of us aren't swimming in pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:46 PM
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Ha, I wish I were.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:14 PM
1

What? Am I not allowed to offer rebuttals? And I thought you weren't responding to me anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:13 PM
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You can minimize and misrepresent everything I've said, that's fine. If you had a counter argument, you'd lay it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:01 PM
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No rebuttal, only mockery, seems like you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:59 PM
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Take care ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:57 PM
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Uh are you saying I've been responding to your comments for months? There's isn't any other realistic lens to view these things through.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:56 PM
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Well, I was confused as to what you were trying to say. It seemed like there were some incorrect words and grammar points, cause I'm confused. That's fine, you have no rebuttal. Because you know I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:48 PM
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I said nothing about "Chad" nor "bottom tier" in my comment. Yes, you did. You referred to "men we want", who are top tier men, and "men we don't want", AKA bottom tier men. Just because you're saying it politely doesn't mean you're not actually making those references. You're using different language to communicate the same thing, that's all. If a woman wants a man, the fact that other men also want that man doesn't affect that. If a woman doesn't a man, the fact that other women don't want him…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 06:44 PM
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Stay strong bro 🙌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 04:08 PM
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No one is saying that women who can't get chad to commit will then magically become sexually attracted to bottom tier men. What we're saying is that women will absolutely settle for men they are not attracted to at some point to secure a family, life style etc. A man getting a women to marry him doesn't mean shit when evaluating how much she actually loves him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:53 PM
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I've said this before, I'm happy some guys get the better end of things. If you're the type of guy to draw out those sorts of things from women, use your desirable qualities for good. Take advantage and maximize your own happiness, and start a relationship with a good woman you love. Lots of guys aren't going to have this, don't waste what you've been given.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:35 PM
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As I told another redditor, it might not be completely 100% over for average guys, but it's increasingly more difficult and low key embarrassing to attempt to interact with women. The juice is just not worth the squeeze, and that's IF any "juice" is produced
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:23 PM
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Rules and regulations are only for ordinary guys. They get thrown out the window for chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:19 PM
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I tend to be more on the side of "Looks matter more", but what you're saying is true as well. You're "frame", how you go about interacting with others and your demeanor for sure counts for a lot. I would imagine the advice you're giving works, but also exceedingly difficult to effectively implement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:07 PM
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Good for you that you've had those experiences, truly. I'm glad atleast some of us are having some fun. But exceptions don't disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:47 PM
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So women will settle for men they don't sexually desire or love, so that they can get married and desire other men. How humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:38 PM
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I call BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:35 PM
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They simply don't count the other women in the bottom 80 percent as options. The same way some guy said here "those women don't see you as a man", when he was talking about being short, they don't see a large percentage of women as women. I call total BS on this, it's the women who don't perceive the bottom 80% of men as real men or even notice them. Women that are considered to be average and even below average do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:35 PM
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I can appreciate your entire take on this, it’s refreshing to know someone out there is aware of the way things actually work. I can also admire that you don’t seem to have a bitter attitude towards this, I wish I could say the same about myself. You make a good point when saying that women shouldn’t be shit on for being attracted to who top tier men, and I’m not one of those guys. What I do absolutely hate is the LYING. This is where 95% of my frustrations come from, women denying apparent trut…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:31 PM
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Stay strong bro. 💪🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:08 PM
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It might not be completely 100% over for average guys, but it's increasingly more difficult to interact with women. The juice is just not worth the squeeze, and that's IF any "juice" is produced
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:07 PM
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Confident people are able to have that due to past experiences that allow them to be confident. Confidence isn't something people can just create from nothing. There has to be a foundation to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:25 AM
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If I may ask, how did that make you feel? Were you even comfortable around him? I know if it were me, being around stuff like that would amplify my inferiority complex, did you ever feel less than? Ever jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 09:55 AM
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This is why I firmly believe the vast majority of men should walk away from the idea/ goal of pursuing women and / or being in a committed relationship. It means absolutely nothing and will not guarantee that a woman will truly want you. And hearing these stories of women betraying their husband's in these absolutely brutal ways cements my position even further. Yeah, it sucks knowing no woman will ever desire me. But committing to one just so that she can use my resources and than fuck other me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:33 AM
1

Shit is discouraging to the max.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:08 AM
1

Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:27 AM
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You become a wholesome person and go for real love. Loving committed relationships still exists today and most women look for that. Not realistic advice for the average dude. Most women are turned off by ordinary run-of-the-mill guys, and don't want them. Being wholesome and looking for real love doesn't change that, and I would even argue turns most women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:27 AM
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What the fuck are you even on about?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:13 AM
1

Also be wary of any girl pushing for marriage that generally means she is tired of acting and wants to vest. Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:12 AM
1

Probably the most depressing and difficult thing I've ever had to realize, that my inherited traits and qualities preclude me from ever receiving desire from a woman. It hurts to admit, but I do have a desire to be validated, as all men do. It's just not un the cards for most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:10 AM
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I have no hate for these dudes, good for them, truly. But I'd be lying if I told I wasn't jealous of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:03 AM
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The point he's trying to illustrate it that the 80/20 rule is absolutely real and observable in actuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:36 AM
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You and your husband being happy together as an exception does not disprove the rule. Good for him, but that doesn't mean the rest of us get happy Disney movie endings. But thank you for rubbing your happy perfect romantic life with him in our faces. Again, as I said, a man having a "committed" relationship with a woman does not mean that he is actually loved and desired by his woman. Other women will tell you that is so true. I don't mean to come off as a douchebag, (even though I probably alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:20 PM
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Oh look, a women who wants men to throw our dignity away and grovel on our knees to validate them. Fuck that, no man should beg for a woman that doesn't want them. Maybe you get off of men with low self esteem throwing away their self respect, but that's only to your benefit, and a complete detriment to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:12 PM
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Absolutely not true. Maybe that's how you feel as an individual, but that's not the case for most interactions. Women punish ugly men for being awkward and clumsy despite being polite, while missing or even ignoring shitty behavior from men they want to fuck. The defining factor is their attractiveness, because that alone dictates what kinds of behaviors they can get away with. I. Am. Not. Blind. Or. Stupid. I. Was. Not. Born. Yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:05 PM
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You didn't read carefully what I had written, and I know that because you're responding to something I never said. In no way, shape or form, did I ever say that attractive men cannot be rapists, abusers, etc. Good looking men are absolutely just as capable of being horrible to women. So you trying to lecture me on that is pointless, because I already know that. You THINK I don't know that because you misread with I wrote. That's on YOU to pay more attention to what you're reading, maybe than you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:00 PM
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Women are still attracted to ATTRACTIVE men, and the vetting only applies to men they aren't so attracted to. The concern about potential danger only kicks in when the man is unattractive, attractive men are received well and are not thought to be possible assailants. When a good looking guy that illicits arousal presents himself, women throw all of the self preservation out the window. Important distinctions to be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:55 PM
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Well, yeah, because that's how women operate. Women expect to validated but men that are insecure are icky and below them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:49 PM
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Women don't care for those discussions, because a men who needs reassurance is a man who's needy and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:44 PM
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Yup, this. No point in trying to get a woman to love me when she'll desire other men who offer everything I can and 10× more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:41 PM
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Yeah! Fuck those weirdo losers looking for love!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:36 PM
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I agree with you, but I would just point out the exception, which would be attractive men. Top tier men, in terms of looks, status, wealth, etc, can absolutely cold approach and have success. Just doesn't work for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:15 PM
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Nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:53 AM
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Just because you don't see it on social media doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The visceral aversion to male virgins is very much present in real life, you may not notice it as much because it may be not an issue concerning your identity. I don't know you, but I would bet you aren't a male virgin. I don't even know what you're trying to say by bringing up shitty social behaviors. I never said being socially awkward wasn't a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:36 PM
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Virgin shaming is absolutely a real thing, and your claim that guys don't insulted for the actual virginity is a false statement. As for my anecdotal experience, I've had multiple women insult using my virginity against me knowing it would be a hard blow to my self esteem. Tons of men have experiences that are similar, being looked down upon and automatically being labeled a creep due to sexual inexperience. The women treat men who are socially awkward and are presumed to be virgins and men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:39 PM
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Yup, but if you're ugly and aren't paying attention, you wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:16 PM
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Check my profile. It's titled "Average and below average men should no longer pursue women".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:01 AM
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Idk, seems like we're on the same page at some moments and then like we disagree at others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:42 AM
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I'm not going to back and forth with you on this anymore, because I'm sensing that you and I mostly agree on this and are just expressing the same thing in different ways, which gives us both the impression that we're in disagreement. Feels like chicken or the egg style semantics at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:53 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:12 PM
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Ah I see. Yeah, because those things are more obvious / apparent. But I would also make the argument women can infer that men are virgins based on that specific behavior. So many times, they're one and the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:59 PM
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I don't how much you care about this exchange, but you're gonna have to make you're point a little clearer. Maybe I'm retarded on top of being ugly, but I really just can't capture what you're trying to say. What exactly do you mean by "operative"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:11 PM
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Thank you, it took a lot work to put it together. Didn't think I'd be strong enough to finish it, but I managed to pull through. Most subreddits didn't receive it well at all, some even removed it entirely. But thanks again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:14 PM
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Hateful eight was a great film.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:10 PM
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Ofc everyone was a virgin at SOME point, and yeah even Chris fucking Hemsworth. And no my point doesn't fall flat, because I'm obviously not talking about 14 year olds. There's a major difference between men who eventually LOSE their virginity and the men who never do, even getting to certain older ages. Maybe that's a newsflash for you, welcome to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:07 PM
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Okay, you seem to be saying that the behaviors that virgin men typically exhibit are off-putting and that that the actual virginity / inexperience isn't, implying that both of those things can exist independently of each other. What I'm saying is that BOTH are shortcomings according to women. What you refer to as "spooks" are icks for tons of women, regardless of the men they're present on. You also seem to think that it's possible for a male virgin to somehow pull confidence and charisma out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:30 PM
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It really doesn't seem like you were, I'm a little confused. But whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:14 PM
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The hot sexy guys that women crush on. Are. Not. Virgins. Virgin men do not interact confidently with women or ooze sex appeal the way you seem to think possible. The men who are able to do those things are entirely different men. That's what I'm trying to say. A man with the looks and status of someone like Liam Hemsworth is almost certainly not going to be a virgin. So you making these points are completely pointless and meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 07:03 PM
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I'll concede this point to you, yes, the root is the physical unattractiveness. But the actual virginity is also very unattractive to most women, regardless of who it pertains to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:44 PM
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Yes, and the vice versa is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:40 PM
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I know what the full quote was. There is no such thing as "unattractive men who happen to be virgins". Those two things occurring in the same man isn't a coincidence, they're connected to one another. they don't just so "happen to not get laid", a man who is a virgin is one BECAUSE he's unattractive, and virginity is INHERENTLY unattractive to women. Those two factors don't exist separately from eachother.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:34 PM
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In my experience, almost none of the virgins I know are attractive. Most of us have been repeatedly told we're ugly. I know one guy who was pretty decent looking and was broken up with when confiding he is a virgin. A guy being a "virgin" doesn't make him unattractive. Yes, it does, because it signals to women that he's undesirable. Women admit this all of the time, in person and online. I refuse to be gaslighted on this. In practice, as in real life, hot sexy cools guys don't have this problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:21 PM
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This is what I always say. Forget ever having a woman, be your own man and be self sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:05 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:24 PM
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a virgin dude who's nice and everyone love him who just haven't found the right girl yet is not seen as a loser. Negative chief. Maybe he shouldn't be percieved as a loser and maybe you don't, but most women will at best be polite but quietly averse to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:13 PM
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I know tons who openly say men who are virgins are automatically repulsive, and I know other virgin men who have been treated that way as well. The anonymous women here on reddit are typically nicer with their words, but overwhelmingly share the same sentiment. Your anecdote isn't representative of common social attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:00 PM
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Check my profile, I wrote up an essay and touched on this in the first few paragraphs. It's depressing and disheartening, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:31 AM
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I really don't know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:21 AM
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Approaching first, smiling, eye contact, twirling / playing with hair, effort into the conversation, poking chest out, small brief touches, standing in close proximity, glances towards body parts that are main points of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:10 AM
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Having a a genuinely happy family is not a realistic goal for most men nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:17 AM
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I'm not really making a point on the subtle differences in skin tone. What I'm saying is that minority men typically lose out when it comes to dating, but particularly so when attempting to pursue the their ethnic / cultural female counterparts. That's not because of "wanting to get away from a stringent culture", it's because women typically like men that are associated with status, which minority men typically are not. In the case of the USA, white men typically win big time (good for them) no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:50 PM
1

Uh what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 08:04 PM
5

Approaching first, smiling, eye contact, twirling / playing with hair, effort into the conversation, poking chest out, small brief touches, standing in close proximity, glances towards body parts that are main points of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:34 PM
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Absolutely has nothing to do with that. Women will tolerate and even justify poor treatment from men they're attracted due to the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:20 PM
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Dude, women don't struggle to come up with intros when wanting to talk an attractive man. That's the whole entire difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:16 PM
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It's not that they don't want to. If every man om bumble were good looking enough for women to initiate interactions themselves, they wouldn't change their model. It's not about women not having the guts to initiate. It's just that most men are unattractive and don't illicit arousal in most women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:00 PM
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They absolutely want to approach men, so long as they look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:56 PM
1

I'm not entirely sure of what you're trying to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:55 PM
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Lots of guys just aren't aware of this because we all want to feel desired by our woman, but this clouds our judgment and doesn't allow is to evaluate things objectively. Based on what we know about female sexuality and attraction, pairing that with average figures across multiple metrics men are often evaluated by, there's no reason to believe most women could be attracted to most men. The distribution of numbers just does not add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:51 PM
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I am far from being in denial. I am an ugly mfer with no shot at anything remotely romantic and I am 100% aware of this about myself. What I'm saying is that being a normal dude typically isn't enough for a woman to potentially feel sexually attracted to a man or want to form a bond with him. Those things are reserved for the highest percentile men with traits (typically inherited) and qualities that make them of more value. Average and below average are distinguishable for sure, but neither are…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:40 PM
1

Far more common than we think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:34 PM
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Yeah they don't want to reach out to guys they think are repulsive. But the top tier guys are receiving 10× as more messages. It's not they don't want to approach guys. There just aren't enough of the men they want to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:33 PM
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Women don't find most men attractive in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:32 PM
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But it's alot more than being flat put ignored. And although IOI's aren't approaches, attractive men do receive then frequently during interactions when women DO approach, which is something they experience quite often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:28 PM
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Point is, women are already approaching men, just not the ugly ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:09 PM
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Women are already approaching the men they're attracted to. Good looking men get very clear IOI's from multiple women. Ugly men don't experience this, so we're mostly unaware when this happens, unless we pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:09 PM
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The "average guy" is almost as invisible as below average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:58 PM
1

So you believe women are 100% truthful all the time and that women never settle for guys they don't actually want? That's what you're telling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:33 PM
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I don't know where you're from, or what demographics surround you. I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on SEA / EA or Indian culture, because I'm not any of those. But I can't ignore what I see in real life either. I'm from the USA, and in the part where I'm from, SEA / EA and indian women almost exclusively date / hookup with white men. The SEA / EA and Indian men I know are almost all single and their female ethnic counterparts don't want anything to do with them. Actually, it's not uncommon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:31 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:34 PM
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No it isn't important, because women like and will choose a non minority man over a man who's an ethnic minority despite being an ethnic minority themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:36 PM
0

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:28 AM
1

I don't live in a Disney movie man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:28 AM
1

Its about both.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:27 AM
1

Thanks for taking this opportunity to shit on me, appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 10:27 AM
1

Maybe you and the women you know don't, but to say that no women just because of your anecdotes is ridiculous. Women absolutely settle for men they see as wallets so they can obtain stability to a certain degree, while secretly desiring other men. Saying this doesn't happen is the actual nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:15 AM
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You are though. You're saying that women don't date men they're not attracted to, which is absolutely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:30 AM
3

The men who attractive with long hair would be good looking regardless of the length of their hair, and vice versa for ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:21 AM
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Women absolutely do it. What are you even on about? Are you seriously trying to tell me that every single woman is sexually attracted to and aroused by the men they marry? Thanks for the insult, but I don't have any partners, so jokes on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:18 AM
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I won't say evert single one, but it's definitely way more than most women will admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:17 AM
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Actually the opposite. Women's preferences in men are far narrower than they admit. The whole idea that a variety of men can be attractive isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:15 AM
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Women typically don't like ethnic men relative to where they live in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:47 AM
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Great content from wheat waffles. Definitely took me aback when I found him, for sure heavy stuff to swallow but accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:45 AM
1

You females on here are so hellbent on gaslighting us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:44 AM
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Yup, they look for a wallet but don't love them. Depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:42 AM
-1

Who dates someone they’re not attracted to? Women do, are for all sorts of reasons. You cannot possibly be this naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:39 AM
2

A woman making a life with a man doesn't mean anything. At all. Women will absolutely settle for men they don't like for financial / lifestyle reasons, and still crave the men they're actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:38 AM
1

You don't ask women to know more about them. You observe what they do. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:27 AM
6

Let's hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:21 AM
1

Yeah, no rebuttal. Only trying to make me look crazy. Thanks for your sarcastic good wishes 👍🏻.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:24 PM
1

Yeah, there's exceptions to every rule. And me refusing to be empathetic with women as a whole due to past experiences isn't me being a monster. It's justified. But I guess it's only okay when women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:12 PM
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Only applies to top tier men. Useless for average guys who want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:06 PM
1

My family members are an exception. And that's not to say that I won't ever be kind to any individual woman going through a hard time. I'm not the heartless anime you think I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:02 PM
1

Why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:26 PM
1

I can count on one hand the women who have treated me with dignity, and they all share my last name. And I am bitter, but not necessarily at rejection that way you want to frame it. Yeah, I have been bullied, by lots of people, are you going to tell me to get over it? You don't know a thing about me or what is more likely to be about anything in my life. You can make all the assumptions you want. Me knowing what's real and calling out the uncomfortable truths everyone else ignores isn't me havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:19 PM
1

As I said, I have no reason to demonstrate empathy towards a group who have never shown it to me. I doubt you're empathetic towards average Joe's walking around, so don't sit here and point the finger at me. You don't seem to be any different. I won't lie, I am absolutely biased. But I won't accept you calling me hateful. I don't hate women. Cynical? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:22 PM
-1

And even when it is a man they're not attracted to, women still receive an ego boost and increase in their self esteem to reject those men, even moreso when they send them with their tails in between the legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:07 PM
-1

Women only feel it as an inconvenience when the guy is a normal average looking dude. Women don't complain when it's a hunk, those guys could say whatever they want. I'm under no obligation to demonstrate empathy towards a group of people who have never shown me any.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:59 PM
0

Not entirely sure what conflict you're referring to, but it's not an alien concept to me that women are the ones that are primarily being pursued. That's completely true, and it's to the detriment of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:33 AM
-1

Which coincidentally always ends up being ugly men due to the halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:23 AM
-1

All of that stuff applies so long as the men around women are average and boring, with the exception of lesbians. When the rare Mr. 6'3 and handsome comes along, they're all of a sudden ready to put themselves out there again. If a man is considered to be creepy, arrogant or aggressive, he wasn't seen as attractive in the first place. So you're conflating two things that are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:06 AM
2

And every guy should learn to live without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:17 AM
3

*when its coming from unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:15 AM
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What women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:42 PM
–

Well, I may not be entirely happy, but I'm not a sucker anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:15 PM
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He never made that claim. What's he saying is that it's unreasonable to tell men to just turn our biological drive to reproduce off, it's not possible, nor is it possible to not feel emotionally distressed over knowing we're of less reproductive value to women. It would be like telling us to just not be hungry while lacking food.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:50 PM
2

Better to be an asshole than to be a chump.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:34 AM
8

And we'd completely right to do so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:42 PM
8

You nailed it, women think all men have the same lifestyles as the ones they pay attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:45 PM
3

There's alot of them in this thread pretending to care too.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 09:28 PM
1

Women nowadays have it much easier in dating, sex, romance, socializing, and being accepted and received well for the most part, while simultaneously pointing the finger at men for being horrible rapists that are the reasons why women have it soooo hard nowadays, while also ignoring the actual shitty behavior from top tier men. Its exhausting and I'm tired or pretending this doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:44 PM
1

There's tons of things, that aren't relevant to this thread, not even sure why I brought it up or what this post was even about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:56 PM
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It's amazing how women are allowed to generalize men and apply the most horrible sweeping statements towards us, but as soon as men dare say something about women, we get out teeth kicked in and get called rapists for nothing more than noticing behavioral patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:53 PM
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You take the behaviors of shit men and projected that onto all of us, because the decent men that don't get around easily are practically non existent to you. You fucking men with no standards is YOUR problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:51 PM
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Just because most of them aren't doesn't mean there aren't some that are. And being able to have sex is better than not being able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:49 PM
1

I am begging you, please, show me where I blamed women for being abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:15 PM
1

Cool good for the both of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:08 PM
1

Okay, the next time a women claims to have been abused by a man, I'll be sure to call her crazy and tell her to a psychiatrist, since it's impossible for a woman to be abused. The same you way you think it's impossible for women to be cunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:08 PM
1

How would hearing things with my own ears be "paranoid delusions"? Are you saying I'm schizophrenic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:52 PM
1

Good for him. I doubt it though, you just need to say something to make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:51 PM
1

I've seen it all the time. And even if they don't outwardly harass them, they most definitely degrade them with their group.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:50 PM
1

Do you and I even live on the same planet? WOMEN scream abuse at ugly short men for daring to leave their house.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:30 PM
1

Oh yeah okay you're right I forgot to take accountability for being a 5'8 dyslexic ugly latino, all of which I can change, thanks for the advice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:30 PM
1

You won't even engage my argument. All you keep asserting is that I have women. Seems to me you know what I'm saying is true and have no counterargument. While I don't hate women, I certainly don't like them either. So I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:22 PM
2

Not nearly as much as women do it to men. Women are the ones to shit o, disrespect and degrade men they aren't attracted to and entertain the men that would trade them for a dollar. They emasculate men they don't want because they don't see them as true men the way they see the men they want as real men, and then complain about Ken being shitty because those are the only men they pay attention to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:21 PM
2

Did you honestly expect me to believe that? As if it weren't women to do this to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:12 PM
2

This is such an unbelievable projection of what women do, I can't even believe you tried to say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:12 PM
1

👍
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:08 PM
2

Eh, don't know about that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:08 PM
1

I never claimed the first the statement you're making. You're projecting that onto me in an attempt to make it seem like I'm contradicting myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:25 PM
2

Women will not admit to, and many times even deny things that are true to protect their self image.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:23 PM
2

Telling uncomfortable truths doesn't make me hateful towards women. And being hateful doesn't make me unfuckable, that's verifiably false, women go for POS douchebags that mistreat them all the time. So there must be a different explanation. And I'm not saying I'm more intelligent than you, as a matter of fact, I would actually say I'm quite dumb. I just choose not the entertain lies and see people for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:22 PM
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It's not an assumption. It's what I observe most of the time. Women just don't experience the depth of emotions men do, which is an advantage women have over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:03 PM
2

You can imply that I'm an unfuckable loser all you want, nothing I've said is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:32 AM
2

I am, in no way, shape or form, saying that women don't have the right to choose their partners. Every single time I point out the hypocrisy of women, without fail, some woman has to come along and imply that I said that women shouldn't have rights, when I never implied anything evenly remotely close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:31 AM
0

But having more people who want to have sex with you makes it easier to find someone who is a potential life partner. And even if women have to weed out the men who only want to pump and dump, don't tell me women don't enjoy the validation that comes with being desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:29 AM
2

That's not what I said and you know it. I said it's not hate to point out that women are far more shallow than they are willing to admit. I never said women shouldn't be allowed to make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:27 AM
2

I don't need any help, I know what's real and what's fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:24 AM
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Nope, and I refuse to gaslighted on this. The women wanting to be listened to and claim men aren't empathetic are the same exact ones to cheer on the increasing male suicide rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:18 PM
1

I'm not saying it's "unfair", what I'm saying is that it's harder for men way more than women are willing to admit. Being that I don't date, I don't have a fear in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:02 PM
1

For everyone. For men. I never made that claim. You're trying to project entitlement onto me to try and discredit what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:53 PM
7

That's not hate. That's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:52 PM
6

It's much easier for women than it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:51 PM
1

Whatever. Some of those guys keep it real. I know who I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:09 PM
2

Knowing where I stand in today's world amongst the rest of everybody else isn't a cult idea. I've had multiple experiences that lead me to believe what I believe. I don't speak out of my ass. In terms of being a "mark", you're probably talking about guys on the internet who speak about issues in dating, romance and sex. Being that there's so many of them, I can't give you an exact idea of what to day about them or why you seem think they're targeting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:50 PM
2

Um what? I'm just acknowledging what's true and real, idk what you're on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:50 PM
2

Me not being in a relationship has nothing to do with me doing "the wrong things" or having the "wrong attitude". It has do with some men being immutably undesirable due to circumstances of birth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:42 PM
1

I'm not in relationship. I don't even understand your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:17 PM
2

Pure 100% projection of female behavior onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:48 PM
3

Spot on brother, but this information is something we have to just know for ourselves, because we can't expect most women to be honest on this. They attempt to gaslight us until their last breath to avoid admitting the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:46 PM
1

For men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:29 AM
0

No no no, you've changed my mind. I totally believe you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:27 AM
0

Yeah well he probably wouldn't consider himself too happy if he read your comment about him either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:23 AM
0

Yeah sure, whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:23 AM
1

?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:59 AM
0

Put your hurt feelings to the side and learn When men have a grievance it's always "suck it up and do better!" But when women have a grievance, we all have to be lectured and get fingers wagged at us because we're the ones responsible for women's insecurities. Just not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:16 AM
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I don't need my partner R.I.P. bro 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:55 AM
8

It shows that you're caring, compassionate, empathetic, patient, dedicated, and you get personal fulfillment out of helping creatures in distress and changing their lives around. The fundamental flaw in your perspective is that woman are not actually attracted to those qualities you listed out, and I would even say there's an argument to be made women are are actually UNATTRACTED to those traits. So does rescuing cats and helping cats demonstrate those qualities? Yeah, but they're nowhere near a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:29 PM
1

No one is being emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:29 PM
1

Aight you got me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:44 PM
1

She was absolutely antagonizing men with her comment. I refuse to be gaslighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:42 PM
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And what "she" said is indicative of the common talking points that woman use against men to try and her hide their own shallow behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:34 PM
1

Are you a woman that can't handle being called out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:31 PM
0

Pointing out lies, double standards and propaganda isn't "whining", but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:31 PM
-1

I'm not "offended", I call out BS when I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:30 PM
-1

Again, complete projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:13 PM
-3

Yeah, and a typical answer of your gender at that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:11 PM
-6

A lot of men see women just as maids they can have sex with 3 times a week You people will come on here and say the most awful things about men as if it weren't a complete projection of how women actually feel about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:09 PM
2

What a phenonomal way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:15 AM
4

It's a great response that succinctly and accurately summarizes the dynamics surrounding this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:06 AM
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Women are only aware of the men they're attracted to, say the top 15% or 20% of men, while the rest may as well be magical puppets that can somehow walk. They observe the men they're attracted to, they see how easy things can come to them, and than, because those are the only men that realy exist to them, they project those experiences onto all men. Not realizing they would actually consider most other men dispendsable losers if they were to actually notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:02 AM
1

I actually don't perpetuate the belief. Being that you're a woman, I thought it was a safe assumption that you did feel that way. Assuming you're not lying to save face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:54 AM
1

I don't perpuate that belief. That is a commonly held POV by the vast majority of women. You being an exception does not disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:43 AM
1

A man who is incapable of making a women feel safe is perceived as not masculine by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:39 AM
1

So if the danger is potentially the same, I (or other women) might as well go for who makes them feel safe or happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:36 AM
1

So short, ugly, small-framed men are less masculine. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:42 PM
3

Any man who isn't high value is automatically low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:55 AM
11

Women giving advice that manipulates men into feeding their own egos is predictable at this point. I always make sure to push back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:38 PM
42

If you think nerdy awkward virgins are going to find success in cold-approaching, you're either completely out of touch with how dating / romance goes nowadays or you're hoping some poor naive guys read this and you want to set them up for failure cause you get off of humiliating unlucky dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:34 PM
3

They were all narcissistic and abusive, but she'll fuck them 7 days a week while the new guy, who's actually decent, has to wait 6 months for a kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:26 AM
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Yup, while none of the women are ever the problem. What a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:14 AM
19

No, I just don't live in a Disney movie.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 11:56 PM
9

What point have you proven here, exactly?
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 10:22 PM
14

Yes, and they like those men based off of the inheritable / immutable traits I just mentioned. And I don't know what you're even about with your second sentence.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 09:33 PM
11

You think that just because you have a GF you get to come in here and be a fucking punk I'm sorry that not all of us guys are fortunate enough to have the qualities or are good enough to get a woman to like us like you do, but you don't have to be a fucking prick and twist the knife further
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 07:49 PM
12

The idea that any man can find a partner is wrong and delusional. Women pick their partners based on a pre decided set of mostly immutable characteristics that most men don't possess. So yeah, maybe dudes can find a woman to settle for them, but not love them.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 07:41 PM
7

If refusing to cower to the mainstream lies that we've been fed our entire lives is being fucked in the head, than so be it. If acknowledging the fucked up realities of what goes in our world and how humans behave is too much for you, leave, but just know the truth is true no matter how much you want to deny it.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 07:38 PM
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Nobody is suggesting that. The point of this is just to point out the reality of how people behave as opposed to the propaganda men are fed to keep us blind. The uncomfortable truth is preferable to the pleasant lies.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 06:42 PM
13

That absolutely is the case. Women pick men based on their inheritable traits so that their children can possess those desired traits as well.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/24 06:38 PM
13

Makes all the sense in the world that you give the advice that feeds your female ego, even at the cost of a man's dignity and self image.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:08 AM
2

If you think guys get friendzoned because of bad social skills, you are either intentionally lying to gaslight others or have no idea what you're talking about. What determines whether a guys gets friendzoned or not is if the woman in question is attracted to the man in question. Not much else to it. you've got women in here just about every day practically begging you guys to stop believing this BS because you all couldn't be more wrong. I don’t listen to what they say. I watch what they do. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:05 PM
9

Guys get friendzoned because of bad social skills What a load of horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:01 AM
3

Spot on, but I don't expect women to be honest about it. It's far better to observe what they do and disregard what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:36 PM
1

you're disposable to all random strangers Yeah but men and women in supposedly "committed" relationships aren't strangers to eachother. If anything women are more compassionate towards downtrodden and unlucky men than other men are. Yeah, and pigs can fly too. if you can't provide it they'll eventually walk away and find someone else who can. The definition of disposable, so we agree. how you can stop putting yourself in situations where you feel disposable Being disposable isn't a feeling, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:46 PM
4

Yes it absolutely would. Pretending most men aren't disposable to most women in todays world is delusional, and I refuse to play along with lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:27 AM
5

does this basically mean that average guys wait until the majority of women in the US who are participating in hookup culture cool down and settle for a guy they wouldn't necessarily be interested in physically and emotionally for the sake of a serious relationship This is the obvious alternative for most men, but we don't have to put up with that. I absolutely refuse to be a fall back option, being settled for is humiliating and disrespectful. My goal is to one day lose my virginity, get that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:51 PM
12

Absolutely, but don't expect women to be honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:37 PM
0

Cosigned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:38 PM
2

What I mean to say by the phrase "Disney movies" is basically made up fantasy worlds where things turn out the way they should and that everything will be alright if you do the right things. The idea that love is meant for everyone and that wholesome endings are the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:03 PM
1

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:00 AM
1

Nice song
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:05 AM
13

no one gives a fk about an issue if the victims are solely men Bingo. But don't expect any true empathy from the enemy. They'll come under the guise of wanting to reach a mutual understanding and then flip it when convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:26 AM
34

My question is: are men's issues just doomed to never get attention? For the time being, seems like it's going to stay that way for a very long time. can we even do anything to push back against society's apathy? The best thing you can do is to become apathetic yourself towards society. That way, what our society decides to do does not matter as much, because you will have chosen to reject corrupt principles and not give into their lies. You are have no responsibility to care about those who are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:17 AM
2

Ah yes, because, just like addition, concepts such as the wall are part of global early childhood educational institutions and are common knowledge. The fact that you don't even realize you fucked up is hilarious tho 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:09 AM
3

Yes you did, you basically told me to be quiet and that I didn't know what I was talking about in a more polite way. Don't try and back track now after realizing you fucked up. What is so stupid and disingenuous about not being familiar with the meaning of something as vague as "the wall"? Officer, do you have a list of every phrase / concept I have to be an expert at before being allowed to comment here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:01 AM
3

What the fuck are you talking about? I never commented on it, the other redditor randomly asked me if I knew what it meant. Read the the thread before you come at me, goofy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:13 PM
20

Yup, it's hard to cultivate because of the desire to have sex and receive affection from a woman but learning to devalue their approval is important. I haven't been able to fully do this, but I'm getting better and hope other men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:10 PM
0

Well, it's the first I'm hearing of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:48 PM
-2

lmao sure "dump" means: deposit or dispose of (rubbish, waste, or unwanted material), typically in a careless or hurried way. who else wants to repeat this nonsense 😂😂 I have no idea what you're trying to get at here. And the wall as you describe it is a new concept to me. I've personally never heard anybody claim that women are useless past a certain age and it's not an idea I would agree with it. So what are you even on about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:44 PM
6

Um what? Pump and dump is when a dude bangs a woman and doesn't commit to her I guess? What are you getting at? And "the wall" means a specific wall, cause it's THE wall, not just any wall. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:33 PM
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If that's the impression women are getting from men, than I suppose so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:20 PM
104

The best course of action for most young men nowadays is to develop the same behaviors and attitudes you're talking about. Coming to terms with the fact that the vast majority of men are disposable to woman is important so that we can tune our expectations appropriately and not naively live in a Disney movie. As for women, don't ever expect any of them to empathize with any grievance men express, don't waste your time. The "protective shield" is hard to strip for a reason, it's necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:12 PM
3

Yup, doesn't take much to get the truth out of them. Just simple lines of questions exposes the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:10 PM
3

Because nowadays they have every upper hand they could ask for and still aren't happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:09 PM
5

Which is why I have refuse to lend an ear to any of their issues in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:46 PM
1

Am a paramedic, am also fugly. There's no advantage at all when your face is busted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:14 AM
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