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that's a judgement that they did not make. a faceless badboy who ensures that the main event is her might have NOTHING to do with being shallow.. OR self centered..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:19 AM
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i got this.. it will just annoy you. I - on the other hand - am here all night drinking and have nothing better to do than talk to a brick wall until it resembles a being with basic communicative abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:18 AM
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that was pretty clear.. reading comprehension.. not a strong point. go back to the start. do not pass go. do not collect 200 dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:17 AM
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he is saying that OP's assessment is narrowly construed to fit a pre-existing concept. it's WAYYY to precise to be technically true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:16 AM
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HOPE TO THE ARTSY HOBOOOOOS :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:13 AM
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I feel like we KINDA agree but it's a question of degree. and my point is.. don't LIE to your voters about what you offer them and make empty promises. but NO HOLDS BARRED against the opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:12 AM
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you ever tried it? alcohol will fix getting your arm sawed off by a half drunk doctor in 1856
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:11 AM
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right here bud. im pregnant with a bucket o' chicken
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:10 AM
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Men are already shiftless bums. hey.. don't call these losers shiftless bumbs. IM a shiftless bumb.. most people are scared to truly become a shiftless bumb and live in the shelters all over the continent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:10 AM
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None other than females reinforcing patriarchy of course.. because feminists.. despite their - almost universal stated aim of dismantling patriarchy - are inexplicably so incompetent or dishonest as to have been reinforcing it all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:09 AM
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vodka fixes that. but sometimes the cure aint worth the disease
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:06 AM
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new topic: | OnlyFans and other online pay porn sites are FAR MORE ETHICAL than all other forms of porn. reason being, in the other forms, most of the actresses got ripped off for pennies and their content is free forever. so paying for content to the actress is a good thing. yet there is some crusade against it. which - to me - feels like insidious control over the ability of women to make money doing their shit..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:05 AM
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agreed. and I find a lot of these posts have the quality of being... LOGICALLY reasonable.. but the wording betrays some weird hang-up or just.. troubling mentalities
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:01 AM
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would you talk to or relate to women voluntarily? I barely hang on to the handful of relationships i have.. the only ones im looking to add are physical sexual ones.. knowhatimean?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 10:00 AM
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then just keep taking it.. it works. ur good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:59 AM
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ahh i see. thanks for the input. I was just curious if that's a thing.. like "this is my hobo, artsy husband" is that a thing for anyone? you know? I would never take or mooch.. but.. also am just curious if it's ok to bring literally NOTHING but myself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:59 AM
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hey. not every strategy works for everyone. frankly I'd criticize AOC for being TOO SAFE. and I dunno if you remember the Harris Trump campaigns. Harris' VP sorta off-the-cuff just called these Repbulicans "weird" which landed just PERFECTLY. not only was it a direct attack.. but it removed their 'seriousness' and 'gravity' simultaneously. it was working fantastically... but the machinery of the Harris (AKA biden) campaign made him put a stop to it.. thinking that getting into the weeds would ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:57 AM
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from the drunken depths of hazy day mists. stumbled one who lives to debate and nothing else no shower necessary. presentability optional this is words on a screen. the game I've been accustomed to in my generation like no other thusly the dirty stranger extended a challenge with the call of "EN GARDE"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:48 AM
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it's been 3 months... don't worry. dutasteride will work.. unless you are also pounding back oxymetholone tablets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:45 AM
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I'm gonna die alone with no one one to love me. one day i was sitting in a library reading a book about buddhism.. and this weird thought occurred to me... 'when i love someone, and they love me.. that feeling doesn't come from them.. it comes from ME.. I AM THE SOURCE OF ALL LOVE I COULD EVER EXPERIENCE"... it brought tears to my eyes and endless reassurance btw both my mother and sister have no problem with men shorter than them. and i have YET to meet a woman who GIVES A FUCK about baldness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:43 AM
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sentiment but as a man of integrity I can't endorse bullshit. but now it's about winning. will you play by all polite rules just to lose time and again to slimey fucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:42 AM
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min for the last 3 months to no avail dutasteride isn't going to give noticeable results in a handful of months. but what it WILL do is absolutely halt all future hair loss. been on it for like 5 years you might get SOME 'regrowth' which is actually just the revitalization of the thinning dying hairs that have now been freed from the choking effects of piles of DHT.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:39 AM
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A real man is a slave to women no.. a real man doesn't think about the fairer sex in such ways. counting pennies and petty grievances.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:38 AM
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question for the ladies: would you date a man who brings no economic benefit, yet takes none either? he just enjoys your company, and you, his?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 09:35 AM
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what i am saying is... so what? if you don't like the way women play the game, let a guy like me drill you in the ass... those are the two choices, son
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:31 AM
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what i am saying is... so what? if you don't like the way women play the game, let a guy like me drill you in the ass... those are the two choices, son
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:31 AM
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most important and ONLY important are two different things. ensuring children are cared for properly is.. YES.. the most important thing in society. and a close fucking second, is relieving people from the bondage of relying on arbitrary fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:24 AM
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I think that some of it is biological in a sense that they are behaviors no.. behaviours are behaviours... gender identities are 100% societally designed and assigned. biology makes tits produce milk. biology floods newborn mothers with oxytocin to encourage bonding. but NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with some idea of identity or femininity unless you DECIDE it does. It is arguable that the world is now overpopulated no.. quite the opposite. there is more than enough to go around for everyone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:23 AM
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Boo fucking hoo. I don't care. You sound like a whiney little faggot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:14 AM
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I think greed and income inequality are at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:31 PM
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People don't upheaval or some shit. You think americans would let the government boss them around like that?! stupid fat white selfish fucks almost called for armed revolution because they didn't want to politely wear a mask to help their fellow humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:27 PM
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If women dont want to be with a guy.. yeah.. if ANYONE is "at fault" .. he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:27 PM
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Mandatory workouts? Thats not a recipe for more baby making, but rather fucking massive social upheaval against being so controlled. then the next barrier is women's nature Uhhhh... if a guy is so whiney as to even THINK that... i can see why women would be put off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:23 PM
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It's simpler. No bullshit. No worrying and figuring things out and what not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:39 PM
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You're the one immersed in it.. i dunno. You said it all has specific themes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:39 PM
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You were asking why, if human mating practices are massively varied, is there a common theme on dating advice subs, etc? My answer was "because that stuff is just a specific genre of american online content"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:33 PM
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Fair enough. In that case. There ARE cases where it IS.. but not that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:24 PM
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Well congrats. Much respect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:16 PM
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Sounds like you're counting pennies..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:07 PM
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Sometimes i think... id be alright with an arrainged marriage. If shes attractive and not.. like... super crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:05 PM
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But who are you to say what "women" aught to be educated on? Maybe ur a dumbass and wrong. How do you know they aughtnt be educating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:03 PM
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doesn’t want to deal with a problem which would need women’s help as a group That's not how governmental and societal change works. You dont just make a demand of a specific demographic... You petition for lawmakers/politicians and movers and shakers to institute your agenda. No?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:59 PM
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I personally do not feel like i am in any way disadvantaged... i feel lucky. Secure. And confident. There are problems everywhere.. for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:49 PM
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I'd still consider joining the military an active role So, if someone transitions to being a woman... yet joins the military... you consider them more masculine than feminine?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:49 PM
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So its a rhetorical hack? Sounds like a small problem if one at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:48 PM
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My point is that there is a huge and fundamental difference between economic/workplace discrimination... and supposed "dating inequity discrimination"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:47 PM
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Again. Disagree. Let me ask you this. If "human mating" practices are infinitely variable, why is it the same several dozen issues coming up consistently on dating advice subs and elsewhere? Why doesn't the infinite variability appear there? Because its all one genre of american online slop content?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:35 PM
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There are many flaws. Whats one you feel you need to personally overcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:30 PM
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Neither are corporate men Yes they are. That falls within the purview of legislation and anti-discrimination laws
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:30 PM
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they aren't your kids to be dictated to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:59 PM
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Women should be reminded sounds.. super weird and fuckey.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:57 PM
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but wasn't it an even bummer deal when the birthrates were highest?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:55 PM
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ewwww. that's some fucked up shit, man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:55 PM
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okay so what's the cause again.. in your view?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:51 PM
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To the degree it affects many men, no, it’s not a matter of personal preferences anymore. Just because it affects many men doesn't mean it's not a matter of personal preferences anymore. Women expecting men to cater to their unfair preferences there is no such thing. if you don't want the deal. don't take the deal. you think society should like, somehow browbeat women into having lower standards to make men feel better about their chances?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:49 PM
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yeah. england. power is a factor. but i think communication is kinda first and foremost. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:45 PM
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Do you think a married women would take birth control if she felt secure, loved, supported, and desired children? I think she would control when and how many kids she has... yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:42 PM
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nah. good point. to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:41 PM
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who payed on the first couple dates is something I would probably forget like 2 months into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:38 PM
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when the fact that women who have more than two children become reliant upon a man for her and their survival within a society that's actively hostile to motherhood is the reason why the birth rate is low... if that were the case, why now is the birthrate lower? those problems were even MORE pronounced before. when women had like... 6 kids.. and REALLY had to rely on a man.. was society any more 'accomodating' to motherhood at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:37 PM
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i said that i had to sorta 'duke it out' as it were to pay on the last date i was on. and she let me only after we agreed she would pay next time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:34 PM
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who said im not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:28 PM
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Why would a woman choose to inflict that life on herself when she has literally anything else going for her? i feel like we are saying the same thing. women have choice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:27 PM
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If you arent getting the gentleman treatment, you just aren't worthy, child. what's the gentleman treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:26 PM
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Lol well a lot of women make poor gentlemen I'm afraid. They should do better. don't care. a gentleman would not say such a thing. :P but that's ok you dont HAVE to be one i dont pretend to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:24 PM
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.... sigh i'm trying to explain it to this youngster :) you can't be rude. or a prick. or a peice of shit. at ANY moment. it will ALWAYS be ungentlemanly. a gentleman treats EVERYONE with respect and manners. that doesn't mean you have to go overboard doing every little thing. but gentlemanly conduct is an all-encompassing thing. no? you can't put on a suit and be all prim and feel like a proper gentleman one minute.. and the next be stumbling drunk pissing on people... it's not an on-and-off sw…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:21 PM
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.... sigh i'm trying to explain it to this youngster :) you can't be rude. or a prick. or a peice of shit. at ANY moment. it will ALWAYS be ungentlemanly. a gentleman treats EVERYONE with respect and manners. that doesn't mean you have to go overboard doing every little thing for everyone all the time. but gentlemanly conduct is an all-encompassing thing. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:20 PM
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Body positivity never included male bodies. that's literally exactly what the concept of a 'dad bod' is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:17 PM
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Men should reserve being a gentlemen for someone who deserves it, not just for any person. turning it on and off means you aren't a gentleman. not how it works again.. you are welcome to not be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:15 PM
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explain
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:12 PM
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Not everyone is owed Gentlemen privileges especially if they aren't in a relationship im replying specifically to this point. gentlemanly 'priviliges' are not a thing. gentlemanliness is a duty. not a petty, quid pro quo, counting pennies endeavour dont wanna be a gentleman? dont have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:12 PM
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So there wasn't a culture and expectation of waiting for marraige, marrying young, having multiple children, wives stay and home and summit to their husband? sure there were some common themes. but the people that came over were from all sorts of different groups. pilgrims... different types of protestants. catholics. some people practiced arranged marriages. some didn't.. etc. etc. Alright, this why bluepill men are worse then feminist women you haven't heard of female vikings warriors? female …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:10 PM
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quit dodging and answer it :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:07 PM
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ive seen more men like that tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:06 PM
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just because it exists in a person somewhere somehow doesn't mean it is a big driving force in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:06 PM
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a gentleman doesn't expect anything in return. THAT is the essence of gentlemanly conduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:03 PM
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What smaller cultures did in America is irrelevant to AMERICA CULTURE and was was expected broadly. that's my point. there WAS NEVER ONE EXPECTED THING IN AMERICA. ITS ALWAYS BEEN DIVERSE. it's a figment of your imagination. It's well known that feminism worked because women no longer needed to depend on men for protection and prevision. did women need to depend on men for protection? humans are powerful through communication and collaboration. a woman can organize and fight with others just lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:01 PM
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but men get jacked to impress other men mostly.. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:56 PM
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maybe she could just tell your attitude brought it down a bunch of notches
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:53 PM
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I can say the women who approach me first are deluded. why not take a shot? bruh. calm down adonys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:52 PM
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well than wth you talking about its genetically naturally not to be attracted to a larger woman? you just made that up because YOU aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:49 PM
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Initiating, providing and protecting has ben the male role since the beginning, yes. you are an anthropologist? or a pulled-it-out-of-my-ass-ist? I say just America and you bring up other cultures once again. ALL THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN AMERICA... and their diverse roles and mating practices are varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:48 PM
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I don’t see what trans women have to do with anything. "there's basically no such institution that is ready to be empowered by men taking up a female gender role." so then i mentioned just that case. and they're not preferring trans women over cis men. they want every acceptable candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:47 PM
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in dating is not is not better than men expecting women to conform to outdated standards in the corporate world. yes it is.. one is a matter of personal taste and personal lives. the other is an issue of economic and political equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:45 PM
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Wanting the privilege of modernity without the reasonability is selfish. you can want whatever you want. you just want what you want. you might not get it. i think all wants are.. by definition... selfish? id you even read OP's post? She said Gender expectations is what's causing the dating problem when in reality, it's the one sided expectation that's causing it. oh yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:44 PM
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so.. what you are saying.. is that since men have to entice women to date them.. it logically and fairly follows that women have to cow tow to mens desire in the working world? and that sounds just and fair? and not retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:41 PM
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And if women want to make careers, they have to conform to the expectations of men, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:38 PM
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but the fact that not all people, even WITHIN one society, are attracted to the same features is pretty good evidence that it's not genetically determined. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:37 PM
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but average doesn't mean anything. the mere fact that there is variance kinda already disproves your point.. let alone that those averages are different for each culture
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:32 PM
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How do you propose we genetically engineer men who are naturally attracted to fat obese women? there are already cultures that find that attractive. just grow up there. dont even need genetic engineering plus a good chunk of guys ALREADY find that attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:30 PM
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.... dude ... it's not ALL learned. but.. some cultures find long necks beautiful and women put those rings on to lengthen them. the mayans thought bent skulls were beautiful so they molded the skulls of children. i think it's more accurate to say that our REACTION to the more-or-less socially determined beauty standards is instinctive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:30 PM
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Even if we just stuck with America it's trad to American Culture. also, america is diverse. what were native traditions? what about the amish? the greeks? some people have arranged marriages.. the mormons had multiple wives... there's a whole plethory of 'male female gender roles' and methods of courtship within just america
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:25 PM
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It is trad as that's how it's been throughout all human history. so you mean to tell me that men were expected to pursue women and pay for dates for all human history? :0 No, i don't shame men for not throwing their lives away for a random women on the street because they're women. well I do. just when walking down the street if it looks like a strong person is beating someone weaker.. yeah im gunna make it my business. I can't walk past that. it would hurt me more to walk past that than to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:24 PM
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No, i don't shame men for not throwing their lives away for a random women on the street because they're women. well I do. just when walking down the street if it looks like a strong person is beating someone weaker.. yeah im gunna make it my business. I can't walk past that. it would hurt me more to walk past that than to get some lumps and bumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:22 PM
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Women expecting Trad treatment while wanting to be behavior modern is selfish, correct. why? people can expect whatever they want. women can WANT men to wear pink tutu's and carry them up flights of stairs and in exchange the women want to smoke cigars and chuckle at farts. so? I don't see how that is selfish really. The problem of dating isn't Gender role expectations and Heteronormative norms. The problem is that women expect the Trad Masculine role but reject their Trad Feminine role while si…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:21 PM
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there's basically no such institution that is ready to be empowered by men taking up a female gender role. many institutions, such as the military, etc. are rapidly modernizing and making adjustments to accomodate trans women. so.. yeah institutions ARE doing that. traditional male roles are far harder to break than traditional female roles. in some ways, but it's not the ROLE that's hard to break, because a role is just an idea. it's just that ACTING a certain way in relation to that might be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:17 PM
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then don't do it. no one is making you do anything. but if you don't get what you want out of the opposite sex, you can't just MAKE them change. you gotta entice them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:11 PM
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wanting you to change them to accomodate you is selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:10 PM
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No amount of brain washing would ever make the average man want obese women that's most likely a culturally mediated thing. standards of beauty vary by culture
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:10 PM
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we have been genetically engineering crops and dogs for millenia.. what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:09 PM
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Ahhh so you hate profit. Profit is a measure of efficiency. it's the exact opposite. profit represents the taking out of the creative process to be just placed away and wasted. That is why the modern American "poor" live better than any king or queen did 200 years ago. no we live better because of technology. people like isaac newton, gallileo, einstein, da vinci, etc. and they didn't do it for money. they just loved what they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:08 PM
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there are very few fair fights. usually someone is very going to win
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:05 PM
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isn't gender roles but that men are expected to do their role while women reject their role? there are no ACTUAL roles tho... it's all made up
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:03 PM
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As stared in the post, men are expected to be the ones to pursue women and pay for the dates and even protect them. that's not trad. that's just our culture. it's not like that in finland or germany, etc. Men are online are shamed when a video comes out of them not helping some random women on the street from an attack. I would shame anyone for that.. wouldnt you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:02 PM
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The problem is that women expect the Trad Masculine role but reject their Trad Feminine role while simultaneously demonizing masculinity. yep the fact it's hard to date is womens' fault. selfish.. not doing things the way YOU want them done... the nerve
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:01 PM
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A single person can't swim against an entire culture, they can try tho. A man who wants to get swiped on...requires woman to swipe first, which is almost never going to happen. you can deal with reality as it is while also working to mentally deconstruct gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:59 PM
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but it's impossible to step outside of your cultural framework and judge things 'fresh' so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:55 PM
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ALL partner selection is discriminative.. so is friend selection. you aren't allowed to decide who your friends are? you have to give everyone FAIR CHANCE? that sounds ridiculous it's basically no one elses fucking business who you choose to date and be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:44 PM
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uhh.. WHAT?! that's totally different. that's an issue of discrimination. just being butthurt about women having higher standards is some weak-ass complainy bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:39 PM
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nobody deserves anything. you attract what you attract
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:36 PM
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soooo? why is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:35 PM
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ahh ok.. fair enough. unique problem requires unique solution. good thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:34 PM
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but why would that become a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:33 PM
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woah speak for urself there duuuude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:32 PM
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but it becomes one if women adhere to gender expectations for men while exploiting feminism and claiming that criticizing their expectations equals to toxic masculinity and oppression. why would the opinions of some women become a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:31 PM
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so.. attractiveness. emotions. none of that? or are you just saying pure dick lust is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:30 PM
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what is a relationship? how does it work? how is it negotiated and mediated? how can you even have a large group of people in one place at one time in an orderly manner? communication. if one fucker tries to just dominate through 'power' - whatever that means - he won't have power for long. because everyone will be like 'fuck that douche' communication is the source of even power.. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:29 PM
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right. neither person is jealous of the other.. or feels taken advantage of.. as long as it's an equal proper relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:24 PM
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yeah, why let emotions and feelings guide you to a partner as has been done for billions of years when you can pull out a checklist and perform mathematic equations!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:22 PM
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so after fighting for the right to vote. and work. and own things. and divorce. and have social standing. after all that just so that they can feel self sufficient... they just wanna go be "catered" to again and infantilized? sounds legit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:19 PM
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feelings are just feelings. they are neither right nor wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:17 PM
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feminism pretended that if women were free they'd do the right thing like not being shallow, reverse gender roles, that men had to police each others and change to enable that. So men and society have changed, waiting for women to police each others and change. :))) did it? i dunno. sounds pretty made up.. but it's a side issue anyway. You know that pointing things out doesn't mean you must have a solution for your observations to be right, right? so, ok.. maybe women are pickier now. prolly are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:05 PM
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:D good for a "i cant fall asleep.. and am still drunk" kinda night how many do you think are trolls? vs like disinformation actors? vs like.. even bots?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:55 PM
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Pickier women don't have kids yeah but what's the solution? make them lower their standards? that's literally the shittiest option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:54 PM
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what does women growing pickier have to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:51 PM
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oh my god. a reasonable person. and.. the discussion will end here while i endlessly goof around with trolls. bahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:50 PM
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Almost as if I told you exactly that. fair. thats true. it hasn't trickled down to the main metropolis' yet. Do you often personally attakc people debating on a debate place? im just asking.. what's the problem with women growing pickier? my first thought is "as well they should. good for them"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:46 PM
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so she has to RELY on some guy? rather than be made whole by society at large?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:43 PM
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Some people argue that it is a deviation rather than an evolution to have women acting like men. our ideas of 'masculinity' and 'femininity' are social constructs unique to our exact culture at this exact time and place. It certainly creates a lot of conflict in the dating and marriage world. how so>?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:42 PM
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fair. upon rethinking it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:41 PM
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There are actual societal tendencies for women to not want to pair with men anymore and to grow more picky good. good on them. you threatened by that? how is their housing going? Bet it's not great. each country is different. in several of them, there are wastelands of properties that can't be GIVEN away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:41 PM
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nono. but the tone of your message was that of "HOW DARE YOU DEMEAN MEN AS A WHOLE?!" that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:35 PM
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Cool story bro. The relevance? my point was, ok a person said or believed something wild.. so? It's not shrinking YET. only because of immigration. it's on the horizon. and in italy, south korea, china, japan it IS shrinking RAPIDLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:32 PM
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But my point is why does she need to catch up in a job market? need is irrelevant. she is fundamentally at a disadvantage for being half of the child making equation in a way that men simply are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:31 PM
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alot of horrible things were normal back then. we've evolved as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:28 PM
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well aren't we a judgy little party pooper. no pun intended
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:28 PM
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CLASSIC alpha dominant move. claim greatness at everything. dodge the first challenge at anything. solid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:26 PM
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k. i'll send the link, lets play chess.com. lets talk in chat to handle the logistics
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:23 PM
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Some women are. some everythings are everything. i met a guy on the bus who called jesus JEEEBUS. and explained his name is YESHUA. so? it was one random guy Since people are not making enough kids, I'm already growing in a society where food and housing is getting unaffordable by the day, and my kids are going to have it even worse. well technically a shrinking population will free up a lot of housing...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:14 PM
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cmon man.. light me up good. use ur superior brain juices
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:08 PM
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Nope, because im superior to you ahh fuck... you said it... it must be true.. FUCK hey lets find a way to compete. you play chess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:08 PM
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OF COURSE. I KNEW IT. I KNEW THE NAZIS WERE RIGHT. its a conspiracy to destroy the natural order of mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:07 PM
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can you light me up more tho? like... a roast
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:06 PM
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In nature without government interference, women need men because they are less capable, thats how attraction and mating is wired for them. in nature. without government interference everyone needs everyone. societies operate like a collective all relying on each other for everything. no puzzle piece is more or less crucial. believe me, a flint axe can be sunk into your head by a woman or a boy or a man all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:06 PM
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at what? i've wrestled with women that choked my ass out. and you'd be even easier game. you think you can shoot better? nope. are you smarter? FUCK no. more reliable? no.. more personable? no... funner to be around.. no.. why do i want you in the trench, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:04 PM
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every loss whets my appetite for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:03 PM
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That means that womens desire for men is connected to how much she needs him and what he can do for her. no it starts with attraction. hormones. emotions. physical animalistic shit :D With the government we have essentially made the state a surrogate husband so women are less dependent on men. And because of that, women dont want most men you mean since women aren't forced to rely on men, now they have choice and should be forced back into - basically - servitude? nah.. im good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:02 PM
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That means that womens desire for men is connected to how much she needs him and what he can do for her. no it starts with attraction. hormones. emotions. physical animalistic shit :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 03:01 PM
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:P are you getting a paycheque for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:58 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:57 PM
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i was there. i guarantee you would be a fucking soup sandwich and i'd take ANY of the women on my platoon to watch my back over you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:57 PM
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This way women and men will pair up more often again and bring back the birthrates to stable numbers as well. why would this make women and men pair up more? i thought the main factors for - pair bonding - were emotional and like... driven by desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:56 PM
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I know. and STILL they cheat at it. separating the palms to get the greasy thumb-pin-swoop. The population has expanded in insane numbers. We can stand to have some people that live their life without producing children. There are enough people who want children to keep the human race alive. actually im more concerned about depopulation in the long run but yeah i support peoples' freedom to live as they see fit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:55 PM
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i see men everywhere all the time. EVERYWHERE... ALL THE TIME. they aren't undervalued... whatever that means. no one is thinking "ahh these fucken guys. every single one of them are pointless" and if women don't wanna pair with guys.. who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:53 PM
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When women argue for feminism, they usually tend to blame men as a collective. made up characterization Men then also as a collective need to be appreciated for their inventions. your slack ass doesn't deserve credit for the greatness of geniuses. And no, women would not be able to do it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:46 PM
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explain invisiblized again.. you mean they are inviziblised because they dont have customer service jobs... or?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:45 PM
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none that i've dated
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:44 PM
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Women are not even close to men in their ability to be soldiers some of the toughest people on my platoon in training were women. we ALL had to carry the same load for the big 3 hour ruck march. from the biggest guy to the 5 foot 3 inch girl. and everyone finished it. they can shoot just as good. hide just as good. think just as quickly and decisively... bullets dont discriminate, and even a baby can pull a trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:43 PM
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you sound it. more humble. reasonable. and emotionally balanced, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:41 PM
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'traditional' family structures aren't going to bring back birth rates. the entire economic and political and societal situation has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:41 PM
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Relationships between large groups of people depend on power no they depend on communication
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:38 PM
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... soooo? people aren't allowed to be hypocrites?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:36 PM
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the issue he's pointing out is that these feelings are often extreme but completely baseless feelings are never baseless or wrong. feelings are feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:31 PM
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i believe in freedom from interference when it makes sense. and i believe in freedom to act, other times. i wouldn't say it's a wide ranging ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:29 PM
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well then we just fundamentally disagree on the entire philosophy of how government should be run. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:25 PM
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it wasnt a straw man it was an analogy to elucidate a point. do you think a cake baker should be allowed to not serve black people if they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:23 PM
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give an actual example. im saying if you restrict people from being allowed to own other human beings, yes you are infringing upon their rights. but you are freeing the rights of the enslaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:19 PM
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i dont need fancy words to understand the arguments here. restricting people from acting in oppressive ways is - overall - being LESS restrictive in total there are plenty of restrictions against murder.. slavery. etc. etc. Eg men make the individual decision to pay women less as women are seen (regardless of whether it's warranted, or sexist bias) as less competent -> patriarchy. that's ONE aspect of it. it's an entire overarching system. economic. cultural. educational. religious. governmental…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:18 PM
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i dont need fancy words to understand the arguments here. restricting people from acting in oppressive ways is - overall - being LESS restrictive in total
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:16 PM
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OH MY GOD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:14 PM
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To defeat patriarchy so that we can all be equal at last, you have to restrict agency of people to act freely when you restrict restricters are you restricting or freeing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:14 PM
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what state did lorenna bobbit come from? mrs snippy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:13 PM
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okay but i dont think men are 'invisiblized' in any way that adds some kind of depth to social analysis. it's like if by invisiblised you mean they might have a tendency towards less customer facing jobs that's maybe TECHNICALLY something you could call invisiblization. but like they are the heroes in movies. and the presidents. and prime ministers.. its not like guys are off in the corner of society with no, like, recognition or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:09 PM
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oh shit you were serious! im sorry. i thought you were joking.. eep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:06 PM
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I DONT STARE LIKE A CREEPSTER... but like... i 'focus' if you know what i mean... it's not like i dont notice. i also think and focus on all the guys around too.. but again. i dont gawk at people like a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:05 PM
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ahh. fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:02 PM
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dentists are always women? farmers always men? i thought farms were an entire family endeavour
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:49 PM
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The man who grew the food or the female cashier? you do know that.. male cashiers exist, right? The man who built the school or the female teacher? you do know that.. male teachers and female construction workers exist.. right? How is not being paid for a labor invisibilising? bruh.. if someone in a lab coat says "jack off into this" that is payment enough :P But it isn't INVISIBILISED. we are getting better, but there are still invisiblized labour. let's say she tidies up and cooks a meal. that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:47 PM
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people are messy and we kinda evolve clunkily and haphazardly. im not sure there is a wide spread problematic female unfair double standard or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:29 PM
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people are messy and we kinda evolve clunkily and haphazardly. im not sure there is a wide spread problematic female unfair double standard or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:29 PM
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okay let me use a different example. should there be subsidized daycare? it would help a lot of people. so if you think its good, then we can vote for it and the government will rustle up the funds to do it. if you think paying someone a salary to stay home with toddlers is worthy to do and helps society in general, then you can vote for that and the government will rustle up the funds to do it. neither is 'right' or 'wrong' its a judgement call
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:26 PM
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I said a financial incentive to break the marriage contract exists for non earning spouses under current law. yeah that is correct, if what you say about alimony is true. but i thought we were talking about how to.. like.. ensure healthier relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:21 PM
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If you can’t afford to stay home, you don’t stay home. You don’t get to make a choice you can’t afford and expect taxpayers to subsidize it. this is a question of priorities though. i could easily say: if you want to drive on the road, that's your choice, the tax payer shouldn't pay for YOUR roads. why aren't you arguing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:20 PM
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If you can’t afford to stay home, you don’t stay home. You don’t get to make a choice you can’t afford and expect taxpayers to subsidize it. this is a question of priorities though. i could easily say: if you want to drive on the road, that's your choice, the tax payer shouldn't pay for YOUR roads. why aren't you arguing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:20 PM
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before they expect men to become better. in EVERY way? i mean you can just expect them not to be creepsters, etc. and have no obligation to like do anything first or in return. but if you mean just, like in general... i guess everybody could be better. and everybody would have to reflect to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:18 PM
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chumps? umm.. weird, but ok.... ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:15 PM
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damn, dude. yeah that's fucked up, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:14 PM
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you REALLY seem to think the biggest most key issue causing single parent homes, divorce rates and relationship degradations in society is: alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:12 PM
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so ur just gunna both work and send little timmy to.. daycare or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:12 PM
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ot of women do foster a society that leads to men feeling unheard, hurt, and insecure in ways they're not emotionally equipped to understand due to how much they were stunted as kids. im not sure that's from women. that's a big wide ranging pop culture social issue. and last i checked women werent running government, economies, and the tv stations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:11 PM
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Schools can’t even get proper classroom supplies and basic public services are underfunded, that's not because there ain't money out there. it's just not being spent on that. You don’t get to make that choice and then insist taxpayers should replace the income you chose to give up. actually i think thats fair. because tax payers are parents too.. so they will also benefit from it..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:09 PM
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i would think its deeper than that and stems from childhood issues. but thats an entire society issue. how can we give people all the supports possible at a young age?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:08 PM
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ive not seen that and why is this a big issue for you exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:06 PM
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There are already mechanisms to help from marriage counselling to divorce. It just so happens that the way things are currently set up one party is financially incentivised to break the marriage contract. that's putting a bandaid on a broken limb. it prolly mostly stems from economics.. stresses to do with money. issues of deprivation, all the ways in which people are pushed down (like with the criminal justice system) and oppressive working conditions, complete distrust in politics and governme…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:05 PM
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what do you think drives sexual violence? a deep rooted belief that women are worth less. and these guys want to exercise control. how the hell is like.. 'being nicer to him' gunna help fix that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:03 PM
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okay.. it was an ANALOGY meant to show a logical relationship. Ill just skip the analogy and say that: telling women to treat men better in order to stop things like sexual violence, ETC. is INSANE. it's like saying THEY are partly to blame for being victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:01 PM
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what does dating have to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:00 PM
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If women want to blame men as a collective they dont. maybe one person is ridiculous. i dont see how that becomes a focal point and big issue like all the inventions that men have created that was created by people like isaac newton. not you and women WERENT ALLOWED TO BE INVENTORS
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:58 PM
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plus they're icky and have cooties
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:58 PM
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how does this 'ruin society' there, himmler?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:57 PM
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in what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:57 PM
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on the one hand, this is not a bad argument. but whats all this "It also means women's gravy train and validation train are going off the rails." business? sounds kinda.. sexist and pointlessly enflamatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:56 PM
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well how important is a wall street speculator? negative. sometimes they destroy the economy.. what about garbage men? very important. each job is technically different in how the pay was determined.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:54 PM
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thats what i meant. its one pot. equally controlled
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:53 PM
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they're going to have to be prepared to be better to us as well but that's kind of like saying.. if chattel slaves want to be freed and no longer oppressed, they are gunna have to stop oppressing the plantation owners too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:52 PM
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They'll drop as men are more able to talk about their grievances and become more emotionally complex beings that take consent seriously once theirs is also taken seriously, ... are you kidding me? victim blaming much? ted bundy became a serial killer because he wasn't taken seriously and properly understood
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:50 PM
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how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:46 PM
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On average men naturally produce more testosterone than the average woman giving them a biological advantage when placed against the average woman. at arm wrestling? super important
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:44 PM
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to be rewarded for being the superior soldiers. men are not superior soldiers. a gun is a gun is a gun
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:44 PM
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I’ve heard feminists make that claim before, so you once heard a feminist say something you disagree with and are just kinda... angrily arguing into the wind about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:43 PM
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PLUS FEMINISM IS EVIL AND DESTROYING SOCIETY!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:41 PM
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In general the more important a job is for society to function and the harder it is (which means less supply in addition to the high demand) will make those jobs have higher salaries nope. not even close. it's JUST supply and demand. basically. and unions. and labour laws. and regulations. and bureaucracies. and market dynamics. and that's just for salaries, let alone being ACTUALLY wealthy and owning land or stocks, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:38 PM
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superior capabilities i guess you are an example of one of these 'superior beings' ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:37 PM
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if men are expected to still be traditional, then women need to also be traditional why? not necessarily. you can expect whatever you damn well please. doesn't mean you will get it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:36 PM
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Individual preferences aggregate into social norms. there are many sources of social norms. it's not so simple. a lot of the time they come from authority or power structures. the media. the church. business big wigs, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:34 PM
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ok obviously you are just trolling.. but.. im bored: The patriarchy is natural due to biology, so this is just a fact. says who? where? how? explain they are less capable than men, at what? being dumbasses on the internet? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:31 PM
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Feminist men are often full of internalized misandry and don't give a fuck too about men's problem. well you aren't a particularly endearing figure who inspires people to care about mens problems.. quite the opposite, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:30 PM
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Society would literally stop working in like 1-3 days if men stopped working, only certain men.. possibly. you don't get to piggy back onto that category and feel special and super fancy useful man guy bro
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:28 PM
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most feminists did you do a survey? or...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:26 PM
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ultimtely the majority of feminists care only about their benefits. what type of feminism are we talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:25 PM
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so ur point is there are at least one feminists that would - in these hypotheticals - not like the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:25 PM
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okay i was being a bit obtuse ill just say what i meant. are you sure of its widespread influence? because ive never seen my sister watch it. my neices. nor my mother. i frankly dont even know what it IS
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:16 PM
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yeah sure you and this imaginary woman are both equally wrong..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:15 PM
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first i never said harassment is why women don't work in certain fields. but i DID say that there are many issues still with regards to harassment, and a slow-to-change culture that is hostile to women. "sexual harassment continues to be a problem in Canadian workplaces, and organizations are not doing enough to address it. A 2022 report by the Canadian Labour Congress indicates nearly one in two workers have experienced sexual harassment in the previous two years. A large part of the problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:14 PM
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oh. i thought it would be an entry into deeper dialogue about identities and why we have them and should we just accept tradition or take control of our own definitions?, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:09 PM
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tbh the cheating isn't actually the bad thing.. it's his obviously fucked up attitude...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:08 PM
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it's the moral framework that western civilization was built on is 'western civilization' even one actual definable thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:05 PM
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whats the purpose of posting said escapades?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:05 PM
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do you split it like that? "well, the market values me at 50 bucks an hour, and you at 15 bucks an hour.. so this big pile is MINE.. and that is YOURS" but the question isn't how much society out there values your time. but how much YOU value her time. do you feel like your time is worth more than hers? doesn't every dollar go into a big pot and nobody plays petty games?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 12:03 PM
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as long as men are stronger and have more testosterone, the heavy physical work is mostly gonna be done by them what about the small guys tho? the biggest men only can be lumberjacks? but small guys have to be seamstresses? i guess if you think everyone is a blank slate and are all equally capable of the exact same things, inequality is baked into our species. the things that matter, yeah. do marathons matter? no. and a woman can pick up a rifle and shoot you just as easily as a guy could.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:59 AM
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lot of women who are vehemently against gender roles turn out to be instead vehemently against female gender roles only, uhhh? did you make that up? can you give an example of what you mean? who said this to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:58 AM
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ever heard of.. the word.. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:56 AM
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uhhh.. what? basically what you said was.. "i stubbed my toe... GOD DAMNED FEMINISTS"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:55 AM
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really? i feel like its a pretty important mindset to adapt.. it seems true to me and makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:54 AM
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what does pay gap have to do with workplace harassment, hostile historically male dominated workplace cultures, etc. etc. ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:52 AM
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sure. but i dont care. i think, frankly it makes MORE sense.. but tbh yeah unsubstantiated claims are the same regardless. but even like the framing of reinforce my point that these women are bullshitting about matriarchy just that wording reeks of some kind of axe to grind or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:51 AM
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you said society eats femslop content. so i was like, what femslop content? you are hooked on it? give me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:49 AM
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But I know enough about Goldin's research on the pay gap to know there isn't any boys club keeping them out of any field in this day and age. just because you can't purposely not hire them doesn't mean there aren't a fuck ton of workplaces that are still, to this day, hostile to women and rife with harassment issues, etc. Oh Sean Connery said something once. That's excellent evidence lol. it's evidence of how recent such things were completely normal and ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:48 AM
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There is no reason to believe that humans are predisposed to that system of that if would be any better if we were. we aren't predisposed to ANY type of system. there are myriad systems all over the earth that are constantly changing and evolving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:46 AM
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you eat femslop content?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:45 AM
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imagine piloting a massive ship. yeah, we turned the rudder. but the ship is slow to actually move in the desired direction. They still don't want to enter those fields. is it because of the previous legacy of what happened? is it because women wouldn't want to anyway? is it just a cultural preference? if its a cultural preference, where did it come from? Lol you just blame everthing on men. no. just because women have been horribly oppressed for like a thousand years doesn't mean I blame "men" …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:44 AM
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Okay, but none of that means the homemaker should be paid the salary they could’ve earned. fair.. but i don't see that as a problem. seems alright. yeah id vote for that. If your household can’t afford a stay at home parent, then both parents work. Wanting that lifestyle doesn’t mean someone else owes it to you. there is more than enough wealth and economic productivity in society to allow people to stay at home and raise their kids. rather than consigning them to struggles, both working and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:26 AM
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so what do you think sexism WAS... when did it go away, and where are we now with regards to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:53 AM
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we are speaking about two different negativities. one is just standard, life sucks everywhere for everything. and the other is systemic sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:44 AM
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so are you saying theres no more sexism? problem solved?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:38 AM
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i am 100% arguing that being a stay at home parent means 2 things 1) all the money is jointly owned completely. 2) in addition, the government should be supportive of that and yeah if they stay at home they are losing out on a career, etc. so they can be a good parent. they arent doing it selfishly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:37 AM
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i dont mean in personal lives. just.. oppression still exists for women in a lot of ways. i mean.. im not a woman so i cant say i have personal experience, but... there's still a lot of issues all over the place. toxic work environments, harassment, etc. double standards with regards to sexual propriety... a whole bunch of things and actually money is a huge part of oppression of all kinds
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:28 AM
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no but.. wait.. what? you just fried my brain. my point was that just because there are some cases where a guy works and brings home a big paycheque and treats his wife like a queen doesnt mean oppression doesnt exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:22 AM
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i mean here. angloamerica
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:08 AM
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also.. men like christopher columbus just uhh.. stole women.. whenever they wanted. im sure they treated them like princesses tho
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:07 AM
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Feminist type women always project this image that the women are the victims. no they say we are all victims of this constraining of identity roles. both men AND women... but i digress It's the opposite of being oppressed just because there are some cases where guys work a bunch and like have a trophy wife doesn't mean everything is totally even stevens after centuries of ... i mean christ, women couldnt VOTE until what.. like 1920!? and not long before that they were considered the property of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:05 AM
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That's the thing about the internet. You never know who you're talking to. If you knew anything about my circumstances you'd understand why this is so. im just.. how do you even KNOW that many people?! Nope, it is incentivising them to tackle the actual issues rather than run away from them. what if the issue cant be tackled by little individual families? what if it is an economic issue? Without marriage, relationships tend to not last as long, not be as stable, not be as supportive to children,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:01 AM
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The reason women vote overwhelmingly left and for more government interference and welfare is because they are overly dependent on it, unlike men. umm. you'd have to dig into polling and shit. i follow politics reasonably closely.. educated in it and all that bs.. but uhh. i think its more about, much like the jewish community tends to vote left, it's about compassion and wanting a government that takes care of people instead of shitting on the environment and giving tax cuts to guys that are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:58 AM
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I've personally known hundreds. you know personally HUNDREDS of people who have sworn off marriage because of the way alimony works? ... believable Disincentivising divorce is not remotely the same thing as outlawing divorce. disincentivising, outlawing it's all coming from the wrong angle. that approach is akin to just forcing people to stay married instead of tackling the actual issues that put stress on families and drive them apart. A made up thing that delivers the most positive outcome for…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:50 AM
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what does welfare have to do with quote "women being less capable and INSTINCTIVELY requiring from men" ? that makes it sound like an ancient genetic trait... not like.. economic statistics on government welfare spending... kind of a different topic.. no? Its women by far is that even tru?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:45 AM
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oh good point. your argument is as follows: 'make my argument for me pls"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:43 AM
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If we want fewer divorces, a fairer divorce system, more stable marriages, etc. yes, it is currently very bad indeed. why do i want fewer divorces? frankly id be ok if marriage didnt exist anymore. its a made up thing. It causes fewer marriages because more people opt out of marriage as they see that it does not deliver fair outcomes in the event of a breakdown and one party is heavily financially incentivized to break that contract at the expense of the other party. have you heard of a SINGLE p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:43 AM
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firstly, okay u must be trolling.. but fuck it. im bored. its very obvious based on gender evolutionary psychology that is words... explain how its 'obvious based on gender evolutionary psychology' also, what do you even mean by solipsistic? do you just mean to say selfish or self centered? they are less capable on their own so that's why they instinctively require so much from men ive seen quite the opposite in my life. dunno bout you. my GF in highschool moved out at 16 and never moved back ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:40 AM
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i didnt even start debating. my first point was "can you post these studies?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:38 AM
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But is absolutely is an incentive for divorce is that bad? That's not good for society, not good for earning spouses, and a significant factor in why there are fewer marriages, fewer children born in wedlock, and why so many divorces still occur. i don't know what 1950's husband-works-at-a-law-firm wife is a homemaker world you think this is.. but everyone is just struggling to get by as far as i can tell. why would it cause fewer marriages?! and who cares if kids are born out of wedlock? are yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:35 AM
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so alimony is bad? or? i kinda see the logic. especially if kids are involved. when you get married you become one economic entity. and make all sorts of societal and legal comitments. so alimony just ensures that the life that both partners became accustomed to in their marriage continues to be enjoyed by both partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:28 AM
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DAMNIT. you win this round. but i'll be back. oh post the research plspls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:24 AM
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They aren't government benefits, they are payments from the earning spouse to the non-earning spouse. ahh yeah alimony.. i missed that. and its not earning/non earning its.. earning more to earning less. if she makes more, she pays alimony. iirc. But they could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in a rocky marriage. that sounds like a bandaid that had to be ripped off anyways. Pretty sure you wouldn't be saying that if it referred to minorities, women, the disabled, etc. depends on the qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:22 AM
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High value men what the hell is even that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:17 AM
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If men who want children are not more valuable than those who don't, then why do all famous and powerful men have children? thats like asking "if all cabbages are green usually, howcome my fridge is too warm sometimes?" huh? that's incoherent. 1) famous and powerful doesn't mean valuable 2) valuable is a silly term. valuable to who? themselves? their family? you? me? 3) even if every 'valuable' man has children that STILL doesn't mean that men who don't want them are less valuable. could be coin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:16 AM
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money. fitness. all that is nice.. but nothing papers over doooogggg shit views
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:12 AM
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frankly id be more enthused about the woman. if she wants kids, ok. if not.. ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:10 AM
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It means that the system is set up so that it incentivizes non-earners to divorce i dont think any little dinky government welfare benefits are going to ruin an otherwise good marriage. they seem more a way to give women in vulnerable positions of not having a job or a car or an income who have been raising 2 kids the ability to leave the guy who has the job and money and car. A fairer system would see a more even distribution of instigators of divorce. who knows. sometimes the numbers just are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:08 AM
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its definitely a tract
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:01 AM
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I think success itself creates a halo effect this. its not just dating success. that works with ALL kinds of success. wealth, social standing, work success, fame. two guys could be carbon copy douches of each other, one with money, the other not.. and the money will make him admirable and worth listening to for advice.. whereas the other guy is just a prick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:59 AM
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men wouldn't find this inappropriate or creepy? nah. id just. extricate myself from the situation when i got to my bus stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:55 AM
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"hardcore feminists" dont want ANYONE to 'cater for their needs'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:53 AM
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Strip clubs are for confident men, confident in their sexuality i think you mean to say gay clubs. those are for men confident in their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:51 AM
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but you can definitely make a man uncomfortable if you're obnoxiously drunk and grabby a random strange woman could, out of nowhere, climb me like a mountain and sit on my head for no apparent reason. and i'd be like "well.. this is interesting"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:48 AM
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And, in today's climate, when a man is out and about, he is not typically focusing on any women around him. ?! what ARE you focusing on? the clouds?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:45 AM
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How would you then as a guy prefer to be approached by this woman? any way she wants. hopefully she can hold small talk better than me :) we are kinda like golden retrievers. just happy either way. you could be bold and be like "hey good lookin, here's my number, call me maybe" or you could start talking about the weather. either way we will have the dumb happy golden retriever look and be like "wow.. this is awesome"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:38 AM
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of course. they been holdin' back the impoverished and downtrodden since day one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:37 AM
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because it's easier than like.. doing something really creative and thoughtful and romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:30 AM
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Is the man's youth not precious? nah. you get older and distinguished, get a dad bod and can still have kids at 90 Is this what you teach your sons? i'd teach them to be thoughtful and nice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:28 AM
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Youth is overrated you are fertile into your hundreds. not so for the fairer sex it isn’t some prize to be won but i get it if women seek commitment and seriousness and think FUCK, I WASTED 10 YEARS ON A NOTHING BURGER
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:26 AM
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news flash. EVERYONE CARES ABOUT MONEY. ITS MAGICAL TICKETS THAT MAKE HAPPENINGS HAPPEN
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:25 AM
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i know you are but what am i
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:24 AM
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Women only consider their own situation and never the mans. uhhh? did you take a survey.. or... have one bad relationship and. that's formed the entire foundation of your ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:23 AM
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Men wanting sex is not greed because let me stop you right there... because.. you just made that up. of course that can be a form of greed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:22 AM
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What the absolute fuck. You think so unjustifiably highly of women. even if that is true.. so? what do you care if someone thinks highly of someone else? are you in a tissy and finding something to be pissed about after the fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:21 AM
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"that's because being with a man romantically cost a woman more than it costs him." the cost is trust. and commitment. he can always fuck off and leave her with a heavy bag. raising a kid that he didnt even know he made. so she has the burden of judging that in her partner. the likelihood of that happening, etc. whereas he just has to be like "she's hot.. and we get along"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:16 AM
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They only care about status when they're competing for women. Full stop. not true at all.. pick your poison. some want glory. self aggrandizement, respect, power, money. it's not just to get women. not at all.. i dont think so anyways... they seem to be pretty focused on the status in-and-of-itself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:14 AM
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first this has to be a troll post. but i'll bite. They generally just play the role they've been conditioned to play by their parents and society without any real awareness or agency. that's just called. EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING. Society also tends to coddle and protect them from having to face harsh realities it's quite the opposite. they are confronted with harsher realities earlier than men and more often. while im being fat stupid guy sleeping on the bus without a care in the world. the girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:12 AM
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only if things start looking... sketchy.. otherwise.. WHAT?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:07 AM
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A man could give some of his paycheck to a woman as an allowance. nice.. and if she does her chores she gets a bonus allowance? thanks daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:03 AM
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f My husband's employer fucks him over and I don't have a job then we're both gonna get fucked. and have more time to do so.. amirite? ill.. see myself out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:03 AM
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Because we had equality for tens of thousands of years. we did? or did you.. just.. make that up? :P Patriarchy (the most commonly stable form of society and thus artificial equality) is basically the framework under which the social/moral construct is enforced and maintained. nope. not even close. every society is different. So it would be unbearable to make everything fair. really? you would be pissed if you just were given a chunk of random rich-ass Saudi prince's dough? you would say HEY THI…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:59 AM
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but right now society eats femslop content like it's available for a limited time you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:56 AM
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ah ok. fair point. i still feel like the income was 'controlled' by the woman of the house.. and 'historically' are too narrow.. and even in the anglo american sense.... she probably did the budgeting and shopping, etc. but does that mean she 'controlled' the income? debatable. and i know nothing about any other countrie's history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:54 AM
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maybe i should have add what people define as purpose. good question. its a made up concept. like asking "what is the meaning of life?" what does 'meaning' mean in that context?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:50 AM
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but it sounds like you are having personal issues.. and that sucks. you deserve help and attention and affection. but painting the entire world with the terms of your personal problem is .. unhelpful .. and inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:49 AM
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it is the objectives that divide people into groups. not gender or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:47 AM
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Went to a homeless shelter in South America. woah! they have those down there?! where?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:47 AM
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No. Being single is never the better option. i rather enjoy it. pushing on 15 years now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:45 AM
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Not necesarily. There are other ways. Making single life hell to the point that dating any man is a better option comes to mind. why the hell would you wanna do that? you know what.. i'll meet you half way. that SHOULD be done. but for gay guys too. you should be made miserable until dating a man is a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:44 AM
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And what happens when two populations have goals that are opposed to each other? a law suit? an argument? nothing? people just agree to disagree and move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:43 AM
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It's a cop out to blame biology not entirely, nature does try to .. make people reproduce. so it makes sense that people feel a deep need to be in a relationship. but i feel like that can be separated from a NEED to be with someone as if to fill some void or fix a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:42 AM
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Many people may not be able to separate things but I can hold multiple opposite views at the same time and respect everyone. same. agreed. im like jello. cant nail me to the wall with any specific ideology :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:33 AM
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hmm. fair point. god damn.. a thoughtful debate where i learnt something :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:32 AM
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you might be right. I just assumed bank accounts were always in the guys' name.. and any legally legitimate transactions basically had to be done thru him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:31 AM
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Never in the history of our species has more than 10% of single hetero men been uninterested in chasing women you haven't explained how that is a problem It also means women's gravy train and validation train are going off the rails. even if that is true... is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:30 AM
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and get a bigger share all the low quality trash that's out there eww. what is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:29 AM
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but did reading that ACTUALLY hurt your feelings? or is this just a kibouki theater dance? i couldnt care less if a million women said "WE SHOULD KILL ALL MEN" I would laugh, say "well that's interesting" and go about my day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:28 AM
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Right now in the culture it’s women who are spouting off about how unnecessary men are i never heard that till i came here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:25 AM
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but I'd argue both men and women are propped up by men if we're referring solely to the labor intensive work that they're more likely to do in the first place. why cut the pie that way? maybe white men/women are propped up by minority men/women? maybe atheists are propped up by christians? maybe the first world is propped up by the third? also there is always a bigger difference AMONG a category than the average between them. so for example... there is a bigger difference between the most 'labou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:22 AM
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Men's production tends to not require their presence for you to benefit from it. Simple logic. Dentist: you need to talk to the dentist. Farmer: you don't need to talk to him to buy his food, you typically talk to... A female cashier. actually. being antisocial and awkward. i can manage all of those things without any degree of socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:21 AM
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men's contribution and value to society is invisibilised to women. uhhhh... rly? i thought.. and call me crazy... but i thought that STILL society undervalues and invisibilizes unpaid child rearing and womens' roles because they aren't economically rewarded. I don't feel like anyone invisibilizes mens' contributions... they "bring home the bacon" etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:19 AM
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despite all biological and anthropological evidence to the contrary. like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:17 AM
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what even is misandry? it sounds like an after-the-fact attempt to be like "HEY NO... IM A VICTIM TOO"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:16 AM
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"women don't need men anymore" what do you think they mean when they say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:14 AM
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I also recognize that in many of these jobs, men do the lion's share but this is a case of women historically NOT being allowed to do those jobs.. then when they FINALLY are legally mandated to be allowed to do so, there is still a problematic chauvenistic culture.. etc... then after all that we say "look, they aren't working construction or welding as much as men"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:13 AM
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i just hope that men dont support people who would never suport them back, why make it a men/women issue? what about rich/poor? what about black/white? et. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:11 AM
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That's not even why I have a problem with social programs for single moms though, it's that I am also not in favor of incentivizing single parenthood. incentivizing? so she is going to see the BLING that is.. what? short term welfare cheques and food stamps and dodge a perfectly healthy relationship? or does it just give women more ability to get out of troubling household dynamics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:07 AM
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nice.. power couple. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:05 AM
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Are Walmart cashiers “on call” every holiday, no. they just have to work them all. for minimum wage. no union.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:04 AM
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tons of hilarious - probably troll posts - scroll down the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:00 AM
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My work is lore-heavy like lord of the rings?! (highly technical) awww...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:59 AM
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What people forget is that it would also have been a massive disaster if they had ballooned to 2 Billion + people. hmm. i didn't really think much about that. I always assumed it was kind of a PR thing to show the world "look, we aren't responsible for this population boom" because aren't there like gigantic empty cities built for people that never went there? I always figured as long as there is food, etc. more people is better. bigger economy, bigger military, etc.?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:57 AM
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nono i was just kinda pointing out the discrepancy in tone from being 'selfless giver' to like 'yeah she's lucky' as in.. if you help someone.. but then go I HELPED YOU! it kinda erases half of the help. ahh it was a nitpicky point.. my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:55 AM
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have you ever been that mountain mover?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:53 AM
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but this is a north american perspective. apparently in iceland you dont ask someone out on a date. you basically just say "wanna bang?" and then afterwards THEN maybe you go on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:49 AM
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The only reason now it's heavily enforced is because it benefits the women wholeheartedly when they don't WANT to pay. nah i think it's just in the culture now. Not everyone is owed Gentlemen privileges especially if they aren't in a relationship I don't think you understand gentlemanly conduct...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:45 AM
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But IF everyone tried to have 6 kids for whatever reason, they would have to be stopped. yep. but china did this, and it turned into a DISASTER. they were afraid of overpopulation, instituted the one child policy, which was pretty strict... but by the time they put the brakes on it they looked at the demographics and went "OH SHIT.. WE NEED MORE YOUNG PEOPLE NOW... FUCK"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:43 AM
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what's a simp btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:42 AM
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You benefit from the Patriarchy more than the average man does. bruh.. ur in the military. there are no problems with sexual harassment, etc? everything is hunky dorey now? the term "patriarchy" is deeper than a few legal points. it's a tree that is like 1000 years old and has deep roots everywhere. from science to books to EVERYTHING. the very way we think. the very things we see as "logical" and "legitimate" are all a part of this all-encompassing 'patriarchy'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:39 AM
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They don't have to work what they do doesn't count?! nor do they have to pay the mortgage or any of the bills. yes they do. they ARE ON THE SAME SHIp. if it starts sinking EVERYONE has to bail it out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:37 AM
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and they never wake up at problematic times. they never piss in the clothing drawer. they never throw peanut butter on the dog. they never get gum stuck in their hair..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:36 AM
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That's why women who chose quit their careers after they get married astonish me. but.... isn't that a GOOD THING?! would you rather everyone works and sends the kids off to daycare to be raised by random ass people?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:35 AM
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and that can be funded by taxes on those who benefit from having raised, educated workers... aka the corporations that will hire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:34 AM
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I was with you until: She was living the dream in my opinion well that kinda took a dump on all the "i am just happy to support her regardless, I don't care what she does. im just happy if she's happy" "oh btw. shes lucky about it" err
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:31 AM
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one of the many reasons. mostly healthcare, access to contraceptives, female education rates.. and yes, the ability for women to choose a career instead of having uncontrollable amounts of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:29 AM
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what is your opinion on them just... splitting all the money. 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:28 AM
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They are making a willing choice to do it, they know the risks. If they do not want to take this risk, then just don’t be a stay home mother. but isn't it - always - preferable to have either a stay at home mother or father for at least the first.. 5 or so years?! it shouldn't be penalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:26 AM
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you missed the rest: I know ONE thing for sure. they value investment and time. they don't like wasting time on a relationship that will go nowhere. so every date to get a cheeseburger with douchebucket 2.0 is just another day not finding the right man and investing in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:22 AM
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im a Vol-Cel. Im used to being alone. it's cool. i like it. don't care. but i dont make my dating strategy any sort of identity focal point. 1) im a metal head 2) im a guy 3) im canadian
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:21 AM
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yeah. reasonable.. and thoughtful. im not even sure we disagree :) oh wait, ok. one thing: Families have to be smaller if kids are not dying off because if they were not, we would indeed overpopulate. families are just shrinking anyways for unrelated reasons. we couldn't raise the birthrate if we tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:20 AM
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my condolences.. for your loss. of ... you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:18 AM
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yep yep
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:17 AM
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Having someone else provide for you so you don't have to work is a massive privilege that costs a lot of money. no, it's best for the kids. would you rather both parents work and send them to strangers? IIRC it was something like <20% of divorces are instigated by working partners when the other party doesn't work. but that's just another way of saying less than 20% of divorces are instigated by the guys.. which could mean anything. it could mean, women are the ones that get fed up and leave.. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:16 AM
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spoken like a guy that... cant buy anyone a car... and diapers... etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:15 AM
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The compensation is you don't pay for food and drink or bills or rent. but you don't raise and nurse and ensure the mental health and early education of the children. frankly which is more valuable/important?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:14 AM
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And what incentive is there for a man to ever finance a woman at all you view having a family as "financing a woman" ?! if I am lucky to make enough dough such that SOMEONE can stay at home with our children.. that is FANTASTIC
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:12 AM
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you don't think they should both equally have access to all of the money?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:11 AM
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Historically, most household incomes were controlled by the woman of the house where?! when?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:10 AM
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the issue is recognizing the often overlooked and undervalued role of a SAHP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:10 AM
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They get free food, accommodation, and generally spending money without having to work. raising kids isn't work? are you out of your mind? it's a blessing to have a parent home to raise them rather then send them to strangers... no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:08 AM
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no. the point is there is a cost to being pregnant, giving birth, and raising children. and you can never catch up afterwards in the job market.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:08 AM
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isn’t this idea an internally contradictory one since the nominally income-freed SAHP would now be relying upon the generosity of their husband to stay at home it's not generosity. the children get raised. the family functions. every dollar that comes in is equally his and hers
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:06 AM
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There’s clearly an exchange of value. but the question is, who's time is valued more? I would argue in a real relationship it's all 50/50. regardless of what 'society' arbitrarily awards paid work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:05 AM
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But now their spouse must compensate them? compensate? if you are truly a couple.. isn't all money BOTH of your money equally?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:03 AM
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Women had to enter the workplace because with smaller families due to lower infant mortality rates I thought it was because A) the second world war shunted MILLIONS of women into manufacturing jobs. see: Rosie the Riveter. and they prolly liked having money and independence. so they kept working? if everyone had 5 kids we'd overpopulate fast--as well as better appliances, there is not nearly enough productive work for a woman to do at home full-time from age 25 to retirement. I'm not sure I unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:02 AM
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The other perspective is whether the spouse who was out working 70 hours a week gets to force the children to love them and imprint his ideas upon divorce? you make it seem like they are working like that just for the family.. yet, if you were a genie and said to them "i'll wave this wand, you stay home with the kids, and she is a professional working 70 hours a week" how many would do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:57 AM
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it’s because they want to stay home, so they haven’t given up anything. this doesn't follow. every decision involves giving up AT THE VERY LEAST the alternative that you decided to go against. like the economic idea of opportunity cost. every course of action has an opportunity cost. that is, if you invest 5 bucks in the hotdog stand, you can't spend it on the hockey game. if you invest 5 minutes helping someone with their homework you can't spend it doing laundry. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:55 AM
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actually there is a good case for the government to pay them for "social reproduction"... in other words creating a healthy, emotionally balanced, educated public that goes on to work and create economic benefit to the society. companies and governments kinda piggyback on all the free childrearing and education, but then reap the benefits of an educated society. if you asked them for the same freebie they would say... "5 BUCKS"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:52 AM
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I don't think there are that many shallow women TBH. I know ONE thing for sure. they value investment and time. they don't like wasting time on a relationship that will go nowhere. so every date to get a cheeseburger with douchebucket 2.0 is just another day not finding the right man and investing in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:48 AM
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shoes?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:47 AM
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hmmm. on second thought, it's all evolutionary. the entire mindset of a single human is at least - on some level - meant to appear attractive to the opposite sex. so both sexes engage in kind of a dance of trying to hit the evolutionary hot buttons. be it in this way or that. looking this way, moving that way, pushing your hair to one side, etc. etc. in a lot of ways we kind of try to hack the rational part of the brain of the opposite sex as an effort to appear and be more desirable regardless …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:46 AM
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taller than her or at least not shorter 3. assertive enough to initiate and flirt i dont think they care so much about that competent enough to arrange dates, meetups, and sexual escalation this also.. i mean yeah, technically being COMPETENT enough to do that, aka being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.. but not everyone wants to be led around. that's a personal taste thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:40 AM
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and DANCING :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:38 AM
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have you considered not dating but also not joining a little boys club whose sole identity is not dating?! that's an odd personality focal point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:36 AM
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because I believe they are not self aware enough to figure it out. Women in general aren't very introspective uhh? you're trolling, right? I'd be willing to wager what little dough I have that 90% of the women you come across are more self aware, introspective, intelligent and rational than you.. :P It's the reason they need sounding boards to process their own thoughts and emotions and can't sit alone in a room and dread solitude. uhhh. again.. wtf are you talking about? ONE person you probably…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:34 AM
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what women want, according to you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:30 AM
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What do you think the majority of women want when they seek a partner? I would think it varies. some want cuddle buddies. others feel like it's clingy. some want to build an economic future, others just want a good time. If i was to guess, I'd think the majority just want a reasonable relationship that can be built upon with someone they find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:29 AM
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yeah but whats the problem with any of that? is it a problem in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:02 AM
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uhh. what? explain what the problem is exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:02 AM
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Men also think you're shitty partners for thinking you are entitled to their paychecks. if you are in a long term relationship and live together going towards marriage.. i feel like all money is equal. of course... why wouldn't it be? the guy might say "well i earn 50 dollars an hour but she earns 15 dollars an hour.. so society values my time more" but the question she should ask him is: "do YOU value your time more than mine?! or are we equal?"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 05:00 AM
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They'd rather just not date. ok. more women for the rest. that's a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:58 AM
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This has never happened before in millions of years of human history, but women are making it happen now. That's damning. is this.. like.. a problem? you cant tell other people what to do.. so if that is how things are, and men are reacting in that way... so.. uhh.. what? whats the alternative? telling women how to date and how to feel and what to do? or is it better to just let some guys be like "AHH FUCK IT" ? this is one of those classic: "that's a YOU problems"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:56 AM
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Women know further down the line when both parties are working and they're doing the bulk of the child care and taking care of the house that a man who didn't invest early certainly won't be investing then even a total douche bucket can manage to pull off the 'gentleman' routine for a few dates. does it really show anything?!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:54 AM
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That's why so many men are saying 'fuck it' to dating and are quitting. rly? they are just... like... gunna be alone forever because dating kinda.. rubs them the wrong way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:52 AM
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I think a better way to vet is... poke him a bit.. i know it seems manipulative... but you wanna know how he handles being fucked with before you get all intertwined and shit, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:50 AM
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thats "a crazy little thing called love" :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:48 AM
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if stacy were truly egalitarian she would be seen as "bossy" or "moody" or "feminist" etc. etc. i think that was their point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:47 AM
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when in reality virtually all men know that if you want to get a second date or increase your chances of getting laid, you have to pay. I've had to argue to pay for the first date before. she only relented when we agreed that she would pay next time. or if you're dealing with a woman who uses men for free meals and resources. it aint worth the trouble to sit with a douche.. for a burger...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 04:44 AM
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you're just jealous my life is an utter mess and yours prolly isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 02:26 AM
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nah im good. I got my point across. Like, damn, you can't even agree to disagree. That's ridiculous. oh don't by a whiney turd. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:41 AM
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I mean look. okay I just realised my point. it is this: you are just kinda.. blind to all the ways that women help men, but only see the ways in which men help women. you don't see the single mothers, the women out there in the streets of vancouver searching around to make sure nobody is overdosing.. etc. etc. you just say "AHH THATS SMALL POTATOES" but then like when a guy pays for dinner you are like "SEE!!! GUYS HELP WOMEN ALL THE TIME" ... bruh that's called CONFIRMATION BIAS.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:37 AM
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well it was a nice dance while it lasted. bows slightly Mario. I bid you adieu
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:32 AM
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First you said I made it up. Now you're saying, "Okay, men are expected to approach and pay for dinner, but not the rest." Those are two different objections. I said you made THIS up: "The point is that women are far more likely to receive genuine financial help, housing, protection, food, transportation, gifts, or someone willing to take them in than men are." not the thing about dating. there's a difference between using anecdotes to illustrate a widely recognized pattern and using a single pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:25 AM
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I don't feel ugly, I know I am. hahahaha. respect
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:18 AM
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Men have talked about this for years, and plenty of women openly joke or brag about men paying their bills, buying them gifts, taking them places, helping with housing, or financially supporting them. you just shat on me for using "anecdotal evidence" that sounds like shitty anecdotal evidence bruv. Men are generally expected to approach, pay, provide, protect, and prove their usefulness to women. Women are not expected to extend that same level of material support to struggling men. umm.. no th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:16 AM
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The point is that women are far more likely to receive genuine financial help, housing, protection, food, transportation, gifts, or someone willing to take them in than men are. you just made that up tho. I'm saying society, and especially men, are generally more willing to help women than the reverse. you made that up too what you basing it on? it all just "feels" true?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:09 AM
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Saying you went through the Canadian system and didn't notice a huge disparity doesn't establish there isn't one. It establishes that you didn't notice one. Those aren't the same claim. okay.. but here's the thing.. Instead of just baselessly with NO evidence WHATSOEVER saying that women get more assistance, at LEAST I tried to pull knowledge from somewhere to make a point. Do you have any? any evidence? any ANYTHING other than like... 'vibes' ? Whether the motivation is attraction, chivalry, pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 01:05 AM
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.. that was the gayest thing I've ever heard in my life ..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:59 AM
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so but.. in all honesty and curiousity.. you are like. prolly just fucking around to get a rise out of people? or are you actually some kind of miserable wretch?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:57 AM
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and your point? all else even, big beats small. wow. a revelation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:55 AM
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and that you are pretty messed up for trying to get me to fight your woman friends oh.. ur like a 14 year old or something.. well, have a good one..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:53 AM
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you haven't taken jiu jitsu at a gym with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:52 AM
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wow.. are you seriously bragging about how you can like.. beat up women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:51 AM
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ur right. FUCK, HOW DID YOU KNOW IM A FRAUD!?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:50 AM
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just grow a beard. then go find a tall handsome other bearded hairy guy. tie your beard to his and fall into his strong embrace and enjoy all that great great masculinity. have at 'er
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:49 AM
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ever taken jiu jitsu? I would laugh my ass off watching the ladies at the gym choke your ass out ;D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:47 AM
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we make 82% of all infastructural work. WE?! No.. guys that know how to do shit do it.. not you. If we dissapeared humanity would go extinct in a couple of months no. that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I mean.. any gigantic social upheaval that leaves half of humanity dead would cause BIG problems. but no. you can stop giving an embarassing sausage jerk to the statuesque man-illusion in your brain. just go get a boyfriend or whatever? but again.. I know you are at a russian troll farm o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:45 AM
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yeah.. plenty do.. i've worked with them. shit, they prolly'd whoop ur ass too. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:42 AM
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If you actually are drunk, that would help make these responses make a lot more sense. cute.. That's a pretty funny standard to set. what standard? that made no sense at all. Saying you've been on welfare or lived in shelters doesn't address whether society, in general, is quicker to help women than men or whether governments devote more resources to women in many areas. sorry. it was implied. I'll actually paint the fucking picture for ya because apparently extrapolation is not a strong suit. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:32 AM
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Besides, you seem like you are just trying to hop around to different posts trying to find an argument to pick apart, but of course can't. I am definitely trawling for a debate because it is fun and I'm drunk as hell.. up for days.. but I don't just dick around. I don't say anything unless I figure it is defensible and makes sense. Without question people are quicker to help women than men. I mean... this isn't EVEN anecdotal.. it's just kinda asserted.. I mean.. i guess? maybe? in some ways?! g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:12 AM
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There's a good heaping of confirmation bias here, although I had a good chuckle a couple times :D but anyways, for every dopey kinda goofball asking dumb questions, how many other guys and gals are out there just killin' the workout and then going home without notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:03 AM
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Spilling water on equipment can damage it, would you prefer to not be informed, and have it break on you? woah there.. yeah.. it was about to electrically short out and cause a city wide black out... bruh, it's gym equipment.. it's all designed to take water spills and disgusting amounts of sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:02 AM
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pushin 42 here. still a trainwreck! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:00 AM
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bahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:56 PM
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The front desk might have a rag to clean the water. Sure you could use a large amount of toilet paper from the bathroom i guess have you ever been to a gym? there's paper towel everywhere to clean off the equipment. and almost certainly a towel hamper in the change room.. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:55 PM
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The front desk might have a rag to clean the water. Sure you could use a large amount of toilet paper from the bathroom i guess have you ever been to a gym? paper towel everywhere to clean off the equipment. almost certainly a towel hamper in the change room.. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:55 PM
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Plenty of women struggle with basic adult competence too. The difference is that it often shows up in different areas or is overlooked because people are quicker to step in and help them. really?! I don't really see that.. the women are usually more responsible for sure.. my first girlfriend in highschool had moved out at like 16.. and never moved back home again. I know it's just one example.. but I'm struggling to imagine this "people being quicker to step in with help" supposition... do you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:54 PM
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you gotta admit it IS pretty douchey to spill YOUR OWN WATER and then like... just helplessly wander to the front desk and be like "I MADE A MESS" instead of.. oh I dunno... cleaning it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:51 PM
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Not inform the staff of a potentially dangerous spill in a high foot traffic area where people are likely to be carrying heavy items? I would never get someone else to clean my stupid water mess. Wouldn't that make you feel like a douche bucket? It's a gym, there's always paper towel all over the fucken place. could prolly find the dirty towel hamper pretty quick if necessary also.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:50 PM
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bahahaha.. or if you do spill it you go "AH SHIT!" and like.. grab some paper towel
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:37 PM
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A person who questions her story or defends a man may be treated like they are attacking victims or making excuses for bad men. absolutely not. even to this day there is a problem in the legal system with women's complaints and crimes against them not being taken seriously at every level... from police to prosecutors to judges... and it's better now than before.. it was FARRR worse...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:27 PM
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nah, I'm here for the debates :D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 11:01 PM
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it already wore off. cheers. drinkin' cider tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:58 PM
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I don't get mad from little internet debates. oh.. hahahaha.. yeah yeah I definitely lit you up a bit there.. :P hahahaha. fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:55 PM
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you're better off without one. without a gut? or without a partner? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:31 PM
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who knows.. this is kinda all... conjecture without like.. links to evolutionary psychology studies and sources and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:14 PM
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well then you are an abysmal shit. sounds pretty cowardly. I feel the need to jump into situations to protect the likes of YOU.. for fuck sakes. "that guy is getting manhandled and looks scared as hell.. fuck.. I gotta make this my business"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:12 PM
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Unfortunately men are still shamed hey.. if you believe in all this patriarchal shit and the value of men.. why are you acting like such a whiny victim? keep a stiff upper lip and be a gentleman instead of moping about like an insecure weakling.. yea? strong men don't bitch and moan and cry about such things.. wouldn't a true gentleman WANT society to favour women? it's not something to whine about. it's something to be proud of.. right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:08 PM
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Look at how Stephen Miller was ridiculed for supposedly not properly protecting his wife during the recent shooting. that is not real life.. some internet fucktards have an opinion. it's not statistically significant. it's the equivalent of being like "i heard that something happened one time from a guy I never met" wow... should build up an entire world view because of it..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:06 PM
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There is a well established and documented issue with SA in basically all anglo-american militaries. in addition to sexism and sexual harassment which are STILL rampant problems. it's GRADUALLY starting to get better. I was in the military. My mom served for 30 years. My dad was in the navy. and HIS dad was in the navy. AND I studied shit like this while getting a political science degree. So I have a pretty good idea of the kinda fucked up shit that is going on. it is STARTING to get better.. b…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:03 PM
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what makes you think that it's police, firefighters and the military that are primarily protecting women? what threats do you think women REALLY face on a daily basis? it's well reported that serious SA crimes against women go UNBELIEVABLY under-reported... so the police aren't protecting them.... if you had taken a course in world security issues you might have read the shit I had to read in university about the sexual violence that is perpetrated in war... so the military can very much be a sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 10:00 PM
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that might have been true in caveman times.. but now guns exist. and bear mace. and tazers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:58 PM
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lololol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:57 PM
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this is a bunch of christian religious shit. the pagan germanic people would be totally alien to you. you wouldn't understand them. they had female sorcerers who were revered deeply.. and when the warriors would capture enemies in battle, the sorceress would cut their throats one by one with a dagger, and by the way their blood splattered onto the ground she would read the will of the gods to the rest of the tribe. the story of the vikings in vinland tells of a vicious fight between the norse an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:54 PM
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Men actually keep society functional in regards to infastructure. whaat?! 1) that's just not true. 2) the degree to which IT IS true, for example if there are vastly more male construction workers. it is a social situation forced upon women, rather than having been chosen by them. Women have willingly opted out of every single societal risk. Whether its front line combat. Contruction. Plumbing. Power plants. Oil rigs. ABSOLUTELY false.. women have been fighting to be allowed to do these things. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:49 PM
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?? I know at least one feminist.. and she doesn't hate men. or want a gender war... that sounds ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:08 PM
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... yeah.. it seems like.. they are locked and loaded to just get angry and kinda unload their already prepared grievances and wind up shoe horning it into whatever argument.. not a recipe for a particularly productive discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:48 PM
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definitely can be. frustrating... to put it one way :D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 06:36 PM
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enlighten me.. did i literally miss something or fuck up? like.. was my post in err or ridiculous or nonsensical?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:45 PM
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it's not trivial to go against it. I think we are having a misunderstanding. when you asked about the simplicity of getting rid of that concept, I thought you meant with regards to just me in my example. how one family would do it, rather than how an entire society would do it. I feel like identities like masculinity/femininity/gay/straight, etc. etc. etc. kind of ride people rather than the other way around. so the role these things play, IMO, is super complicated but it seems to be everywhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:43 PM
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i think it plays a problematic part in many peoples' lives.. it is antiquated, arbitrary and pointless. AT BEST.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:34 PM
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huh? im not angry at all.. I basically never get angry... dude I don't get angry when I get my ass beaten.. let alone at some silly debate online.. you sound like the kinda guy that when an argument starts to go the other way, you find some emotional baby excuse to disengage. weak
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:03 PM
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but if they don't offer free dating advice they aren't any longer a part of reciprocal societal responsibilities? or? I'm not quite sure what you are arguing here...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:02 PM
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huh? im not angry at all.. you sound like the kinda guy that when an argument starts to go the other way, you find some emotional baby excuse to disengage. weak
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:00 PM
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nobody said anything about "no responsibility whatsoever" all she said was MEN ARE NOT ENTITLED TO FREE RELATIONSHIP ADVICE FROM RANDOM WOMEN ONLINE. and from that you drew the conclusion that A) she feels NO such thing as social responsibilities whatsoever? and then B) you further went on a butt-hurt tangent about not feeling any social responsibilities yourself?! can you not see the irrationality of this line of reasoning? it makes no sense man unless you are OWED free dating advice from rando…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:58 PM
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one minute you talk tough, the next minute you play the victim? have some dignity..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:48 PM
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im not angry. my question is this: DO women owe you free advice? do they have to give you free advice in order to deserve anything at all out of their interactions with society? because you made it sound like if they DONT offer FREE advice to any man that asks at any time then they aren't deserving of protection and reciprocal societal benefits.. etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:45 PM
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your argument is like a straw man.. or red herring.. or some other such fallacious thing where you are arguing against something that wasn't even part of the initial issue. for example: when you argue that 'social responsibility is mutual' do you mean to say that OP DOES in fact OWE you her time if you want advice? because that is THE ONLY POINT SHE MADE. all she technically argued was that she doesn't OWE anyone her time. she didn't say she has no social responsibilities. she didn't say that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:38 PM
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lol again reddit deleted my response, twice now... anyhow.. I'm not a sociopath.. I have empathy.. basically I was throwing the same childish tantrum at you that you threw at OP.. baby shit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:33 PM
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people like OP want other people to be responsible towards them op never said any such thing. Because social responsibility is mutual. OP never intimated that he/she doesn't feel social responsibilities. all she said was she doesn't OWE anyone her time for advice on the internet with regards to dating. for all we know she volunteers at soup kitchens, helps kids cross the street and feels a deep sense of civic duty. but her argument rubbed you the wrong way, so you had a little tantrum without ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:27 PM
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like, frankly nobody 'deserves' anything from anybody else... so what? that's obvious.... this whole goofy reaction to OPs argument just reeks of butt-hurt sentiment and emotional outburst reactions... rather than ACTUAL rational arguments that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:20 PM
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So? what is the point of this expression of yours? sounds like you are butthurt by OPs argument and just wanna throw some shit out there and make it stick. like.. I could say the same thing.. If I see a guy named drunkon-blabla getting shmucked around like a ragdoll I wouldn't do anything either.. how has this moved the conversation in any way whatsoever or tackled any of the arguments at hand? it just sounds like childish tit-for-tat retribution. "WELL IF YOU DONT THINK MEN DESERVE YOUR ADVICE,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:15 PM
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? am i missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:13 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:12 PM
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Yep. this isn't dealing with the main argument. So? a point is a point. i am basically contesting your - what seems to be - cheap shot at someone for their expenditure of time and value of it... because it doesn't meet your 'standards' and hence you just scoff at it. which is judgy and bullshit. no? they said "my time has value" which meant - in the context of OP's original argument - you aren't entitled to ANY of it. that's it.. no more.. no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:10 PM
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I am absolutely engaging in good faithed debate. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER POINTS?! anyways, helping a stranger doesn't have THAT much to do with gender. moreso with power.. so a small person, or an infirm or elderly person... or a child.. basically anyone who I can see is clearly outmatched, I feel an obligation to help. yeah there is no 'entitlement' to help. we aren't entitled to not be eaten by grizzly bears.. but I'd still try and do something if at all possible. does anyone feel entitled to…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:05 PM
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I'm not gonna trust some stranger's opinion off the internet who doesn't know a single thing about me over comparing my experiences (or lack thereof) compared to all the other people in my life this is an oddly... uhh. insecure reaction, no? do you mean to say you feel ugly and don't look good? or was that just a generic point about not trusting this rando's opinion writ large? because both options are kinda... weird.. and oddly confrontational or marked with some type of insecurity or something
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:02 PM
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"my time has value" just means that that person and that person ALONE can decide what they value and will spend time on. seems pretty cut and dry. I can't judge how they decide to spend their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:58 PM
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Women deserve to be protected by men, ? police, judges, prosecutors and soldiers (even frontline) are now populated with both men and women. women deserve to get mens labour-surplus redistributed to them by the state I'm not sure what you mean by this exactly, but even to this day, womens' work of being pregnant, raising and nursing a young child goes completely unpaid while the husbands' efforts are rewarded by the economy with a pay cheque. women deserve to retire earlier I've never heard of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:55 PM
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yep. why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:22 PM
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"I am one gender, and I'm into this other gender, which I'm not." Do you think this is an apt definition? yes And if yes, would you say this suggests an attachment to some sort of duality/separation/​dichotomized experience of the genders? also, unfortunately, yes. hopefully in the future, this won't be the case as people feel free to totally expand as individuals. limitlessly unattached to such concepts of identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 03:47 AM
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I think some people here are bots. i'm sure plenty are... fun anyway to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 02:44 AM
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not necessarily.. for example.. let's say i have a son.. we go to the clothing store. he wants a dress. so i buy him it. he wants to wear it to school. so he wears it to school. no problem. how much actual dastardly machinations of state were required? NONE. a change of mindset was all that was necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:51 AM
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basically by saying just that.. pondering it.. and then agreeing to do that. it's not particularly difficult.... I already feel that way.. I have met many trans gendered people... etc. etc. and although I have a sense of masculinity and straight sexuality because of where I was born and raised... I totally desire (and believe) such concepts will fade away due to lack of societal enforcement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 12:37 AM
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but things like asking for the masculine provider role in relationships, my sister doesn't do that. my mother didn't do that.. and in fact, that is an aspect of patriarchy that WOMEN SEEK TO FREE MEN FROM ALSO. using biology to shield from physical escalation that is not the case. women are bullied all the time by big fat sexist pigs. spit it just doesn't happen when you or I are around because these fucks know full well what would happen. deference to women in public spaces, what does that even…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:32 PM
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which comes with certain privileges like what? we are all complicit— even women uphold the patriarchy of course, not every human fully even thinks about this. it's not purposeful. the women that "uphold it" aren't doing it on purpose, they are more than likely just normal humans going about their lives with no thought about it. until women examine their role in upholding this system men who might otherwise reject patriarchal norms will not. well ain't that a sonofabitch.. would you say that to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:07 PM
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ye boiii let's dance! I'm sittin here drinking day and night. im all sorts of discombobulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:04 PM
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Patriarchy will only die when women truly dislike it, imo. "patriarchy" and just having a 'take charge masculine' type of man are two different things. I can't think of a single woman that likes 'patriarchy' writ large because it is - by design - a system of oppression in so many ways that it cannot be overstated. from the very way we speak and the words we use, to the scientific disciplines, to the media landscape, to relations in the workplace. it's a comprehensive, almost invisible system tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:02 PM
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YES! Okay.. where do we start. thank the gods, I was about to die of boredom. umm.. i'll list all my objectionable opinions, pick one and let me have it! 1) masculinity is ludicrous and the solution to the crisis of young men now knowing how to become a "man" is to completely erase the bullshit concept entirely and let all individuals be unfettered by antiquated identity shackles. 2) many times people say, every side has to be respected or whatever.. but no.... one side is almost always correct.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:53 PM
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I know how I would help them. hey, if you think you are ugly (you aren't, most likely) grow a big beard, grow big muscles, get tattoos and practice small talk. BAAM. pussy galore ala goldfinger
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:44 PM
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Hey, new to this subreddit... but what gives? I never get responses here... it's like, god damnit I want to have a debate.. is it just because there are so many god damned messages for people to go through? or what?!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 08:42 PM
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yeah you do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:55 AM
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as i thought. you spent ALL this time responding on and on.. yet have squirmed and squirmed from showing you have ANY real life example with such things. hey man. whatever. sounds weak
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:37 AM
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defensive? I'm asking for even the most basic explanation that you have ACTUALLY experienced this in person in any way whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:31 AM
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well explain. how many women have you gone on dates with that were "problematically self centered and narcissistic and entitled"? how did the situation evolve.. how did you come to realize that was the case? or .. again did you just pull all of this out of online incel's asses?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:27 AM
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not really.. no. that's why I feel like you: A) basically made this up due to being stuck in online manosphere brain worm mode and B) don't actually have much experience? I mean I'm no sociable smooth guy that has met 40,000,000 people.. but... this doesn't seem like a common thing.. if im wrong explain
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 02:19 AM
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oh fuck... im naive i didnt know that.. thx
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 08:25 PM
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wait... that was a sex worker?! that's the impression you got? I just imagined a particularly smooth talking kinda greasy scam artist. like the young hot pakistani or whatever guys that convince less attractive 20 year older white women to get them their green card and give them a bunch of money. it's just preying on the desperate, lonely and insecure. if it IS sex workers they were talking about.. of course.. who cares. you pay for what you get.. whatever, that's a different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:05 PM
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The Johns she is seeing aren’t innocent, pure, lonely men just trying to get a woman to love. im generally on your side on this debate.. but TBH... what about young attractive new residents to your country stringing older women along and preying on their sense of loneliness and desperation to get money, a green card, etc? that ain't cool. I don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:02 PM
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don't care. this is anecdotal. "wow.... there is a shitty person out there. what else is new?" am I supposed to change my worldview because of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:59 PM
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do you mean to make the argument that it is EXACTLY an equally and fair situation that a guy just has to JIZZ once.. and that's it.. whereas a woman has to go through pregnancy and make decisions about keeping it or not... etc. etc.?! there is a fundamental sexual imbalance between men and women.. because men can just fuck for 5 seconds and forget about and go about their life. whereas she CANNOT.. she has BIG decisions to make. and - at least in times past - had to deal with IMMENSE social stig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:57 PM
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Actually they just look at the very same "bodily autonomy" argument women use to escape those things and apply it to being forced to use their own bodies to support what is entirely a woman's choice. are you wilfully daft, man? you think that's what a guy thinks when he just packs up and says "SEE YA!" and she raises the kids? if you honestly believe that, we really don't have much to talk about. Your next stop should be to pick up velcro shoes and a propeller cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:54 PM
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Men are required by law to be up for sacrifice, Men are supposed to work themselves to death they just legalized domestic violence in Russia. there are numerous cases of women being unbelievably maimed, murdered and massacred in an apartment.. to the horror of her neighbors. the police never showed up. yet when a woman fights back against an abusive husband, she is quickly put in chains. in Saudi Arabia, if a woman gets SA'd she has NO legal recourse but if she fights back at the time and injure…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:50 PM
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1) you MUST be trolling... this can't be for real.. 2) have you even MET and SPOKEN to more women than your mama? 3) I've not even met a single self-centered entitled one. They've all been varying degrees of interesting, troubled, intelligent and deep. Just like most of the guys I've met... In other words... what the hell are you talking about?! which leads us back to 1 1) you must be trolling. this can't be a real opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 06:45 PM
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damnit. now I read it twice! yeah good point. oh.. okay I found something to debate about :) I don't think that is the most damaging thing to men's social lives. Machismo, harshness, aggression, emotional instability I think are wayyy more prevalent and damaging than some coddling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:01 PM
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It occurred to me about a week later that I would, once I had fire, set the entire island on fire. that's risky because if it doesn't work you may very well have fucked your resources.. but yeah, good idea. I just would not able to sit around and wait for stuff to happen hahaha I think im the polar opposite! I'da prolly sat down and been like "well, I guess now I can meditate for 20 years" :D I remember something a zen teacher said. he learned that we always have everything we need. it's always …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:59 PM
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I would have the presence of mind to start tearing stuff that would float from the ship and preparing myself for the water. good thinking after the fact, I hope I would be so prescient. But I have a feeling the effect of that cold-ass water was not anticipated. So I'da grabbed something to float with... and then froze..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:56 PM
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Easy enough for you? I don't understand the following words: Schemas Dogmatic Antisocial. JK JK.. Umm.. People follow the schemas and frameworks of the dominant social philosophy as a member of society. yeah.. makes sense. I mean it's a bit more complicated with all the subcultures and whatnot, but yeah no disagreement. When a society becomes too dogmatic in said framework, this leads to more antisocial behavior. hrmph. well I mean antisocial is kinda BY DEFINITION 'that which goes against the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:52 PM
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Men don’t get muscles to compete with other men yes we do. If I was into that shit for women, I would just lean down and get a six pack. We get the big muscles to be the biggest fucken guy in the gym. so when you are walking down the street and three people jump on us, we can smash them onto the pavement :D maybe ur different.. i dunno
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:49 PM
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he wasn't just "sharing his experiences" he made some assertions. it's totally reasonable to argue against them. maybe reread what bondepart is replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:45 PM
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yet you want to run me ragged when it goes the other way. hmm.. i don't understand. can you explain a bit more? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:41 PM
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but society is going to be repulsed by them crying for the rest of their lives, so you have to teach boys to control their tears. that's a bad reason to control tears. if you gotta cry, cry. fuck everyone else if they have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:39 PM
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but where is the line between being coddled, and being imbued with self esteem? a certain amount of unconditional acceptance and praise gives a child a solid sense of self and confidence that will last their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:38 PM
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hmmm. too risky. I give a note to my friend to give to her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:34 PM
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but I do. and we are questioning MY motives for giving up the seat. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:32 PM
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hmmm... idk. I would yield a seat to a pregnant woman, not because she is a woman, but because she is pregnant. see what I mean? It used to be that ALL women would get a seat. So is it the fact she is burdened? or that she is a woman? In my case, it's the load. the same as someone with mobility issues, or carrying a bunch of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:29 PM
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hmmm. i'd agree that in the 50's men would be tripping over themselves to give you their seat. but was the reason no one gave you their seat 'progress' in the feminist sense? or is it just that people are kinda rude and oblivious to such things nowadays? like someone getting on the bus carrying a bunch of groceries or something, and some 15 year old is sitting in the front listening to music not budging an inch.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:24 PM
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If only the winners of wars reproduce and reproduce twice as much, over millions of years, you will have more male warriors. wars aren't won with physical prowess. They are won through organizational might. Women may very well be better suited to it. Men are built for wrestling and showing off. But warfare is complicated, cerebral and involves logistics, communication, and organization on many levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:20 PM
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Spear ritual!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:17 PM
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we don't know what natural even IS. we were born in a world with cars and TV's and radios. We wouldn't recognize "natural" if it bit us in the dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:17 PM
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what is an example of bad progression? I thought the word progression kinda had positive outcomes baked into it...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:16 PM
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Men are made for war and hunting some were. but we aren't cavemen anymore. They are made to kill No, bears are made to kill. Humans are made to communicate and cooperate. They are made to protect their families from other tribes. no. TRIBES are made to protect tribes from other tribes. The current situation is hilarious to most men in previous generations who grew up around boys who busted their chops, shut down whining, and pushed each other to take risks. previous generations were fucked in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:13 PM
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men are the majority who pay for it which is just as unethical if you ask me. nonono. NONE of it is unethical.. where are ethics? No one is being hurt. it's all good feelings, and for god sakes, the models are making some money on OF. what's the problem here?!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:07 PM
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What, exactly, is unethical about getting paid to show ur tits?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:05 PM
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nobody is about the Ron Jeremy? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:01 PM
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all my female friends dated ex convicts and so did my mom and sister. it's possible that your social setting has had an effect on your opinions that don't necessarily translate to most other peoples' lived experiences...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:54 PM
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where? post links?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:52 PM
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It doesn't work though. so you are selflessly trying to help these poor women who just can't figure out they need to lower their standards? Bless you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:51 PM
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women have such high standards for men because of social media. but the media hasn't skewed mens' view of women at all.... including the average ones and thus they created in their head this impression that they deserve the best of the best men out there Good.. are you threatened by that? But the problem is if there is no problem. You worry about YOUR standards. that's your lane. you control you. you judge yourself. judging others and trying to change them is futile and childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 09:49 PM
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I wasn't talking about men in general I thought two posts ago they literally said "I wasn't talking about men in general" ...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:46 AM
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we have NO FUCKING IDEA how many people medieval england had. When times are good humans can reproduce triple or quadruple their numbers in the span of 100 years... and when times are tough the exact opposite can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:40 AM
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ohh Brian.. here you are again.. unsurprisingly at the smoking barrel of a poor argument. I'm here to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:39 AM
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how about you define how you'd like to be treated socially and to start working towards that change? I thought that's - for the most part - what feminism was.. ?!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:37 AM
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I'll listen. What's up, Brian?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:36 AM
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we all know brian has a hard time looking at and making letters into words.. let alone thoughts. let alone arguments. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:33 AM
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all men? no I don't have all men figured out.. YOU PERSONALLY.. Oh yeah. about as deep as a thimble. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:33 AM
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Yeah that explains why women perform something like 85% of purchases every year. Because they are not interested in things. they are interested in people. they buy things for PEOPLE. MEN are interested in things, AKA when they have time off they go to the garage and play with their things... Is this hard to disambiguate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:32 AM
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I personally do not - consciously - have this fear. But I wouldn't doubt for a second that such subconscious underpinnings lay beneath the surface of a lot of pillars of our society. Or maybe not.. Ohh Brian.. is it you again? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:30 AM
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there is a part of the Vinland Saga (the story of when the Vikings went to Newfoundland - North America back in like the 900s) where the Vikings were fighting an insurmountable number of native warriors... and in a bad way.. Then one of the Viking women stepped out in front, bared a breast, slapped it with a sword, and shrieked out loud. The opponents, confused and fearful, fled.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:25 AM
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And other than freezing your head, how can men obtain immortality? through great deed! ... and putting up a big penis shaped statue with our greatness written on it.. godamnit.. I see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:23 AM
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The question you keep stepping around is whether that cost would ever be allowed to land on women the way it lands on men sure.. it depends on the society. Ironically it is the most chauvenistic societies that 'shield' women from war. but the communists were the first nation to allow women in combat rolls. they had female snipers, female tank drivers, etc. BACK IN THE 1940's! So while you might think that shielding women from war paints a 'hypocritical picture' of society.. it is actually right …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:14 AM
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Feminism states that conscription comes from the patriarchy, and condemns it, yet an entire country that brands itself by it does exactly that? 1) feminism isn't just one thing. there are thousands of strands and personal beliefs of all feminists. just like any other heterogenous group. 2) so what? who cares what Norway does? what does that have to do with feminism here in your country, right now?! So why choose only men? Why not restrict both men and women? Why are you making random people in N…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:09 AM
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Feminism's stated position is that You lost me at this line.. I can't even.. I can't even read past that... It's just.. Feminism isn't just one thing.. and frankly I know everything that follows is gunna be horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:03 AM
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Ok.. here's an idea.. if you are in a place that is well lit, during the day, with people around and there's not much reason for a woman to feel afraid. strike up a conversation and make a move.. if she seems in the slightest uninterested, make a sheepish "I'm a dumb guy" retort and then get the hell out of there and about your business. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:58 AM
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Having to leave a place you want to be should be too unreasonable for the risk. well... would you submit someone to that possibility? Or would you stand down upon considering it might be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:56 AM
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Oh my god.. I wish to all the gods that may or may not exist... both of those guys got a good taste of the pepperiest of sprays directly on their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:54 AM
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The guy who feels the humiliation approaches less. NO. I failed at playing EVERY SONG I EVER PLAYED ON GUITAR far more times than I succeeded. Did I quit because failure and humiliation were too much? NO. IM NOT WEAK.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:45 AM
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How does filtering for men who ignore social messaging and don't care about doing the right thing keep women safe, exactly? because if a guy is too timid to lean over and touch someone uninvited, he probably also won't commit unspeakable violent acts. The man who walks up to a stranger who's signaled nothing, in a climate he knows treats unsolicited approach as threatening, and feels nothing doing it, is a man who isn't reading her. Yeah, don't do that. Walking home from the bus at night through…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:43 AM
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WHATS WRONG WITH CIRCUMCISION?! YOU ANIMALS! HE GETS A LITTLE HELMET! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:36 AM
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because “boys don’t cry” gets drilled into their heads by the time they’re like 5, they’re socialized to suppress vulnerable emotions that society has coded “feminine.” I don't remember this ever being put into me. I do follow that.. but I feel like it's just a part of me. Never noticed it's societal impetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:32 AM
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that's a good point. bluntness actually inhibits nuanced emotional discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:30 AM
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All I know is... They are right if they are talking about me.. I don't like talking about my feelings.. I don't like to 'unload' on people.. I deal with it by sitting in a corner and rocking back and forth by myself until the funk is gone. So I am at least ONE data point in this experiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:29 AM
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and given that 40% of mens' words are either "fuck" "shit" "piss" or "Dick" they speak more like, 60 percent more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:26 AM
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hey hey hey.. everyone.. I was never explicitly told that men don't cry. Yet i still feel its the same thing as tapping out to a choke hold.. "Fuck it... just.... choke me out.."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:23 AM
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I simply think the men who don’t want to talk to their partner or bond with them just don’t like women at all. I dunno I can understand a certain degree of aloofness. some people are just profoundly uncomfortable with sharing their feelings, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:19 AM
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They want more bonding time, more high effort dates, things of that sort. Men, not so much this depends on the man. some really want to delve into their partner and understand them and do all these things.. others are just kinda more distant. He's fine with a more relaxed, laid-back approach which she doesn't like this totally depends on the couple. I've gotten critiques that I seem clingy (AKA like to cuddle and shit. it's nice to hold someone.. whatever. dont judge me :) but I think it's just …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:16 AM
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Except that women don’t generally do shit like this, they look at body language and situational information, take things slow, look for mutual interest, consent, don’t box people in, etc. and guys stomp all over that shit.. totally random strangers be touching me when they talk to me. "WHY YOU TOUCHING ME" getting up in my space... asking me question after question with one answer replies... jesus christ.. these guys are a nightmare. And IM A GUY.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:07 AM
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It's knowing when and how to express romantic interest without coming across as unwanted, awkward, or intrusive. 100% The issue is that creating romantic opportunities usually requires men to take risks that they don't have to take in ordinary social conversations. also 100% damn, this dude thinks 'bout shit :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:02 AM
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Tell me, how do you talk to men who you don’t already know? Because talking to women you don’t know isn’t really any different. It’s not impossible. yeah it is.. i don't know why.. it just is.. im more afraid of talking to a beautiful woman than getting punched in the dick by a drunk. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:01 AM
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Shut up wesley!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:55 AM
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Im in a weird spot with this topic. I have enough tact to know that I can’t cold approach a girl at a cafe and even though she’s wearing a Star Wars shirt or has a Pokémon keychain I know I can’t just walk up and expect a full conversation with her just because of implied similar interests. What?! That's the best way to go. I've never been like, shunned or whatever for saying like "Hey, nice shirt!" or what have you. people appreciate that. just don't push a conversation after. you will know pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:53 AM
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1) that doesn't change the fact that mass messaging is about getting money to achieve success/attractiveness. 2) Elon actually HAS been getting with INEXPLICABLY attractive women despite his a) lack of charisma b) lack of attractiveness and c) lack of any ability to otherwise attract mates whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:49 AM
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but the US is culturally fucked.. on so many levels. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:43 AM
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How long have you been single? I've been single for about 15 years now. I like it. I am used to it. I don't NEED anything else, here I am. "I'm a mog... I'm my own best friend" so it IS possible to be .. complete.. on your own. and then a partner would be a wonderful accoutrement rather than a miserable necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:40 AM
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Tears came to my eyes one day when I had the following thought. I was sitting in the library reading some book on Buddhism.. and suddenly I thought.. wait, any feeling I have had for someone else... has technically been from me.. I only experience other people through my own senses... so any love or compassion or desire I feel comes from ME. So we have a boundless source of love WITHIN us.. it cant be anywhere else! The source of any love we could ever experience is our own brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:37 AM
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GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:35 AM
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that's not her point. what she was saying was, you don't want to go back to the past.. it sucked for EVERYONE. a MAN in 19th century england worked 14 hour days 6 or 7 days a week in a smoke filled shit factory just to die at 45. if he tried to unionize or fight against it, the army would shoot him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:33 AM
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Men are constantly told their value as human beings is intrinsically linked to their ability to get access to a woman's body I thought they were told that their value as a human being is how much money they can make.. furthermore I thought they were taught that if you make that much money, you won't have to worry about finding a woman.. they will flock to you. Which capitalism channel have you been watching?! Are our TV sets even tuned to the same frequencies?!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:31 AM
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if you fail you will be destroyed. nah. incels are generally disregarded by every rung of society. single women, married women, single men, married men.. everyone sees them as whiny, butthurt, misogynistic, prone-to-violence lunatics. So no... there would never be an "incel uprising" like that goofball said.. (side note, he was actually attractive and coulda gotten a girlfriend if he had spent half his energy on that rather than endlessly digging up incel nonsense on the internet)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:28 AM
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men have to settle more often this depends on so many emotional dynamics. I'm not sure about that. everyone is a ball of emotional turmoil and they choose their partners - sometimes - based on the least healthy parts of that turmoil. so who knows...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:25 AM
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But we're talking about the privilege that women have in dating. Unless I'm missing the point? I still don't fully understand what the privilege that women have is. were I to hazard a guess, they are just swatting away dicks until they pick one NOT to swat away. That is - probably - easier than being a flying dick out there, getting endlessly swatted away :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:23 AM
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It's women interest fell under the level NO ONE'S INTEREST HAS GONE ANYWHERE... Men still get gooogley eyed when they see you know what.. and women still get googley eyed too... Whatchyoo talkin' bout willis?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:21 AM
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oh god.. ok so can I use the word chick now guilt free? I get shit for it sometimes but im like "i mean nothing by it! It's just the way I talk... FUCK"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:19 AM
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NO. YOU SHOULD LOWER YOUR STANDARDS BECAUSE IM ANGRY
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:18 AM
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you can stop ignoring men, engage with them, ask them to date, have sex with them what makes you think they don't do this whenever they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:18 AM
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well, tbh this is societally mediated. In Germany/Finland/Iceland (I've heard) women will walk up and ask a man out just as much so as the other way around. And in Iceland specifically it's more common to just have casual sex than go for some boring date just to wind up at the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:17 AM
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No. I think REAL help involves teaching them all this shit is meaningless nothing. 1) don't be obsessed with sex. it lasts all of a couple minutes. it ain't that big a deal. 2) don't wallow in yearning. find something to focus on and get good at it. or drive towards it. 3) have ACTUAL confidence. so that if you ask a woman out and she laughs and makes fun of your hair, YOU ALSO LAUGH because you think it was a hilarious situation. and everything will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:14 AM
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exactly, you teach her that 'you cant control other people'. that's a big god damned lesson. I cant control other people. I can be near them, or be far away. but I cant control them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:11 AM
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Does anyone OWE you their attention? affection? love? do YOU owe anyone that you are not attracted to YOUR attention, love and affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:09 AM
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The more you get rejected the less likely your long term chances that's to people who don't 'play the game' it's a numbers game. if you ask 10 and all say no, ask 100. 2 say yes.. Excellent. ask 1000 and 20 will say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:07 AM
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agreed... but god damn.. i like that BZZZZZT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:07 AM
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Societies are more productive when men have a reason to work and/or fight. is 'more productive' better? Men have a helluva good reason to work when in goulag getting shot arbitrarily and whipped daily. Very good worker. Praductive, Da. but really, When everyone feels heard, and respected, and their needs are looked after, we get more accomplished. no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:05 AM
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she is being tongue in cheek first and foremost.. but also pointing out that it's not so many women and mothers that send people off to die to create the biggest penis statue. it's half serious. half hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:01 AM
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This was the glue that held civilization together. this is just an assertion. no evidence provided. due to the forces unleashed by the sexual revolution and dating apps. also just an assertion with no evidence given. Telling a man that he has no hope of ever finding love or continuing his bloodline who would believe that? have any of these people heard of alcohol and parties? do you know how many families exist due to a random drunk night out that turned into kids and a marriage? get out there m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 05:59 AM
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