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Men doing their victory laps during the 4% to 9% of the time the family annihilator isn't a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/26 01:51 AM
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If he wants a woman who enjoys cooking Oh wow, you mean he wants someone who is willing to do a daily, time-consuming chore on his behalf for free, for little benefit in return? Can you see how protecting women from imaginary lions and tigers everyday, has little practical benefit to actual chores that need to be done everyday. Women themselves regularly say they want a man who makes them feel safe or protected. If wanting a bigger, stronger man And her preferences just happen to involve no actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 10:57 PM
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men are usually the ones expected to initiate, pursue, deal with rejection, and actually create most of their dating opportunities in the first place. Yes, because men don't provide any value to women. Therefore, men have to approach. If he had value, then women would approach. women can have much harder preferences without putting in nearly as much of that work Because she has value. Do you see how that works? protective Men aren’t fighting lions and tigers everyday from the safety of the couch…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 10:02 PM
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It's hard for women to find men attractive when 77% of them are obese or overweight in the US. There are 18 million more obese and overweight men than women, needing to go on a diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 09:09 PM
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It's kinda relevant if he's selling relationship advice, while he's unable to keep relationships himself. The fact that he isn't able to follow his own advice to keep a relationship, undermines his authority on the subject, because he isn't qualified to sell relationship advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 08:31 PM
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She just loves me. She does whatever I want in bed. She pays for the dates. She is prettier than my first girlfriend and I would be a terrible boyfriend by liberal standards. If you cast off reality, you too can be just as delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 08:21 PM
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He’s also twice divorced and lost his house. This is the guy whom OP is following for advice? The guy that can't keep a wife? Nor a house? We might as well follow Kevin Samuels, who loved threatening women with dying alone, only to end dying alone in a hotel room with a woman he met that night. Calling women leftovers, while being the one who ends up in the fridge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 08:21 PM
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There's an unfair chore split because there's an unfair provider split. However, there's no proof that men are working less total time than women. So how do you explain husbands of primary female breadwinners who work 2 fewer hours than their wives, while doing 3.4 fewer hours of chores and childcare? They're the only demographic that works less and does fewer hours of chores and childcare, whereas it's the opposite for women. But it's somehow "both sides". I talk about men not having the right …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 08:08 PM
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If only women also had access to the same trick men use to deal with unwanted pregnancies, which is to get up and leave the relationship because they're tired of dealing with it, because it's not their body at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 07:50 PM
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How am l arguing in bad faith? What is wrong or misleading about my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:39 PM
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would you not call it unfair? Fair? Like these men are entitled to relationships, but didn't get one and feel cheated as a result? So now men need some sort of DEI dating rewards program for needy and inept men to gain relationships stamps on a card that they cash in for a relationship? So that things are fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:35 PM
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Are we seriously equating the actions of the Israeli government with hiring practices that recify the historical disadvantage women had for 2000 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:20 PM
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There are 18 million more fat assholes than bitches in the US. It's more likely that it's a fat asshole whining about not being picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:11 PM
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Women have not only been actively campaigning for others to violate their immediate interests (see gender employment quotas) The patriarchy is the longest and most persistent DEI program for men. Women's DEI initiatives have only been in place for 20 years, while the patriarchy has persisted for over 2000 years. Have your descendants get back to my descendants in 4026. Then we will call it even.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:08 PM
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stay at home fathers, than there are women willing to support stay at home fathers. Female sole breadwinners don't want to support SAHDs who spend 7 times more hours on leisure time than on their own children, especially when they literally do nothing all day. How can we get equality in household chores and child care, if women are unwilling to let men trade off their typical male roles, and take on more of the female roles? How can we get equality in the household when SAHDs only do 40% of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 05:59 PM
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If men projected any harder, we could watch movies off their greasy foreheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 05:26 PM
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If women cooked as much as men mowed the lawn, we would all die of starvation. That is, if they haven't already mentioned ancient archeological projects they weren't involved with, but will pretend they were, to cover up the fact that they provide nothing of value to women in relationships. Some guy built a bridge 50 years ago, another guy died falling in a mine shaft, while his neighbor unclogged a drain. Therefore all men are excluded from cooking and cleaning duties forever. If only women can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 05:16 PM
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So men are mad because men can't domestically enslave women as easily as they could in the past? Oh no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 05:02 PM
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breadwinner Not all men are breadwinners if only 22% of men are. Can't really claim that all men are breadwinners if 78% of them aren't. A lot of men are rightfully frustrated What do men have to be pissy about? Are they the ones expected to bring home 50% the income, while doing the majority of the chores and childcare in the household? Are they the ones expected to bring home all the income and still have to do half the chores and childcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 05:00 PM
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So they tend to restrict women in such ways that the mating market doesn't get democratised in the first place So men who want to repeal the 19th Amendment, no-fault divorce and abortion rights for women are Red Pill loser men who want to trap women in domestic servitude because they wouldn't have relationships otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 04:55 PM
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because men want women a whole lot more than women want men Only if you define "want" as in men wanting a wife appliance to slot into their lives. If men actually cherished women, they wouldn't be content to let her work all day and then stick her with the majority of chores and childcare. So we'll probably see more mentally disturbed incels lashing out with acts of random violence But feminazis being mean on the internet are just as bad because both sides, whataboutthewomen, women are bad too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 04:34 PM
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For all men complain about wokeness, they sure do feel entitled to their government-issued DEI dating program for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 04:13 PM
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Men actually tend to bring in +60% Not all men. Only 33% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 04:04 PM
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Self-inflicted. because men don't go to the doctor, eat garbage and drink themselves to death if the wife isn't there to knock that out of his hands. Men are children women need to take care of. That's why women date fewer men, initiate divorce and stay single for their rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 04:02 PM
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Transmutable wombs. Until men take on half the burden of pregnancy, childbirth and abortion, they shouldn't be whining about bodily autonomy and the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 03:29 PM
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Equality for men is bringing in 50% of the income, while doing about 20% of the household chores and childcare, while gaslighting women by calling them inefficient and engaging in needless busy work and telling women to communicate better because men aren't mind readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 03:21 PM
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Those men are socially conditioned to believe that being moral will get you a chance of being loved. Because men didn't get their daily allotment of vagina, promised by the government, they're going to abandon their moral code. when they are “good” and still struggle, while seeing men who aren’t, resentment builds Some immoral men have access to vagina. How does this have any relevance to incels, who don't have access to vagina but feel they are morally entitled to it? The women wouldn't have sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 02:59 PM
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group of women willing to be with them What business is it of yours who these women are willing to be with? Why are you judging these women for their dating choices? Is there an index of men women should and should not be dating? and incels dont says alot Are these women supposed to be dating incels? So much for women's agency. nothing to do with them being evil or good Whether you choose to be good regardless of reward has every to do with being good or evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 02:40 PM
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I was talking to her about her comically huge font. Not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 02:29 PM
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Boys have no legal protection from genital mutilation, girls have that protection. That's a men's cause for men to advocate for. Complain to your fellow men for not caring about other men. Men have to be ready to be sent to die in war in random country they don't even care about Men overwhelmingly support old farts. Left wing groups like the ACLU are trying to end Selective Service, while any changes are shot down by conservative groups. as soon as some old fart decides he really wants "legacy" …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 02:26 PM
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This font is not big enough. But maybe they'll get it if we issue some government alloted vagina to go along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 02:06 PM
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it’s simply the dichotomy between what men are told works and what actually works that there upset about Again, we've talked about this. Men are not entitled to vagina. If they don't get any, even if they were nice, they should not whine about it. they claim good men = getting a girlfriend Men are not entitled to vagina. we need to remember the incels get can’t even get that and therefore views his situation as worse, Men are not entitled to vagina. I feel like you're not getting the point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 02:03 PM
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She's pointing out the moral entitlement some men have to women because they were good. If men need outside incentive to be good, then they weren't good to begin with. The ability of bad men who have access to women regardless of their morality, should have no bearing on the behavior of actual moral men. The fact that it does, suggests that men do feel morally entitled to vagina and they feel morally entitled to vagina more than bad men because they were good and are angry because they didn't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 01:56 PM
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Equality will make things easier for men Yes, men are relieved of 50% of the pressure of being the breadwinner, while leaving the majority of childcare and chores to his wife. Men who work 2 fewer hours than their wives also do 3.4 fewer hours of childcare and chores at home. When women work 3.1 fewer hours, she gets 4.6 extra hours of chores and childcare to do because she worked less. SAHDs do 10.5 hours of chores and childcare, compared with SAHMs who do 25.2 hours per week. Will feel more of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 01:48 PM
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If you are going to abandon your moral code, then abandon it and take responsibility. cause it does say something when rapists and wife beaters have options compared to them who dont have anyone. Instead of blaming it on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 01:23 PM
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Nobody is jealous Yes, they are. Because "nice guys" keep mentioning these bad guys as a reason to break their own moral code, because they refuse to take responsibility for doing so. If men want to be jerks, then be jerks. But don't try to blame it on women, like men usually do. The fact is being good isnt the bare minimum when it comes to social interactions in general. That's what we've been saying this whole time. That men who need incentive to be nice aren't nice at all. We should be good b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 01:19 PM
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Are we seriously expecting anything more from men other than bad-faith arguments and logical fallacies? He hasn't hit you with assumptions or "both sides" yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 01:10 PM
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The convicted felon is an edge case in the nice guy Well, no. How is it an edge case scenario when many "nice men" feel a moral entitlement to vagina because they were nice? Then when they weren't rewarded with their daily government allotment of vagina, they get angry and are ready to abandon their moral code, because being nice got them no closer to a woman. bad boy While pointing to immoral men who got vagina regardless of their morals, as an excuse to abandon their moral code. guys who are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 01:05 PM
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Just because pro-life morons make stupid arguments, doesn't make their stupid arguments any less stupid when posted elsewhere. Women can spread their legs as much as they want, but will never get anyone pregnant, whereas a man who has a lot of unprotected sex will get many women pregnant. But here you are, trying to equate the actions of men and women as though they have the same outcome, when they clearly don't, to diffuse men's responsibility. That's where your logic sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 07:40 AM
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It’s societal. Yeah, there's no "both sides" here when women are predominantly the ones that campaign, advocate, volunteer, kinkeep and do the unpaid work to make things happen for other women. If women do all the work, while men do nothing, who exactly are you expecting to step up? Men do absolutely nothing to help themselves but aren't criticized for their laziness and entitlement. While women already do enough unpaid work but are criticized for not doing even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:47 AM
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Yes, and zero men will ever get pregnant and die from childbirth. But muh bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:37 AM
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Personally I think we should have more safety nets for men. More homeless shelters. More addiction services. This is a job for men to do. How is it a women's problem that men don’t care about other men to campaign on their behalf? Men are just as capable of building their social support networks and doing the grassroots campaigning and legwork to make things happen. They just don't want to because it's unpaid work they can't be bothered to do. But how can we blame this on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:35 AM
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Would love to see some “equality” in the form of women becoming as disposable as men Would love to see some "equality" from men to do some chores and childcare since women have taken 50% of the pressure of breadwinning from men, but are still stuck with the majority of the chores and childcare, like women don't also work. But that needle hasn't moved a millimeters. Only men can benefit from both feminism and the patriarchy and still have the nerve to complain that men are the victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:24 AM
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Male disposability is a result of a lower biological value. I'm pretty sure men's disposability is due to the fact that they don't do any chores and childcare, nor provide anything to women except more unpaid work to do. They could, you know, start doing more chores and childcare. They just don't want to, because it's women work and therefore beneath them because men are lazy and entitled. We don't bear children, it's that simple. A small human group consisting of 10 reproductive age men and 30 …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/26 06:13 AM
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roads, cars, buildings But only a few men did these things. Not all men. Because men can't articulate the value they provide to women, because they provide none, they have resort to stealing the accomplishments of someone else and claim it as their own? Because some guy built a road 50 years ago, all men can claim credit for it, even though they had nothing to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 10:55 PM
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Also, woman can be and are also drafted into war. So women get the shit end of both sticks, where there is a possibility she can die from childbirth and war. Men, on the other hand, will never die from childbirth, yet they'll still complain about "muh bodily autonomy".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 10:40 PM
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Men make themselves disposable because they provide no value to women. The only thing men provide women is disappointing sex and more chores to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 09:45 PM
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Correct. Yet men feel entitled to abortion rights as if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 09:37 PM
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If a woman can make that decision unilaterally should she not be able to figure out if she can financially support a child on her own as well? Why take that agency and independence from a woman? Because when women have an abortion, the child is dead and there is no fetus to financially support. When men want a paper abortion, that child is still alive. Its financial needs don't just disappear. That financial burden gets transferred to someone else, like the taxpayer. Why should the taxpayer have…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 09:23 PM
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Imagine being in charge of your ejaculate yet failing to take responsibility for YOUR actions, and blaming the women for getting pregnant. When women get men pregnant, then we can blame women for their irresponsibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 08:50 PM
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If a women has a right to abortion because she doesn't want to pay or to be bothered with child care should a man not have that same right? The only reason women were granted abortion rights was because it was based on bodily autonomy. If women campaigned for abortion rights solely on financial reasons, they would have never gotten the right to abortion. Men don't go through pregnancy or abortion. Now they are trying to hijack a woman right to abortion based on bodily autonomy and claim it as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 08:25 PM
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The only politics women care about is being able to kill their child. Perhaps women would kill fewer children if they also had access to the one simple trick men use to deal with unwanted pregnancies, which is to get up and abandon the woman when he's tired of further dealing with it. What abortion rights do men have? When men undergo pregnancy or abortion, as women do, then they'll get their abortion rights. Men currently don't undergo pregnancy or abortion. Why are they entitled to abortion ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 07:47 PM
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Men are more tolerant of disagreement on those topics with their partner. It's easy for men to be more tolerant on disagreement because women aren't trying to take away men's voting rights, repeal no-fault divorce or men's abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 07:37 PM
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to cover alimony Only 7% of cases involve alimony paid to women. Because these 7% of men have to pay, somehow this applies to the 93% of men who don't pay alimony? child support Well, yeah. Men can't refuse to take custody and not pay child support. Were women supposed to pay men child support, while being the primary custodial parent in 4 out of 5 cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 07:31 PM
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Everyone is poorer after a divorce than they were had they stayed married. No. The incomes of ex-husbands rose by 25 per cent immediately after the split, but women saw a sharp fall in their finances Why do men lie and try to deny research and statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 07:19 PM
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Women advocate for other women. Why is it also her job to advocate for men, while men do nothing for themselves? Nothing is stopping men from advocating for other men, besides the fact that men don’t care enough about other men to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 07:12 PM
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everything to do with men not caring about the politics of their partner as much as women. It's easy for men to ignore the politics of women when women aren't trying to remove voting rights for men, no-fault divorce or men's abortion rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 06:44 PM
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I lie about my politics to some women because those women are incapable of having a civilized discussion Yes, because men who want to repeal the 19th Amendment, no-fault divorce and abortion rights to enslave women are much more reasonable to talk to. You can get laid or enter a LTR with people of opposing political views pretty easily, just dont be a zealot. Or just lie about your political stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 06:40 PM
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women are given much more leeway for their problematic beliefs than men are. Probably because women tend not to rape and murder others on the same scale as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 06:21 PM
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Men can't get legal paternal surrender in any state Yeah, but why should they? The right to an abortion based on bodily autonomy only legally entails that if men get pregnant, they can access an abortion. But just because men don't need an abortion, because they don't get pregnant, doesn't mean men can substitute a financial obligation in its place. How does the biological right of women to avoid pregnancy through abortion, given to them because she carries the baby, entitle men to be released f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 06:16 PM
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Most conservative guys lie and say they're liberals when they're dating. Men are willing to lie and misrepresent themselves to exploit women for sex because men are self-centered and lack personal integrity? Say it isn't so! Red Pill men are fucking baffled that women aren't behaving exactly like women did when those things weren't available to them. Red Pill men (and men in general) are baffled that they can't domestically enslave women like they could 50 years ago, which is why these men are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 05:37 PM
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Suddenly, the majority of men are bodybuilders that somehow carry fat around their necks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 04:47 PM
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protected Women feel very protected from men fighting lions and tigers every day from the safety of the couch. Then, in the once-in-a-lifetime chance that something does happen, men pussy out like that guy in Colombia. provided Just because 22% of men are sole male breadwinners doesn't mean it applies to every guy. Some men are breadwinners. Not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 04:43 PM
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Again, divorce favors you. Why do Red Pill men keep perpetuating this lie, despite evidence proving that women are often poorer after divorce? You need to post your sources, like l have. Leave and take half his shit. You'll give her nothing, because it's not yours to give. She earned it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 04:36 PM
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Red Pill men are unethical and exploitative in trying to combine chores and childcare, where he dumps the extra unpaid work on her, but suddenly wants to draw the line at combining finances. Men won't even clean their own bathrooms for free, but expect a woman to clean theirs for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 04:24 PM
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Getting him in basically a legal contract to stay with you forever (marriage) and ensuring the well being of your offspring and yourself. If this arrangement was beneficial to women, then women should want to stay in marriage. But they initiate 73% of divorces. Divorce? Women are often poorer after divorce. Women enriching themselves via divorce is a myth perpetuated by uneducated Red Pill men because they are dishonest and awful debaters. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/why-divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 04:20 PM
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Either way, it doesn’t change anything. If it didn't change anything, then why did you mention it? What was the point of that, other than to deflect attention away from men's gluttony by saying that wimmin are fat too? Men and women are both largely fat and unattractive right now There is no "both sides" when men aren't the ones outnumbered by an extra 18 million overweight and obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 03:53 PM
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Women are more likely to be both obese and morbidly obese So? Just because women are heavier when they are overweight doesn’t somehow reduce the overall number of obese and overweight men wadding around. She's already past the threshold of being overweight. How does her extra few pounds matter? Are the extra 18 million overweight and obese men somehow skinner now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 03:34 PM
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Maybe because the average man is overweight or obese and unattractive? If men want women to be attracted to them, have men reconsidered being obese blobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 03:08 PM
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where undesirable men attempt to claim that women must be lesbian because they don’t lust after men the way men lust after women. Women aren’t men. Trying to find a way to shame women into lusting instantaneously like men do Women aren't attracted to the surplus of 18 million obese and overweight men? These women must be lesbian feminazis. Fat men aren't fat. Only fat women are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 03:04 PM
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The reason why women respond to sexual stimuli, whether the stimulus is from men or women, is because it's an evolutionary trait of women to minimize the physical trauma of rape. Unlubricated, unwanted sex is painful and women lubricate naturally so that her vagina wouldn't be torn to shreds while she was being assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 02:54 PM
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we want regular sex Have men considered not sucking at pleasuring women? it just mean you're not interested in us sexually and it's going to be a fight each time we want With only 65% of women orgasming every time they have sex with men, I'm surprised women still have any sexual interest in men, considering how little sexual pleasure men provide them. friendzoned husband Men don't do their chores, watch their kids or sexually pleasure their women. They friendzoned themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 02:44 PM
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Why would a woman want a hook up? She has a 10% chance of orgasming during one night stands and puts herself at risk of pregnancy, stds and sexual violence. For nothing. A common complaint Who is complaining? Men can't exploit women for casual sex? Oh no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 02:32 PM
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she finds sexy about men she's called all sorts explitives and/or met with disgusted reactions (by both men and other women) Whore. She is called a whore. Or slut, hoe, hussy, libertine, loose, hooker, harlot, easy, or whatever slur you want to take off the shelf and use. We've got lots, but bring it back when you're done because there's a line of men waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 02:22 PM
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cynically exploited for my resources How are women exploting men for their resources during the dating period? Does the disappointing sex men provide women count as a resource? How do you exploit the lack of an orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 02:13 PM
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“I’m so tired of women not splitting the bill for a date.” Men should refuse to date women until women agree to split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 02:03 PM
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it’s wondering how known rapists can still keep pulling women after there crimes have been revealed, while the average feminist left wing guy is still struggling, Why would the vagina accessed by a rapist have any bearing on whether or not average feminist left wing guys have any moral entitlement to vagina? Do these guys feel entitled precisely because they aren't a rapist and are angry because a man who is a rapist, who therefore has no moral entitlement to vagina, has more access than these m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 01:42 PM
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down miscommunication due to lack of shared experience. This is no exception. How is there miscommunication if both men and women are being truthful? If men don't want to commitment, they should be dating women who also don't want commitment, not dating women who want commitment. They never have the opportunity get to know a woman, or treat her like a person, or any of that A poor person is never going to get to do rich people activities. Do we feel sorry for them? Are we suggesting some sort of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 01:14 PM
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Made don’t open you leg immediately on the first date cause Chad says you should. Why are you trying to equate leg opening with irresponsible ejaculation? Opening her legs doesn't get anyone pregnant. She can be spread eagled all day and won't ever impregnate a man. But if men ejaculate irresponsibly into women, they will get many women pregnant. One party has a 0% chance of causing unwanted pregnancies, while the other party has a 100% chance of causing unwanted pregnancies, yet responsibility …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 11:07 AM
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Yes, because women also impregnate men and abandon them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 05:29 AM
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Yes, because men are irresponsible and abandon their families constantly once they get tired of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 05:13 AM
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I wish women could deal with abortions the way men could, which is to abandon the woman once they get tired of it and let the woman deal with it on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/26 03:58 AM
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So would you say that this subreddit is an ineffectual place? No. Women here make strong arguments and provide evidence to prove their assertions, while men refuse to. Just because men are lazy and incompetent at debating doesn't somehow imply that women are just as lazy and incompetent. That the women here who pick at nuance on the matter The same nuance that men ignore in order to conflate 2 separate cases that have little in common beyond the fact that children were murdered, in order to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 08:09 AM
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Then why don't men get together and raise awareness and support for other men, like women have done for Lindsay? It seems like you've opened another can of worms for men. Not only do they commit 90% of violent crime, men also don't care about other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 07:34 AM
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Tell that to the men. There aren't any "both sides" here when women commit 4% to 9% of family annihilations. The women don't need to be told. They understand the assignment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 07:30 AM
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Why are you trying to compare a modern day gladiator, whose afflictions are due to his own damn fault, with a post-partum woman who gave birth 3 times, on 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication and sought help for her afflictions? The only thing these 2 cases have in common is that children were murdered. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 07:19 AM
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It is most definitely a gendered thing In that women give birth and suffer from post-partum depression because of it, while men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 07:13 AM
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To kill your own family, you must be insane Not necessarily. Many men kill their families due to an extreme entitlement and lack of empathy. They aren't insane. They know exactly what they are doing. They just don't care, because all that matters is him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 07:11 AM
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The male situations you're mentioned are nearly obscure because no one's coming out to support Because men don't care about other men. Which is why men have fewer friends and much smaller social support networks than women. Because men are self-centered and don't care about anyone but themselves. Next time a man goes through post-partum depression from giving birth and murders their children, men should get off the couch, stop playing so many video games and support him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 07:04 AM
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She had medicine she chose not to take. Short of ripping her out of the house and forcing her to take medicine what logically could have been done You're getting your cases mixed up here. Lindsay was on 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication. There's no history of Chris getting help for his CTE. Wow, it's almost as if you shouldn't generalize cases that have little in common to make a stupid commentary about feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 06:54 AM
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Now who's making assumptions? murderers shouldn't get millions in donations after killing 3 babies. She's not getting the donations. Her parents are. It's pretty dumb that women are literally saying the husband did it No one is saying the husband did it, but they're saying he's negligent in leaving her with the kids, when a doctor witnessed Lindsay tell Patrick she heard a male voice telling her to kill the kids a few days before the killings. To add insult to injury, Patrick is already remarrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 06:49 AM
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When men commit 91% to 95% of family annihilations, men will grasp at anything to lower that number and shirk responsibility. Men refusing to be accountable while commiting family annihilations, name a more iconic duo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 06:37 AM
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Well, l don't know. Did Chris Benoit also give birth to 3 children, go through post-partum depression and was on 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication? No? repeated head trauma Probably should have quit wrestling. Was Lindsay also a wrestler too? was a steroid abuser Probably should have stopped abusing steroids. Did Lindsay abuse steroids? Because that's the difference.Benoit had documented neurological damage , objectively worse than postpartum psychosis. Yet there was no movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 06:26 AM
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Because generally speaking women have large support systems Yes, because the social support sky fairy dropped these networks onto women's laps, while conveniently ignoring the men. Is the social support sky fairy also a misandric feminazi too? It couldn't possibly be because women did the unpaid work to build their own social support networks, the very work that men avoid doing because they are lazy, self-centered and care little about the people around them. Men don't want to do the work to bui…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 04:42 AM
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What I meant would be more like the recipient can feel pressured, uncomfortable, whatever feelings she feels are valid. Uh, what the hell do you think coercion feels like? Now you're trying to split hairs and be pedantic on the meaning of coercion. So ya, I'm not feelings don't matter, but I just think feelings themselves alone aren't sufficient to classify someone else conduct. That's exactly what you are saying, that only the aggressor's feelings count and take precedence over the recipient's …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 04:26 AM
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Why do we have to do anything for men that women don't find attractive? Because feminism. Now that men have finally taken their boot off our necks and can't further systematically oppress women through the patriarchy, men think we owe them a DEI program for dating as a reward for not continuing to treat women like domestic slaves. Because fair is fair. Or aren't you fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 04:12 AM
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The fertility crisis is due to men being horrible fathers and husbands that refuse to do any chores and childcare and dump the majority of parenting onto women. Now that women have their own financial power, they are avoiding childbirth and children altogether because they don't want to be trapped in these types of unequal relationships, where they do the majority of the work, with little benefit to themselves. is there anything else that a man brings to the table in a heterosexual relationship?…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/26 04:05 AM
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No, you're right. The person doing the coercing gets to decide what coercion is. The police also investigated themselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 08:32 PM
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I also think that the person on the receiving end doesn't get to declare it coercive unilaterally neither, because naturally, the accused doesn't get to decide whether or not they are guilty or not, but the accuser doesn't get to decide neither imo, if my argument makes sense. Your comparisons just get worse and worse. So we aren't responsible for our behavior? So whatever we want, goes, and no consideration should be given to the person that is on the receiving end of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 08:30 PM
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No means no. "No" doesn't mean "wear the other person down until they give in and say 'yes'". Dating involves a lot of uncertainty, and people are allowed to express interest, make their case, and try to persuade someone This isn't some true crime or philosophical debate where two opposing sides are trying to persuade a 3rd party. This is a relationship we are talking about, where people can be as discriminatory as they want. They're the one that has date the person, not you. If they don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 07:36 PM
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Men also like doing the dishes and watching the kids, which is why they try to do none of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 12:14 PM
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Women have power over men but can't seem to make them do the dishes or watch the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 11:17 AM
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significant majority of child abuse Yes, because women are around children significantly more. Despite their constant proximity to children, women only commit about 5% more incidents of child abuse than men. What are men's excuses, considering that they ignore and neglect children as much as possible and still commit roughly half the incidents of child abuse? Men will do their victory lap over the one time they aren't the most likely perpetrator. baby killing It's hard for men to be responsible …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 10:12 AM
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Yes. When men commit 4% to 9% of all family annihilations and 10% to 20% of violent crimes in general, then we will call men wonderful. Until then, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 08:26 AM
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What does that have to do with anything, other than to derail the conversation at hand? On the rare occasions a woman does commit 4% to 9% of the incidents, there's also mitigating circumstances, like the fact that she was on 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication, that aren't present in men's cases. Wow, it's almost as if these are separate cases that have almost nothing in common and shouldn't be compared as if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 08:14 AM
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double standards What exactly is the double standard here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 08:00 AM
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It couldn't possibly have something to do with the fact that men comprise of 91% to 95% of family annihilators, could it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 07:03 AM
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Every time men commit a violent crime due to mental health issue, all I hear is people saying something along the lines of “typical men”. I don’t think we should, but the double standard here is absurd You don't know what a mental illness is, nor do you know what a double standard is, but you'll comment as if you do. That's what happens when men are uneducated but still have the arrogance to think they know better than those who are educated. Men who commit crimes because of their malignant narc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 06:20 AM
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It makes me wonder whether male dating success is much more of a numbers game than people want to admit. No. It is not a numbers game. This is probably the stupidest idea proposed by Red Pill men. If that was the case, then the men who swipe right on everyone and hit on every woman in a 5-block radius would be successful. That's not the case. They get rejected constantly. They only get success when they get more picky. Man A approaches/flirts with 5 women in a year and succeeds with 2. Man B app…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 05:09 AM
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Most violent murderers and rapists have some form of mental illness. They suffer from a personality disorder. A personality disorder doesn't prevent them from knowing the difference between right and wrong. They still know the difference between right and wrong at the time of the act. They don't care that raping and murdering is wrong, which is why they are morally culpable. Whereas Linsday Clancy was suffering from post-partum depression after giving birth to 3 children and was on 12 to 13 diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 04:51 AM
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Men, who comprise of 91% to 95% of family annihilators, go through much less, don't give birth to 3 children and aren't on 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication, and still murder their wives and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 04:27 AM
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On the one hand, incels should be treated as terrorists Yes, because of their extreme callousness and entitlement, not their loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 05:26 PM
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So on the rare occasion that women outnumber men in being the perpetrator of certain types of crime, women commit only 5% more incidents of child abuse than men? You'd think the way men go on about it, I'd be like a 90%-10% split, not a margin of 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 05:03 PM
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Because it's almost as if loneliness doesn't affect judgment the way 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medications do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:17 PM
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Funny how it never works that way. Maybe because women don't commit violent crimes on the same scale as men, despite being systematically oppressed by the patriarchy, being given endless chores with a baby or 5 to care for, while being barred from higher education for thousands of years. Men are free from the above burdens but commit about 90% of violent crimes. So what's men's excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:13 PM
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Is neglect not abuse? Just because men weren't present for the abuse, because they abandoned their children, doesn't make them any less complicit. It's like men celebrating how they don't murder children via abortion. Well, yeah. Men don't carry the baby. They can just leave and abandon the mother and child whenever they get tired of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:08 PM
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Elliot Rodgers was on one medication: Xanax and probably didn't give birth about 3 times ever in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:03 PM
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Women would invent a couple things if men were systematically hamstrung by the patriarchy, given endless household chores, a baby or 5 to care for and barred from higher education like women were for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 03:58 PM
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Ok, so no. These school shooters didn't give birth 3 times, nor were they on 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication at the time of the incident. How are these school shooters relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 03:52 PM
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Did these school shooters also give birth to 3 kids, while on a cocktail of 12 to 13 different types of psychiatric medication?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 03:34 PM
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Was he on 12 to 13 different psychiatric medications?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 03:27 PM
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The bear kills out of necessity, not out of sport. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:56 PM
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No, it isn't always a man No, it isn't always a man. Just only about 80% to 90% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:53 PM
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Women commit roughly 10% to 20% of all violent crimes, whereas men commit roughly 80% to 90%. When is it ever a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:50 PM
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Men were taking ordinary photographs of real women and using them to manufacture sexualized images without those women's consent. Your mother didn't have to make porn Women pick the bear because they are less likely to sexually assault women or use AI to make porn from ordinary photographs than men are. Also because they resemble dogs being round, furry and super cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:45 PM
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IT'S ABOUT THE 12 TO 13 DIFFERENT PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATIONS MAYBE?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:31 PM
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It's almost as if things aren't always black and white and are varying degrees of gray.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:21 PM
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What business is it of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 02:06 PM
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Because childcare is so fun and something women hog, not unpaid drudgery men avoid at all costs, while they do everything but pay attention to the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 12:29 PM
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"MEN ARE RAISED BY WOMEN” Who else would they be raised by? Men? Who do as little childcare as possible before 27% of them abandon the children altogether after divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 12:24 PM
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Then men should stay in their sad, empty apartments with a camp chair, a mattress on the floor and the TV too high, with no extra utensils and nowhere to sit and stop trying to intrude on women's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 09:10 AM
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You're seriously going to tell a grieving mother that her son taking her own life is trivial and self-inflicted? Yes, if the cause of his loneliness is due to his laziness and lack of initiative, not to mention the entitlement that expects women to take initiative and take on the unpaid work to build men's social support networks for them on men's behalf, because men are too incompetent to do so. women are expected to do is to listen and understand, not even do anything The fact that you equate …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 08:58 AM
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Yes, the gender that commits the fewest violent crimes needs to be told not to be toxic as fuck and hateful towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 07:33 AM
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You don't understand men's issues. Just because men's issues are trivial and self-inflicted doesn't somehow imply that women don't understand them. Women understand men's issues perfectly. They just don't want to be assigned the work that men should be doing in the first place. So men don't do their chores and childcare and they also don't do any of the kinkeeping work needed to build relationships? What do men do, exactly, besides eat 75% of the food?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 07:04 AM
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actually due to men having a much harder time ahead of them to get another relationship while women will have plenty of options at the drop of a hat Yes, because men don't provide any value to women except more unpaid work to do, as evidenced by the fact that men are discarded because women don't want menchildren as partners. Women have value because of all the unpaid work they do, that men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 06:54 AM
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No. That they do as little work as possible to the point that a sole female breadwinner has to work to bring home all the income and still do half his work of the childcare and chores because he won't do it. She can't exactly put up her feet like a sole male breadwinner who does as little childcare and chores as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 06:26 AM
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Yeah, you're right. Because men being lazy and entitled in wanting children but doing none of the work is exactly the same as women refusing to do the work that's dumped on them by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 05:32 AM
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SAHDs do about 10.5 hours of childcare and chores per week, while SAHMs do about 25.2 hours of childcare and chores per week. SAHDs only do 40% of the work of SAHMs. They should only get 40% of the alimony of a SAHM. Why the hell should a SAHD get 100% alimony for doing 40% of the work? Sounds like DEI for lazy douchebag men who have 42.7 hours of leisure time, which is the highest of all the demographics. If men feel entitled to more alimony, they need to do more work and not leave it for sole …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 05:09 AM
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Stop lumping in men and women together as if their issues are the same. They aren't. Stop assigning extra work for women to do. they tend to put the emotional regulation on their partner only more often than women, who tend to have more community around them. Gee, l wonder how that happened? It couldn't possibly be that women do all the kinkeeping work where they provide social support by planning parties, remembering anniversaries and reaching out to provide love and support by listening and be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:53 AM
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You: Jesus, the "women are always the mostetest oppresedest victims evvaaarrr" victimhood complex is strong. Also you: But the point is, adult women still receive tons more help than adult males facing the same problems ever would. Men are always the mostetest oppresedest victims evvaaarrr. And you think boys don't suffer just as much from having a complete lack of male authority figures and role models in their lives Yeah, and whose fault is that? Men are transactional douchebags that don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 08:15 PM
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Wow. I'm convinced. Solid argument there. I retract my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:41 PM
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I think people investigating fertility rates Birth rates are dropping because men make horrible fathers who do as little childcare as possible, that is, if they don't abandon their children altogether. Women are no longer forced to birth children and do all the work for little benefit in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:55 PM
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If men are expected to change with the world, it stands to reason that women should too. When the hell have men ever changed? Women have taken over 50% of the pressure of being the breadwinner, while men are still lazy and entitled in leaving the majority of chores and childcare to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:43 PM
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Well, l held the door for you. Reward me with oral sex or else you're a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:34 PM
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hold doors ... or that men are inherently immature and should therefore always date younger women I don’t respect men who lump together something as simple as holding a door with relationships that exploit the power imbalance between an older party and younger party. How the hell does a basic courtesy, such as holding a door, have any remote connection to age-gap relationships? Unless it's another stupid comparison men like to make around here. "Hurr durr, well l held the door open for you. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:32 PM
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Feminazis are too busy organizing fundraisers and creating awareness of feminist issues to sabotage men's causes. Men don't care about other men. That's why nothing gets done for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:38 AM
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But when a man becomes homeless, he is also in the need. So why is he turned away from homeless shelters? Homeless shelters are also run by donations and volunteers. Women put in the leg work to run women's shelters because women care about other women. Men don't want to put in the leg work in to help other men because men don't care about other men. That's why men don't have men's shelters. It's like kinkeeping. Women put the work in to keep in touch, plan brunches and dinners and have mich big…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 07:33 AM
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Are we comparing men to criminals? No argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 03:00 AM
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Excuses, excuses. Yes, all men are bodybuilders, BMI is bullshit. They also measured the neck size of men as well. Guess what? They're obese as hell. Like men carry muscle around their necks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 01:53 AM
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our worth is based on how many different women you’ve fucked I don't get it. Men's worth is based on how many women they've managed to disappoint sexually? Weird flex, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 01:23 AM
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This article only examines obesity and doesn't say anything about overweight people, who are still fat, but just slightly less so. Of course, men only seem slightly less fat when you don't count 40% of the population. It's hilarious how men's response to data outlining how overweight and obese they are, is never to deny how fat they are. It's always "Wimmen are fat too!" Or "Wimmen are also violent too!" As if women also being fat somehow makes men thinner. Men, never taking responsibility and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 01:17 AM
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That's the last thing we want to see, considering that he's already jerking off in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 12:44 AM
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woman gets hurt physically and or emotionally by a known terrible guy that she knows the history of and everyone else does too it is considered in bad taste Why is the known terrible guy dating in the first place? Doesn't the known terrible guy, who knows he's a terrible guy, have a responsibility to refrain from dating? Or are men so entitled and lacking in empathy that they must date and are somehow blameless for being a terrible person, while every woman should be able to be clairvoyant mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 11:39 PM
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why would a woman who’s always moaning she cant get no good man, prefer food to getting slim? Considering that 77% of men in the US are obese and overweight, compared to 69% of women, I'd say men are much more qualified to answer this question than women are. Why do men still prefer food, despite their collective inability to see their own penis since 2007?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 04:10 PM
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You can criticize things that exist I agree. not things you just imagine up. Yeah, like men's value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:46 PM
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But considering so many of these women complain they’re having a hard time dating genuine men, perhaps more women “have to” lower their standards in superficial categories like height. No. Women don't. They'll just stay single rather than lower their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:33 PM
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The idea that fit men should date fat women is just incel rhetoric for women, but because the mods of this sub are misandrist When the hell does this ever happen beyond obese and overweight men's delusions? Obese and overweight men in the US outnumber women by a margin of 18 million. That's not a small number. It's much more likely that a woman has to settle for an obese slob that doesn't do any household chores and childcare, than the other way around. Don't men have agency? Or are the beer and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:26 PM
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Good for you? You want a cookie. How did you know she didn't also have an eventful weekend, in between posting a thread? I swear, men can't fall over themselves to post their stats, brag about their resume or what they did this weekend, when literally nobody asked. No one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:06 PM
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And yet you cared enough to reply. Do you know what l do when l don't like threads? I just scroll past them. This thing you just wrote, only exists in your head, seek help. The last thing l would do if l don't like something, is write a 3 paragraph post whining about it. When guys claim this, they mean less picky compared to women. Yes, we know. That's her point. Men have to be less picky because they provide no value to women at all. They have to take what they can get or end up with no one at …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:05 PM
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It is not about looks per ce The only thing that matters is looks. Men talk about women's appearances like we aren't surrounded by 18 million more obese and overweight men than women. Until these 18 million portly fellows go on a diet, men have no call to demand fit and attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 10:28 AM
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Wow. Women approach men and are rewarded with disappointing sex where they have a 1 in 10 chance of having an orgasm?! Sign us up, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 07:23 AM
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No. Women shouldn't, because men don't provide any value to women's lives. A woman approaching a man is the equivalent of a PS5 searching for a home. Why do men assume that they provide value to a women's lives the same way that women provide value to men's lives? Men don't provide any value to women's lives. If they did, then women would fall over themselves to approach men. Men don't provide any value to women's lives. If they did, then women wouldn't be responsible for initiating 70% divorces…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 05:07 AM
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Women don't get a free pass because they are a mother. Except they kinda do. They sacrificed their careers and prime earning years to care for young children and support the working partner. If that sacrifice is worth nothing, then men are welcome to come home in the middle of the day to do their fair share of childcare and free the wife up to go to her own full-time jobs. Was she supposed to do all the childcare and hold down her own full-time job?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:51 PM
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Cheating, regardless of how a court sees it, will always factor in. If the partner cheated, they deserve NOTHING. How does the wife cheating on the husband negate the years of her work as a SAHM? Is her career sacrifice somehow seen as less of a sacrifice if she cheated? Children should receive support, again, unless its proven they are a product of infidelity, then the support needs to come from the affair partner. How is child support germane to the topic at hand? Child support is based on cus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:41 PM
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So, at the one end you have biological urges and societal pressures to conform, Societal pressures? You mean the societal pressure not to rape women? So, a growing number of men are caught in a dilemma without being offered healthy solutions. And then they become easy targets for radicalization, which in turn, has negative results for societal stability (and negative effects on freedom for women, as seen in the overturn of Roe vs. Wade). Oh. Well, when you put it that way, they are not to blame.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:07 PM
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22% of working age women NOT working a job sufficient to take care of themselves is pretty substantial. The majority of these women are SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 02:37 PM
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In what way? OP tried to equate intimate platonic relationships with intimate age-gap relationships. Just because she described an intimate act in her post doesn't invalidate her argument at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:11 PM
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older man dating younger woman is just another manifestation of our misandrist culture trying to further constrain men's power and leverage on the sexual market place Young women don't want old, sagging balls. Stop trying to insist that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 12:02 PM
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after everything you have said where would you draw the line for agency Men can't pretend to care about women's agency when the only thing that prevents men from dating younger is the law. the issue here is people try to shame other people for whatever they see as wrong and that ranges from abortion to age gap relationships Well, no. Men support age-gap relationships and make excuses for their exploitation of women. Women, on the other hand, shame old women for dating young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:40 AM
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Yeah, but intimate age-gap relationships aren't platonic. Why are you trying to draw a parallel as if they are? Your logic sucks here. Some platonic relationships are beneficial. Yes, and? Of what bearing does a beneficial platonic relationship have on an intimate age-gap relationship, other than to rationalize men's exploitation of women by making a ridiculous comparison of intimate age gap relationships with platonic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:07 AM
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Men should refuse to date women until women agree to pay for half the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 09:14 PM
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Ladies, maybe try supporting the men around you? Why is this a responsibility of women? Women are already responsible for themselves and other women through the kinkeeping work women do and men don't. Maybe lecture the men first? Women seem to understand the assignment. Men do the least work and are still trying to tack on more work for women, while providing as little support to others as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:40 PM
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Firemen, Police, Soldiers, rescue workers and security Because a few men are firemen, police etc. somehow, their accomplishments are applicable to all men? Last time l checked, women don't need to point to the chores and childcare of some other woman as evidence that they did something. Because men don't provide any value, they need to steal the accomplishments of some other guy to pass off as their own to pretend they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:37 PM
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Their social standing, their access to their jobs, their connections to what few friends they consider worth fighting for, the roof over their head be it via renting or homeownership, the list goes on. Ok, so pretty much intangible and abstract concepts that don't require any actual work, as opposed to say, chores, household and childcare. So men protect nothing. Great. Thanks for clearing that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:28 PM
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both parties of the couples are benefiting from No. They don't. Stop assuming that women equally benefit from dates. What do women benefit from? Disappointing sex from men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:01 PM
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Hey, that's great. Men today do twice as much as their forefathers. Except, 2 x 0 is still 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:50 PM
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Because equality in everything as feminista wanted means also equality in dating Equality means nothing if men aren't going to hold up their end of the bargain. 50/50 doesn't just mean finances. It also involves doing half of the childcare and chores around the house. Men still don't do their fair share around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:48 PM
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And this is where all the hypergamy shit becomes especially funny. If your entire material existence depends on the man you marry, of fucking course his income and status become incredibly important selection criteria. Nah, give me the bum who has no job and doesn't do any chores and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:41 PM
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feminists but they still want men to pay for dates( father than splitting or sharing or willing to pay the Full date Stop assuming that men do household chores and childcare. Men don't do any of this. That's why they have to pay. Are women supposed to approach men, pay for dates and do all the chores and childcare in the relationship? So what are men responsible for? Until men start pulling their weight in the relationship, they have to pay for dates. want them to pay everything in the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 07:39 PM
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For me, being a man means having enough strength to protect without controlling Men don't protect anything. Seriously, what do men protect besides their couches and their PS5s? Are men fighting lions and tigers all day everyday? No, men aren't. But they will pretend they do. The value men claim they provide is always some intangible and abstract concept that has no practical benefit in reality to hide the fact that men provide no value at all to women. Tell you what, next time a man fights off a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:46 PM
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I’m in the UK and fit So? I'm also fit too. Do we get cookies? And I agree with you about men taking charge of their own health too. They don't. That's the problem. If they did, women wouldn't be surrounded by 18 million more overweight and obese men. It's not men being surrounded by an extra 18 million overweight and obese women, is it? Good quality men want beautifully feminine slender graceful swans These 18 million men need to start exercising before men start demanding anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:45 AM
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Men need to clean up their own yard before demanding fit and beautiful women. 77% of men are overweight or obese. With men being roughly 49.5% of the population, that means there are 18 million more overweight and obese men waddling around than there are women. Get that down to 69%, like the women and start taking care of your skin like women do, then we can talk. The gender that is more likely, on average, to be fat and unkempt shouldn't be making any demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 08:22 AM
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That gap has grown in 2020: As of October, 55% of men say they are very satisfied with this aspect of their relationship, compared with 38% of women. So 55% of men are happy with the arrangement where they work, but do very little at home and only 38% of women are happy with this arrangement? Also, don't just post links and expect me to slog through them to do the work for you. Post the numbers, break the numbers down (paid work, leisure time, chores and childcare, if applicable) and do the anal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:53 AM
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However? the top-liked comments were about how she was “ugly” and “post-wall”. How ”the wall hit her so hard”, getting over 500 likes and people commenting in detail how ugly they found her. Yes, men are awful because men are awful and aggressive in general. That's why no wants to date them or have anything to do with them at all. Because they provide no value to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:21 AM
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His whole argument is tantamount to "Men can't domestically enslave women anymore and I'm mad about it!"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:15 AM
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All your fake anecdotes disproven by statistics and research. If all men actually did the work at home, instead of pretending they do, the statistics would reflect that. What do the statistics say? Men are lazy as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:12 AM
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No woman wants a SAHD that only does about 10.5 hours worth of chores and childcare per week, while spending 47.2 hours on the couch playing video games. No woman wants to work all week and still have to do 1.2 hours more hours of chores than her lazy SAHDouchebag who doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:05 AM
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Men are violent because we have statistics proving that men commit about 90% of violent crimes. While women are violent... because men say so, to diffuse responsibility and divert attention away from their own criminality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:00 AM
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How the hell does men being lazy and refusing to look for better partners somehow mean that women are worse for not wanting a bum that only provides 50% and does nothing else? The only people that lose out in this scenario are lazy, loser men. Good. They deserve nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:28 AM
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Yeah, but when men are the breadwinners, women pull their weight around the house by doing 25.2 hours of childcare and chores per week. When the genders are reversed, SAHDs only do about 10.5 hours of chores and childcare per week, while spending 47.2 hours per week ignoring their children. then not want any of the responsibility that comes with it Men can't be SAHDs and then do about 40% of the work of a SAHMs. Who's avoiding responsibility now? Accept the fact that you might have to be the pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:17 AM
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Women cook and clean everyday, in addition to their full-time jobs. Only they don't use yesterday's chores as an excuse to get out of today's chores, like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:05 AM
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Women are less strong than men, better nurturers, more in touch with their feelings (even if it causes them to make emotional decisions sometimes), etc. That's a coincidence. Women just happen to be objectively better at the time-consuming tasks and duties that need to be done everyday, or else we starve and live in a garbage dump. Men are stronger and look to protect, usually more logical, think longer picture over short term While men just happen to be objectively better at tasks that happen o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:00 AM
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Leave the Rottweilers alone! They're super cute, furry, so cuddly and provide real protection to women. They also don't harass women for disappointing sex and don't use their protection to get out of doing their chores and childcare. Rottweilers can't do chores as they lack opposable thumbs. What's the men's excuse for being lazy and entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:59 AM
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I still think modern women have an entitled "men owe us everything for being men" You have that backwards. It's men that have a lazy and entitled attitude, where they work a job that only brings in half the family income and do as little childcare or household chores as possible. Women have to work their own full-time jobs to bring in the other half of the family income and do 90% of the household chores and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:51 AM
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that's someone else's credit you don't deserve, same way this logic works. Really? Like how men keep men keep mentioning all these archeological projects they had nothing to do with, to take credit for them? Because they don't actually provide any value to women at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:48 AM
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Yeah. All wrong. But what do we expect from men who do absolutely no research, but still have the arrogance to think they're right? The only ones who brought reliable and consistent calories for the tribe were the gatherers, mostly women, who foraged for nuts and berries, accounting for 60-80% of the tribe's diet and nutrition. Men contributed smaller, less reliable share of calories through big-game hunting. You could fight a mammoth all day and still not win. So now the camp is out of the calo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:41 AM
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Women also work and pay taxes. But the difference is that women don't use that as an excuse to avoid doing anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:29 AM
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But women also cooked meals back then. Can all women stop cooking meals now because a bunch of women cooked meals back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:28 AM
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a socity and turning gender attitudes against each other, should stop I'm pretty sure it's the fact that men don’t do their chores or do any childcare and have to invoke ancient archeological projects to steal credit to hide the fact that they don't provide anything to women, is the reason for the divide between men and women. All because men are too lazy and entitled to wash a dish and cook a meal once in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:25 AM
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So some men built a bridge and fought off a bear in the last century, therefore all men should be able to claim credit as if they did it themselves, while they do nothing on the couch and ignore their children. By that logic, my neighbor Sandra cooked dinner for her husband last night. Women don't need to cook tonight at all because they should all be able to claim Sandra's work as their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:11 AM
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Another stupid comparison. Are men still largely fighting off lions and tigers and bears? No. Are women going through childbirth and doing the majority of childcare? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:05 AM
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half the people on the planet didn't matter or their contributions are pointless now Men's contributions don't matter because they don't do anything now. Are you fighting off bears currently? No. Are you doing chores and childcare? Also no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:03 AM
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If a rottweiler saved you from being bit by another rottweiler would you have them both put down because "uhh yeah but what did you save me from?.... another rottweiler?... i rest my case.". What a stupid comparison. So rottweilers also use their "protection" to get out of doing chores and childcare? Are men also fighting off lions and tigers everyday? No? So why are men pretending like they are? The reason why men say they are providers, despite the fact that only 22% are true sole male breadwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 03:01 AM
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Age is irrelevant to them Stop telling women what they want and don't want. You know nothing about what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:15 PM
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So men are entitled to thin and beautiful women despite the fact that 77% of men in the US are overweight or obese but women have to settle for the overweight or obese slob?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:01 PM
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Having children with the wrong man is like a fate worst than death.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:58 PM
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Many women would appreciate him, but they largely still expect him to be the main, Only 22% of relationships consist of a sole male breadwinner, which means 78% of relationships aren't a sole male breadwinner. equal breadwinner There's no such thing as an equal breadwinner. You're either egalitarian or there's a breadwinner. Still expecting him to pay for stuff more often. Yes, if a man is a sole male breadwinner, obviously yes because he does nothing at home. Paying for everything is the litera…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:52 PM
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Women don't want to have children anymore because men suck at being fathers. Men do the least childcare, that is, if they aren't the 27% of men that just abandon their children outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:42 PM
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Men and women have the same right to have sex. But only women carry the baby. Why are men trying to pretend they also carry the baby? not consent to the sex part if they get raped, and still be held liable for the resulting child. So sometimes they didn't even have that choice. This is an extremely rare edge case that is only applicable in less than 1% of unintended pregnancies. Why are you trying to apply it to the 99% that don't involve it? The choice on whether that results in a baby is solel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:47 PM
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Then, in a society where safe legal abortions are available to women, why shouldn't the benefits of that side effect not be extended to men? Your logic sucks here. The right to abortion based on bodily autonomy only legally entails that if men were to get pregnant, they could also get safe access to abortion. But just because men don't need abortions, because they don't carry the baby, doesn't mean you can substitute another obligation in its place. One has nothing to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:35 PM
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if you are given no choice you should at least not be held responsible for a choice that wasn't yours How exactly did that sperm get up her uterus? Did she steal it by gunpoint? Ejaculation is always a conscious and deliberate act. Just because men often choose poorly, doesn't necessarily mean they didn't get a choice. That's just basic autonomy. Men give up their autonomy by ejaculating inside a woman. Men could, you know, not ejaculate in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:28 PM
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Just so you know, you typed this on a website made by men, with a device invented and made by men, all on an infrastructure ran by men. Wow so lazy. Value so negative. So did you do any of the above? No? Then why are you trying to claim credit as if you did?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:19 PM
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Women are responsible 5-9% of the time, as men are 91-95% responsible for family annihilation. Men, have you considered killing fewer of your families?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 11:49 AM
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providing Neither are they providing when only 22% of relationships are sole male breadwinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 10:17 AM
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do some of you communicate it indirectly instead of simply telling him what the problem is? Women, have you tried communicating 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 08:30 AM
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They also can't seem to articulate what they provide, which is nothing. Less than nothing, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 08:21 AM
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Women have innate value because of the unpaid work they do, in addition to their lack of entitlement and lack of criminality. Men have no value because they are unwilling to do unpaid work, due to their laziness and entitlement. They actually have negative value, because all they provide women is more chores to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:36 AM
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biological tendencies women have to seek a provider The fact that 78% of women have full-time jobs proves that this is a lie. No woman wants a leech who plays 47.2 hours of video games per week and does no chores nor childcare. Poor men are more likely to be virgins of all simply because it’s way harder than any other group. This tracks though. They generally provide no value to women and are more likely to perform poorly in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:16 AM
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Yall are kind of acting like any mental labor that's not tied to your benefit is super hard and overwhelming. Like damn, yall good? That's rich, coming from the demographic that's been statistically proven to do the least amount of kinkeeping, childcare, volunteer work and eldercare. Parents take care of children Women take care of children. Men try to get away with doing the least amount of childcare possible. SAHDs spend 7 times the amount of hours on leisure time than than childcare, even whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 06:06 AM
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A men's problem for men to solve. Bunch of chore diggers who won't do their own chores or manage their own social support networks, expect women to magically drop in the 101st Careborne and complain when women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:15 AM
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What the hell is up with old men overrating themselves? Young women want to look at sagging balls as much as young men want to look at sagging breasts. Men want to date the youngest age legally possible to exploit her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 04:39 AM
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You're familiar with the phrase "If I don't do it, it won't get done" right? That's not the reason. What we are saying is to stop using this as an excuse to swipe right on everyone and hit on every woman in a 5-block radius.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:06 AM
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Like for my platonic girlfriends I will plan scenic picnics and pack the lunches and drive them and they don’t have to do anything besides show up Men don't do any unpaid work for anyone, then are surprised when nobody wants to do any unpaid work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 03:00 AM
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But but but female incels are just as bad, because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:55 AM
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She's the problem because she refuses to endure disappointing sex because men suck at pleasuring women. It's her fault, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:54 AM
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Yet in America a guy who's decent and would never commit atrocities like this can't even date This is baseline basic human decency we should expect from everyone. Do you want a cookie? can't even date It does not entitle you to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:53 AM
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less likely to have car accidents Women are better drivers than men and don't take unnecessary risks. less likely to die on the job Men refuse to get education because it's unpaid work. They also are more likely to vote Republican, who gut OSHA regulations. Seems like a self-inflicted problem. and less likely to die of virtually every single disease and cancer in the book than men are. Because they go to the doctor and get help, instead of doing nothing. Women thrive because they do the work. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:47 AM
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Male loneliness is certainly caused by women. Absolutely. But can you blame women considering that men are a net drain on women's lives because they don't provide any value to women, except more chores to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:37 AM
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Male loneliness is certainly caused by women. Absolutely. But can we blame women when men are a net drain on women because they provide no value to women's lives except more chores to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:32 AM
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Because it's just a ploy to talk shit about women instead of actually looking at the problems. While also putting the responsibility on women to fix men's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:29 AM
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Perhaps the most ignorant comment here. discrepancies and problems in social scenarios today. What discrepancies are there? The only thing l can think of is how men can't trap a woman into domestic slavery because women can have jobs and an education and survive on their own. articles and surveys are self reports and not categorical of the real thing. How the hell else are we going to gather information? Are we going to employ drones that record people's interactions? The truth is nobody really …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 02:27 AM
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But women getting better grades for the same performance in school Name one instance that ever happened? Off the top of my head, men in Afghanistan threatened women if they went to school. There was an incident in Japan with medical entrance exam where they scored women lower than women because women were scoring too high. Japan is one of the most sexist societies on Earth. Despite all the advantages men have in Japan, they still sucked at the entrance exam. then getting extra points when applyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:47 AM
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Influence serves to worsen lives for many men and feminists are mainly women. Men make their own lives harder by being lazy and entitled. Did feminism hand out degrees and volunteer credit like candy to women, while deliberately skipping the men? No. Women got off their asses, did the coursework and earned their degrees. All feminism did was remove the barriers put in place by men, reinforced by other men, to hamstring women for the past thousand years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:36 AM
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Women don't need men's help, considering that women's social networks are larger than average than men's. They don't need men to tell them to shower more, volunteer and take initiative to make plans with friends. Women already know how to act like human beings. considering how many women make a big show out of deliberately cutting men out of their lives. Yes, because men don't provide any value to women. Men actually create negative value for women, because all they provide is more chores to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:26 AM
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"Could" meaning they theoretically could. They just don't want to, because it's unpaid work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:21 AM
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Since many mens only emotional outlet/support tends to be women Gee, l wonder how that happens. Maybe it's because men refuse to be support systems for both men or women, because it's unpaid work and men are too selfish and self-centered to put someone else's needs ahead of their own and listen, instead of talking all the time. Men don't want to be someone's social support because men are too selfish to put the work in? Then men don't get any social support. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:19 AM
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depower men Like how women can't be forced to be domestic slaves for men anymore? Oh, the horror. Now men have to actually do their own chores and sometimes watch their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 01:12 AM
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Not if your opponent has a 95% of winning and does not care if you win either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 12:42 PM
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The Borderliner and the Sociopath. A match made in hell. You should put your money where your mouth is and date him. Enjoy!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:13 AM
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man that doesnt do chores but gives you money? Uh, because that's pretty much the dynamic of every marriage ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 11:04 AM
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So you would date him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:59 AM
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According to game theory, men should cheat. It's in their best interests, best illustrated in the Tragedy of the Commons. Let's pretend that we are sitting at a concert and the guy in front of me stands up to get a better view. If l were to remain seated, then l lose out, l paid a ticket but l don't get to see. So l stand up. Then the guy behind me stands up and so on and so forth. The only people who lose are the people who remain seated. If men have no duty of loyalty to each other, and cannot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:58 AM
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Women now don’t want a super handsome man, they don’t want somebody taking the attention off how pretty they are Stop telling women what they don't want. You know nothing about what a woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:38 AM
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If he was bisexual and you were also bisexual, would you date him? No, neither would l.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:35 AM
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Or I can be open about what I am No. You are going to lie. It's in your best interest to lie. Because if you told the truth, everyone would run.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:29 AM
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I'm not saying it's an excuse, I'm saying it's different. Then you date the sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:23 AM
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Men are already shiftless bums. Now they're trying to get out of the one responsibility they have by convincing women to approach, that they are doing a women a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:03 AM
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Absolutely not. They already don't do their chores, household duties and watch their own kids. On top of that, men are stingy bums who don't provide anything. By provide, I mean to really provide, not the 78% men stealing the credit of what only 22% of men do. Have 78% of women ever had to exaggerate the contributions coming from 22% of the women? If every encounter only had the potential to end in sex Were you actually trying to entice women to date men by using sex? 65% of heterosexual women r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:48 AM
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That's a copout. The reason why we are here is because we can be brutally honest with each other and tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. Him admitting that he is a diagnosed sociopath doesn't insulate him from my brutal honesty, nor does it put the consequences of his actions above reproach. If he is an ethical sociopath, then he should take it upon himself to remove himself from the dating pool because whatever scant affection he can provide to a woman's genuine affe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:32 AM
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Men care more about validation than orgasms. Really? Is that why 95% of heterosexual men reported orgasming every time, while only 65% of heterosexual women did? Yes, it's clearly about the validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:19 AM
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provide Only 22% of men are sole male breadwinners. If you want to keep your thumb on the scale and somehow magically apply that to all men, you need to get your numbers up. 78% of men shouldn't have to steal the valor of something only 22% of men do. protect Look at all that protection men are providing from the couch. The only thing men protect is their PS5 from gathering dust, that is, if they don't chicken out like that guy in Colombia. Men must approach and pay Yeah, the one time men actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:08 AM
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What a stupid answer. We all know that men provide nothing to women except more chores to do. If men couldn't also exploit women for disappointing sex, they would ignore us completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:57 AM
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Yeah, but why do you want romantic affection? And why do you feel entitled to it, despite the fact that whatever affection you provide her is hollow, as you are a diagnosed sociopath. It will always be a net loss for her, when her efforts would be better spent on a guy who is capable of returning the sentiment. Every women who dates you is going to be cheated. She's pretty much working for free. Why do you feel entitled to that, when you won't even work for free yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:53 AM
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Yes. Men are leeches trying to exploit women at every turn, while providing nothing in return. Which is why we have to treat men the exact same way they treat women. It's only fair. Why the hell would women waste time getting to know the man, when men couldn't care less about the women, aside from all he can extract from her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:44 AM
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If only 65% of heterosexual men reported having orgasms every time they had sex, there would be no point in men dating women. So what's the point of women dating men now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:38 AM
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Too much effort. It's just easier for the men to cum and go and not care about women's pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:55 AM
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And if women cared just a bit about men's problems, men would reciprocate. Yeah, that's why the patriarchy happened for thousands of years, because men cared so much about women's problems. Oh no, wait. They enslaved them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:54 AM
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she chose to receive him without birth control. False equivalence. Women don't get men pregnant, men get women pregnant. But of course, you have to frame your argument as if women do get men pregnant, because it doesn't work, otherwise. Forced penetration is rare. About 99% of cases of baby trapped men simply ejaculating where they weren't supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:46 AM
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Well, yeah. You generally need to eat everyday or else you die and women cook 9 meals to men's 4 meals. What a coincidence. Women get assigned the time-consuming chores that need to be done everyday, while all men need to pretend like they're fixing roofs for an hour per night because they don't do anything. The only thing men provide women is more chores to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:38 AM
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or are you just conveniently overlooking that men perform more paid labor because as many modern feminists That's interesting. Because women work fewer hours, it goes without saying that they should do more unpaid work to make up for it, right? That should also go for men, because fair is fair. Men who work fewer hours should do more unpaid chores and childcare. Wrong. Guess what? Men who worked 2 fewer hours also do 3.4 fewer hours of chores and childcare. Women who work 3.1 fewer hours of paid…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 02:22 AM
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being baby trapped is trivial but a guy knocking you up and bouncing isn't? Yes. Women have sperm ejaculated into their uteruses by men without their knowledge or permission. That's a tiny bit different than men being baby trapped because they neglected to use birth control. All men need to avoid being baby trapped is to be more careful with where his sperm ends up. Women can only wish that was all they needed to avoid pregnancy. is it trivial to unknowingly raise another man's child with a chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:41 PM
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indicating that men log lesser hours because they are more efficient They don't log fewer hours because they are efficient. They log fewer hours because they cut corners or don't do them at all. Yes, men may spend less time doing the dishes but the dishes are still greasy. all of the data is self reported when we have a bout a half dozen psychological biases against men (including internalizable ones) So the women are lying by overestimating their work hours? Are men also lying by underreporting…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:51 PM
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You're not proving anything until you address the 8 (i think I can bump it up to ten now) fallacies in the data What statistical fallacies? This were self-reports from diaries taken 24 hours after they performed their duties. What part of the data is wrong? You and Look are the first people on Reddit where I actually skip paragraphs of your posts, because I just see that it's about the data, not about the fallacies in the data, and there is no point. You skip paragraphs because you have no respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:54 PM
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You will blame everyone and everything except men for being lazy and entitled SAHDouchebags. The average SAHM works about 24.6 hours per week. The average SAHD works about 10.1 hours. First, it's Pew Research that is wrong with their analysis, then it's the Department of Labor Statistics who are wrong with their methodology. Then the women who post this information also are wrong. Then somehow, women aren't allowed to judge lazy and entitled SAHDs if they themselves aren't a sole female breadwin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:18 PM
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When l feel like it and am in the mood, sure. But somedays, I'll get like 10 messages in my inbox in 5 minutes. That's when l know I've kicked the hornet's nest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:42 PM
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What is wrong with people?! I ask myself this all the time when I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:17 PM
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I created her when I fuck her, and thus fulfill her fucked up incest "daddy" fetish like when I make her brown paper Get help for your porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:16 PM
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My unpaid value as a nanny is worth 50k to 150k a year depending on how you calculate hours. Your numbers are wrong. The average SAHM or nanny is worth 100k because she does 24.6 hours of childcare and chores per week. The average SAHD does 10.1 hours of childcare and chores. That means men only work 40% of the hours a woman does. Which means that the work a SAHD is only worth 40k at the most. Why do men think they're entitled to the same pay as a woman who works 15 more hours per week than he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:15 PM
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The ick is an unavoidable moment of disgust, like discovering a skidmark in his underwear or that he's a manchild that sits all night and does nothing. How it is narcissistic to react to a moment of disgust? Would we call men who have the ick with gold diggers narcissistic? No. She has to make a decision as to whether to continue with the relationship or leave it. Women who are single with no children can act upon their moments of disgust and leave the relationship, whereas women who are married…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:36 PM
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keep women down and patriarchy alive Yeah, that's why the patriarchy persisted for thousands of years. It couldn't possibly be because they wanted women as domestic servants. Nah. Some woman said some snarky stuff online
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:14 PM
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l love how the worst case scenario for woman are abusive men and men who make a life-altering decision, like deciding to become parents, and then abandon her. But for the men, the worst that can happen is that she doesn't let him open up, is a gold digger or tries to babytrap him. Men's problem are so trivial. Women wish their greatest problem was simply being careful with where her eggs end up. Men and their first world nothing problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:56 AM
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This is like asking deadbeat dads why they abandoned their families. No one truthful is going to answer this, certainly not the 35% of self-centered, douchebag men who suck at pleasuring women. The men who do pleasure women are going to fall over themselves asking for cookies for doing the bare minimum in caring about their partner's pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:26 AM
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Because your anecdotal evidence doesn't count for anything and is clearly not the reality for most women. If men were as interested in a woman's pleasure as they pretend to be, the number of women reporting orgasms every time should be much higher than 65%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:07 AM
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That's literally all they have. I roast them with statistics and their only comeback is "No, u." Women are addicted to porn. Women commit as many crimes as men. Women don't do their fair share of chores and childcare. Women lack accountability. Both sides. People.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:02 AM
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Yeah, you're right. Children only need care from 9-5, Monday to Friday. During evenings and weekends, children are cryogenically frozen and left in feeding pods.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:24 AM
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Also, in your hypothetical are they completely absolved of all household and child rearing duties? Always leave it to the men to nickel and dime their way out of doing anything at home. Female sole breadwinners aren't similarily lazy douchebags like sole male breadwinners are. Despite working all week to bring 100% of the income, they manage to spend more time on chores than her husband, who doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:18 AM
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That's why so many men are saying 'fuck it' to dating and are quitting Really? Statistics say otherwise. 61% of single men are looking for relationships, while only 38% of single women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:06 AM
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Just because men are transactional, judging by all the unpaid work they don't do, like volunteering, eldercare and organ donation, doesn't mean men can reflexively call women transactional and hope it makes sense. You actually have to prove it first, like l did, with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:01 AM
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But muh McDonald's value meal! Also, have sex with me while you have a 10% chance of getting an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:57 AM
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Letting women pay for themselves on the other hand is a great filtering system So he's a bum that can't afford to date (but will date regardless), while being statistically more likely shirk his fair share of chores, household duties and childcare in whatever situation, whether he is a sole male breadwinner, egalitarian or SAHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:55 AM
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With guys its mostly just looks Which would be fine, if the average man (77% of the US population) wasn't more likely to be obese and overweight than the women (69%). Being shallow is one thing, but demanding thin and beautiful women while being more likely to be a fat slob than the women he's criticizing, is an entirely different issue altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:28 AM
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Why don't you just starve yourself" to a fat person. "You'd be a lot happier if you just stopped eating for a while". What a horrible analogy, comparing a basic need like food to human companionship. If women don't want to give human companionship to men at risk of becoming an unpaid slave to them while holding down their own full-time jobs, they're the jerks denying food to the starving fat man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:16 AM
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Yes, of course. Because relationships end after the first date and nothing further happens after that. So you're asking us to disregard 95% of the relationship and focus on the scant 5% where men purportedly do more, which constitutes as some sort of injustice towards men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:06 AM
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Picking and choosing which demographic does the fewest work hours to extrapolate to the population at large to skew the statistics? I can do that too. 78.2 percent of unmarried mothers were in the labor force The labor force participation rate for women with children under 18 years of age was 72.4 percent Among mothers, the labor force participation rate for those with children 6 to 17 years old, at 77.0 percent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:58 AM
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At least it's a fair fight. The only fights men pick are against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:43 AM
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'Gender roles for thee but not for me' Pretty much. "50/50 for me, all the chores, household duties and childcare for thee". And if the wrong man takes the initiative he's a creep just from making women mildly uncomfortable in the process of having to reject him Taking initiative doesn't mean brute force hacking where men hit on every single women in a 5-block radius and piss them off in the process or swiping right on every single profile. There's nothing wrong with wanting what we're predispos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:56 AM
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The problem is that women expect the Trad Masculine role but reject their Trad Feminine role while simultaneously demonizing masculinity. Wrong. It's the opposite, really. Men benefit from feminism when 78% of women have their own full-time jobs to bring in half the income, thereby taking half the pressure off men to provide. How the hell are men providers when only 22% of men are sole male breadwinners? Men also benefit from the patriarchy where they do as little chores and childcare as possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:28 AM
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so they treat me like I have to pay for all their expectations, because it compensates for the expectations that they expect me to have So women should initiate, pay for the dates, do all the chores, household duties and childcare in the relationship, while holding down her own full-time to contribute half the household income, and endure disappointing sex. The man, on the other hand, works, mows the lawn once a year, and has to resort to stealing the valor of other men by claiming he's also fix…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:09 AM
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traditional male roles are far harder to break than traditional female roles Yes, washing dishes, cooking and making a few doctor's appointments once in a while, instead of dumping that on the wife, is so hard. There's this invisible forcefield of laziness and entitlement holding men back and if men could just break through this invisible forcefield, they could contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:55 AM
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Yeah, like it's some sort of giant mystery that men can't figure out. Men know what women want, which is for men to do some chores and watch their kids, instead of resting on their laurels after they mowed the lawn that month. They're just being intentionally obtuse because if they acknowledged it, they would actually have to do some work around the house, rather than continue to sit on the couch all day, ignoring their kids like they usually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:49 AM
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it's not charity Yeah, what else do you call it when 95% of heterosexual men reported having orgasms every time, but only 65% of heterosexual women do. It's nothing but a charity for self-centered loser men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:59 AM
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They seem to be fine with having sex with other women. 88% of women who have sex with other women report orgasming every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:40 AM
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Wait, so men suck harder at pleasuring women than initially thought? Is 65% a generous estimate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:38 AM
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I roasted him on another thread so now he's mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 05:37 AM
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Most men want you to enjoy sex The fact that only 65% of heterosexual women report orgasming everytime proves that this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:33 AM
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While only 65% of heterosexual women reported having orgasms everytime. Disappointing sex is just another form of unpaid work men expect from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:30 AM
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Men suck at pleasuring women because they are selfish and only concerned with their own sexual pleasure. 65% of heterosexual women reported orgasming everytime they had sex. If it was 65% of heterosexual men, there would be a lot fewer men harassing women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:27 AM
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Everyone needs to cook and cleaning everyday, no matter where you live. Men's bullshit chores These are all niche, highly specific jobs that only apply to few men. 99% of men aren't doing that ever. What lawn are they mowing and what roof are they fixing when they live in apartments? None. However, 99% of women cook and clean everyday. That's the difference. Men don't turn it into the Oppression Olympics. That's because men don't do anything. Seriously, what do you men do, besides avoiding chore…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 02:19 AM
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There's that thumb on the scale again, comparing once a never chores with time-consuming chores that need to be done everyday. Roof fixing the evap cooler If women cooked as much as men fixed roofs and unclogged drains, everyone would die of starvation. I don't complain that my wife doesn't do half the yard work. You mow the lawn once a month for 6 months. You also don't mow the lawn in Winter and it also hasn't snowed in my area last year. So what are men doing? Nothing. They're doing nothing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 11:37 PM
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I don’t have a problem with men having the role of cooking and cleaning. How magnanimous. You mean you don't have a problem with men doing their fair share of necessary, daily, time-consuming labor, instead of dumping it on the women constantly? Leave it men to clean their mess, while telling women that they are doing women a favor. Because I’m willing to bet when it comes to shoveling snow at 6am, mowing the lawn in 90 degree weather, or fixing a roof leak The bullshit once a year chores that n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 06:19 AM
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women too- there's a lot of brainwashing in women's dating culture that it's embarrassing if he's not paying for you all the time, buying expensive gifts, treating you like a "goddess", No woman wants that. What women want is for men to do more chores and childcare, to make a few doctor's appointments, plan a few parties, cook a few meals and remember a few details about the children, instead of leaving that always for the women to do, like the husband is another child she needs to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:59 AM
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The old social contract was that Men provide, build, protect, enterprise, lead, manage Ok, so it's pretty much elusive and abstract concepts that have no basis in reality, to cover up the fact that men actually don't provide anything to women. Look at all the leadership and team building they're doing from the couch. network for the sake of building both family and community with and for women. Wrong. Women do the kinkeeping work to build families and relationships. If men actually did that, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:29 AM
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we have a slightly non traditional setup where i do many of the masculine things (earn 2x more, pay more in rent, always do 50/50, plan our dates and vacations) But that's the problem. Women can be trusted not to screw over anyone else. In every single situation, men always put themselves ahead of everyone else. He's a provider? Great, but he does nothing at home. She's the provider? She still has to do half the childcare and more chores than her bum of a husband who doesn't work. Is there some …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:51 AM
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They also are the largest consumers of True Crime content, so that feeds into their distrust of men Men, have you considered committing fewer crimes? I feel like women need to communicate better and if we could just formulate the combination of correct words, there would be fewer women raped and killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:59 AM
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I think a bigger problem is a lot of men and women have indatable personalities but men are more okay with overlooking it to not be alone. Yeah, because men are the compassionate and empathetic ones in the relationship. That's why they do so many house chores and childcare, while holding down a full-time job, are more likely to participate in organ donation, volunteering, eldercare and commit few crimes compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:51 AM
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How much of a rapist are you when even the resident sociopath is raising their eyebrows and asking a few questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:20 PM
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I see what he tried to say but boy did that come out wrong. In what situation would what he said come out right? He said that he's allowed to talk to women, casually flirt or politely ask them out. Women can't do anything about it, they just have to sit still and take it until he moves on. Because his right to shoot his shot is more important than their comfort. persistent unwanted sexual attention Persistent, which means he's allowed a few freebie unwanted sexual attention gropes before he beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:16 PM
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They understand, alright. They just don't care. It's rapists rationalizing their rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:01 PM
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"the difference is consent" argument So because some women consented to Chad testing her boundaries in some obscure, highly specific situation, therefore women generally don't understand the concept of consent and are unreliable arbiters who are over reporting rape. Cases of rape accusations are really just misunderstandings. Cool. Thanks man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:56 AM
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Freedom is a right to act upon one's free will. Free will is a judgement on the choices of our actions and whether they are truly our own or governed by fate. Freedom is the ability to do something. Free will has nothing to with freedom. That means if a rapist is more successful in reproducing and its offspring reproducing again(like a mathmatical induction) the trait will persist. Disagree. Genes only succeed in their purpose if they can also reproduce. A child borne out of contentious circumst…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 08:16 AM
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Are men ever responsible for anything, ever? Some men believe it's harmful that many women don't seem concerned about the decline in relationships and family formation. If these men care so much about families, they need to do more housework and childcare and less sitting on the couch doing nothing all night. they have no larger purpose. That can leave them feeling directionless and lost Skill issue. Plan a brunch for Sunday with a friend, shut the hell up and listen for once. You might a make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:34 AM
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But, Jesus says you have to do it anyway even if it isn’t fun or pleasurable. Then Jesus can have sex with him. It's just expected that women endure dissappointing and often painful sex, due to how callous men are. Have straight men ever had to endure painful sex? Probably never, because women are rarely that devoid of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:52 PM
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Relationships. With hookups, it's even worse as only 1 of out 10 women orgasm. So 65% is us being generous towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:48 PM
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biological instinct to want to carry on their lineage and give their child the best possible chance to give the same Just because these men want children to flatter their narcissism, doesn't necessarily mean women should accommodate. Is it a biological instinct for men to avoid doing as much childcare as possible, or comprise of 1 of out 5 custody arrangements as the custodial parent, or be the 27% of men who abandon their children after divorce altogether?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:52 PM
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This is bullshit. I feel like we could save a lot of time if we just applied this statement to whatever Red Pill men (or men in general) say.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:43 PM
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Women don't like sex with men because men are awful at pleasuring women. With 95% of men and 65% of women having orgasms every time, that's a 30% gap. Have men considered sucking less at sex with women? Whenever you look at deadbedroom subs, the first comment directed at men is usually: "Are you doing chores and childcare?", because statistically, men don't pull their weight in the household. Disappointing sex, where the man orgasms but the woman doesn't, is common and frequent and another form …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:41 PM
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Don't worry, we'll find men when we need one to hit a quota of 47.2 hours on the couch doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:50 AM
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know nothing about her personality or have very few things in common with her. So men are done in by their own shallowness. But they'll find some way to blame it on women or use it to milk some unpaid work and sympathy from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:24 AM
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Ever heard of a guy stringing along multiple girls, or a guy with a secret second wife and family? The reverse rarely if ever happens. The reason why women don't have second secret families is because women don't have the option of irresponsibly dumping her eggs in men and leaving them with the work of birthing and raising a family. Having to care for two families is double the work for the women. It's not double the work for men, because 2 x 0 is still 0. If anything, this just further illustra…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:16 AM
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Men generally dont care about women's money Really? Because they suddenly care when they are whining about paying alimony. while the same can't be said about women Yes, because women generally don't expect men to hold down a full-time job, while doing all the chores and childcare, like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:57 AM
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I think it is objective that men have it have it worse for a variety of reasons. Yes and most if it is self-inflicted, because they don't provide any value to women. for example, on dating apps (which is the most common way people meet their partner now) theres a study that shows women find 80 percent of men to be unattractive. Can you blame women? Considering that 77% of men in the US are obese or overweight, compared to 69% of women and men are much less likely than women to take care of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:43 AM
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Only Fans subscriptions That's the single most pathetic thing about men, that they have resort to paid company, because the company men provide others is worthless and no one will talk to them for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:44 AM
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Yes, because 95% of heterosexual men orgasm every time, wheres 65% of heterosexual women orgasm every time. Just for reference, 88% of women who have sex with other women orgasm every time. If men faced such low orgasm rates, women would never hear the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:35 AM
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please explain to me, how is 6.1 hours of childcare seven times less then 14.1 hours of childcare? Because it isn't. But 47.2 hours of leisure time, compared to 6.1 hours of childcare, is. So perhaps counterintuitively I a construction worker, after a day of hard work find it much easier to do house chores around our house then my wife That job should be paying enough for you to hire help to complete your chores, the same chores you would be responsible for if you were single. What that job shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:13 AM
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Women seem to be able to follow this advice. Why can't the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:56 AM
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provider Men don't provide. This is a myth men invented to inflate their value because they provide nothing to women. Only 22% of families are sole male breadwinners. But there is a much higher percentage of men claiming that they are providers. But they can't possibly all be sole male breadwinners, because the numbers don't support them. Which means that this is more stolen valor from men, where they claim that all men are deep sea oil rig fisherman providers to avoid admitting they provide no …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:54 AM
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The reason why posts stating men are lazy aren't taken down is because women can prove it and provide objective evidence that backs up their claim. The reason why similar posts of women by men are taken down is because they can't prove it and they don't provide objective evidence that backs up their claim. Don't paint them with the same brush. There's a difference. They are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:35 AM
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SAHD's are obviously much more efficient at performing their tasks, leaving them with more leisure time. Which explains how they are able to spend 7 times the amount of hours without their children than with their children, even when childcare is their literal job. Never heard SAHD's, construction workers, oil riggers, loggers whine about their jobs. They just focus on doing the job that needs to be done faster so they have more leisure time. No, but they'll use it to shirk all the responsibilit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:25 AM
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But men are the ones running the infrastructure, the ones who built the internet (and somehow got those cables into the ocean) that lets you post the smug comments We've been over this. They are paid for this as part of their jobs. Not every man is a mechanic and not every man is a deep sea fisherman, but men need to claim that all men are, in order to steal their value to pass off as their own. These are niche, highly specific situations, with an additional condition that must be satisfied, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:12 AM
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constantly deny that misandry exists No one is denying that misandry exists. What we are saying is that misandry is a trivial, 1st world problem that men complain about, compared to actual, real problems that women face. Can men debate honestly, because they forever have their thumb on scale, trying to equate the self-inflicted cause of misandry with millennia of systematic oppression of women by the patriarchy. Then they try to gaslight women on the amount of chores and childcare they do, despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:55 AM
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That's just because they're talking anonymously online, so they have to gesture at generalities. It's more like men provide no value at all to women, so they have to gesture at generalties. big engineering projects Only a few men, not all men, are engineers. Only a few men, not all men, are mechanics. That means that only a few men, not all men, did the work. But some men will claim credit for all men, as if they personally did the work themselves. So men only provide value in a few niche situat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 02:07 AM
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Irrelevant and doesn't really refute what I said. Whether or not it's out of the. "goodness of their hearts" (fucking lol) or because they're getting paid doesn't change the value exchanged It has everything to do with the discussion at hand. Women provide value to men precisely through the unpaid work they do (like cooking and cleaning) even though they have a full-time job. Are women in relationships paid to have dissappointing sex with men, where they receive little to no pleasure in return? …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:50 AM
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Because a few men built a bridge 50 years ago, all men can claim that this somehow gives men value? Because John from down the street is a fireman, all men can claim they are also firefighters? So the only way men can articulate their value is by stealing the valor of the men before them. Because otherwise, they have no inherent value. By your reasoning, all women should stop doing childcare and chores for men, because some woman did it in the past, therefore all women can claim they did it. San…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:08 AM
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working electricity, internet, computer, roof above your head, etc. was all because of men Of which they are paid for. Men aren't doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts. Which means, if they aren't paid for it, they won't do it. Are these men going to fix my internet and build me a kitchen if l start dating them? No? Then how is this relevant? So now men are trying to double-dip and claim social credit for work that's already been monitarily compensated, the work that they would be d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:45 PM
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How are botox and BBLs like skipping leg day?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:24 PM
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Such a simple question, but yet, men just can't seem to articulate what value they provide to women. Gee, l wonder why that is? It couldn't possibly be the fact that they provide no value at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:08 PM
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Exactly. Nothing. They can't articulate it, because they provide absolutely no value to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:01 PM
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Good. They should get hung up on the fact that I'm telling them they have no value. Because men have no value. Do they want me to lie and coddle them and say they have value, when we know this isn't true? "Wow, look at all the orgasms men give women, and all the childcare, household chores and emotional labor men do for women!" Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:58 PM
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After 100 nos and turned backs it messes with you mentally Have you considered refraining from spamming your profile to people who aren't interested? After the 38th rejection, you're becoming a low-grade nuisance to the women you approach. Just because you got rejected 100 times doesn't make anyone sympathetic to your plight. You sound like a door-to-door salesman who is entitled to a sale just because he pounded the pavement all day, hoping that some hapless, unsuspecting customer will take pit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:37 PM
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Why is it all of a cardinal sin to call women on dishonesty Women's dishonesty of what? What are women dishonest about? Men don't provide any value to women, which is why women don't approach men, because men's company is worth less than nothing. Men seem to think they provide value to women, despite being unable to articulate what that value is. calling out these things are the entire point Calling what out? Women's hypocrisy? Because women gained equality, they're supposed to approach men out …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:22 PM
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That is possibly one of the most despicable, dehumanizing statements I have ever read Yes, l also get indignant when l am confronted with evidence of my own entitlement and laziness. Then value do men provide to women? No man has able to articulate this, except provide elusive, abstract concepts of being a provider and protector (of which they do none). whatever issues have made you see relationships in such transactional terms You have that backwards. Men seem to project when they don't have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:53 PM
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No, obese women aren't entitled to thin and attractive men. But "genders reversed" doesn't work as women in general have earned the right to be entitled to an attractive man because there are fewer fat women then there are fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:45 PM
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Yes, because 77% of men are either overweight or obese compared to 69% of women in the US. Can you blame women for not being attracted to men, considering that there are 8% more fat men around than fat women. My problem with men isn't that they're obese and ugly. It's that men are obese and ugly while believing they are entitled to a thin and attractive woman. It's the hypocrisy. If men feel entitled to attractive women, they need to go on a collective diet and get their percentage down to 69%, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:19 PM
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I'm strictly talking about the initial dating phase since both parties can be an active participant in initiating dates and relationships. Why? It seems like an arbitrary cut off to minimize the lack of value men provide to women. Dating doesn't exist in a vacuum. The relationship doesn't just end after the first date. It progresses and eventually, issues like chores and childcare come into play. You'd think that if women were complaining about this so often their ultimatum would be to date men …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:11 PM
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It's like asking a PS5 to find a home. Why would a PS5 need to approach men? The PS5 has value from all the work it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 05:02 PM
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So by your same logic. Since men are gonna be most of the time the breadwinners then women should be OK with doing most of that labor. No. These are egalitarian men and husbands of sole and primary female breadwinners. All lazy because they only bring in half the household income at most, while leaving the chores and childcare for the women to do. Men referring to themselves as "providers" is a myth men invented to gaslight women and divert attention away from how little value they provide to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:58 PM
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It's indicative of how men take shortcuts in life and think women don't notice. A man who trains for fitness wouldn't skip leg day, but a man who trains for vanity will skip leg day because it's hard and ends up looking ridiculous as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:43 PM
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So here is my deal, I get to ask you out as long as if the relationship lasts you do all the bulk of the household work? Let's switch? No. Best men can do is offer women disappointing sex, a more lopsided chore imbalance that favors him and no responsibility on contraception. Plus the women needs to approach the men and also pay for the entire date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:35 PM
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But you have seen plenty of men with which you want nothing to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:29 PM
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Men seem to have trouble understanding that they provide no value to women, except more chores to do. Then they're perplexed as to why women aren't falling over themselves to approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 PM
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Yes, but men don't provide any value to women, like how men don't provide any value to the fish. Which is why men need to approach women or do the work needed to catch fish. No woman or fish is going to drop themselves into a man's lap. Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:23 PM
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The amount of men with large arms and chests, with scrawny chicken legs tells you exactly what men's priorities are. If you covered up their upper bodies, it doesn't look like these men work out at all. Masculinity is performative and men take shortcuts all the time. Men skip leg day all the time because it is difficult. I stare at men's scrawny legs to shame them. Yes, women notice and it makes men ugly as hell with their thin torso and legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:09 PM
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No. Men already shirk their fair share of chores, childcare and emotional labor in the relationship. Now they are trying the delegate the work of approaching to women. What exactly are men responsible for, anyway? Men don't provide any value to women. Why would women approach men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:46 PM
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Why should men get credit for cold approaches? They are pretty much doing the equivalent of swiping right on every woman, which means they are spamming their profile to women who aren't interested. They put zero effort into it. That's not a good strategy and it shouldn't be rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:14 PM
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That's not going to happen. Rapists will always protect other rapists as part of rape culture. The only thing women can do to reduce the number of rapes is to also take testosterone and make themselves unappealing to men, since men tend not to rape men as much as they do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:05 PM
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that increasing testosterone in soldiers means women on military bases and women abroad should "be careful In Afghanistan, women comprised of 30% of rape victims, while men comprised of 1%, in the military. More testosterone use may lead to more incidences of sexual assault. the first instinct is often to question the woman, speculate about her motives, or dismiss the allegations as "just accusations" Rape is the only crime on Earth where the victim is put on trial. That's why women talk about r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 01:43 PM
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The majority of men act in ways that encourage women's entitlement and narcissism. They need to stop swiping right and hitting on every woman. There are artificially raising women's value. Simps and women think a man who splits the bill is cheap or a "brokie" However, men need to get their lives together or stop dating. No woman wants a man that has to nickel and dime her. Whereas for many women, they would never think of paying for a man But what do men provide women in a one night stand? She n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:56 AM
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Egalitarian men work 3.1 more paid hours, but they take 3.6 more hours of leisure time. Women make up that 3.1 hours, while doing an extra 1.4 hours per week on top of that. Whereas husbands of primary female breadwinners work 2 fewer hours than their wives, but do 3.4 fewer hours of chores. How the hell do men manage to work fewer hours and do less chores? By being a lazy douchebag. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:35 AM
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Yes, women and men are both shallow but men are excused for their shallowness, whereas women are chastised and told to focus on personality, much more than men are. Like with childcare and household chores, men expect women to conform to beauty standards, but are somehow exempt from their own. Not only are men less likely to put effort into their appearance because of their laziness, the average man is more likely to be obese and overweight than the average woman. Women's beauty is wasted on men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:47 AM
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Why is it easier for women to get? Because what they receive isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 08:26 AM
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Blatant sexism. Where men dump as much childcare as he humanly can on women? Yes, l agree. That is sexist. Just assuming that men don’t parent. SAHM: 30.5 hours of leisure time, 14.1 hours of childcare and 10.5 hours of chores per week. SAHD: 47.2 hours of leisure time, 6.1 hours of childcare and 4.0 hours of chores per week Men don't parent. Even when it's literally their job. When it isn't their job, men do even less parenting. Who is making assumptions here? The only assumptions l see being m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:26 AM
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and turn to political lesbianism, where their abuse rates are going up Women were the perpetrators in 2/3 of intimate partner violence against other women. Men made up the other 1/3 of perpetrators. So men do win, but as with everything, they do their victory laps winning mainly by default. It's not a landslide, like how the perpetrators of intimate partner violence against bisexual women are 90% men. At least it's a fair fight between two women, where very few of them get raped or killed. Despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:16 AM
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The reason why men are the overwhelmingly majority of clients for prostitutes is because the average woman can get sex quite easily while the average man cannot. Incorrect. It's because men are selfish, inconsiderate and are only concerned with their own sexual needs. All they provide to women is disappointing sex as only 1 out of 10 women orgasm in a one-night stand, while women in relationships have a 1 in 2 chance of having an orgasm. They resort to prostitutes because women refuse to do the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:01 AM
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That's because they get help. Men are equally depressed but the difference is that they just whine about suicide rates and how no one cares about men, while doing nothing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 06:50 AM
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biggest cat ladies These women get more pussy than men ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:55 AM
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And women are? Data? The guy that posts crappy YouTube videos and links to his abandoned subreddit as sources, is somehow demanding sources. How rich. People expect men to build the world, of course, they are expected to build their families too Of which they are paid for. Men aren't doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts. Which means, if they aren't paid for it, they won't do it. That explains their abysmally low rates of eldercare and volunteer work. So now men are trying to double…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:53 AM
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We can in fact say that a man can simply do all of a woman's cooking and cleaning for 3 years before having kids, and he has in fact paid off 3 pregnancies. No amount of trivial work from men will ever be equal to the amount of life-altering work women must perform during pregnancy and childbirth. Do five poorly done toilet scrubs by men equal one blown out vagina? Nannies who work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week cost $90k. A real stay-at-home parent who also cooks and cleans works 16 hours a day 7…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:49 AM
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why do I have to play the long game when Ray-Ray didn't have to. Because Ray-Ray is attractive and you aren't. Why do you think you deserve all the advantages that Ray-Ray has worked hard for? Smells like DEI for men to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:36 AM
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unfairly paints men No. This is an accurate categorization. Have the men who spam their profile online and IRL constantly considered not doing it? Only men of low value have to resort to doing so, because they are desperate, which means their company is equally worthless. exact same thing Yes. They're both douchebags disturbing women. Saying that dating "Is just a numbers game" is probably the stupidest assumption I've ever heard about dating. Of course, it comes from men, because it doesn't wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:26 AM
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While they do nothing but take and receive. Just because we've proven that men provide women nothing of value doesn't necessarily mean that the opposite is true. Men calling women equally useless is just men projecting. Meanwhile people have busy lives, working jobs and such. Good. Leave the women alone. Men are expect by society and women to pursue. Yes, because men don't provide any value to women. If men did, women would fall over themselves trying to date men. It's the complete opposite, rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:16 AM
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Yeah, that's what l do when l love someone, which is to dump the unpaid labor and childcare on her and try to do as little as possible. That's a funny way of showing love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 07:11 AM
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This seems to be a men's problem that men are responsible for. Seems like a skill issue here. This raises the question: why aren't men happy single? Women are much more happy single because they are free from the encumbrance of being in a relationship with men, with all the unpaid work and duties that entail, along with the disappointing sex, where they only have a 1 in 2 chance of having an orgasm. They are also much more willing to do the kinkeeping work to maintain their social networks. Sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:18 AM
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Resources aren't infinite. Why doesn't society focus on more pressing matters, like actual crimes against women and then move onto more trivial things, like putting influeners in jail?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 05:38 AM
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constantly post things online about how much they hate men. Posting statistics and data that outline how little value men provide women is not posting hate. It's the natural consequence of men demanding relationships with women, while doing little to no work on maintaining these relationships. There is a difference. There are tons of overt and casual misandrist posts and comments that would get them canceled by their friends, family, and coworkers if the genders were reversed. Let's reverse the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:48 AM
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What if my partner and I want to live together without automatically getting married? So you're a chore-digger that lied to her about wanting commitment when you just wanted a casual relationship. What women would do all the work required in a committed relationship, while only getting casual-level benefits? Men won't even clean their own disgusting bathrooms, yet they expect women to do this for men, for free. Why would you lie to her? Why didn't you tell her you wanted a casual relationship? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:24 AM
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Modern men take care of ourselves, cook, clean just fine. No, they don't. Men just insist they do their fair share to try and gaslight women, while refusing to produce any studies or evidence to back them up. If men could produce statistics proving they did, they would have done it already. They can't, because every study on the household chore imbalance overwhelmingly concludes that men spend a lot of time on the couch doing nothing and avoiding their children. Women are by far and large the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:18 AM
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Some men opt not to or don’t care about marriage ie financial or personal reasons, same with the women they common law with. But why are these men even dating in the first place? If they want casual sex, they should be dating other women who don't want to commit. Men need to communicate better and stay away from women who want commitment. Why do these casual men tend to end up in relationships with committed women? A committed relationship does not equal traditional marriage, common law can tota…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:04 AM
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Men can't even be bothered to do their own chores and watch their own kids. Are we really surprised that reading, another form of unpaid work, is being avoided by men? Men are so lazy, they can't even debate properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:49 AM
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First things first. Why don't we work on putting rapists and murderers, who are mostly men, in prison first before we move onto imprisoning influencers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:36 AM
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Yes, because women get shafted on chores and childcare by men, where they do 90% of it, while working their own full-time job. Men come home from work and do nothing all evening. Even worse, men become another child she has to take care of. Women are willing to risk being poor for the rest of their lives and would rather chew their leg off to get out of the bear trap than endure one more minute being married to a man, because it's so awful. Women who initiate divorces tend to stay single for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:33 AM
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Yes, because men harm women by being in relationships where they don't do their fair share of chores, household duties and childcare. Why are these casual men dating commitment-minded women in the first place? They should be dating women who also want a casual relationship. That way, she doesn't waste her efforts doing unpaid labor, duties and childcare for someone who doesn't value it. If unpaid labor is worth nothing, then men should be more than happy to do their own chores and manage their o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:12 AM
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Absolutely. Dating men is a bad decision for women. Men who want a casual relationship lie and date women who want commitment to extract resources from them. Men are lazy and entitled at best, where they become another child the woman needs to take care of. At worst, men are abusive and violent, where they only pick fights with women. No good comes out dating men, so women should continue to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:58 AM
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It is still unfair to force someone to be in a informal marriage when they dont want to. Did someone hold a gun to their heads and force them to move in with a girlfriend? Stay single, go on the apps for casual sex and date women who also don't want commitment. What's the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:43 AM
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This problem is self-inflicted. Why are these men dating women who want commitment? These men should also be dating women who want a casual relationship. Why are men who don't want marriage even dating and moving in together in the first place? Stay single and go on the apps for casual sex. These men need to have their own place, do their own chores and manage their own lives. That way, these men can keep all their money and no woman can lay a claim to it. If they get lonely, then so be it. Too …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:37 AM
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Because men are chore-digging bums who don't do their chores, household duties and childcare in relationships. Men don't pull their weight in relationships and will always dump the unpaid work on women, no matter how much money she makes, because men are lazy and entitled. Men want the benefits of commitment, but they don't want to commit. Nope. It doesn't work like that. If it did, both parties would dump their chores on the other, while keeping their own money. Leave it to lazy men to depend o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:21 AM
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Men also suck at pleasuring their partners more than every other demographic. Can you blame women for not being as excited about sex if she only has a 1 in 10 chance of orgasming?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:09 AM
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downvote without reply That wasn't me, but I'll take the sentiment as validation. you can look up the american time use survey by pew research yourself for reference. Where do you think l got the numbers from? Men work 3.1 hours, but they have 3.6 more hours of leisure time. Women work fewer hours but have less leisure time. How does that happen? Because men dump the unpaid work on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:05 AM
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Yeah, the one where sole breadwinner men do very little household chores, whereas sole female breadwinners do an extra 1.2 hours of chores than her SAHD, despite the fact that he doesn't work. Or how egalitarian men only work 3.1 more hours, but take an extra 3.6 hours of leisure time. Women make up that 3.1 hour deficit, while doing an extra 1.4 hours on top of that, which turns out to be 72.8 hours per year. Or how husbands of primary female breadwinners work 2 fewer hours but do 3.4 fewer hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:40 AM
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Just because she doesn't do it that day, doesn't mean she's never going to do it. Dating doesn't exist in a vacuum. If men aren't the ones who are consistently left holding the bag, then they need to shut the hell up about "disportionate house labor" because men aren't the ones always stuck with the extra unpaid work. admit that you're just a mooching bum that wants free stuff Says the chore digger who always seems to have more leisure time than the women, because they don't do anything. Project…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:19 AM
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Here we go, with the accusations of assumptions and broad generalizations to derail the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:46 AM
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Men are misandrists and lead women into misandry Ok, this is pretty funny and l totally agree. Men hate women and they hate other men even more. That's why we have a lack of programs for men because men don't care about other men and they can't be bothered to do anything that helps other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:40 AM
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Women can back it up by being proven to do a disproportionate amount of household labor and childcare. Men can't, because they're lazy and selfish. That's the difference. Work on men's laziness and entitlement first. Then we can talk about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:28 AM
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Don't be obtuse. Lazy and entitled (and apparently, cheapskate) men radicalize women through their laziness and entitlement. Look at all these women, drowning in all the help they get from men in regards to chores and childcare. Oh no, wait. It's the complete opposite. They're pissed that men don't provide anything to women besides more chores to do. If women refuse to date men because men are a net drain on women's lives and men get pissy about the fact that they are essentially children that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:19 AM
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So these bums don't pay their fair share of the bills and surprise, surprise, they also don't cook or do any of the household chores needed. Gee, how could l possibly have predicted that?! It couldn't possibly be because we have access to statistics documenting how lazy and entitled men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:09 AM
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used for free meals Then don't date. Stay single and use the apps for casual sex. If men are lonely as a result, then so be it. No woman wants a cheapskate for a partner whom, statistically, she also has clean up afterwards and cook for. As always, men's problems are self-inflicted. If men could be trusted not to be a child the woman needs to take care of in a relationship, more women would be onboard with paying for dates. But as it stands presently, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:59 AM
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Men don't simp. That's a myth. When they do simp, it's for a beautiful woman they have no chance of being with because the simp in question is obese and ugly. They simp because they believe they are entitled to attractive women, despite looking like a cave troll themselves. If they lowered their standards and approached women who are equally obese and ugly, simping would cease to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:14 AM
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So women should also pay for half the dates, while bringing in half the household income and doing 90% of the household chores, duties and childcare? What do men provide anyway, besides disappointing sex and more unpaid work to do? That's a funny way of simping for women, where men sit on the couch for 25.2 hours per week and avoid as much housework and childcare as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:08 AM
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Yeah, that's how feminists came to the same conclusion independently. It couldn't possibly be because it's a stupid premise that has no bearing in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:48 AM
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therefore child support is an equivalent action that will rectify men's biological advantage in avoiding pregnancy," fantastic intelligence Yeah, let's talk about that. The right to bodily autonomy guarantees that no one can be forced to put their body through pregnancy and childbirth if they don't want to. That only legally entails that if men get pregnant, they can also obtain an abortion. But just because men don't need an abortion, because they don't carry the baby, doesn't mean you can subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 12:33 AM
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I don't think I've ever heard of a single mom needing to post her resume here because it's so common. The statistic about children being raised by single parents was to shame men for their absence, not to attack women working full-time and doing all the childcare. All 16% of you, doing victory laps like you didn't win by default. Single male households comprise of 2% of households that have children. 80% for women. It's rare that the mom isn't around, but it's common that the dad isn't. It would…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 09:02 AM
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Whoever that is downvoting this guy, while hilarious, please stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:19 AM
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people are often inconsistent That's not inconsistency. Red Pill men routinely make leaps in logic and bad-faith arguments to derail the discussion all the time, without the reasoning or statistics to back them up. They also have no idea what an actual double standard is. For example, Red Pill men frequently hijack the right to abortion via bodily autonomy all the time to justify whining about the draft. Just because there is one small detail they have in common doesn't mean they can ignore the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 08:13 AM
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fathers do not have equal rights to have access to their own children as mothers do, in 44 out of 50 states Even if they did have equal access, it's not like it changes anything. Men do as little childcare as possible and they can't ignore their children any more than they already are. Men complaining about "muh custody" is performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:25 AM
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Women have lower sex drives than men on average, due to the lack of testosterone. But it doesn't help that heterosexual men are also selfish and utterly awful at pleasuring women, making an already precarious sexual attraction women have to men even more tenuous. A sexual encounter where one party (men) orgasms, but the other party (women) doesn't, is just another form of unpaid work for women. Men would never accept such disappointing conditions, where they have a 1 in 10 chance of orgasming in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 06:33 AM
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We all have "fans" that follow us. The difference is that we don't complain about it like men do. That's the real bitch ass move. blow a sword The line to do so starts at the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 05:00 AM
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Jesus Christ. What have you people unleashed on us? He can't have a conversation because he's too self-centered and moderates a porn sub. Tried the apps and nearly every woman I matched with there said she wanted a relationship that will lead to marriage Gee, l can't imagine why. Just FYI, you're not going to find a woman willing to milk you and focus solely on your pleasure for free. That women doesn't exist. And whatever pleasure you provide her will be disappointing and awkward. My friends to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:54 AM
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I just want a world leader that doesn't shit his pants. It's not the fact that he shits his pants, it's the fact that he is so inconsiderate that he forces the people around him to smell it because he is a malignant narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:29 AM
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OP has abandoned this thread. Normally, he'd be blowing up my inbox, sometimes days afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:13 AM
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gender studies bullshit that came out in the past 15 years False equivalence. Just because this thread is garbage, doesn't mean the opposite is just as nonsensical. It's as disingenuous and intellectually lazy as comparing incels and femcels. You need to prove that femcels commit as much violence as incels before you can paint them with the same brush. You may not agree with gender studies (mostly because they have arguments and studies that prove how generally lazy and entitled men are). That d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:58 AM
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the positive right to an abortion, and if you simply supported abortion not being illegal, that would be the negative right to abortion. You're clear as mud. You mean the absence of opposition? This isn't a negative right. The concept of a "negative right" doesn't exist. What the hell is a "negative right"? But you can break up if she doesn't fuck you because that's negative rights. That's not a negative right. You don't have a legal right to someone's body. Choosing to break up with someone bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:28 AM
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Yes, because a women being forewarned about a paternity test is exactly the same as the right to abort a baby. He can still get it afterwards, but the woman has a right to get pissed as 96-99% of women are faithful. Had he told her ahead of time, she would have avoided this situation. He refuses to become he has no integrity and no honor. If paternity tests are like abortions, when does he go through childbirth? So where's the fetus growing inside his body when she refuses to inform him that she…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:13 AM
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Are these women in the room with us? Yes, they are. We don't notice them because they aren't pissing people off by committing crimes left, right and center.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:25 AM
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Because having sex comes from a place of trust. If men don't trust their partners, then why are they sleeping with them and impregnating them in the first place? What's with the deception? If men intend to pursue a paternity test, they should let the woman know ahead of time. That way, she can't be offended because he warned her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 05:15 AM
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We should have an awareness campaign teaching women not to commit paternity fraud But we do, though. It's a class called "being a decent human being" and we know it works because in 96-99% of cases, the presumed father is the biological father, which means that in 96-99% of cases, women are being honest and truthful. Men, on the other hand, fell asleep during orientation. Just like it's not women's fault men rape them, should we tell women they just should've picked men that wouldn't do that? Ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:25 AM
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Exactly. Men have no honor or integrity. If they did, they'd tell the woman beforehand and let the chips fall where they may.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:23 AM
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France even made paternity testing illegal without a court order because they know the truth would disrupt society If that is true, the disruption stems from women who found out that their partners don't fundamentally trust them, not from the few cases of paternity fraud. Cases of paternity fraud range from 1-4%, where the presumed father isn't the biological father, which means that in 96-99% of cases, the mother isn't the presumed town bicycle. From the math alone, you have a 96-99% of pissing…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:18 AM
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So? What does that change anything? Men should be honest and tell her that they plan to pursue a pregnancy test before they have sex and let the chips fall where they may. So why don't they? Maybe because she's not going to have sex with someone that doesn't fundamentally trust her. Refusing to tell her is taking away her agency. She deserves to make an informed choice about the person whom she's going to sleep with. It's her uterus, not yours. I thought men were all about women's agency? No, wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:48 AM
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Nah. A few toxic men that managed to snag a relationship with a male-centered woman doesn't change any of that. If anything, that's more of a commentary of the patheticness of male-centered women, not on the desirability of toxic men. only 38% of single women are on the dating market, compared with 61% of single men, according to the Pew Research Center https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/08/PSDT_08.20.20.dating-relationships.final_.pdf By 2030, 45% of prime working a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:09 AM
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No one cares about your virtue signaling of how much women like selfless men if no one wants to sleep with him "If no one wants to sleep with him, even if he is nice". How manipulative. Women should keep enduring disappointing sex to reward men for displaying basic human civility? So men are only nice if there is some immediate reward for them, meaning if there is no reward, they act like the worst people on Earth. I totally agree. That explains all the abuse, rape and murder they commit. So you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:10 AM
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Instead the may be bitter because they have to be with someone they are not attracted to Or, and this is a crazy idea but just hear me out, maybe break up with that person if they aren't attracted to that person? Let that person go and find someone who will love them as they are. Staying with someone whom they aren't attracted to (while silently resenting them) is peak selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 04:52 AM
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maximizes her fertility window Her best chance for a healthy baby is with young men, not old men. Men of advanced paternal age (40s and higher) accumulate a higher number of spontaneous genetic mutations in their sperm, leading to a greater chance of autism, schizophrenia, adhd, bipolar disorder and OCD. There's a reason why there is an age limit of 35 for sperm donation. the most important thing is that she always feels young compared to him which boosts her ego. She can feel that way with a sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:25 PM
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When the marriage does fail, the person who is most likely to have initiated the failure is usually the one who benefits the most. No. Stop saying this, because it isn't true. Women initiate 70% of divorces and they are often poorer after divorce. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8599059/ They would rather risk poverty and a 45% reduction (men, 21% reduction) in living standards than stay in the marriage. Where men are failing right now is that a lot of them are doing everything that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:54 PM
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I think you'd make for a terrible friend Yeah, you'd make an awesome one. Not only are you unwilling to do something nice for your friend and ironically see it as transactional and a burden I am willing to do something nice for a friend, but l don't expect him to whine about it if I don't. terrible at communicating and have no trust that a male friend Go ahead, tell him the women are lying. Men love hearing uncomfortable things about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:25 AM
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But you implied it by saying they didn't set you up, meaning there was an expectation they should have done so and you were disappointed when they didn't. They had a job and they didn't do it. What else could it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:17 AM
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So asking someone if they can put their penis in your body and to put their mouth on your penis is the same as asking someone to clean their room?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:12 AM
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Not a single one tried to match me with a friend. Maybe because it's not their job? Stop assigning what is essentially unpaid work you should be doing for your own romantic life to women. They didn't sign up for that. It's nice if they want to help, but you shouldn't expect it and you shouldn't be whining if they don't. Yet when I ask any of them what I’m doing wrong they tell me I’m a great guy You are putting them in a no-win position where they either hurt your feelings by being brutally hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:08 AM
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Rapists who deny they are rapists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:41 AM
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Yes, but they made the mess, which makes them morally culpable. Therefore it isn't a violation because they willingly gave up their bodily autonomy. Forcing someone to clean a mess that they didn't make is a violation of someone's bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:35 AM
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children under parents ,teachers, etc, so just about the whole world is under duress Yes but children and just about the whole world aren't being asked to have sex, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:30 AM
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The rapist is the starving dog in this scenario and the woman is the cruel human denying the starving dog food.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:28 AM
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No, we understand it perfectly. That's why it's so horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:26 AM
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So the rapist is the starving dog in your analogy and the women are the cruel humans denying men sex, so the rapist, like the starving dog, are forced to badger the woman/cruel human for sex/food through no fault of their own, and are therefore blameless when they attack women/bark at the cruel human. Gotcha. And you wonder why women keep swiping left.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:24 AM
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Few women are going to be brave enough toe to tow with a man cause he might swing back. Few men are willing to go toe to toe with other men. That's why they only pick fights with women. Against the other women though..? Ive seen shit At least it's a fair fight. Despite their weight advantage, l don't see very many women pick fights with toddlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:54 AM
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90 percent of women are not above average. They aren't, but men's laziness artificially boosts women's value. If men weren't so desperate, women's value would be much lower. As always, men's problems are self-inflicted. Clearly there is an issue. Yes, men's low value as a result of their lazy and transactional nature. Mindlessly swiping right on 1000 profiles is pathetic, no matter how you slice it. Just because women can't personally see that men are doing this, doesn't make it any less patheti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:27 AM
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What does this have to do with anything?! Men who don't work should be doing exactly the same hours of unpaid work as SAHMs. They don't. That's the problem. Men would never tolerate having to work to bring in all the income, while still having to do half the childcare and more than half the household chores. Neither should the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:05 AM
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If someone gets 5 coffees off of 200 swipes, how would him being pickier improve his success? The algorithm penaltizes men for being lazy. "Casting a wide net" means that men are essentially spamming their profile to other users, which makes them a low-value nuisance because this means they'll date just about anyone, regardless of compatibility. https://aiinstitute.hbs.edu/platform-digit/submission/tinder-wants-you-to-tone-down-your-right-swipes/ the team found that some users swiped right on ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:19 AM
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Nah. No one wants to live in a 1 traffic light having backwater burg because there aren't any jobs there, unless you want to work 40 hours as a cashier at the Try-n-Save forever. Small town politics is rife with drama and eventually, the village dating scene becomes incestuous as everyone has exhausted their dating prospects, and people have to resort marrying their cousins because everyone else has fled into the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:15 AM
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🤣 No argument here!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:45 AM
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Well, he does need a wife to work her 40.2 hours to bring home all the income, while chipping in 4.1 hours on childcare and 5.2 hour on chores per week. If he has his own job, that's going to massively cut into his 47.2 hours of leisure time. He needs that time to recover from his 6.1 hours of childcare and 4.0 hours of chores per week. God forbid he miss his quota of spending 7 times the amount of hours on leisure time than on caring for his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:43 AM
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Why share a common worldview with a woman you're dating when you could spend your life at odds with someone trying to bend her to your will. "He only wants a woman who is free because his dream is to put her in a cage."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:30 AM
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assert they are true over and over again I'm not saying it. The radical feminazi research organization Pew Research, who used data from the American Time Use Survey, derived from another misandric woke institution, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, is saying it. dozen statistical fallacies What statistical fallacies? Did they miscount the hours for all men? Did men manage to do even fewer hours of childcare and chores than initially counted?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:28 AM
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reverse trad might be needed when 90% of jobs in some fields are going to women Sole female breadwinners don't want a SAHD that only does 2 more hours of childcare than her per week, despite the fact HE DOESN'T WORK.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:07 AM
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protecting custody Men could just ask for custody. They don't, because they don't want to take care of their children, as evidenced by how little childcare they do, whether they be sole or primary male breadwinners, egalitarian, or husbands of sole or primary female breadwinners, compared to women. men seeking their children's approval When SAHDs have 42.7 hours of leisure time but only 6.1 hours of childcare per week, I'm not sure if "children's approval" is what they seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:00 AM
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Thank you. Women swipe right on less than 5% of profiles, while men swipe right on over 53% My point still stands. There is no way men read 106 profiles. Women most likely did read the 5% profiles they swiped on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:57 AM
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Damn. GTA 6 was worth the 13 year wait. Vata Loco Hello Kitty is the first female protagonist in the series.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:15 AM
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So now he wants to commit. Nah, let's just stick with the casual situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:12 AM
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2000 swipes to get 5 coffees. Out of those 5 coffees, 4 will ghost you. He's confusing quantity with effort. The men did not read through 2000 profiles, they merely swiped right on every single one because it's the easiest and laziest thing to do. Only bots, scammers and truly undesirable people do that. Is it any wonder that he got back the same effort he put into it? He tried to game the algorithm by putting in as little effort into it as possible and the algorithm gamed him. I'm glad men get …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:44 AM
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For example, want to know how you don’t get into a Situationship? Women should assume that men are lying and do absolutely no chores or unpaid work, no exclusive companionship and be infrequent with sex, until they are in a committed relationship. Men have no compunction about stringing women along to extract resources from them because they are narcissists with no empathy. Women must protect themselves. Understand what you want from the beginning, be very firm that you’re looking for a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 02:20 AM
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The incentive is avoiding a female loneliness epidemic like women are currently experiencing Women do that by making brunch plans, volunteering, creating book clubs and going to farmer's markets on Sunday with friends, not by going on dates with broke and/or cheapskate men. Men like this need to stay single and stop dating. Men already nickel and dime women out of their fair share of chores and household duties. Now they're trying to nickel and dime their way out of the one responsibility they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:46 PM
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you won't be wasting my time anymore. Huh? Didn't you respond to his post? He didn't respond to yours. How can he be wasting your time when you could have, you know, not replied to his post in first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:44 PM
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Don't you just hate it when you've typed up a response and then: This account has been banned How do these accounts manage to get past Evasion Guard in the first place? To mcmlxiv1: If you're still reading, maintain some dignity and let it go. It's getting pathetic now. You've been permabanned site-wide for a reason. Reddit has been reduced to a read-only state for you. You should accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:49 AM
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Sometimes the richest people around count their pennies; that's how they got to be rich. Millionaires count their pennies to exploit the working class and cheat them out of their fair wages. If you are implying that men exploit women in the same manner, l totally agree with you. you know I want the kikimora life? Stop quoting yourself and stop posting garbage sources like they mean anything. Every single source you post is from your own crappy subreddit or garbage videos from youtube. stats show…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 05:17 AM
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Men who need to count their pennies shouldn't be dating in the first place. So these men are broke and they don't do their chores. These men need to get their lives together because they're just going to be a drain on whatever women unlucky enough to cross paths with them. These women would rather just stay single. Men who complain about paying for dates are the same ones constantly going on first dates because they can't get a second date. That's a men's problem for men to solve. muh orgasm gap…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:30 AM
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Both people in a relationship should be considerate of each other's needs Yeah, but why do you say this, though? That's an assumption that men make, that they are equal partners in a relationship with women. In reality, this isn't the case. Men are much less considerate of women's needs than the opposite. I call men lazy and entitled because men are lazy and entitled and l can prove it too. Men get enraged, not because they are insulted, but because they know, deep down, that the hard evidence p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:05 AM
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Not all men, but somehow, always a man. goofy as hating ALL women What about the women? Why would men hate women? Are they raping and murdering men at the same rates as men rape and murder women? If it's just a tiny subset of mem committing crimes, we should also see a corresponding tiny subset of women committing crimes. But we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:44 PM
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Men make horrible SAHDs because they are lazy and entitled. They have the highest amount of leisure time out of every demographic at 47.2 hours and only do about 6.1 hours of childcare and 4.0 hours of chores per week. His wife works 40.2 hours, spends 4.1 hours on childcare and 5.2 on chores. So the wife works all week and spends more time on chores than her husband, who does nothing all day. Just for comparison, the average SAHM does about 14.1 hours of childcare and 10.5 hours of chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:14 PM
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But muh misandree! When it's really men finally being called out for being absolute turds to women since time immemorial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:04 AM
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No, of course not. Except for the patriarchy that existed for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:59 AM
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Women's consent So men finally care about consent, but only in the context of rationalizing and excusing their sexual violence towards women. If men actually cared about women's consent, there wouldn't be any ambiguity. Another example of this is the claim that most men leave their wives in case of cancer, the study for that was pulled back but still most people parrot the headline to "win" arguments. No. It's still true that men are caregiving leeches who don't reciprocate and further validated…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:53 AM
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Do you think it's any more boring than working on an assembly line? Or in a call centre, or as a bricklayer? Women work too. Except they don't use it as an excuse to avoid doing anything at home, like men do. I did more practical care of my now adult children than my wife Do you want a cookie for that? No one cares about your personal experiences. Maybe in your backwards country or state. If you don't like living in a conservative theocracy, leave. It's from Pew Research about the US in general,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:34 AM
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Here come the men being pedantic and defensive about how they are exactly the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:46 AM
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I'd argue that men's attention is worth less than nothing and is more of a nuisance than anything. Men are attracted to beautiful women, not just for the attention, but for the validation of other men. That's before they give you all their chores to do, while eating 70% of the food. "hey bb wanna come over and make me cum" means nothing, as it should, because it is nothing. Men suck at pleasuring women, we've told them exactly how much they suck at pleasuring woman (with statistics) but they wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:36 AM
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Do you truly think humanity will die out? No. There will always be children as a result of men raping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:23 AM
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Excellent. A culture that refuses to adapt, deserves to die. Childcare is boring, unpaid work, which is why men try to delegate it to the nearest woman at every turn. I love how the narrative is always to question and second-guess women and propose solutions to remove her independence and abortion rights to force women to be mothers. It's never on the men to stop being lazy chore diggers for the kids they want, more than women. Men want children more (57% vs 48%), benefit the most from children …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:20 AM
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she's moderately attractive Men need to go to therapy for their shallowness. To have something that trivial dictate relationships is extremely pathetic and other men encourage it. As usual, men's problems and issues are self-inflicted. I'm convinced that men lack the capacity for self-reflection. There will never be a lightbulb moment for men where they realize that they, and their lack of depth, are the problem. What really bothers me is the hypocrisy and the entitlement. With how much emphasis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:02 AM
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But muh bodily autonomy! This seems like a self-inflicted problem. https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/paper/deserted-us-militarys-sexual-assault-crisis-cost-war On average, over the course of the war in Afghanistan, 24 percent of active-duty women and 1.9 percent of active-duty men experienced sexual assault. Men are less likely be raped by their fellow soldiers than women are. Maybe people would be more supportive of adding women to the draft if their fellow soldiers didn't rape them so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:26 AM
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I was talking about this source, that you posted earlier in this thread, not your garbage "thread within a thread" source. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ six percent There's also the 10% of primary female breadwinners. Guess what? Men are still the lazy douchebags. Let's crunch the numbers: Primary female breadwinner: 42.0 hours work, 6.4 hours childcare, 4.8 hours chores Her husband: 40.4 work hour…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:06 PM
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Even your own source illustrates how lazy men are. Time spent on paid work and childcare and chores for each demographic: Sole male breadwinner: 43.9 hours work, 4.5 hours childcare, 1.4 hours chores SAHM: zero hours work, 14.1 hours childcare. 10.5 hours chores Egalitarian men: 44.3 hours worked, 9.0 hours on childcare, 2.2 hours on chores Egalitarian women: 40.8 hours worked, 12.2 on childcare, 5.1 on chores Egalitarian women only work about 3.5 fewer hours at work, but they do 6 hours more ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:16 PM
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“What if she said yes, but it was an answer to a question I asked earlier?” Men perfectly understand consent. They are deliberately obtuse and feign confusion in an attempt to reframe a deliberate boundary violation as an innocent mistake. Sexual abusers rely on this ambiguity in order to be given the benefit of the doubt. "How was l supposed to know she didn't want to get punched in the face? No one told me." Thus the burden of proof shifts to the women, who now has her actions questioned and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:17 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Your googling sucks. Pew Research doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:40 AM
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That's not what feminism objects to. Feminism is about choice. If a woman agrees to be a SAHM, knowing full well all the downsides of being financially dependent on a man, how detrimental it is to her career, how men depend on her labor, while devaluing it at the same time etc., feminists wouldn't object to that. What feminism objects to is how the trad wife lifestyle deliberately misleads prospective SAHMs by hiding or downplaying the downsides of being a SAHM. If the tradwife movement had any …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:04 AM
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Of course. Women have the responsibility to go into someone else's subconscious and figure out their exact motivations and intentions, regardless of what they say. Men can't be held accountable for lying. Their sexual pleasure trumps everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:40 AM
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And still we see a good number of women clinging tightly to exactly the man who has declared from get go that he doesn’t want relationship No, that doesn't make any sense. Why would a woman who wants blueberries stay with a man who told her straight out that he doesn’t have any blueberries? She would move onto a guy who has blueberries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:19 AM
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Holy shit, all you women jump to he was lying Yeah, because he lied. If a woman wants commitment and a man doesn't want commitment and told her the truth, she would have moved onto someone else. Why would a woman, who clearly wants commitment, sleep with a guy who doesn't want to commit? That doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:02 AM
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The mental gymnastics it takes to achieve that is baffling. Where are the mental gymnastics here? If he told her straight out that he's casual, she would have never dated him. Logically, the miscommunication is due to one party lying here. Obviously, it's the man who lied about wanting commitment to extract sex from a woman who only would sleep with him in a committed relationship. It wouldn't make sense for the woman to lie. What could she possibly have to lie about? That she wanted casual sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:46 AM
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Nah. Casual should mean casual. Regular sex, exclusive companionship and unpaid labor are commitment-level benefits, not casual-level benefits. Men who don't want commitment shouldn't get them. In fact, why are these men even dating anyway? They should stay single, go on the apps for casual sex and find other women who don't want commitment. So why don't these casual men find casual women to date, where there's crystal clear communication and both parties agree that there is zero commitment? Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:28 AM
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It doesn’t show fathers ‘gave up’ custody. It often reflects mutual agreements, work schedules, finances, or the child’s existing routine. I'm pretty sure men agreed to no custody, considering that women outnumber men 5 to 1 primary custodial arrangements. Or was that another uneducated feminazi conspiracy to steal their kids from them? Likewise, claiming ‘27% of men abandon their children’ is a different issue entirely and doesn’t establish that fathers never seek custody and 27% is hardly any …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:43 AM
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I agree with you in principle, but l draw the line at requiring the government step in. The problem, as usual, is that fathers are lazy douchebags who don't do their fair share of chores or childcare. If men were responsible parents who didn't abuse the financial dependence SAHMs have on their husbands, we wouldn't need government intervention or even the idea of unionizing. It would be fine if men didn't want kids because they didn't want to do the work, but that's not the case. Men are egotist…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:28 AM
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Don’t be shocked when Dad files for primary custody and child support based on abandonment. With 91% of custody arrangements where dad willingly gives up custody, with 27% of men completely abandoning their children after divorce and with men doing as little childcare as possible, whether they be the sole or primary breadwinner, egalitarian or SAHDs (with the numbers to prove it) we aren't too worried about that. The only time divorced dads do any Court filings for custody or childcare is when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:05 AM
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Oh my god. Are you still on that?! Have you considered not being ugly and old and yet somehow entitled to dating young and beautiful women by buying their affection? God forbid you date someone of similar age and attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:57 PM
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That's because you're mixing up sole male breadwinners and egalitarian marriages. I expect sole male breadwinners to do fewer chores and childcare because they're at work for 60 hours a week. Not egalitarian men. Egalitarian husbands are just lazy and entitled as sole male breadwinners at home but the difference is that egalitarian men haven't earned that right. That's the problem. Egalitarian men only 3.1 more hours per week than their wives, but have 3.6 more hours of leisure time. The wife wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:03 AM
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How is this a generalization? What part of that premise is wrong? It's been well-documented that men have fewer social support networks because they do zero kinkeeping and women view this as a red flag, because this is just more unpaid work they'll have to take on. Just because the statement makes men uncomfortable with their laziness and lack of initiative, doesn't make it untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:12 AM
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Girls simply have better social circles because they are girls, not because guys are dysfunctional or socially inept Men have fewer social support networks precisely because they are dysfunctional and socially inept. Women have larger networks because they go out and do the kinkeeping work to build them. There's no social support sky fairy that drops a group of friends on women, while ignoring the men. That's what women are doing when they're remembering to call people on their birthdays, making…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:07 AM
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"I wanna be treated like a princess". Nah, that's for men who only bring in half the income but avoid as many household chores as possible. Princesses are also men who want children but do about 20% of the work it takes to raise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:34 AM
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Men don't even like other men. Now they know how women feel. They think in terms of how useful a person is to them and like that person is optional. Have they tried being less transactional and calculating? They won't even do volunteer work unless there's something in it for them, which is why they whine when sex doesn't immediately fall into their lap when they do something nice for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:25 AM
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Nothing about women's behavior is self-centered, because this is some sort of reactionary, knee-jerk "no, u" insult towards women. God, men are still lazy and boring, even with their comebacks. If men projected any harder, we'd be able to see The Odyssey off their shiny foreheads. If women were that awful, then why do men still want them? Women know men are lazy and narcissistic and unlike men, we have the numbers to prove it. https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/more-women-choose-single-marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:29 AM
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like providing financial Men don't provide. 78% of women have their own full-time jobs where they bring home at least half or more of the household income. emotional stability Men don't provide any emotional support to anyone. They don't listen, they talk over women and interrupt women more than than they interrupt men. The only emotional support woman get is from other women. fixing things Yeah, your once-a-never chores, like yard work half the year or garbage, that takes two seconds. Then you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:47 PM
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And none of it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:18 PM
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So men have the ability to control women into doing whatever men want as we have seen in history. Yeah, it's called rape and violence or the threat of rape and violence because men use their size and strength to commit crimes and subjugate women. If they have the ability to do so, and by your statement of them wanting to do so. What exactly is stopping them from doing it? So why hasn't it been done already? What do you think the patriarchy was? An entire belief system that systematically oppress…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:14 PM
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The average man in the US has $6-8k in their savings account. What gold is there to dig besides their ugly cargo shorts and hole-filled underwear? Get your gold first. Then you can worry about the digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:04 PM
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Since OP stated he runs a business I didn't even think about this angle. Hey OP, your product sucks because it sits on the couch all night after work, eats a ton of food and creates more work than it's worth. That's why no one wants it and men have to hire MLM marketers to use high pressure sales tactics to defraud women because your product is essentially worthless and has a high rate of return (women initiated divorces). Women, on the other hand, are the equivalent of a PS5 Pro, which is in de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:44 PM
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It's not circular logic. Men have no value in relationships. They don't do very much except hog all the leisure time while delegating all unpaid labor to their wives. Just because men refuse to accept how lazy and self-centered they are, does not mean that it is circular logic. It makes perfect sense if you just think about it. Men have this collective narcissism, where they are truly unable to examine and reflect on their poor behavior, which is why they commit so many crimes. They also seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:27 PM
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(which, unlike the mothers, they have no ability/ right to terminate) Yes. Because they don't carry the baby, they have the choice of just abandoning the women, which they do so, frequently. I wish women could avoid unintended pregnancies just by simply being more careful with where her eggs end up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:31 AM
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Yes. Why is the parenting bar so low for men? Because childcare is boring, unpaid work that men delegate to women, so they can spend another 25.2 hours on the couch this week, besides the 5.1 hours of childcare, where they can't ignore them. Men spend more time sleeping one day per week than they do with their kids for the entire week. To complicate things, men frequently commit horrible acts, like raping children: https://cwrp.ca/publications/exploring-taboos-comparing-male-and-female-perpetrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:23 AM
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sugar dating has always been a place for unattractive men to pay large sums of money in order to compensate for the lack of physical attractiveness but now American dating/relations/etc has become such crap that you see men being expected to pay up and be extremely attractive. So your complaint is that women have raised their standards even higher to the point where men have to be attractive and wealthy, instead of remaining fat, ugly slobs who can buy their way into relationships with beautiful…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:13 AM
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You can just ignore her, like how men avoid household chores and their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:57 AM
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If the woman is responsible for her own orgasm because men climax and pass out, then why bother being in a relationship, if she needs to take matters into her own hands? Men aren't responsible for providing. They're on the couch for 25.2 hours per week, while doing as little chores and childcare as possible. Then he has a coin flip's chance of making her orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:31 AM
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This is not a double standard. No one here knows what a double standard is. He feels entitlement to sex because he did something nice for her. She feels entitlement to commitment because she did commitment-level stuff. If it's casual, keep it casual. If he had any integrity, he'd refuse the commitment-level benefits and remind her that he's here for a good time, not a long time. But he didn't, did he? He was happy to accept them, while not committing until she smartened up and broke it off. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:53 AM
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"How does any single thing, and any time, make any shred of sense if it was all going nowhere?" I had put in what felt like so much effort, and it was all for naught. So he put in his kindness coins in the vending machine and got pissed that sex didn't come out. what I received from women on social media was a general consensus that I was the most reprehensible human alive for daring to think anything was coming my way. Our mistake. So it was her pressuring you for sex after she did something ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:38 AM
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That's why we have statistics, so we can calculate, to the minute, how lazy men are. When the average man spends 25.2 hours playing video games and 1.9 hours on housework, they aren't exactly washing the dishes now, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:11 AM
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If these are the guys getting picked instead of the ones who do end up doing chores. that says a lot more about women’s choices. Yes, that women don't want lazy bums for partners who expect women to clean up after them. Basically if doing dishes made women wet in the first place we’d have a very very different dating landscape then we have today. Yeah, so why don't men do it? Because they're lazy and it's an unpaid chore that requires work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:29 PM
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Nah, statistical data on lesbians only counts when it's used as a diversion from their responsibility in intimate partner violence and divorcing rates, not orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:48 PM
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23% less likely to be ticketed, 55% less likely to be arrested, and 76% less likely to be searched at traffic stops Yes, because women are better drivers that take fewer risks than men, not because of some government mandate to go easy on women because of DEI initiatives. This is a consequence of men being awful, risky drivers that speed. Besides crime rates, we also have a separate source that confirm what horrible drivers men are: Insurance rates. Men have sky-high insurance rates compared to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 09:38 PM
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Men expect relationships like how they expect their chores to be done: For someone else to do the work while they benefit and then whine about life is unfair when they don't get it. Dating is inherently unfair to men, as it should be. It is the natural consequence of men leeching off women. Men provide zero benefit to women. They don't provide, they don't do chores or childcare and create more work for women. A husband adds an extra 7 hours worth of labor to a woman when she gets married. If men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:56 PM
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All my numbers are taken from statistical data. Just because I'm tired of quoting the source doesn't make it any less valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:49 AM
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You didn't prove anything. All your research proved was that sole female breadwinners women make 85% of household financial decisions. It doesn't have anything to do with how their assets are divided in the event of divorce. Of what bearing does this have on the 10 fewer hours of work a SAHD does compared to a SAHM?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:46 AM
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statistical parity It's easy to chalk it up to a "rounding error" or dismiss the extra hours of unpaid work as just "a few hours per week" when it's men who always benefit and consistently leave women with the short bag. If the extra work is nothing, then men can starting making up the difference and enjoy fewer hours of leisure time than the 25.2 hours per week they already do enjoy. After all, it's nothing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:41 AM
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Bad-faith argument. Just kidding. I think men started stealing it from me with their reactionary "No, u" arguments and insults, without actually understanding what that entails. That happens when you argue with uneducated men with the arrogance to think their opinions are just as good as research and statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:27 AM
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That just means they make 85% of the financial decisions. That doesn't mean they keep 85% of the money. Then they gotta pay alimony to a guy who works 10 fewer hours per week than the average SAHM. 10 × 52 weeks = 520 extra hours of unpaid work SAHDs don't do. So not only do the women have to pay alimony like the average sole male breadwinner, they're also getting ripped off doing an extra 520 hours worth of chores and childcare than the average sole male breadwinner, who does none of that. Is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:18 AM
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Because that takes work. And we know what men do with unpaid work he can't delegate to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:24 AM
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No. Women who exploit power imbalances in any situation are creepy and no self-respecting woman would ever support them. Men, on the hand, bend over backwards to seek and exploit these types of relationships, while defending the practice and grooming other men and women to accept these relationships as normal. No, I needed to get comfortable with women who had teenaged kids and had been in and out of relationships for 25+ years. Relax, these women don't want you either. possibility of piggybacki…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:22 AM
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The moment war knocks on the door, women flee Well, there is the issue of rape by their own fellow soldiers. Have these men considered commiting fewer rapes? We'd probably get more women drafted if men weren't utterly narcissistic and devoid of compassion and empathy and could stop selfishly forcing themselves on women for their own sexual pleasure. Women have killed about a billion of their ki... by abortion in the last 30 years, while about 500 million people(not ki..., just people overall) ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:23 AM
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I'm convinced that no Red Piller (or man in general) actually knows what a double standard is. That's why they make terrible analogies for their stupid conclusions. Learn what a double standard is. Not one of you has been able to use it in the proper context. If men criticize older men for dating younger women, the response is often that the woman "knows what they're doing" So? There's nothing contradictory or hypocritical about this. The younger women and older man are in different positions of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:07 PM
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For all men hate DEI, they sure love their government-mandated DEI pity date quota. "But but but, he deserves a chance!" No, he doesn't. "Well, we gave those feminists equality, men should also get equality in dating." Yeah, because forcing men to finally allow women the right to have their own credit cards and bank accounts is the same as forcing some women to date men they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:46 PM
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What a surprise! The demographic that rates "having children" as the top life goal (conservative men) is the demographic that does the least amount of childcare. Yeah, I'd have 4 kids too if all l had to do was ejaculate and nothing else. Men hog up the leisure time, then do as little childcare as possible. Men have 25.2 hours of leisure time and 5.1 hours of childcare. Women have 21.6 hours of leisure time and 6.9 hours of childcare. That's a 5 to 1 ratio for men. On any given day, he has a 5 t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:33 PM
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contribute on average the same amount of hours to the household (i.e. paid work + domestic work) or slightly more Nope. In egalitarian couples, men do not. I wouldn't say it if l couldn't prove it because that's what men do. Men work an extra 3.1 hours of paid work per week but they are compensated with an extra 3.6 hours of leisure time than the women. Women work 3.1 fewer work hours but they work more unpaid hours and more to make up for it. Women do an extra 1.4 hours unpaid labor per week, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 09:45 AM
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None of this evolutionary psychology explains anything. Women are hypergamous because they have to be. Statistics have shown that women will contribute their fair share and do chores, household duties and childcare in every situation. When given employment opportunities, they also contribute financially, as 78% of women have full-time jobs. They are also more likely to be thinner and more attractive than men. No one has to tell women to do anything. They understand the assignment. Men have the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:31 AM
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Yeah, but where is the hypocrisy? Decentering men means they refuse to date them. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's a free-for-all for men that makes them immune to criticism. What does one have to do with the other? Men still shove themselves into women's lives uninvited by harassing them and committing crimes against them. Women are still entitled to criticize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:56 AM
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If a large part of your personality is how much you don’t like men, you’re still male centered. Men are still at the front of your mind, just negatively instead of positively. Yeah, this isn't a celebrity/fan relationship where parasocial fans of a star turn into parasocial haters. They could just block the star, whereas men shove themselves into women's lives uninvited by harassing them and committing crimes against them. Also, stars don't demand attention, attraction and unpaid work, like men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:54 AM
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Women aren't unpaid rehab centers for men. There's no manic pixie dream girl coming to save them, nor should there be. Only men are entitled to think that someone is willing to do all that unpaid work for them, when they can't even be bothered to do that work for themselves. Men need to get their lives in order before they date or they shouldn't be dating at all because they make awful partners. I believe if some hypothetical women came into a struggling man’s life he’d shape up pretty well. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:09 AM
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Yes. Because women aren't aggressive and don't sexually harass their coworkers like men are aggressive and sexually harass their coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:09 AM
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calling out that double standard by pointing out "you say you are attracted to kind caring smart men like me, but you don't give me any attention, and you are clearly attracted to the tall strong rich assholes, what gives? That's not a double standard. Everyone is entitled to baseline standard of civility and politeness. No one is entitled to attention or attraction. She can talk to all the attractive men and ignore all the unattractive men she wants, just like men can talk to all the attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:06 AM
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I agree. I also don't want some 20 year old who know nothing about nothing mansplaining the patriarchy, abortion and the draft. Being a good person, doing your chores and not expecting women be unpaid rehab centers for men is timeless advice that will always be relevant. Men have always been lazy and exploitative of women. The only difference is, in the past, women just had to accept it. Now they don't and they're staying away in droves. You mean you don't want a lazy partner that works but does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:26 AM
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Yeah, you could have. But you didn't. We have a 1 in a million chance of getting hit by lightning. The only thing that happens less is men cleaning their own bathrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:22 PM
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They would be, if their own coworkers didn't constantly try to sexually harass them. military Or rape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:12 PM
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Women don't have a problem with men not protecting them. As usual, women are mostly protected by other women. What we have a problem with, is that men use the excuse of "protection" an an excuse to do zero chores and childcare as part of the patriarchal compact. For men's protection, all women have to do is cook and clean up after menchildren forever? Sign me up never. Has there ever been a period in time where men aren't trying scam more unpaid labor from women? God forbid men miss their quota …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:04 AM
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Pretending long enough to smash is easy. And men wonder why everyone hates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:33 AM
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If you're going to leave, then do it already. You don't need to announce your exit to the fandom. No one cares. "Oh, no. Guys. Stop it. Don't leave. What will we do with all this free time not spent on cooking and cleaning up after lazy, underperforming partners?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:21 AM
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The men cant have sex without women's approval. 🤣 When the hell did men ever care about getting woman's approval for sex? Yeah, I'm sure men were huge advocates of consentual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:54 AM
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Of couse, the solution to the single mother issue is to create barriers to prevent women from leaving terrible, unequal relationships with lazy deadbeats or manipulate women into staying by blaming the women for any faults or shortcomings of her children. It's never the lazy deadbeat's fault that he refuses to stop being a lazy deadbeat. 27% of men abandon their children after divorce. But it's those evil feminazi judges keeping men away from their kids, not their love of sitting on the couch pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:47 AM
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“it couldn’t possibly be me” post. Of course not. Literally everything and everyone else is wrong. Except me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:27 AM
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Committed by a very small minority of men And yet we don't see a corresponding small number of women committing crimes on a similar scale. Men are the only immutable group in society for which this thinking, which is very bigoted, is somehow allowed. Yeah, maybe because men did everything? No, let's arrest the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:19 AM
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seriously accuse 50% of the world's population of being manchildren I did. With the statistics to back me up. Boo hoo. The leech won't do any work to shake the "leech" label but gets indignant about being called a leech. Oh, my mistake. Men make great partners. There's a line-up of attractive women waiting to date them and men are drowning in choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:14 AM
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Yeah, like we just picked men out of a hat to criticize. Have men tried not being lazy menchildren that women refuse to take care of? God forbid men cook a meal or clean the bathroom, instead of sitting one more hour on the couch, like they usually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:44 PM
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Some see marriage as an important life goal, while others see it as optional or undesirable. There is no miscommunication here. If men don't want marriage, then men aren't entitled to any benefits of marriage, like regular sex, exclusive companionship and unpaid labor done on their behalf. Men like this should not be dating at all. Stay single and go on the apps for casual sex. while young men are becoming relatively more conservative. What causes this remain debatable We know why. The left tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:41 PM
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Only men have the privilege of having crazy exes. There is a reason that family annihilators are 91-95% men. Women lack the extreme narcissism and entitlement to take someone else's life, that men possess in spades. When a woman has a crazy ex, she usually ends up dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:13 PM
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You see a lot of stated emphasis on emotional intelligence, being vulnerable, being well-educated about the current world, caring about other people, etc Men should be doing this regardless because it's the right thing to do, not because it might get men a few more dates. If this is a hardship for men, might l suggest they stop dating? No woman wants a narcissist for a partner and they certainly don't want men faking the above qualities to get a date. Men are self-centered and selfish enough. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:05 PM
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women have a legion of simps, always surrounded by men Men call it hoeflation to degrade women, but really, the simps are the union scabs driving up hoeflation. If men could cooperate, like in the Prisoner's Dilemma and collectively stop thirsting over women, hoeflation would stabilize, and women would be forced to lower their standards. But because men are selfish and are primarily focused on their own needs, as some men are lonelier than others, this guarantees that a strike breaker simp will …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:05 PM
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then why are you insulting foreign women from poor countries by calling them gold diggers We aren't. I would never insult a woman who felt the need to engage in survival prostitution. The men who take advantage of it, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:04 AM
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not equal accountability? Accountability for what, though? No man has ever been about to articulate it. What do women need to accountable for?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:29 AM
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So suddenly men care about lesbians, but only in the context of using them as diversion from their own abusiveness and criminality in heterosexual relationships. Also, woman vs. woman is a fair fight because they're pretty much in the same weight class. The only fights men pick are against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:08 AM
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women have always been somewhat scared and unsure about men Couldn't possibly be all the abuse, rape and murder men commit against women, that women don't commit against men. taking their children Where is your research on this? Don't make assumptions without evidence. 91% of custody arrangements are agreed upon between the parents. The judge just approves it. Men need to ask for custody. The reason they don't is because they don't want to care for their own kids, as evidenced by how little chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:18 AM
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Can men go one day without blaming some woman for their shortcomings ?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:37 AM
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That's fine. Just don't abuse the women. Studies show foreign spouses face high rates of emotional, financial, or physical abuse. Like men usually do. Men who need to commodify relationships are terrible people. Men probably shouldn't advertise the fact some of them are so pathetic, they need abject poverty as a wingman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:31 AM
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What's your point? Im writing this because I am tired of reading this same old narrative of hyperagency and meritocracy that is seemingly only applied to dating. Oh, l get it. Since children are affected by adverse childhoods and chaotic, low socio-economic status, and benefit greatly from social programs like WIC and Headstart, therefore, the government should similarly assign men government issued wives or socially pressure women date men they don't want to. Yeah, no. Leave it to men to twist …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:10 AM
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Obese and overweight men trying to fatsplain obesity to me. Fat men aren't fat, they're all undercover bodybuilders cultivating mass. Only fat women are fat. Because the 2% of bodybuilders skews the BMI, here's another fat fact men can't run away from: neck size. As a result, a massive 50% of all adult men in the United States have a neck size of 15.7 inches (40 cm) or greater. Guess what. Still obese, no matter how much men try to sugar coat it, because they'll eat that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:16 PM
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You really don't think any men have redeemable qualities about them? They do, but it's buried under much more prominent irredeemable qualities. It's not a woman's job to mine slag looking for gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:56 PM
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Guys who hate women but still have desirable physical and financial traits are able to mask their hatred with some charisma and get women to have sex with them Women aren't a monolith. Male-centered women who date terrible men to their own detriment don't speak for me. They aint gonna stop just because you told them. Pack in it, ladies. Great logic here. Men keep committing crimes despite all the laws we pass. Better stop passing laws, l guess. Because it's clearly not working. Therefore, we sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:47 PM
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My mistake. No, men are warm, empathetic and selfless. Look at all the volunteer work they do and all the crimes they don't commit. Oh, no wait. That's the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:12 PM
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“love unconditionally” (for sex) like men do I want to slap Chris Rock for saying this garbage. Men are the most transactional and conditional people on the face of the Earth. Look at the men subs posting about what they like about women. The top comment is almost always "Look at all this stuff she does for me". Nothing about her personality, her humor etc. They couldn't care less. But why should they? She's just an unpaid worker who occasionally has sex with them. The reason why men aren't valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:56 PM
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Most women can't cook Women cook 9 meals to men's 4. Men enjoy an extra 3.6 hours of leisure time than the women. If that's nothing, then maybe men can sit one fewer hour on the couch and cook a few more meals once in a while? don't do much maintenance, so no. Maintenance of what? The garbage that takes 2 minutes, once a week? Changing the air filter that takes 5 minutes, twice a year? Or that 10 whole hours of car care per year? Or the lawn mowing that you don't do during the winter. What other…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:00 AM
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Are we expecting men to be rational and have integrity? Men only care if men are affected. If men are the perpetrators, other men couldn't care less, which explains the 3 threads on paternity fraud, despite a 1-4% chance of happening but zero threads on outstanding child support, which is the same problem in reverse and affects 54% of cases, of which the offenders are mainly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:48 AM
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any accountability from women Accountability for what? Are women obligated to accept dates from men who ask out every women in 5-block radius or blow up their friend group by making it awkward by hitting on every available woman? On women overrating themselves I'm pretty sure the topic was about men overrating themselves due to their egomaniacial narcissism and seeing mutual attraction in female friends even when there wasn't any, then crashing and burning when they get rejected because they mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:37 AM
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But l am rationally discussing issues. What's the problem with cutting through the garbage men say? If men actually cherished women, instead of pretending to, they wouldn't stick them with all the grunt work in a relationship and reward women they love with low-effort and awful sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:54 AM
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how clearly bitter and delusional you are, But still not bitter and delusional enough to complain about being friendzoned and be willing to burn bridges for the possibility of sex. Men mimic the behavior of bots and scammers by wanting a relationship but expending as little effort as possible, and then get mad when people reject them, like they do with bots and scammers. It's almost as if actions have consequences. "overrate themselves on their attractiveness due to their collective narcissism" …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:56 PM
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feminism broke is ability for both sides to contribute something to make a relationship work, not just transactionally but in terms of the romance itself. The only thing feminism broke is the ability of men to trap women into domestic slavery. Nowadays, men have to be both seductive and chivalrous. No. Women don't want that crap. What women want is for men to do more unpaid chores, household duties and childcare. What is chivalry? A combination of strength and politeness. What are chores and chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:25 PM
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So now they can stop complaining about women and trying to tell them how to live their live It's like leaving a fandom but feeling the need to announce it so that women will say "No! We need you!". Except the reality is that no one cares and wishes that men left faster, with less whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:57 PM
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Men are not taught what men being mistreated or taken advantage of even looks like. And if they are, they're not taught to do anything about it. Usually because men are the ones more likely to mistreat and take advantage of others. They lack insight and introspection of their behavior because of their entitlement and malignant narcissism. It's certainly not the men complaining about the chore imbalance or disappointing sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:51 PM
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There's a reason why we hear about men being friendzoned more than women. Because they hit on every woman on a 5-block radius without any regard to compatibility, shared interests and values and then wonder why they get rejected. Men's company is worthless and has no value because men devalue it. Desperation is the smelliest cologne. You shouldn't be hitting on the friend if there's no mutual attraction. If she was interested, she would have said yes. If men get rejected, then they misread the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:31 PM
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So the US is suddenly a nation of bodybuilders? Only 2% of the US population are bodybuilders. Even if we did a generous 1-to-1 ratio, that's still 75% of men who are obese and overweight due to their sloth and gluttony and still a 6% chance of being fatter than the women they criticize, than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:07 PM
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You've been called out on reposting this nonsense even by people who agree with your position generally. The only people who have called me out are lazy and defensive men who are defensive about their laziness. "Work hours" that you used to land on 3.1 hours estimate already include chores. Nope. Stop putting your thumb on the scale. The data is specifically broken down into paid work, leisure time, childcare and household chores, so men can't gaslight women on how little they do. the latter sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:01 PM
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There is also a weird standard where doing activities to indirectly find dates is criticized. Like men are discouraged to volunteer, go to a dance class, or join a run club in order to find dates. Because the world doesn't revolve around men. The group doesn't want you there if you have zero interest in the activity and are there for the sole purpose of harassing the women. God forbid men show consideration for anyone but themselves, for once. This, in a nutshell, is why women don't like men. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:30 PM
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That's great. If that's nothing, then men should do it. Because only men work 3 more hours and use that as an excuse to do nothing at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:06 PM
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Yes, they do 3.1 more hours of paid work, but they are compensated with 3.6 more hours of leisure time than women. Women work 3.1 fewer hours than men but do 3.1 more hours of unpaid work than men to make up for the deficit. Then tack on another 1.4 hours a week on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:13 PM
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have low standards when it comes to women (including the kind of behaviour and attitude they're willing to put up with from women). Men can afford to have low standards because he isn't likely to get ripped off. It's like shopping at Costco. He may not have much selection, but whatever product he buys from them is likely to be good because they listen to member complaints and do tons of research. This actually works out great for women though because it gives them many options and allows them to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:46 AM
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don't have to deal with the realities of living with a man as a romantic partner Yeah, give me that roommate that only pays for half and avoids as many chores, duties and childcare as humanly possible. You work 3.1 fewer hours than this roommate, but you do your 3.1 hours of unpaid labor to make up for it, and then add another 1.4 hours per week of more chores on top of that! Your roommate sits on the couch enjoying an extra 3.6 hours of leisure time per week more than you. He may work 3.1 hours…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:25 AM
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Cope and sour grapes. Men don't want women because women won't have them. Neither would l, if l was saddled with 80% of the unpaid work, while having to contribute 50/50. Reversing the genders doesn't actually work because men don't provide any value to women. "Look at the extra chores, household duties and childcare I miss doing", said no woman ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:14 AM
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Men don't wanna date fatties, after all. You'd think they'd be more fit. Instead, men are the overweight and obese hypocrites more likely to be fat (77%) than the women (69%) they criticize. Fitness standards are for women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:08 AM
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We don’t teach them household skills. Nobody taught the boys to play video games or watch sports on the couch all day either but they'll do it. Where's your excuse now? We don’t teach them to be self-aware - about their appearance, about their own emotions, about their relationships. Girls learn all these things. Girls have to do these things because nobody else will. Boys need to be paid to brush their teeth and take a shower. Otherwise, they won't do it. Comparing unpaid chores and character b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:56 AM
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it is less socially acceptable for a man to talk about this to his irl friends The gender that provides the least amount of social support to other people has nobody to talk to. Seems like natural consequences to me. If women suck so much at social support, then why don't men just talk to other men? Because one of them actually has to set his needs aside for someone else's benefit, be empathetic and listen. This is unpaid work that men expect from women, but the issue is that men don't reciproca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:36 AM
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When a woman is single, she is out there starting a pottery class, traveling, getting a promotion, or just enjoying not having to share her snacks. She is thriving. She has a life. Like a slave freed from bondage and is allowed to control her own destiny for the first time in history and do whenever the hell she wants to do, forever. It is like they think they are the first person in human history to spend a Friday night without a romantic partner, and they have to announce it to the world like …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:15 AM
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Nope. And we have the statistics and calculations to prove it. Men work 3.1 more hours than women per week but they are also compensated by having much more leisure time (3.6 hours per week) than women. Men love trotting out the work statistic, not so much on the leisure time. I wonder why? If leisure time is nothing, then men and women should have the same leisure time. But women don't. Because it isn't nothing. Men will deny it just to get out of doing more chores. Men: 5.1 (childcare) + 1.9 (…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:18 AM
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Moving isn't once-in-a-lifetime either. Renters move every year or two on average. Framing it as a rare event assumes a stability a lot of people don't have. which might be worth noticing. The average person moves 11 times in their lifetime. 11 x 5 hours is 55 hours lifetime. The average woman does 87 hours of laundry per year. 40 years x 87 hours is 3480 hours lifetime. Guess what. Still short. And still a shitty deal for women. women serve less time than men for the same crime, and are less li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:13 AM
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Terrible analogy. help a woman move This is a once-a-lifetime chore that most people will not ask men to do, as they hire movers. Compare that with the chores that men expect women to do, like clean the bathroom. Helping someone move is a 5-hour chore that will never happen, while the average woman spends 87 hours per year just on laundry. Given the choice, I'd gladly do the 5-hour chore once if it means l can sit on the couch, while someone else does my laundry forever. pay for the date An occa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:13 AM
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First, the guy is looking for short term. Maybe it’s just America Why the hell are these men even dating? Stay single and go on the apps for casual sex. No good woman wants your short-term shenanigans and the woman who are willing to go short-term aren't attractive. but most women aren’t interested in short term. Women provide regular sex, exclusive companionship and unpaid labor. That should only be given in a committed relationship, not short-term relationships, where that effort isn't recipro…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:00 PM
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Such as? Elaborate They never do. Just like the elusive "Women lack accountability". What? What do women lack accountability on? Bringing home half the income? Doing more than their fair share of the household chores and childcare, so her husband can sit an extra 3.6 hours on the couch every week doing nothing? Planning birthday parties, remembering anniversaries? Volunteer work? Providing emotional support? Being a single mother to a child whose father abandoned them? Stop using “go be gay” as …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:55 PM
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Women dont value dick like men value pussy Dick is abundant and low value. Men won't do the unpaid work to make woman orgasm. Men are terrible at sex with women. It's just alot of guys dont care about being immature emotionally unstable whiny parasite Men have no problems being an emotional burden that doesn't provide emotional support in return. They also don't care about the chore burden or the childcare burden. They could provide but now want 50/50. 50% of the expenses but we do 80% of the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:24 PM
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No matter, what financial difficulty we have, we never climb down from our standards, you wont see much of us doing only fans etc. Then men can't claim that women have an advantage over men with sex work. Sex work is a harrowing profession, the dangers of which men gloss over because of their male privilege. Besides there are people like "bonnie Blue" No one claims her. Stop watching her. Sex work is another underground economy that contributes tax dollars to our community. But the social cost i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:22 AM
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I think you can argue that that's pretty close to even It's not. I would expect in unequal earning couples that whoever does less paid work does more unpaid work, and vice versa. Yes, men do work 3.1 extra hours of paid work per week, but they are also compensated with 3.6 extra hours of leisure time. Women work 3.1 fewer work hours, but they have 3.6 fewer hours of leisure time. How does that happen? Because men use their work as an excuse to steal more leisure time and avoid their fair of chor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 10:45 AM
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The guy made his intentions very clear: he doesn’t want to pursue anything further unless sex is on the table before continuing. I’m going to repeat that again. But women don't get mutual benefit from sex, though. Orgasmless sex is just another unpaid chore women have to perform. Heterosexual women orgasm the least and heterosexual men are responsible. If men did the unpaid chore to make her orgasm, there wouldn't be any problems. But they don't. He is not pursuing anything unless sex is given u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:07 AM
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Women don't have a problem with men not being the providers, as 78% of women have full-time jobs. What we do have a problem with, is that men stick women with the majority of household chores and childcare as if he is the provider. No one expects men to be providers. What we expect is that men do more chores and watch their kids. If you don't want to watch your kid or do more chores, then stay single, stink and starve in your hovel with your camp chair and a PS5. No one wants a leech for a partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:57 AM
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They attract gold diggers, partners who fake initial intimacy to ensnare them, devoid of genuine attraction. Men use their wealth to attract a woman way out of his league. After they have secured a relationship, these women will use the man's resources to sleep with guys they find truly attractive. Then whine when a woman out of his league starts acting like a woman out of his league. told her this is not cool because, after all, She's young and beautiful. She can do whatever the hell she wants.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:15 AM
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Just following your instructions. I whined about oppression? Damn must have missed that, can you show me where? It also wasn't me that started it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:48 AM
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I don't have an exact timeline but it was after your crying about Daryl but before your complaining about incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:34 AM
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You needed your beauty sleep so you could whine about oppression. 4026 isn't that bad. It only feels like an eternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:05 AM
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Ya, you passed out during orientation. But your father, his father, his father and his father were wide awake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:47 AM
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So tired of hearing about power imbalances. Of course, when the power imbalance just happens to be in men's favor. Women actively seek men who are better than them in every way. So because women date men who are equal or above them, men are entitled to exploit the living conditions of 3rd world countries to find women? What kind of backwards logic is this? When women can't find suitable men to date, they just stop dating. They don't export themselves en masse to 3rd world countries and exploit a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:40 AM
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men don't give two shits bout how much money a woman makes Oh really? Because they suddenly care when they have to pay alimony. Men can't have it both ways. They can't ignore a woman's employment status and then whine about alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:06 AM
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This is hard to understand as men we don't have a functional equivalent we can compare it to understand it. You do. It's called chore-digging, where you expect women to do your unpaid chores, while not doing any yourself. Except you don't provide either, as 78% of women have their own full-time jobs. Or how single fathers expect single women to help them raise children that don't belong to her, while single men are excused from raising another man's kids. Or when men live longer lives when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:00 AM
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Does the oppression of women in the past, justify oppressing innocent men in the future who had absolutely nothing to do with the oppression of women? So now oppression sucks? Where was this attitude for the past 2000 years? You couldn't figure it out until now? And you only did so once it wasn't just the men doing all the oppressing? Have your descendants get back to mine in 4026. Then we will call it even.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:59 PM
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Men are more visual They're also more likely to be fatter than the women they criticize, but the patriarchy allows them to be shallow hypocrites because men invent ridiculous justifications for them, while criticizing the women, even though the women has earned more of a right to be "visual' than the men have. A hot girl While not being hot themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:50 PM
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When women do it, it is logical because they're more likely to thinner than the men. When do it, they're hypocrites because they're more likely to be fatter than the women they criticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:44 PM
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It's from the National Institute of Health: Figures indicate that roughly 77.1% of American men carry excess weight compared to 69.4% of American women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:39 PM
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Because women have earned it. That's the difference. There are fewer fat women that there are fat men around in the US. If an 8% discrepancy is nothing, these 8% men need to go on a diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:34 PM
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Women find 80 percent of men unattractive. Can you blame them? 77% of men in the US are either overweight or obese. But only men make excuses for other men's shallowness by calling them "visual creatures". However, that weight distribution doesn't go in reverse. 69% of women are overweight or obese. In other words, most men would pursue 80 percent of women, is my opinion. That's because there's an 8% point discrepancy in men's favor, which means there's more attractive women around for men than …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:27 PM
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Yours is a literal "no, u" argument. The average man (77%) is more likely to be fat than the average woman (69%) is. So not only are men shallow, they're also fat hypocrites. Diets and gym discipline apply to women only, while men are allowed to guzzle beer and glizzies on the couch because only men are allowed to be visual creatures. Women, on the other hand, earned the right to be shallow, as they are more likely to be thinner and more attractive than the average man. However, they are pressur…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:50 PM
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I have no problem with men wanting attractive women in good shape, as long as the men are also attractive and in good shape. Except no. There are more fat men (77%) in the US population than there are fat women (69%). Men are shallow. They just don't want to be criticized for it. So not only are they shallow, they're also fat hypocrites about it. On top of that, women are thinner and more attractive and they're more likely to be pressured by society to see beyond looks, focus on personality and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:11 PM
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I have no problem with men wanting attractive women in good shape, as long as the men are also attractive and in good shape. Except no. There are more fat men (77%) in the US population than there are fat women (69%). Men are shallow. They just don't want to be criticized for it. So not only are they shallow, they're also fat hypocrites about it. On top of that, women are thinner and more attractive and they're more likely to be pressured by society to see beyond looks, focus on personality and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:00 PM
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Gay men This is misleading. They have the lowest rates of commitment and the highest rates of open relationships. You're omitting important details to compare apples to soccer balls. It's easy to avoid divorce if l never got married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:34 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/ Working hours for men: 44.1 hours. Working hours for women: 41.1 hours. Leisure hours for men: 25.2. Leisure hours for women: 21.6. So yes, men do work 3.1 extra hours of paid work per week, but they are also compensated with 3.6 extra hours of leisure time. Women work 3.1 fewer work hours, but they have 3.6 fewer hours of leisure time. How does that happen? Because me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:07 PM
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Wow, another relationship where men hold all the financial power? Men have never abused this dynamic ever and this has never ended poorly for women. Oh no, wait. They abuse it constantly as studies show foreign spouses face high rates of emotional, financial, or physical abuse. The solution for men is to improve themselves, not to export them to 3rd world countries. They've suffered enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:02 PM
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Yeah, single men die faster than married men, because women stopped being rehab centers for men. Men don't take care of themselves. They don't go to the doctor's, they eat a toddler's diet with no vegetables and live in a frat house. Turns out, a full gun safe with an empty fridge full of expired condiments is detrimental to your health. They also do more drugs and drink more because there is no woman slapping that crap out of their hands. The average man is more likely to be fatter (77% of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:23 PM
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not getting married Men who don't want to get married need to stay single or date woman who also don't want to get married. Why the hell are they trying to date women who do want marriage? So they can exploit her for disappointing regular sex (for her) and household duties and chores? Would you do an extra 72.8 hours of unpaid chores and childcare per year, for free? That's after compensating for men's 3 extra work hours and women 3 extra unpaid work hours. Men won't even clean their own bathroo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:43 PM
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Stop it, you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:58 AM
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The reason why there are many methods for women but few for men is because men don't care, because it's not them that has to carry the baby. There were birth control trials for men in the 70s. They were discontinued when the men refused to endure the side effects, the same ones that the women endure presently. Women just don't have the option not to deal with it, like the men do. it's still the man's fault if she gets pregnant How did she get pregnant? Immaculate conception? Another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:15 AM
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Yes, absolutely. I'm also going to copy and paste the same criticisms from said threads: Pew also used the same survey for this study and their results are very very different. Maybe you’d like to take it up with them? Including: My guy, do you even know what personal care activities mean? Let’s hear your definition, this is the American Time Survey’s definition: ‘Personal care. Personal care activities include sleeping, grooming (such as bathing or dressing), health-related self-care, and perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:22 AM
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The data says that something like 80 percent of men are not actively looking for a relationship with a woman Yes, because men want the benefits of commitment, like regular sex, exclusive companionship and unpaid work, like meals cooked for them, without committing. They want to be able to extract labor and benefits from women but also want the option to leave her without hassle and guilt if someone more attractive comes along. They want their cake and be able to eat it too. If men don't want com…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:36 PM
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I can tell you my favorite porn title if you want. I’m comfortable sharing. Is it Anal Avengers 3? Do l need to watch Anal Avengers 1 and 2 to understand the 3rd installment? Or is it a stand-alone plot?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:26 PM
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Bad-faith argument. You do realize that saying the equivalent of "no, u" to DARVO and evade men's responsibility and culpability doesn't actually work if you can't list examples to illustrate your point. For example: Women claim men commit the majority of violent crimes and they list statistics to prove their assertion. Men, as some sort of low-effort, tit-for-tat argument because they refuse to acknowledge statistics and lack insight and self-reflection, claim that women are just as violent but…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:16 PM
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This is why I previous suspected in a previous post that the media was porn. It's literally the second line of this post. It's also a continuation of OP's previous thread about the influence of porn and how porn creates unrealistic (and sometimes dangerous) standards and expectations of behavior from men and women. Men are denying that they've been unduly influenced from porn, when we know this isn't true. Men internalize and mimick porn when they don't have the critical thinking skills to under…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:36 PM
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Are we really surprised that men are low-effort with arguing with strangers online as they are with unpaid work? Reading posts, composing arguments, doing research and posting sources takes work. Why do that, when they can fire off a glib post to dismiss your post, then watch one more hour of porn? Men have a serious porn addiction they don't want to admit. They've become pornified. We know this because there's been a horrifying rise in sex-related injuries and women seeking medical attention fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:13 PM
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Female emancipation lowers the cost of labour by doubling the supply Bold statement to compare female emancipation with union scabbing. I guess we should continue to domestically enslave women for the good of the economy. If women live horrible lives through their subjugation, then so be it. We could also make the argument that men inflate their true worth through artificial scarcity by oppressing women, like the DeBeers diamond cartel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:16 AM
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No the main reason they don't draft women is because the women affected are a group that participates heavily in voting. How about no. The resistance of adding women to Selective Service requirements in the US is from traditionalist and conservative lawmakers who argue against female conscription on cultural grounds, which liberals and progressive (that women vote for more than men) lawmakers are trying to appeal. Misogynists argue that if men aren't allowed to avoid conscription through bodily …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:56 AM
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"If you are against paternity fraud, you support pedophiles" Literally no one said that. My main argument against paternity fraud is that it's a huge amount of wasted resources for a problem that rarely happens, as paternity fraud only happens in 1-4% of cases. Those resources could be better spent dealing with outstanding child support, which is literally the same problem but in reverse and happens much more often (54% of cases) than paternity fraud. If paternity fraud similarily happened in 54…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:20 AM
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"if you don't wanna have a baby, don't have sex". Yes, because men get women pregnant from men's irresponsibility. But women don't get men pregnant from women's irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:46 AM
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So? The crux of the matter is that misogynists complain that women have a biological advantage in avoiding conscription. The easiest way to recify the biological advantage is to draft women, which they do. The main reason they don't draft women is due to the high rate of rape from their fellow soldiers. But men have a biological advantage in avoiding pregnancy, childbirth or abortion and no solution will ever rectify men's biological advantage. Therefore, women's right to abortion because based …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:42 AM
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Ok, so men from Greece, Ukraine and South Korea can complain about abortion using the bodily autonomy argument. I don't think men from countries with a low likelihood of draft should be able to complain, as they aren't at risk of violation of bodily autonomy. However, all women have a risk of getting pregnant and needing abortion. For men to complain is the equivalent of stolen valor, as they haven't earned it, but will whine as if they do. Also, the gender disadvantage can easily be rectified b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:11 AM
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Being "the provider" comes with its own status and its own sense of purpose and importance. Yes, for men, as sole male breadwinners do nothing at home. His female counterpart, on the other hand, also similarly provides for her family but has to deal with the indignity of her own Second Shift, where she does a disproportionate amount of household chores and childcare that the sole male breadwinner doesn't. But that payoff exists alongside the fact that the arrangement benefits women How? She's fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:36 AM
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"Awesome movie about how rapists should kill themselves"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:47 AM
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I thought she was very pretty during the 1989 era. But the bangs, filler and botox make her look bloated and ridiculous. I also think she and Travis are both gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:38 AM
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male-only draft Men couldn't give a less of a damn about drafts, because they're just as likely to be drafted as the women beside around him. They only use it as a "gotcha" for the bodily autonomy argument about abortion. men being responsible for protecting women "Why don't you spend an hour a day everyday, forever, cooking and cleaning for me and in exchange, I'll protect you from an abstract, once-in-a-lifetime event that may never happen. I also have a non-zero chance of chickening out when …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:36 AM
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we'd like for you to change to what we want and you're not going to either. Like what? Do more chores than we already are? Work more hours than we already do? We're all worm food soon enough. Alright, we will just stink and starve in the meantime. Good talk, man. The gendered chore imbalance is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:47 AM
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Well, this entire repetitive diatribe about how lazy and awful men are sure doesn't help on the resentment part. Classic DARVO. Men do as little unpaid work as possible but somehow they're the victims because some feminazi won't stop harping about the gendered work imbalance. What's fair share, who works harder, what's necessary, what measurements are you using, to what degree, who is better suited to what, which chores does one hate more So it's all relative and therefore meaningless? That's wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:32 AM
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They tried that. Women still get screwed over. Men still benefit from traditional gender roles because sole male breadwinners largely do nothing at home, whereas a sole female breadwinner has to work and do a disproportionate amount of household chores and childcare than her male counterpart. According to the American Time Use Survey, SAHDs only work 33 hours, which is significantly fewer hours than the average SAHM (who works 43 hours) because men are lazy and entitled. A female breadwinner doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:05 AM
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Which is why men have no business having children, but do so anyway due to their collective narcissism and irresponsibility. I would respect men more if they had an ounce of self-reflection and refrained from having children due to their appalling track record on childcare. The only thing men dodge faster than responsibility is child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:50 AM
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providership when it comes to women and "taking the easy way out" 78% of women in the US have full-time jobs. 22% of women work part-time or are SAHMs, where their work is unpaid. Just because their work is unpaid, doesn't mean it has no value. Kids don't raise themselves and dinner doesn't put itself on the table. If men don't think this work is important or valued, they are welcome to do their own Second Shift. So can we claim that 78% of fathers do their fair share of childcare? No, we can't.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:43 AM
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You don't get it. What OP is saying, in a roundabout and facetious way, is that men are too lazy and narcissistic to tend to children. Whatever they complain about custody is performative, because they never intended to do the work in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:37 AM
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How is it stupid, though? What's stupid is men wanting children to flatter their egos, while trying to get away with doing as little childcare as possible. Then men get all indignant when we list a bunch of statistics that detail how men have no business being parents due to their laziness and irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:14 AM
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Also a man shouldn’t feel entitled to dump his kids on the women around him that’s poor behavior I have no idea why you’d encourage that. Telling though. OP isn't. What they are doing is highlighting how little childcare men do and how likely they are to delegate responsibility of their own children to the women around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:10 AM
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Assumptions for thee, not for me. Then there is child support. Where every man overpays by a lot, by law, to the mother, where only some of it goes to the child The average child support payment is $671 per month. Over 54% of child support cases in the US are partially or fully outstanding. 2.5m men in the US are currently in arrears.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:17 PM
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Men wanting custody is performative. If they did as much childcare as they claim they want to, they wouldn't have gotten divorced in the first place. 91% of custody arrangements are agreed upon between the parents, before a judge gets involved. The judge merely rubber stamps the arrangement. The only time a judge gets involved is when there's a dispute. These are rare, because men don't ask for custody. The reason why men don't have custody is because they don't want it. They're neglectful paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:44 PM
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remarkably egalitarian division of labor with men working more total average What? Men work 3 more hours (44.2 hours to 41.1) than women, but they are compensated by the 3.6 more hours of leisure time (25.2 hours to 21.6) they have. That extra 3.6 hours of leisure time negates the extra 3 hours of work men do. 44.2 (work) + 5.1 (childcare) + 1.9 (chores) = 51.2 total hours of work for men. 44.1 + 6.9 + 4.6 = 55.6 total hours of work for women. 55.6 - 51.2 is 4.4 extra hours of work for women per…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:43 PM
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The problem is constantly protecting a boy’s ego, excusing his behavior, overpraising him, shielding him from consequences If you don't coddle them, then they get violent. It's like they're born with a sense of entitlement, low regard for others and have zero capacity for self-reflection. Nobody like washing dishes or caring for younger siblings. Little girls bite the bullet and do so anyway because nobody else will. “ why do men have to pay for dates? It’s just women using men for the resources…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:19 PM
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Well, there's that whole raping and murdering of men by women that men manage to avoid because most women aren't utterly devoid of empathy and humanity. Look at me, not currently date raping and/or killing men if they refuse to date me. It's surprisingly easy!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:53 PM
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I don't hate men. Real hate would be making them do all the chores and childcare, while working their own full-time job. I would work, then watch soccer and play video games all night, while doing my once-a-year chores and call it even. Then l would divorce him when he got sick and remarry another husband appliance in 3 months. Or get them pregnant, abandon them and whine about how women have no choice. I haven't even gotten to the raping and murdering part yet. Shall l go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:48 PM
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"Nah. Single dads are ran through with their baggage and make horrible decisions with their 2 or 3 baby mommas. I am not going to raise another woman's child. Why would l play with some woman's save file?" But seriously, very undesirable. Go on the stepparents sub. It's just post after post from women tired of caring for kids that don't belong to her but can't leave the relationship because she's anchored to the guy with her own baby. It’s gotten so bad that l scan the post for any mention of "o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:23 PM
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men were told that simply being nice, waiting for the right moment, or just being themselves would naturally lead to success No one told men this. Men should be nice and pro-social because it's the right thing to do, not because it entitles them to a relationship that they whine about when they don't get. If a man needs outside incentive to be a decent person, they're a terrible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:45 AM
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Is there ever a situation where it isn't a woman's fault for men's behavior? Men not being whiny over having to be considerate about other people and their needs. Challenge: Impossible. Stop listening to Red Pill conmen trying to sell you a course on seduction. Dating isn't a numbers game. If men swipe right on every woman, the algorithm sends them to the bottom of the list because they are either a bot or thoroughly unattractive and desperate. Their presence and company has no value and is more…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:41 AM
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How dare women put limits on men's behavior. Men should be allowed to be creepy and annoy women online and IRL and ejaculate everywhere, as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:39 AM
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May the one constant never wane, the indomitable will of LoB and her manic ranting You could just ignore her, like how men ignore childcare and child support payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:34 AM
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If it's nothing, why don't men do it? Name one unpaid daily chore that takes an hour that men do for women, for a woman's benefit. None. There is no chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:34 PM
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Eh, women also want those things without actually wanting marriage. So? These women do so to their own detriment and they are few and far in between. Just because they agree to being exploited doesn't make it any less predatory. Wanting some items and not others is fine as long as it's clearly communicated and everyone involved comes to an agreement. Yeah, by dating women who also don't want marriage, not date women who do want marriage, assume all the benefits these women provide and then try t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:16 PM
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If men don't want marriage, it's pretty hypocritical to want marriage-like things like buying property together, having children and sharing chores and household duties. If men don't want marriage, then they also aren't entitled to marriage-like things. They should stay single or date but maintain their own residence, do their own chores and manage their own lives, unless they're trying to exploit women's unpaid labor through some cohabitation loophole, then devalue her unpaid labor by assuming …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:56 PM
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Do women get pregnant on their own? No, they don't. But they do get stuck holding the bag when the guy gets her pregnant, then pussies out and leaves her to deal with the pregnancy alone. That is, if he's not trying to manipulate her into keeping the baby, while intending, all along, to do as little childcare as possible. It seems that we could have had fewer baby murderering incidents if men didn't irresponsibly ejaculate everywhere. I don't see much of a difference between actively killing a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:05 AM
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misandry Misandry means using data and statistics to document how little unpaid work men do, while cataloging how much harm they cause. If it's so easy and straightforward to just partner up with someone, irrespective of any interest, attraction, or sexual desire why wouldn't you dudes partner up with each other? Because you need one to be the unpaid domestic slave, who also works full-time. A parasitic relationship doesn't work if both men are trying to dump their chores on the other. There's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:35 AM
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Men lie Oh. Well, when you put it that way, that sociopathic behavior is a-ok. So it's perfectly fine for men to lie to obtain sex by any means necessary, but it's not ok for me to criticize them by describing them as a cancerous leech that needs to be excised from humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:55 AM
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While dangling the carrot of commitment to keep them interested. Thanks for confirming that men are exactly the narcissists, devoid of empathy, like l say they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:49 AM
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Yeah, because women love caring for kids that don't belong to her, while men are barely present for their own kids. They also love caring for elderly relatives and taking them for medical appointments because sitting on the couch watching soccer totally sucks. Women also love being unpaid caregivers and medical advocates for their husbands, who would divorce their wives the minute these men had a chance, if the shoe was on the other foot. Lmao, surely not from Hillary Clinton or Oprah. They may …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:44 AM
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Why do men lie and keep dating women who want relationships when they should be finding and dating women who also don't want commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:28 AM
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Imagine if men had the reproductive and sexual power of women. There would be abortion clinics on every block. Men could claim Midol and chocolate on their tax returns. Women would be shamed, not celebrated, for complaining about him killing her baby, while whining about how she had no choice, even though the only thing she did was irresponsibly deposit her eggs into his body and left. Probably fck as many hoe's as they possibly can. Would they settle down at a very young age to get married and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:25 AM
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Men make themselves expendable by doing as little unpaid work as possible, while becoming another child a woman has to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:03 AM
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Typical men. Refuse to do the unpaid work, while depending on it, then turn around and devalue it. The gender that's been statistically proven to delegate as much unpaid work as possible, doesn’t want to keep score. That's why we use studies and statistics to prove it, so men can't gaslight us on how little they do. Women spend an average of 7 hours a week on cooking alone. Just cooking, not any other chores. Men spend 10 hours a year on car maintenance. In one and a half weeks, women have alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:08 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/RevTrad/comments/1unj32g I may shitpost from time to time. But l never shill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:12 AM
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Oh, men were trying help? Could have fooled me with how the credit history is set up to accrue in his name, not hers, even though she makes all the payments. Men felt entitled to do that because they saw women as financially dependent slaves and therefore, beneath them, even though women had their own jobs. Again, if that's not a problem, let's have the men open up a credit card where he makes all the payments but the history is under her name and dies with her. No? Yeah, l thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:37 AM
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Single fathers have a 41% chance to be cohabiting with someone new compared with 16% for single mothers, according to Pew Research. Yes, because they dump the work onto the new partner, who has been socialized to help. The man has the kid half the time. Instead of doing all the work for his half, he splits that with his new partner and manages to get away with doing 25% of the childcare. New partner is already cooking and cleaning, what's one more meal? If she's close, she can help do pick up an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:02 AM
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Then Feminism came along with a narrative that painted women as prisoners and slaves of men. Women were totally happy and content being domestic slaves who couldn't open bank accounts or credit cards on their own until the 1970s. Then the sneaky Feminazis ruined that dream. New Rule: Men need to ask permission from their wives to open bank accounts and credit cards until 2082. If needing someone else's permission to manage your own finances isn't a problem, men should be happy to accommodate. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:27 PM
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What makes you any different than this woman who can’t get picked? Entitlement. Men are allowed to be fat and ugly and still demand relationships. It's the women's fault for being shallow and picky. And why should any woman pick a man she isn’t attracted to, when you all won’t do the same either? For how shallow and demanding men are, you'd think they would be the fittest and most beautiful people on Earth. Nope. There are more fat men (77%) in the US population than there are (69%). So not only…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:19 PM
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You are clear as mud, OP. What are you trying to say here? The issue isn't necessarily that he vanished after the first hookup, it's that commitment was never his goal in the first place. That's fine, as long as he makes his intentions crystal clear right from the beginning. If men insist that they can’t read minds, neither can women. Men aren't faulted for missing something obvious, like not cleaning a mess they themselves made because "women should have told him", but somehow women are expecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:44 PM
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Zoya_The_Destroyah is correct with his advice. It's OP that doesn't understand the assignment. People build friendships because of mutual shared interests, not to be assigned jobs like wingman. OP's version of friendship is superficial and transactional, which is why he's been excluded from social groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:14 AM
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Meanwhile, women seem to have a much easier path to building new social circles. They build their social circles. There's no sky fairy that bestows this gift upon women, while purposely skipping the men. What you are seeing on Saturday night is the culmination of work done in the weeks, months, years leading into it: texting, making brunch plans, checking in, building bonds through shared experiences, taking a genuine interest in each other, planning birthdays, baby showers and providing social …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:56 AM
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Nothing. It has nothing to do the topic at hand. We can and should still make judgements on behavior in sex and dating. Your premise is crystal clear. The ones that don't understand are being deliberately obtuse because they are indignant about being criticized for their entitlement but they are too dense to formulate a proper response.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:41 AM
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That men use terrible metaphors to commodify sex and are therefore entitled to it and don't care if the woman doesn't want to accommodate. Because women have sex with desirable men, somehow these undesirable men are also owed sex, like they put in kindness coins in the vending machine and are angry and perturbed because the machine did not dispense sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:30 AM
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Those standards have not kept up with everyone being broke in 2026 So women have assumed of the 50% responsibility and the pressure of providing for the family from men, but men have not reciprocated and assumed 50% of the responsibility and the pressure of household chores, duties and childcare from the women. amount of cultural inertia required to shift that paradigm is immense. Stop rationalizing and excusing men's laziness and entitlement. There is no invisible forcefield stopping men from d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:19 AM
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Oh, staaaaaahp it, you. You're making me blush! Compliments will get you everywhere. Misandrist dosen't mean anything. Can you blame me? "Hey guys, can you do some chores, household duties and childcare? Also, when you have time, can you also stop raping and murdering women?" Men: No. And no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:42 PM
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The primary role of any human is to be a parent Then why do men shirk as much childcare duties as possible? The only demographic that rated "having children" as the top life goal were conservative men. They are also the demographic that does the least amount of childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:04 PM
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Thank you. Oh my goodness, alt accounts?! Was he caught replying to himself? That is hilarious! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:55 PM
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I just argued that fighting a default decision is basically unwinnable and the first thing you says is "weeeell most of they time they agree with the judge decision" It's an agreement between the parents, the judge just approves it. It's not a judge and the mother conspiring against the dad to cut him out of unpaid work he'd be avoiding regardless. Regarding the 27% of fathers who abandon their children after divorce: Did the judge order that too? No shit Sherlock, is the thinking department lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:49 PM
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All of which is paid work, they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their own hearts. Because if it was unpaid, they wouldn't do it. Women also work too, but the difference is that women don't use work as an excuse to do as little as possible as home like men do, besides their occasional chores that they do once a year and never have to do again for 12 months. Are men suddenly a nation of ditch diggers, bricklayers and deep sea fisherman? No. 40% of men work office jobs, the same cushy jobs a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:34 PM
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What men complain about here is purely projection. It's pretty much the adult equivalent of "no, u" to diffuse responsibility. If they actually sat down and took stock on how little unpaid work they do and how much harm they cause, they would actually have to do something about it. Why do that, when they can DARVO and continue to do as little as possible through their male privilege? Statistics? Radical feminist conspiracy to oppress men. Research? Overblown, misandric agenda to paint men in a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:04 PM
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you have to fight a decision of a judge you're aways at a disadvantage. 91% of custody arrangements are agreed upon, where the dad willingly gives up custody, because he doesn't want to take care of the kids. What judge's decisions are men fighting when they willing gave up their right to custody? Fun fact: 27% of fathers completely abandon their children after divorce. It's why the presumption of innocence exists The presumption of innocence has to do with criminal law. It has nothing to do wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:43 AM
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Lots of men just don’t like to admit that children are hard work and a full time job, they want someone else to raise their kids for them but don’t want to pay for it either. Men complaining about custody is performative. Men don't get custody because they don't ask for it, because they don't want it. If they do, the main purpose is to eliminate child support payments. Have you read the mom/parenting subs? All they complain about they are stuck with the children all day, while their husbands wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:46 AM
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is it just 'heres why women suck, debate'? That actually doesn't bother me. It's the bad-faith arguments, assertions without research, false equivalence comparisons, fake hypocrisies and fake double-standards that really bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:31 AM
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stay-at-home fatherhood Yeah, and l posted stats about how SAHMs work 61 hours per week when SAHDs only work 33 hours per week, implying that men are lazy, only do the bare minimum and do half of what the typical SAHM does. You went on a rant about single mothers and pro-life supporters, and were looking for a researcher to discredit my stat, despite the fact that it's been quoted from the American Time Use Survey. Are they a biased, radical feminist, anti-male organization too? Or maybe because…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:05 AM
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It's AI. He put your question in as a prompt and copypasted the answer - and you know what? You're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:32 AM
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Jesus, what happened here? It's like a comment graveyard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:22 AM
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If women are such terrible listeners, then why don't men simply open up to other men? I have asked this question many times but no man has ever given me a straight answer. That's because men are even worse listeners. That's why you come to women in the first place. Women get their social support from other women, not men. Having two men talk to each other about their problems doesn't work because it's the equivalent of two narcissists constantly talking over and interrupting each other, while no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:57 AM
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you men still want everything to be split exactly in the middle 50/50 on the grocery bill, while he eats twice as much food. He gets to watch soccer on the couch after work because he's tired, while the wife, who has also come home after a long day at work, gets to start the Second Shift cooking, cleaning and tending to the kids as if she didn't also work all day. in the same manner men want paper abortions because they know we can't make them be able to gestate Men aren't responsible for contra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:42 AM
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Don't commit paternity fraud, it's so fucking simple. Yes, and few women do. It happens, at worst, in about 4% of cases. Whereas outstanding child support happens so frequently, many states won't let men renew their driving, hunting or fishing licenses unless they're current, because that's the only way to force men to pay. The government doesn't need similar enforcement tools to dissuade women from committing paternity fraud because it rarely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:30 AM
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Paternity fraud happens in about 1% to 4% of all cases. That means, in 96% to 99% of the time, the presumed father is the actual father. Resources aren't infinite. Why would we waste resources to solve a problem that rarely happens, when that precious lab time be better spent processing, oh I don't know, rape kits? Now that we've spend precious resources to confirm that 96% to 99% of women aren't the town bicycle, can we focus on the problem of outstanding child support? Out of roughly 5.4 milli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:39 AM
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Yeah, that's some nice false equivalence logic you've got going there. Women's objection is being slut-shamed is valid, because their behavior doesn't hurt anyone. They can have sex with whomever they want, with however they want, as the men are. However, men's objection to being Passport Bro-shamed isn't valid because they're exploiting women in 3rd world countries and are deserving of criticism. So they should be left alone to continue to exploit women living in abject poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:24 AM
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In addition to physical intervention, men were more likely to react to conflicts by laughing, filming, or cheering. So men are more likely to intervene, but they are also more likely to exacerbate an already tense situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:00 AM
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I have also intervened, called out men and protected other women from men. The only difference is l don't use that as a condition in implied patriarchal contracts to do zero chores, childcare and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:56 AM
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Yes, because they're two separate concepts that have nothing to do with each other. We condemn men for slut shaming because they feel entitled to police women's behavior, while engaging in the same behavior themselves. We are calling out their hypocrisy. We don't condemn those who shame men for being a Passport Bro, because Passport Bros use the severe structural inequality to exploit women from 3rd world countries. Studies have shown that foreign spouses face high rates of emotional, financial,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:17 PM
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Then why did you ask them for sources and then dismiss them when they did? It takes a lot of work to compile research. Men wouldn't know this because they don't do any of it but still have the arrogance to equate their terrible opinion with actual statistics and data. If you aren't ready to debate, then don't ask for sources. This is bad-faith arguing and sealioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:11 PM
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You love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:18 PM
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Women are doing their jobs by being eternally vigilant about attacks on women's autonomy. Men can't whine about the actions of "a few, select men" and then do nothing about it. When men sit idly by and do nothing, they are complicit. The only people men will fight is women. Are men resorting to personal attacks when they don't have a proper response to deserved criticism? I'm not bitter, but l do have brunch plans for Sunday to watch the World Cup because l did the unpaid work to make that happe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:17 PM
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Then do the work and post the statistics that prove men contribute as much as they claim they do. Only men are that entitled to expect credit, while doing none of the work. Dismissing important data as "misandry" is the laziest thing men can do. If men were intellectually honest, they would accept the data and try to do better. But of course, that involves unpaid work and the only thing men avoid more than unpaid work is their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:57 PM
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Nothing. Men provide nothing of value except more chores to do, with the added bonus of subtle threats of violence if women don't comply and date men, no matter now awful they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:05 PM
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Men’s loneliness problem is for them to fix or cope with. Which they refuse to do by subtly threatening women with violence or by ending abortion rights and no-fault divorce if women don't comply and lower their standards. Stay lonely, men. The issue with men is they aren't hated enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:28 PM
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That's not true. Men are single and lonely because they are lazy and entitled and women refuse to put up with it. There's some very dishonest debating here, especially by the men, as they seem to assume men contribute equally to relationships as women do. The majority of women have full-time jobs and they generally do the majority of the chores, childcare and other household labor. However, men contribute as little as possible and we have the statistics to prove it. Men will try to rip women off…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:20 PM
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Yes, but only men are allowed to be lazy, toxic and entitled. Women aren't allowed to have standards or be similarly lazy, toxic and entitled because it's "muh hipooogamee".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:56 PM
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As if people are entitled to each other’s money Why is this an issue? Clearly, men are entitled to women's unpaid labor because we know men do as little chores and childcare as possible. Women don't seem to have this entitlement to men's money as 80% of women have full-time jobs. The ones that don't are SAHMs. Just because the work is unpaid doesn't mean it has no value. Are we seriously expecting women to be SAHMs and have their own full-time jobs on top of that so they don't steal men's precio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:04 PM
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No. Men don't like high earning women because men can't financially trap them. The women will just walk away at the first sign of disrespect, as they should. Men don't intend to be equal partners. If they did, they'd do their chores and watch their kids. But they'll go after the low earning women because it's much easier to manipulate her into being an unpaid domestic slave. Then they'll complain about "muh aleemonnee".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:00 AM
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divorce is initiated by women the majority of the time Yes. Because they're tired of men who work but do little else in the relationship. No one leaves a good marriage. Female breadwinner households make up roughly 16 percent of couples, but account for up to 42 percent of all divorces. Because they're the ones that get the shit end of both sticks. They're the breadwinner who does disproportionately more chores and childcare than the average male breadwinner. I'd divorce the leech of a SAHD only…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:52 AM
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Because studies show foreign spouses face high rates of emotional, financial, or physical abuse. We didn't just pick these men out of a hat to criticize. If they are alone and unable to obtain a relationship in their home country, there's usually a good reason. It's usually because they are abrasive, abusive or unattractive but somehow feel entitled to an attractive women. These men deserve to be alone. Women in 3rd world countries aren't social support animals or consolation prizes for undesira…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 09:53 PM
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One is more likely to be divorced from an American woman than a foreign one. Only because the abusive spouse uses the severe structural inequality to create barriers to divorce and trap her in the marriage. If the abused spouse had access to the same resources as a citizen of that country, she would divorce him too. A severe power imbalance and dependency through coercion should never be mistaken for loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:36 AM
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I've read, way too many stories of guys going to places like Thailand, falling in love, getting in long term relationship and then getting financially used and then discarded. It's so common that immigrants to Thailand joke about it amongst themselves. Good. Studies show foreign spouses face high rates of emotional, financial, or physical abuse. There is nothing more poetic than someone who uses their financial power to create a power imbalance, only to be abandoned at the end due to their abusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:55 AM
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Are we seriously expecting men to do any type of prep work or research before posting?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:15 AM
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There was a version of AWDTSG for men. It was shut down on the same day by the developer because men were using it to trade revenge porn pictures. Women are using it to protect themselves from rapists, abusers and cheaters, as they rarely come with a warning tattooed on their forehead. Men were using it to distribute sexually explicit images without a person's consent in order to humiliate them. But it's no different than AWDTSG No, it isn't. There was no attempt from men to use the network as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:06 AM
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No one is arguing that women from 3rd world countries can't consent but these types of relationships are predatory and prone to abuse due to the inherent power imbalance. What we object to is your assumption that these women are giving fully informed consent, not under duress or coercion from their living conditions and have the power to leave these relationships once they become abusive, like privileged women from 1st world countries. They do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:41 AM
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Yes, they can consent. But it doesn't make the dynamic any less exploitative. Abject poverty creates a highly coercive environment that undermines the voluntariness of that consent. Framing the matter as an issue of "consent" is manipulative as you're conveniently ignoring the power imbalance that puts women at a significant disadvantage. If men actually cared about the plight of women in 3rd world countries, they'd be campaigning to raise their economic status so these women have the choice to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 12:18 AM
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assume that women in poor countries can’t consent So men suddenly care about women's consent, but only in the context of rationalizing their exploitation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 09:43 PM
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Am I the only one who sees this contradiction Therefore, women are being hypocritical and men can ignore all attempts at "equality" because women are inconsistent at this one issue? Many women say they want equal relationships Yes. This refers to men pulling their weight in the relationship, meaning they do equal childcare, chores, household duties, the administrative care work of making doctor's appointments, booking vacations, planning birthdays etc., instead of leaving it for the women to do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:16 PM
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You are wrong. The classic situation is that the man earns more than the woman, and the woman wants to get married, and the man doesn't. The woman want s marriage because she "doesn't trust" the man, and the man DOESN'T want to get married because he "doesn't trust" the woman. It's fine if men don't want to get married. But why are they doing this marriage-like stuff like living together and sharing chores? If men don't want the disadvantages of marriage, they shouldn't benefit from the advantag…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:02 AM
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"You are making a ton of assumptions" Yes. You are making a ton of assumptions. The most egregious one being your assumption that a SAHD works just as hard as a SAHM when the data says the opposite. The average SAHM works 61 hours per week. The average SAHD only works 33 hours per week. The average female breadwinner still does disproportionately more chores and childcare than the average sole male breadwinner. Even when men are SAHDs, they're still trying to rip women off on household chores an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:46 AM
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This is NOT A GOTCHA. But this is an excuse for men to diffuse responsibility and escape blame for how little they do in relationships. It's the women's fault for not explicitly stating what should be an implicit assumption between two parties. It's also a woman’s fault for not loving the Second Shift. "But she didn't ask me to do the dishes. How was l supposed to know l was supposed to wash the dishes too if I'm living with someone long term? I'm not a mind reader!" However, I'm puzzled by the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 01:44 AM
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Because women don't beat, abuse, choke and murder sex workers. There is no contradiction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:14 AM
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women who lose common sense for dick Male-centered women are the worst. I see them as union scabs. These women will lose us the right to vote if it will get them a boyfriend. That raises the question: why don't men pick them already?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:09 PM
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You vote however you want but the decision is on you. Women don't get pregnant on their own and they also don't get men pregnant and abandon them. Men can pick up the phone, call a friend and make a reservation for restaurant on Sunday. Can women pick up the phone and order an abortion in the same way? No, they cannot. Nobody is stopping you from making brunch plans to watch soccer from but people are stopping women from obtaining safe abortions. Because you expect a woman to call you, call the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:30 AM
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but men aren’t able to do the same Because the outcomes are different. If a woman has a medical abortion, the fetus is dead and there is no child to support. But if a man has a financial abortion, the financial obligation doesn't just disappear, it gets transferred onto someone else, namely, the taxpayer. Why is the taxpayer more responsible than the guy who got her pregnant? They didn't irrsponsibly ejaculate into a woman. Also, the woman didn't deposit her eggs into a man and got him pregnant.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:30 AM
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Because men aren't allowed to use the bodily autonomy argument to avoid Selective Service, women shouldn't be granted abortion based on bodily autonomy. Is this your logic? Because women can be required to sign up, which rectifies the legal imbalance that specifically affects men and nullifies the biological advantage of women. The resistance of adding women to Selective Service requirements is from traditionalist and conservative lawmakers who argue against female conscription on cultural groun…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:33 AM
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men who get pregnant have the same exact options as women. Exactly. Until men have the biological capacity to get pregnant, they can't logically claim the rights that women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:08 PM
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Men shouldn't be able to force a woman to have an abortion, or force women not to have an abortion. On the flip side of this, the government should not force men to support the child financially if the man wants the woman to have an abortion and she doesn't want to. No. The right to an abortion is based on bodily autonomy, where no one can be forced to go through pregnancy against their will. That only logically entails that if men get pregnant, they can also access a safe abortion. But just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:01 PM
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Except a fetus is not a person. It lacks the consciousness, sentience, and neurological development required to be considered a "person". Personhood is assigned at birth, not at conception. Also, women don't get pregnant on their own. Men are at least 50% (if not 100% responsible) for the conditions that necessitate an abortion. Women don't get pregnant and abort for sport. Just because women happen to carry the baby because of biology doesn't negate a man's irresponsibility in causing an intend…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:50 PM
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PS/FA is proposed to equalise the consequences of sex. If you wanted to equalize the consequences of sex, men should also have the capability to get pregnant. They don't, so this is a moot point. Just because women have the right to abortion doesn't automatically entail that men have a right to a financial abortion. Where is the logical reasoning? What is the rational connection? The right to an abortion is based on bodily autonomy, where no one can be forced to go through pregnancy against thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:22 PM
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Because this and abortion are two entirely separate scenarios that have absolutely nothing to do with other. Where is the rational connection between the two? There is none. This is just another bad-faith argument to manipulate women into doing more work for men than the men themselves to rationalize their own inaction. No one has to take the skyrocketing suicides, the skyrocketing rates of depression Men love trotting out this trope for sympathy but they always neglect to mention that the numbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:58 AM
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No. Women still work more than men and they work significantly more minutes per day than men in certain countries. https://www.statista.com/chart/13940/women-work-more-than-men/ It is women, however, who put in a lot of the unpaid work, exceeding that of men by an average of more than two hours each day, therefore officially working more than men do. In only Australia and NZ do men and women work the same minutes per day (paid and unpaid). In Europe, women work 472 minutes per day to 438 for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:36 AM
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Nah. https://torontosun.com/health/married-men-live-longer-married-women-not-so-much-study Married men saw the biggest drops in mortality rates, with research pointing out that men who are tied down are less likely to take risks, get into accidents or consume alcohol and drugs. Literally every study confirms that men greatly benefit from marriage. No study contradicts this finding. But the jury is still out on whether women also benefit from marriage and at least 2 studies contradict this findin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:16 AM
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You're comparing apples to soccer balls. Men kill, they abuse and they rape. Their criticism is deserved because of their general callousness and lack of empathy. When women kill, rape and abuse men at the same rates, then we will criticize the women. But men's criticism of women is undeserved and consists of obscure scenarios as some sort of "gotcha!" to discredit women's valid concerns about men. Women can only wish that their biggest problems with men involved being a simp for some guy. But h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:34 AM
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Because men don't bring anything to the table except chores, a mess to clean up and a lower life expectancy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:13 AM
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If men were fit and demanded fit women in return, that's completely fine. I have no objection to that. But statistically, there are more obese and overweight men (68%) in the US population than there are obese and overweight women (60%), yet the complaints are mostly from men, who have a more likely chance to be fatter than the women they are criticizing. So the women, who are actually thinner than men on average, endure more criticism than they deserve because of men's shallowness and cruelty b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:38 AM
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And I'm telling you that it isn't the confidence, it's the laziness. What don't you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:16 PM
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Exactly. That's the problem. You only clean up your mess and cook what you eat. If women had the same self-centered attitude where they only cook and clean for themselves and not a stitch of work more, we'd starve all to death and live in a garbage dump. But about a family party where the mess is made collectively?Men will gladly leave a mess behind because they didn't make the mess personally. The other women won't. They'll pitch in and take responsibility to cook food they won't eat and clean …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:14 PM
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Men's laziness is what puts them at a disadvantage. 80% of women have full-time jobs. The ones that don't are mainly SAHMs, whose work is unpaid and devalued by men. Very few women don't have jobs in some way or another. However, women have to navigate a mine field where she has a huge chance that the guy she picks won't do any chores or household duties, while eating 70% of the food.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:34 PM
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No, modern men didn't establish the patriarchy but when your grandfathers, fathers, uncles, sons and male cousins sit on the couch watching soccer, while the women are cooking and cleaning all day, while paying for half the food, you'll join the men on the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:26 PM
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A neutral organization vs a religious think thank dedicated to gaslighting women about little work men do in the household. Yeah, I'm sure the world has dramatically changed in the past 11 years. That's not a contradiction So many barriers to men doing childcare, despite the fact that it's so easy and isn't work. Better watch sports and play video games instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:22 PM
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Hey, that's great. However: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/upshot/men-do-more-at-home-but-not-as-much-as-they-think-they-do.html Men tend to disagree. They say they do as much housework and child care as their wives — even though data show they don't 2 x 0 is still 0. IFS is the same organization that excuses men for the lack of childcare due to their jobs, but somehow also blames women for hoarding the childcare. Contradiction much? https://ifstudies.org/blog/no-most-dads-are-not-shiftless-…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:04 PM
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adulting problem and it is both men and women How is it both sides when women bring home have or more of the income, while doing the majority of chores and childcare? If men actually did the chores and childcare they claim to do, women wouldn't be complaining in the first place. Can we get back to meritocracy? Stop all the special allowance and get back to merit Oh, so now it sucks. Well, it didn't suck for men when they were happy to perpetuate the patriarchy for thousands of years and only gav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:23 PM
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Paying her bills 80% of women have their own full-time jobs. So men are claiming full credit when they actually only pay half. The women who don't are SAHMs. Are SAHMs supposed to also have a full-time job on top of the full-time job of raising children? So men demand extra credit when it's literally the least they should be doing. Princess treatment Like doing their chores instead of leaving it for the women to do, like they usually do? Women eagerly read about dominant abusive men in their rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:55 PM
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guilt trip men into obedience Men need to be guilt tripped into doing chores and childcare, because otherwise, they just won't do it. The reminder that men do very little in relationships, while eating 70% of the food, is apparently misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:23 PM
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99% of the women on here if they were men they would have been labeled as off hinge incels and would be banned How though? Men love comparing radical feminists to incels in an effort to discredit feminism, but incels aren't exactly encouraging men to do their fair share of parenting and household duties, like the feminists are. Proposed radical feminist solutions involve planning book clubs and vegan brunches to avoid men, but proposed incel solutions involve some form of coercion and rape of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:25 AM
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say things nobody would say in real life Maybe we should start saying these things in real life, like presenting men with statistics that detail how little chores and childcare they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:07 AM
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acted surprised and called me a liar when I said I was a virgin. You do realize these colleagues were just bring nice. No, that stripper doesn't have a crush on you. Neither does the waitress. why I don't want to marry It's fine if you don't want to marry. What we have a problem with is men who don’t want to marry, but do marriage-like things, like buy property, have children and combine finances and chores. Married women are protected as assets are divided evenly in the event of a divorce, as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:50 AM
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Because men want their cake and eat too. This is just one of many examples where men exploit feminism and the patriarchy. Manipulate women into paying 50/50, or else they're a gold digger, while eating 70% of the food and doing 25% of their share of the chores. No woman should offer to pay a dime until men have been statistically proven to pull their weight around the house and not use "work" as an excuse to get out of doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:46 PM
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Men should always pay. Here's why. Men will always screw over women with the administrative work, household duties, chores and childcare in relationships. Until men are statistically proven to start doing their fair share, women should always assume the men will leave her with the bulk of unpaid work, even if she has her own full-time job. If women are expected to plan and pay for dates, under the guise of "equality", in addition to all her duties that somehow fall to her in a heterosexual relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:38 PM
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we would not see men being the majority of the homeless, majority of suicides, majority of deaths from drugs and alcohol, shall I continue? Do you know what the Number 1 mitigating factor is in preventing suicide, deaths of despair etc? It's a strong social network. Women build their social networks through kinkeeping (remembering birthdays and anniversaries, planning parties, even just reaching out to say hello), book clubs, taking care of elderly relatives and volunteering. It doesn’t just dro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:16 PM
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There it is. When women don't go to school: discrimination. When men don't: lazy. Source: your ass The NYT can only wish that they were as beautiful as my ass. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/23/opinion/girls-boys-school-performance.html I also wondered if boys are being socialized at home to know that they don’t have to put in as much effort as their mothers and sisters, which might have a knock-on effect. So much of doing well at school and in the modern work force is executive function and or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:14 PM
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So, let's talk about feminist action taken directed at helping men. Because these abstract, thereotical men helped women in the past, feminists must do the work in return to help men, even if the men refuse to help themselves. Because fair is fair, right? Asking men to take their boot off women's necks is not the same as actively campaiging on behalf of women. Men never helped women until they were forced into it, and they only did so begrudgingly when they couldn't keep justifying their oppress…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:40 PM
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You... do know the patriarchy was and is the longest affirmative action program for men, right? It's literally gone on for thousands of years. The scholarships that women got were started by, paid for and maintained by other women. Men can also start mentoring programs and start scholarships for other men. They just don't want to. There are a ton of male-only scholarships for men. Men don't apply to them because they require a high GPA, volunteer work and participation in extra-curricular activi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:53 PM
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No. This is exactly why l refuse to engage in debate with bad-faith comparisons such as this. 1970 The barriers women faced in pursuing higher education were due to the systematic, patriarchal oppression of women. Remove these barriers and women's attendance and performance goes up. 2026 The barriers that men face are due to their laziness and entitlement. Men are not hamstrung in the same manner as women historically were. There is no equivalent systematic, matriarchal oppression of men by wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:53 PM
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No, you're right. It's ancient.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:42 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/06/yarra-valley-grammar-students-suspended-spreadsheet-rating-female-classmates
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:32 PM
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If women had been equally present in philosophy, law, theology, literature, and politics from the start, human thought would probabaly look very different. Stolen works by men: Rosalind Franklin, the true discoverer of the double helix. Zelda Fitzgerald, the true writer of the Great Gatsby and other works. F. Scott couldn't write a grocery list even if his life depended on it. Nettie Stevens, first discovered that chromosomes determine gender. Vera Rubin, the first discoverer of the concept of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:24 PM
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Men are constantly told not to be controlling because women want freedom and autonomy. Yes, because some men have a history of being controlling to the point of dictating who she can be friends with, what she can wear or even eat. It's a tactic to wear down her resolve to make her compliant and prioritize his needs. These men need to stop doing that because controlling personalities are abusive and incredibly exhausting. But then I also see a lot of complaints about men being too passive or too …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:52 PM
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Oooh. I like these thought experiments. Egalitarian Husband This is a great deal for women. Strangers attacks are rare. The most likely perpetrator in crimes against women is the husband or the boyfriend. So we've eliminated the most probable threat to women. Only 22% of households have a sole male breadwinner, which means the majority of households have women working in some capacity. Women already work and contribute to half or more of the household income in 60% of families, except now we are…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:54 AM
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Whilst many are just vying for recognition and empathy, enjoyed by women. We have debutant balls, quinceañeras, menstruation parties etc. for girls. Who makes the guest list, calls everyone, plans the food, cooks and cleans afterwards? That's right, it's the women. Men can easily start their own rituals and make their own guest list, call everyone, plan the food, cook and clean afterwards. So why don't they? That's right, men want the women to do the work and then whine about "equality" when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:37 PM
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If there is no food, you will starve. If you cook something and burn down your entire apartment, it is a skill issue. If no one wants to interract with you you will starve socially. No. Please stop making comparisons of two completely different concepts that have nothing to do with each other. What is with this sub and the bad-faith arguments and comparisons? If men are rude, condescending, argumentative and disagreeable, no one has a duty to keep interacting with them at the expense of their me…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:58 PM
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These are edge cases where the argument hinges on consent. Consent is a valid reason for all parties to refuse sex work. However, attraction (or lackthereof) isn't a valid reason, especially when women are required and expected to look past their attraction to their clients and have sex anyway. If women also had a similar laundry list of conditions that must be fulfilled before they had sex, there would be no sex industry. It's also disingenuous to assume that all female sex workers work under t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:55 PM
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Wait a minute. Why should your attraction matter? Reverse the genders: Imagine female sex workers refusing to have sex with clients because they weren't attracted to them. Female sex workers routinely have to sleep with obese, smelly and/or ugly men whom they aren't attracted to. If women are expected to set aside their attraction and endure unplesurable sex for someone else's benefit, then so should the men. Only men are that entitled to require that all sex, even for someone else's benefit, mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:49 PM
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You cannot demand hyper-individualism when it comes to men's struggles but demand collectivist empathy when it comes to women's struggles. Yes, we can. Because this is a bad-faith argument comparing two separate situations that have nothing to do with each other, in order to manipulate women into dating men. Women having choice where they can't be forced into relationships anymore is a function of women's independence. Men dismantling the patriarchy and displaying the bare minimum of basic human…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:04 PM
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Now imagine the cries of "misogyny" you'd hear if men compared women to a sub optimal meal. We don't have to imagine. In a recent case, 4 boys were suspended from school for systematically rating the girls in their school. Now, find an example where girls systematically rated boys to degrade them like that. You can't, because only boys and men are that lacking in empathy. For some reason as a society we see it as a problem if men choose a self serving option that harms women as an accidental by-…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:01 PM
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