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I'm not responsible for what you can see. I'm not focused on your experience here. Can't chase two rabbits at once. If you want advice about something, start a thread, and that one can be focused on you. This one's about her. If this is a gospel you don't believe in already, why are you here?
/r/RedPillWomen01/12/21 02:43 AM
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You sound frustrated. Here you are trying to build up her self-esteem, and you don't understand why I am not helping you, and seem to be trying to do the opposite. Well, I've been doing this for a minute or two (ten years), and I've learned along the way that the intuitive response doesn't always work out the way we planned. So I'll let you in on my thinking, here. You're absolutely right that I am not trying to boost /u/Crafty-Resident-6741's self esteem right now. That's because doing so would…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/21 11:51 PM
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Women who come from a wealthy background are often well-positioned to appreciate other virtues in men. Poor women often think that a man's wealth is indicative of his drive, persistence, courage, intelligence, and other virtues, and this is frequently, if not necessarily always, true. However, to women who grew up around around wealth, money is a bit like air... it's just there when you want it. This allows them to see the difference between men who are wealthy but lack other recommendations, an…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/21 06:00 PM
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Not really talking about wealth here, or financial support. What I'm talking about is an attitude that RPW has to spend a lot of its collective time fighting quite vigourously to quash... this attitude of "I'm a good person, why can't I find the type of man I deserve?" I'm aware that YOU do not have this attitude, but you are talking to a whole bunch of other people, some who are very prone to falling into it. Many women need to constantly be reminded that good person =/= good partner, and that …
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/21 05:55 PM
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It’s doesn’t make you less worthy of being a wife I'd be very cautious with this kind of thinking. Men are not all-powerful gods with the ability, and the responsibility, to bring justice to the universe. They are people trying to live the best life they can, as defined by their wants and needs. Women can't waste time thinking about what they are worthy of, or what they deserve... because the definitions of a 'good person' and a 'desirable partner' are different. To believe that men will, or eve…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/21 05:48 PM
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It was really for the safety of our children. You're making a moral excuse, but it's unnecessary, because I am not morally judging you. RPW is specifically set up so that we don't talk about morality. I'm not talking about your character, I'm talking about your attractiveness, as a partner, to men who don't know you yet. You could have the best reasons in the world for doing what you did (which might actually be the case, I don't know) and still be less desirable because of it. I generally advis…
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/21 05:42 PM
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I wanted to call out your comment because it's a good educational experience for women. If you are a divorced single mom, you're going to end up with someone, if you do, who is lower in market value than the last one. What you did, however, was leverage the difference between "apparent market value to other people", and "real value specifically to me". Your first man's apparent market value was high because of his career and wealth. He probably had other things going for him as well, like confid…
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/21 03:40 PM
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But, I also still feel as though I bring a lot to the table. You are delusional. Here's what you look like to men seeking a partner: Past your attractiveness prime. Spent the most energetic growth periods of your life building a shared history with someone else. Come as a package deal with two of someone else's kids. Come as a package deal with an ex who will expect to be, and have a legal right to be, involved in those children's lives. Not only unable, but unwilling, to bear his children. Thin…
/r/RedPillWomen29/11/21 03:12 PM
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I am glad you enjoyed them. I shall continue to write regardless of whether out-of-touch Bay area tech nerds approve or not.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 03:25 AM
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r/theredpill is still there and that will be gone also. We have our own backup website and they know it.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:59 AM
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Feminism is about equality for everyone. That idea didn't make it past the meeting where they picked the name.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 10:03 PM
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Lawyer up.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 10:01 PM
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Here we see a woman who believes that "writing the weekly grocery list" will make men sexually appealing. She is complaining about her unsatisfying sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:24 AM
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Why would you think that women who talk like this want to be productive?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:16 AM
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If you have found a way to measure happiness, then please tell me what the unit of happiness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 02:14 AM
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Is there a difference between FDS-er and being a RedPill woman? There is no point in arguing about that which can be resolved by experiment. Try to guess which group each of the follow post titles came from: How to give better blowjobs? LOCK THEM ALL AWAY! Time to celebrate this success! Apparently single women can’t have nice things aka my attempt to buy a house Ladies who have overcome daddy issues, how did you heal? Moving in with my fiance next week “Lorena” - the Lorena Bobbit documentary o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:25 AM
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alreadyredschool (who I think started the sub and was also a mod at TRP) Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 05:18 AM
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I am wanting to give women the tools to change their world. It's nice to want things. But you also have to have some idea about how to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:26 AM
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If you don't want me to do anything about the number of women who you think get "raped", then why did you fly in out of nowhere, and start a conversation with me to tell me all about it? I said that women don't know what they want, and instead of agreeing or disagreeing with that point, you joined the conversation and launched this total non-sequitur of "yeah, well, some men are rapists". That has nothing to do with anything I said, and it's not my problem. And if you don't expect me to care, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:19 AM
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It is, but the article only rushes past the fact that it’s risky and it’s not only up to the women to “keep” a man or inspire him to stay That's the part that you have control over. See, what I do when I have a problem is I try to find the part that's my fault. Because that's the part I can change. men have agency too, and they do leave. Sure. All you have control over is some of the inputs to that decision. But those inputs you have control over are more important than you might think. Hell, I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:50 AM
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You say that 1 out of 5 women have been "raped". You have no way of knowing that, and I don't know how you define "rape" to make that even remotely make sense. Moreover, whatever is happening that you don't like is a you problem, not a me problem. I'm not your unpaid bodyguard. So why the fuck are you even complaining to me about stuff? What is it that you want me to do, and how do you plan to incentivize me to do it, other than trying to appeal to guilt, honor, or shame... which I will ignore? …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:27 PM
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So what you are asking is "How do I use this thing?".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:56 PM
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Everyone here has at least heard of FDS and what’s it’s goal is, to help women attract high value men No, that is not its goal. Its goal to soothe women's emotional pain at their lack of romantic success by shifting blame for it to anyone other than themselves. It's a massive ball of "cope". Want to see for yourself? Go look at the top ten posts there on any given day. How many of them contain any "strategy"? How many contain any actionable advice at all? How many contain a new piece of advice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:53 PM
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Many women have been using the word "society" to mean "my opinion" for some time now. Ain't fooled no more. Sure, you can pull some numbers out of your ass, and by "your ass", I mean "a feminist social pseudo-scientist with an extremely flexible definition of words like 'rape' and an over-reliance on self-report data when it can be massaged to say what she wants to hear". Ain't fooled by that no more, either. But neither of these answers the question "why exactly should Whisper give a fuck?". Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 05:30 PM
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Everything someone does is a behaviour. It's impossible to not behave. You just mean we don't obey you and behave the way you want us to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:56 PM
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No. They are symptoms of the destruction of the family structure and the social network. The causes of this were technological and economic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:05 PM
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You are responsible for your successes & failures, failing to meet your goals in dating simply means you are failing and that’s on YOU. This is the part of TRP's message that young men, in general, struggle the most with. They've been raised to think of society as a sort of engine that's designed to take care of people, providing them with a path to a good life. But this isn't true. Society is a word we use to describe a heap of stuff left lying around as a result of others' efforts to care for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:48 PM
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So what is your proposed solution? Solution to what? What is there to solve? Things are as they always have been. About 1/3 of men are winners, and get laid anywhere from "a decent amount" to "staggeringly a lot", and 2/3 are losers and get laid anywhere from "occasionally" to "never". This is hardwired into the human species, and nothing short of sophisticated gene-tampering science fiction tech will ever change it. {women are FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE now!} Yes, they are. I don't pay a damn thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:53 AM
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If you want to have some idea about what their actual life outcomes might be, consider the following two observations. Most of them are very angry at men in general. Those who have been subscribed for a long time are not less so than those who have been subscribed for a short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:47 AM
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No hymen, no diamond. Fixed that for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:45 AM
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We DON'T want to settle down with a loser When you are a loser, this is exactly who is available to settle down with. This "problem" is simple economics. When 99% of the available supply of "hookup sex" goes to 15% of the demand, there is a great market opportunity for anyone who can create an alternative product which can service the remaining 85% of the demand while consuming only 1% of the supply. Enter porn. Porn is diluted hookup sex. By digitizing the product, you make it copyable. Then wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:37 AM
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Or, in the more complete view, a positive feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:35 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, boys are neither stupid nor oblivious to what is going on around them, and are quite capable of forming opinions about, and emotional reactions to, things before the point at which they personally experience them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:21 AM
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In contrast, girls that are relunctant to blow me tend to be quite the opposite and thus, are what many would deem "marraige material." Give less advice, work harder on inspiring desire in women, and you will shed your madonna/whore complex. Every woman is a slut for the man she desires passionately enough.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/21 02:29 AM
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Because horsing around is fun AND gives me useful information AND can be used to predispose you to listen. See, you're coming at this whole question in a way that kind of reminds me of what I get from young bros when they stumble into TRP. They're angry that the universe doesn't behave the way they want it to, and they are full of arguments about how and why it should. And that's a completely internally consistent perspective that cannot be "disproved". But what I point out to them is that it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:20 PM
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I do. I'm playful. All this comes across as random to you because you haven't quite figured out my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:54 AM
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Judging by how angry you are about this problem of yours, you've either had it over and over again, in which case your current approach isn't working... ... or you're in a habit of reading about it happening to other people, in which you seek out things to be mad about, and I dunno what you might do about that, apart from stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 02:07 AM
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You're free to interact with others however you like, and then to deal with their reactions. Personally, I find that when I take some effort to calibrate my message to my audience, receptivity goes way up... but that requires some capacity to react to one's circumstances, rather than solely to one's feelings. If you would instead like all of mankind to adapt to your preferences, okay, good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:19 AM
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I think that 30 year old women are probably not the best example of how to handle unwanted attention with the appropriate combination of assertiveness and grace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:08 AM
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Which is why 16 year old girls have no interest in acting like 30 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:00 AM
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I am impressed by your one-handed typing skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:54 AM
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Make sure a 20 year old girl can handle herself like a 30 year old. So, get 15 cats, drink wine out of a box, and complain that her life isn't turning out how she planned?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:51 AM
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Women have no idea what they want. They only know how they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:50 AM
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It's slightly more difficult than that. But the sacrifice is merely social in nature. The plain truth is that we live in a culture that will eat alive any man that follows its expectations. In order to prosper in it, he must to willing to look like the bad guy. That leap is not easy to make. But once it is made, men often quickly discover that the sacrifice was not so great as they thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 12:37 AM
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Okay, so what you should understand here (and by "should", I mean for your own good) is that, because women have embraced full hedonism, you are completely free to ignore all these expectations. The only material way that women can retaliate against you would be to withhold what they contribute... but they've already done that. What are they going to do, withhold it twice? The reason that you are being barraged with appeals to guilt, honor, and shame (which is the phenomenon you are pointing out…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:50 PM
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You miss the point. Why did you answer the question? If you are off the market, your answer is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 12:12 PM
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I'm happily married. So why are you making lists of what you want in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 11:33 AM
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Anyways, I thought I was going crazy reading some of the replies because nothing about her list struck me as unreasonable but obviously some disagree and me being a woman means I can’t see their point of view. For those who do, why? And is this what men mean when they say women have unreasonable standards? You're confused because you're reading her list, but you're not reading his response carefully enough. You broads will whip up a 16 point checklist of what you deserve in a man in a couple min…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:06 AM
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3) Women are perma-children in the sense that they expect others to take responsibility for their safety, welfare, and happiness even after they have reached the age of majority. 4) All of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 05:36 AM
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So, here is a thing that is generally less desirable, but also harder to get. Okay. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 09:42 PM
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"Should" just means "I want", and "shouldn't" just means "I don't want". So... you don't want men to feel proud. Well, okay, it's fine to want things. What's your plan for making that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:18 AM
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What exactly did you hope to gain with that reply? To convince me that I haven't seen and heard what I've seen and heard? Of course you haven't seen what I've seen, or heard what I've heard. Because you're not looking at or listening to what I see every day, and I have seen every day in the almost ten years since a couple of us created TRP in the first place. Young men don't confide in you, and why would they? You've done nothing to earn their trust, except hang out in this little fanclub and po…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 09:15 AM
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Because of all the feminine men complaining to us that they don't do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 09:09 PM
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What is the problem in having these standards? The problem is that women over 30 feel entitled to your attention, so they pretend they are just trying to "protect" younger women from you. This makes zero sense, of course, because if you are toxic to a 19 year old, you'll be toxic to a 35 year old, too. Do what you want. Just don't expect women to listen to reason and stop whining, because they ain't gonna. Just ignore the noise. You don't want or need their approval anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:45 AM
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"Should" just means "I want". You want women to date down. Historical evidence says they ain't gonna. They prefer to continue whining about where all the good men have gone (answer... far away from her). You also want people in general to call these women out on their bullshit. But they have no incentive to do so. It's not like these women are going to be grateful, or learn something. They're just going to throw a tantrum. But here's what you can do, in your life, to prevent any of this shit fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 04:30 AM
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So you're using divorce rates as a rubric for marriage contentment? How very... interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:10 AM
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If failure of certain racial minority groups to thrive is considered ipso facto evidence of systemic racism, then failure of men to thrive is ipso facto evidence of systemic sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:09 AM
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No. Women want to be treated good enough by someone awesome, men want to be treated awesome by someone good enough. For this reason, a man with high value (as a mate) has a baseline of "nice enough" with as much awesome as possible heaped on top, and a woman with high value has a baseline of "awesome enough" with as much niceness as possible heaped on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:38 PM
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You're surprised by the fact that women lie a lot? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 12:43 AM
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Precisely. Decency is not attractive. Complaining about how decent men aren't getting laid is like complaining about how women with PhDs aren't getting marriage proposals... the trait they are talking about does not produce the results they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 08:55 PM
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Just shows I picked the mod team right. Some carpenters build cabinets, others just sort their tools by size, color, and weight.
/r/TheRedPill26/04/21 06:21 AM
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Admit it... when I gave you that tag, you had no idea it really meant "herdsman of autistic retards".
/r/TheRedPill05/04/21 02:53 AM
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You just said you wanted women to love you. That means that women's love has value to you, no?
/r/TheRedPill04/04/21 08:54 PM
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I would rather have a few people find my ideas very interesting than have many people find them sort of dull, but unobjectionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 07:40 PM
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Look, you don't seem to have realized that I understand you. Yes, you are literally answering OP's question. I know. From square one, however, I have been trying to move on to the logical next topic, which is to understand why women's collective disapproval doesn't change male behaviour in this regard. It's about incentive structure. Men have no use for a little bit of approval from a lot of women. They benefit much more from a whole lot of approval coming from a few. That's why "stop doing this…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:26 PM
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So, basically, your plan is as follows: Women who a man is less attracted to, who are not having sex with him, are going to stop him from continuing to have sex with a woman he is more attracted to, who is having sex with him, by withholding their approval. Good plan. I have one small question, though. Are you entirely sure that men want sexless approval from old women more than they want sex and approval from young ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:52 PM
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I could play the autistic robot game, too, and ask where I said you said they would. Instead, I will present you with two options: A. "There is no reason for men to care about the opinions of uninvolved women, I am just telling you what those women think. Next I will tell you what tree frogs, Mongolian herdsmen, and the French think." B. "I expect the disapproval of uninvolved women to mean something to men, and here's how I plan to incentivize them to care."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:44 PM
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I didn't ask whether they should. I asked why they would. A man trying to get laid doesn't need every woman to approve of him. He just needs a few to approve of him a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:22 PM
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Any man who thinks only low quality women display "pickme" behaviour is a man who not attractive enough to ever have been pursued by a high quality woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:08 PM
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women find it insanely creepy Women other than the ones they are hooking up with. But why would men care what those women think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:06 PM
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Your consistent pattern here has been avoidance of effort. First you want others to go look up some academic so you don't have to say anything at all, then you want to do as little typing as possible, then you don't want to read. Except you were the one who came to this conversation wanting something in the first place... you wanted me to change my opinion on the labour theory of value. But you don't want to do the work necessary to make that happen. Just like all communists, you are lazy and wa…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/21 08:36 PM
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In free societies, we don't police every interaction between two or more people to make sure it meets some arbitrary and subjective definition of "fair". Instead, we make sure that interactions between people are voluntary, and they can decide for themselves what is fair to them. You are free to eject from this conversation any time you like. I cannot force you to participate, and I would not force you to participate if I could, because I am not a communist. The only pertinent question is "do yo…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/21 05:10 PM
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Okay, good. Thanks for being a good sport and playing along, eventually. Your patience will be rewarded. Now that I know what you are on about, we can start communicating effectively. What you have given, here, is a brief summary of how communists would answer the question "how is value created?". However, in my criticism of Boomernomics, and the ways it resembles communism, that wasn't actually the question I was getting at. The actual question that Boomers have the wrong answer to is not "how …
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 07:08 PM
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Also not the question. Quit trying to change the subject and either say what you have to say about where value comes from, or shut up.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 02:46 PM
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Also I'm not so sure boomers rest on the laurels of labour theory of value so much as the APPEARANCE of a labour theory of value. Oh, absolutely. That doesn't mean they aren't crypto-commies, though, just because they're hypocrites. ALL commies and socialists are hypocrites. Hell, even the writing of Das Kapital was funded by das kapital gains.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 08:21 AM
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Which reminded me that maybe "don't be reactive" or "don't get triggered" shaming language in trp community deserves it's own post (disclaimer: not saying you used it here). Perhaps I write one because I think it's just another way to shame and control others to be able to say or do whatever person wants. I've seen it used that way. But what I am trying to tell you is that anger is a weapon only to one's enemy. If you need do something about someone, do it cold. Do it prepared. Don't let them se…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 08:16 AM
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We had some back and fourths here and there over the 1-2 years until he decided to make this personal and start insulting me. Oh, he does that with everyone, eventually. Even tried it with me. You can well imagine how that went. By allowing him to upset you, you gave him what he wanted. It makes you look weak, and gets your attention off the original topic of debate. This is the practicality of what we call "frame control". The "frame" encompasses a bunch of stuff within any social interaction, …
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 08:13 AM
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Not the question. Do you have something to say, or nothing to say?
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 07:40 AM
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Nope. We don't give each other reading assignments here. If you want to tell another person something, you have to go through the trouble to type it, because if you don't care enough to say it yourself, you can't expect their attention in return for none of yours. I don't care what David Harvey has to say. If you have something to say, say it. If you have nothing to say, eject from the conversation.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/21 12:11 AM
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Didn't say you did. You're fussing about him. There is no point in fussing about GayLubeOil. You're not supposed to take him seriously. When he says "X is Y", then it doesn't mean "X absolutely is Y, and I can prove it". It means "consider the possibility that X might be Y. What new way of looking at the world does that give you?" That's why we dressed him up like this. So that y'all learn to look at him as a creative, rather than an analytical, asset. His job is to start conversations, not fini…
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 07:09 PM
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If you keep a dog around, it will bark at the mailman and shit on the floor, but it will also wake you in the middle of the night if someone tries to break into your house. This is just what dogs do. If you keep a GayLubeOil around, it will occasionally call you a loser, tell you that your favorite band sucks, and try to sell you consulting services of dubious value. But it will also point out interesting and enlightening ways of looking at the world, and write funny things that make you laugh. …
/r/TheRedPill29/03/21 05:15 PM
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No, he is attempting to get you to look at moral systems as social tools, not absolutes. You don't get it because he thinks quoting philosophers is a substitute for explaining. Let me help you. "Slave morality" means "the morality that is taught to slaves, in order to make them controllable." Instilling slave morality makes slaves controllable, because it makes them believe that obedience is virtuous. Why is making a list of rules for yourself "slave morality"? It isn't... it is symptom of being…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/21 04:31 PM
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There aren't enough intelligent women to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:03 AM
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Something that really strikes me as a woman is how obvious concepts from trp are to me. Yeeeessss, that's because TRP describes female nature. I think as a women we are pretty clued in on how men work from an early age. Wrong. Women are far more clueless about male nature than vice versa. Most of them are even unaware of the very existence of such a thing as male nature. They not only don't understand, they are unaware that there is anything to understand. Many women, however, do believe they un…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/21 02:57 AM
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That's a lot of words to say "Eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap". Gee, I wonder if someone said that before? Maybe multiple someones. For years. Sarah Hill "discovers" things about mating the way Columbus "discovered" America. There were already people there who knew exactly where it was. Maybe if I jumped through enough academic hoops before telling people the truth, I'd be called a "scientist" instead of a "misogynist". Although, come to think of it, I'd rather not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:22 AM
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Transactions occur when there are willing buyers, and willing sellers. Why are you fussing about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 07:40 AM
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The more you demonize something, the more those who do it will act like demons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:12 AM
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Wrong question. The correct question is "if men want to be more attractive to women, on what aspects of themselves should they focus their efforts?".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:10 AM
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This mental model only really works if men are inert lumps who do not respond to the world around them in any meaningful way. It is absolutely true that women are interested in attracting fewer men, so narrowing down the choices is important, but it's important to narrow down the choices in such a way that she is not left with the worst ones. Any woman can very easily drive men away by developing an entitled attitude. But which ones will be most easily driven away? Why, the ones with lots of oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:02 AM
1

Dunno. Never seen one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 08:45 AM
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If they didn't have bad attitudes, they wouldn't still be on the market for people to find attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:42 AM
0

How common is it for you to notice a woman experiencing "post-coital blues"? Never seen it. How do you think we can better communicate about consent so that men aren't falsely accused or themselves sexually abused? Doesn't matter how you can. You won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 05:38 AM
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Indeed. They are not afraid of retaliation. They are trying to avoid appearing cruel, which is just as shameful among women as appearing weak is among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 05:37 AM
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No one is sexually aroused by personality. Personality is a construct. Women are sexually aroused by behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:22 PM
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I think the only way I could really make it at all understandable is to talk about how we got here. Back in the paleolithic era, a bunch of us hung out in r/seduction, which wasn't really anything like modern TRP... it was old, primitive, PUA stuff. Pick up lines, how to dress, how to act in the moment, that kind of thing. Mystery, RooshV, RealSocialDynamics, that kind of material. But what started happening is that it started drawing a lot of attention from women, who began to post, comment, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 10:34 PM
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Precisely. The only way to have an accurate picture of what TRP thinks is to read TRP. Which most people don't do, because we have deliberately designed TRP in such a way as to make this an uncomfortable process if you not male and actively interested in this stuff. Additionally, you can't fully understand the material without trying it, which puts complete understanding beyond the reach of anyone who isn't male and heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:45 PM
2

I wasn't summoning you, silly. I was referring to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:06 AM
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Not amazing at all. The world isn't divided into nerds who are good at some things, jocks who are good at others, etc. It's divided into talented people who are good at most everything they work hard at (but they have to choose), less talented people who are good at one or two things, and losers. Here is Steve Wozniak as a young man. Here is who Hollywood picked to play Steve Wozniak as a young man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 12:00 AM
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And the definition of "Chad" is... the guy who women want. So apparently, these horrible creatures only like things that they like. Scandalous!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:53 PM
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/u/fleetingwish
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:28 AM
1

Men are all stupid and I hate them for liking stupid sluts like every other girl in the world and not nice, sweet girls like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:27 AM
4

Step 2: Don't be an obnoxious cunt. Step 3: Don't put out "leave me alone" vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:00 AM
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Precisely. Career success raises a woman's relationship expectations without raising her relationship value. The same deal at a higher price is a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:59 AM
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But I don’t understand the absolute anger some users have over the fact that condoms are handed out on college campuses .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 08:22 PM
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I'm less concerned about him not reading early 20th century intellectuals than I am about his basic lack of cynicism. Unless people learn to think in terms of incentives, they can't learn to understand why things happen the way they do. All of human mating behaviour derives from the fact that eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap, which in turn derives from human babies having giant heads. This is just an explanation of biology in terms of the incentives that drive evolution. Similarly, institut…
/r/TheRedPill30/12/20 12:52 AM
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Absolute nonsense. So you think that politicians are not corruptible? That people are too principled to cheat at the highest-stakes game in the world? Son, humans cheat at solitaire.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/20 09:19 PM
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If you allow politicians to break the law in an emergency, they will create emergencies in order to break the law.
/r/TheRedPill28/12/20 09:13 PM
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Depends what they want. If they want praise and attention, all they have to do is take their shirt off on the internet. If they want intimacy and trust, they are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 05:59 AM
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I'm glad you liked it. You are still allowed to read my stuff even if it's not posted here, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:05 PM
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Sure. However, since the only way out of his anger is through it, the best outcome not only for him but for you is if TRP gets to him as young as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:52 PM
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You're not wrong, but I do not think that your point is actually a counter-argument at all. Crushing hopelessness and self-loathing, and delusions of superiority and complete entitlement, are not really opposite ends of an ego continuum. They are instead closely adjacent to each other, to the point where many individuals will vacillate between them within the span of single day, and throughout their whole lives. To understand why this is the case, let's take a look at actual Narcissistic Persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:10 PM
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These women, while socially obnoxious, are in some sense victims of our culture. Here and now, it is socially unacceptable to criticize women in any way, either individually or collectively. Sources of this criticism exist (TRP, etc), but they are shunted away from the mainstream and not a part of the national discourse in any overt way. Hell, Hollywood can't even make a decent female character, because it can no longer show a woman who struggles with anything, isn't good enough at anything, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:34 PM
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I think that’s an awful thing to say, joke or not. The world is awful. It's awful to us because it wasn't designed to have us in it, so it is not hospitable to our wants and needs without us expending great effort to alter it around us. People are awful. Generally unhappy people are most awful. And you cannot cure this with a moral harangue, because the awful truth is that morals are a luxury. Only people who are doing sort of okay have the cargo space to care about the welfare of others, much l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 06:17 PM
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The word incel once simply meant "involuntary celibate", which label has applied to every male at some point in his life. But communities of these sort of men tend to develop two self-reinforcing characteristics: they resent women for not being attracted to them, and they blame everyone but themselves for their celibacy. Either one of these traits would be okay singly, but taken together they are socially obnoxious to both red and blue pilled people. The blues hate them for having negative attit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 06:09 PM
1

Ok, then don't have any. Any other problems I can help you with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/20 01:49 AM
1

What tells us is that the speaker finds sex to be degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 11:50 PM
1

omen kept the responsibilities they always had (childbirth, childcare, and household duties) and added the responsibilities men had on top (education, working, being the breadwinner). Are they held responsible for any of those things, or do they just do them if and when they feel like it? What are the legal or social consequences to a woman who decides not to do one or more of those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:22 AM
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The authors supposed that the positive general evaluation of women might derive from the association between women and nurturing characteristics. This bias is suggested as a form of misandry/'benevolent misogyny', the latter being a concept within the theoretical framework of ambivalent sexism. Hilarious how even positive views of women are perceived as "misogyny". Even the people who coined the term "women are wonderful effect", while in the act of talking about it, just after having observed i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 04:19 AM
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How do I stay realistic without wanting to give up? Because giving up isn't a choice you have. There is only the results you will get if you work on yourself, and the results you will get if you don't.
/r/RedPillWomen26/08/20 12:22 AM
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Objection! Asked and answered. Sustained.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 01:35 AM
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I enjoyed every step of the process. Why? Precisely because I never held myself responsible for saving you. I know that I cannot help you without your active participation. So I don't try. I offer you what I know. I enjoy the process of learning it, I enjoy the process of explaining it, and I don't sweat about whether you get it or not. That part is up to you. Because I don't hold myself responsible for that, because I don't have to worry about that, the whole process is stress-free and I can si…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:16 AM
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The OG RP dude bros just didn't quite understand what they were dealing with when they tried to save Redditors We're not trying to save you. We're trying to enlighten you. You have to save yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:59 PM
0

You don't do it to protect yourself from white people, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 06:16 PM
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The trick is having a calibrated sexuality to one's approach. Being completely non-sexual shows lack of confidence, and dishonesty about one's intent. You look like a "Niceguy". Being overtly and demandingly sexual (unless you have some special social proof or status to back it up) comes off as thirsty, desperate, and socially clueless. The art of the innuendo is useful here. Done right, the implication of sexuality without overt pushiness gives the impression of confidence and even classiness a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:06 PM
2

"Deserve" is a myth. People don't get what they deserve. They get what they get. "Deserve" is a entirely theoretical construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:17 PM
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Lesbians don't date themselves. They date other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:15 PM
1

Women can date themselves? How does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 04:02 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cec8va-bZiU
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:03 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:25 AM
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I'm not asking you to prove anything to me. Using words like "collective toxicity" tells me enough relevant data about your mindset, and further inquiry isn't strictly necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 06:17 PM
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Considering how many incels I've fucked and relationship coached, I'd say I'm not condescending so much as empathetic. I highly empathize with incels. Vaginas, do not actually have telepathic powers. Have sex with someone does not mean you understand him. Similarly, coaching someone means talking at them, but it doesn't necessarily imply listening to them, much less understanding what is being said. It's incel spaces I do not have the patience for. I do not empathize with the collective toxicity…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:24 AM
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That's irrelevant. What relevant is whether it's true or not: It's been clarified and established heavily that False. men only care about sex, False. and will lie, cheat, steal, neg and dread you to get it. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 07:21 PM
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Western women are not, were not, and have never been second-class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 08:22 PM
2

MGTOW is what happens when men experience the anger phase without redpill know-how.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 01:28 AM
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The women for the most part seem to have seen enough to agree If you want to understand women, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. I don't care, it's irrelevant. If the only thing you want to talk about isn't "why do men care about this?", but "men who care about this are icky!", then there's nothing to discuss. De gustibus non est disputandum. You might as well argue about whether or not "horsies" are "pretty". If you can't come up with an allegation of fact, or a question about …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 02:28 AM
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Okay, so when you say "red flag for women", you don't actually mean "I am saying this leads to bad relationship outcomes, and I know it". You mean "the way this is explained doesn't agree with my perception of how the people explaining seem to feel... and that makes me uncomfortable about their motives". Now, this doesn't mean these guys are bad relationship prospects, or that it would matter if they were. BUT, if you like, we can certainly talk about the second paraphrasing instead. The thing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 02:11 AM
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It doesn't matter how they appear to you. What matters is whether you are correct or incorrect in your prediction that pursuing a man who cares about sexual history will lead to a less fulfilling relationship than pursuing one who doesn't. I am unconvinced not merely because the links you make from A to B are sketchy, but because they don't even really lead from A to B. You merely say "I think that they think of all women, in this way" and "I think that would kinda lead to bad outcomes, ah... so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 10:00 PM
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All I see in this response is: I've proven this. Won't tell you any details. Just take my word for it. I want you believe something, but please take the burden of proof off my shoulders and prove a negative. A lot of irrelevant characterizations of comments not in this chain, and of the people who wrote them. If you can't focus on the subject at hand, I don't think you're going to successfully convince me of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 09:44 PM
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I've said that my point is that the guys who are the most adamant proponents of that argument usually/typically don't really view women as people first and foremost. That is your reasoning about their thought process. You are trying to logic out how they will act from what you think they think. Logic is a fine thing, but it's also dangerous. Its conclusions are only as good as its premises. It is inferior to empiricism, because empiricism discovers truth, while logic only preserves it. This is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:13 PM
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Your point cannot be refuted, because you don't have one. You've just characterized his reaction. You haven't pointed out what the consequences to her will be of dating a man who tolerates sluttiness vs. one who doesn't. A red flag is a metaphor for an indication that dating someone will have negative consequences for you. Unless you can say what those consequences will be, and demonstrate that they will happen, you haven't really said anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:25 PM
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Thank you. The point I was making there was not "I am done with reddit, goodbye" (although I would be and will be the moment I am no longer able to effectively say what I want to say). The point was "I'm not doing this to reach an audience with maximum effectiveness and change the worldTM . I'm doing this because the process itself is satisfying." I like to think about stuff, test it, write it down, see how it resonates with others. And I can do that anywhere that I can write a thing down and ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:21 PM
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I'm guessing you're not in a laughing mood right now. You were just so childishly gleeful when you thought you were going to get your way. I prefer, and recommend, a more stoic approach. TRP was fun to build, but when the waves knock down your sandcastle, you build a different one. That's part of the fun. Sand castles are for building, not just for having. http://trp.red might end up being the next project even though we're not banned here (yet). Right now it's very much a work in progress. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:31 AM
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I don't have any boys. The only child that I am aware of is a daughter who doesn't know she's mine, and I don't think mom is all that eager to tell her and husband the truth. If someone who professes to be a libertarian is calling for state seizure of reddit, you are welcome to point out that inconsistency to them. I don't know why you are complaining to me about it, because I am not your daddy. (Unless you are the daughter in question, which is possible but extremely unlikely.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:12 PM
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As a platform it still has no obligation to uphold free speech. Who said anything about obligation? Who said "I demand that a rifle bearing mob (state-sponsored or not) descend on reddit and seize the servers? I have, for example, no obligation to refrain from calling your mother a whore. But if I did so, you might object that it was quite unfair, seeing as I (presumably) never met the woman, and have no idea what she does or doesn't do for money. If I responded by saying that I owned the sign I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:11 AM
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You seem to have confused speech with coercion. Reddit is free to say whatever it wants. And others are free to say whatever they want about that. "Libertarianism" means "we don't want the state to force you to do stuff at gunpoint". Not "we don't want people to say mean things about you if you do something they don't like". Interesting question: do you think reddit is a publisher, or a carrier, of speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:53 AM
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One thing that interests me is how keen socialists suddenly become on the absolute property rights and sovereignty of corporations if what they do with those rights is fight to shut individualists up. It very human and universal to experience discomfort at having to listen to oneself disagreed with. It is not as universal to be so unhinged by that discomfort as to stop up one's ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 06:38 AM
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Because of the combination of two factors: First, women are the gatekeepers of sex. Second, male attractiveness is mostly behavioural. Because of the first, women are hardwired to assume that men are unattractive until proven otherwise. Because of the second, a photograph isn't enough to show attractiveness except in extreme edge cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:00 PM
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Ipse dixit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:54 PM
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Wants are more important than needs, because needs serve wants. I want to live, therefore I need to eat. Every need is rooted in a want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:48 AM
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it just seems like an extremely church lady, unmasculine attitude to me. Like something old catholic women think It makes little sense to respond to the tone of an opinion rather than the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:42 AM
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Isn’t your whole schtick “own your shit”? It's not "own someone else's shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:04 AM
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My impression often is that men have such low standards for women and they make that known and that is such a turn off. ... I have been on SO many dates in which we will have a normal back and forth conversation for about 10 minutes and then the man stops asking me questions about myself and stops trying to get to know me and then talks and talks and talks about himself for the next hour or two, like he’s trying to sell himself. I think the turnoff for you here is better described as "lack of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:18 PM
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If there are so many nice and good guys out there that women are ignoring for assholes, why is getting a good man so competitive? Because your first "good" means something different than your second.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 10:37 PM
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Ah, but how to decide which 5%?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 02:35 AM
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You really, really, really need me to be some sort of sheep, don't you? In case the "holding the spoon" metaphor wasn't clear, TRP is largely a collection of my opinions, and those of a handful of a couple of other dudes of very similar mindset. So what you're doing is looking for is a difference between my opinions and ... my opinions. I don't really understand why you are so upset that you're not finding all that many. Are you just having a bad day?
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 08:51 PM
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If you're looking for the differences between my opinions and what's on the spoon, you're bound to be disappointed, because I'm the one holding the spoon. If that isn't "useful" for whatever you intended to use it for, then you have my sympathies, but that's about it, because I don't know why you would ever have expected me to sit around speculating about what men are like in the first place.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 07:09 PM
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I don't. I do shit to make them chase me.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 06:41 PM
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I wouldn't. Might be true, but TRP is goal-oriented. I'm not trying to teach young bros how to seduce men.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 06:39 PM
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I observed things around me and came up with it, then I went out the internet and talked to some other dudes who were doing the same thing. We never expected it to get this big, or provoke such intense scrutiny.
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 06:38 PM
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This is a semantic argument. You are arguing with them, in essence, about the definition of the word 'science'. TRP follows an empirical process, because TRP as a process consists not only of the material written here, but also of the act of going out and talking to girls and testing this shit. There are, of course, no double-bind, controlled, peer-reviewed studies. Get us some research funding and we'll talk. I, personally, wouldn't describe TRP as science, but engineering... we don't sit aroun…
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 06:35 PM
2

Who ever said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 09:39 AM
4

Damn straight. Good enough is often the enemy of great.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/18 01:26 AM
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I would rather spend my time reading and gaining knowledge so as to attract admiration and affection of others through the means of sharing experiences and ideas. Except you're not doing that. You have no great contributions of knowledge or insight to point to. If you did, you could show me your intellectual prowess, instead of merely telling me about it and expecting me to believe you. Life isn't like television, where the world is divided between buff stupid people who lift, and skinny smart p…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/18 08:27 AM
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I approved this post because the OP attempted to provide some kind of evidence rather than just make wild claims. There's where you slipped up. "Don't cut pieces off infants" is not a "wild claim". It is the default course of action, or, rather, lack of action. As such, it does not require support, because that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. The only reason people might think otherwise is that this is, in certain parts of the world, a common and accepted pr…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/18 04:32 PM
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Women don't need sexual strategy. They need relationship strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 03:01 AM
2

So don't have kids. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 11:27 PM
2

OP could have been more agreeable The human mind doesn't work the way you think it works.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/18 08:05 PM
2

Garnering their support for what exactly? TRP is not a movement. TRP is not soliciting funds. TRP is not starting an organization. TRP is not recruiting. TRP is telling you stuff to help you not wind up as someone else's tool. Looks like we failed you.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/18 10:10 AM
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Male enthusiasm for marriage has declined faster than male suitability for marriage, so this doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 03:45 AM
2

This is a non-question. Society is the aggregate behaviour of all of its members. Being "God-Emperor" would not imbue me with the power to change people's opinions and values, but only with the power to change the laws. And the laws merely determine the behaviour of a proportionally small number of civil servants, some of them armed. My country, America, is a vast number of heavily armed people. I couldn't make them comply with anything that didn't fit into their values. The only thing I could d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:05 PM
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Strikes me as more of a way of not coping. Not everything that neurosis drives you to do is therapeutic... otherwise there would be no distinction between "symptom" and "treatment". You'd be better off forgeting about TRP, TBP, PPD, and the whole business, and going and hanging out in /r/exmormon or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 05:29 AM
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Yeah. If you're emotionally unstable about something, you're going to project it onto what you see around you. TRP isn't for you. It isn't even about you. It's for young men to go to and get what they need to fix themselves. You've latched onto it as a form of outrage porn, because it gives you similar feelings to whatever messed you up in the first place. This process does nothing to help you get better, though. The monster you are fighting lives inside your head, so you're going to need to fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 10:46 PM
1

To what extent do these things disturb your mental equilibrium? Which ones bother you a lot, and which ones a little?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 08:33 AM
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Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/18 07:20 AM
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Oh, I think you can handle that yourself. Simply remember that women have no incentive to tell you, or even themselves, the truth about what they in particular, or women in general, find attractive. And a great deal of incentive not to. So, simply regard what they tell you as information on what they want you to believe. And watch their behaviour to discern what they actually want. For example, the only way you could have real information (if you really cared), about who /u/disruptedmatrix finds…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 06:36 AM
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I know this is a tough question, but it's worth asking, do you really want to ascribe to a thing outside of work, that you'd be embarrassed to take with you into the office? ... They can't control what people think, only how they behave at work I can't debate with you now, because I no longer have any idea what it is you are trying to say. There's a continuum of compliance with widely expected behaviour, from "I shall walk the streets wearing nothing but a sombrero and a cock ring", to "I always…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 07:16 AM
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Do you really want to let a bunch of randos, who happen to work at the same place you do, define the limits of what you are allowed to think?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:54 PM
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You're just where fun goes to die, aren't you? Takin' this waaay too seriously. Okay, Grumpy, we'll stop the jokes and clear up your confusion. Look at the definition of fnord. It has three clauses. It is an effort to prevent someone from speaking, on account of what he is saying for the purpose of preventing him from saying it. Removing off-topic shit in TRP, or here, or in /r/recipes, isn't fnord because #3 doesn't apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:23 PM
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Okay, so, "boring chocolate chip", then. Dudes on TRP already know how to make those. Anyone who doesn't isn't alfalfa enough, and has to turn in his frilly apron.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:13 PM
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Is it something good, or just some boring variation on the basic chocolate chip thing again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:58 PM
1

Semantics. It is an effort to prevent someone from speaking, on account of what he is saying, for the purpose of preventing him from saying it. For the sake of avoiding pointless arguments about arbitrary definitions, we shall from here on out call it fnord. I do not contend that fnord is always illegal, always a violation of human rights, or always morally wrong. However, fnord is almost universally a bad idea, because it achieves the precise opposite of its intended purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:15 AM
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If you tear out a man's tongue, etc, etc. Censoring anyone's speech is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:21 AM
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You don't have to. But unfortunately, I had to make you ask. Because when someone already has an answer they like, contradictory information causes cognitive dissonance, which leads to a great likelihood of rejecting that information as false. One psychological trick used to counter this is to create a situation where they solicit the information. This actually changes their state of mind to a more receptive one. So, now that you asked for the story, here it is. We actually had a sit-down meetin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:08 PM
1

Well, you have two choices. You can decide that's what you want to believe, and so you're going to believe it. Or you can put that question to me, and see what I say first, then decide. Let me know if it's the first so I can fuck off and do something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:32 AM
2

Now you could say that this is all irrelevant because morality is subjective and you have subjectively decided that everyone is wrong and that it's GOOD to manipulate people into having sex with you. I suppose I could say that. I'm sure you would like me to. But if you really want to carry on both sides of this conversation, do so in private. And wash your hands afterwards. A more productive question for you to ask might be "Why did you, and the other TRP founders, deliberately and explicitly de…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:53 AM
2

That's what I thought, but I wanted to be very clear. Better always means "better at". I can't just be "better". I have be better at something. If I lift heavy objects, I become stronger and thus better at lifting heavy objects. If I paint landscapes, hopefully I learn and become better at painting landscapes. When you say "better", in this instance, what you mean is "better at moral behaviour". Now, this is not a nonsensical absurdity, but there is a problem with it. And that problem is that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:26 AM
2

Better at what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 05:38 AM
1

What do you mean, "any more"? How old do you think these men are? As long as you perceive men as an immortal hive mind, their behaviour will always be a mystery to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 07:13 PM
5

I'm out now. But we had a pretty good idea how they tracked things. Never assume the state can find its ass with both hands and a flashlight. The people at the top are just as dumb as the average person... only meaner, greedier, and better connected.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 11:02 PM
8

Increasingly panicked-sounding establishment types have been saying that since before he won the primaries.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 11:00 PM
1

i wouldn't have wanted to get married if our relationship was feeble enough to be broken by something like that. This argument could be used to rationalize anything that puts a strain on your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:18 PM
1

One of the ways you can fairly easily spot a feminist is a woman who keeps her maiden name after marriage. One possible false alarm on this is female PhDs with an academic career. Once you start publishing under one last name, you need to boost that name recognition, and changing it is detrimental. Of course, this in itself has other red flags... PhD. Prioritizes career over husband/family. Married old (had academic publications before marriage).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:17 PM
2

By "we" I meant people with security clearances, not TRP.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 07:47 PM
21

He has no plan to reduce college costs. The use of inefficient and expensive universities as job training programs is the problem here. "Breadth requirements" are nothing but welfare programs for highly trained but economically useless academics, and they turn what would be two years of effective, focused career training into a massive waste of time and money. And that's if you're majoring in something real, not something stupid. The "everyone goes to college" plan is a stupid, failed plan. And …
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 07:43 PM
14

We're not followed anywhere near that closely.
/r/TheRedPill14/10/16 07:34 PM
0

speak about them like they are nothing but objects to please a man's sexual desires. Because everything else is your responsibility, not mine. If you want me to stop looking at your tits, show me that something interesting is happening above the shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:51 PM
3

Yep, I'm unfair like that. It's sluts' and single moms' best move to seek commitment, and men's best move to avoid giving it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:51 PM
0

No one asked you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:27 PM
1

Why marry a RPer? No one asked you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:25 PM
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The telltale sign of a hypocrite is that he spends more energy on condemning a problem than fixing it. If the jesus freaks really cared about preventing the murder of unborn children, they would pass out condoms and teach sex-education classes. Because that actually prevents unwanted pregnancies. And if you really cared about stopping TRP, you'd give these poor hapless misguided young men alternative advice that worked, before their minds were warped by my evil cult. But then you would be left w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:12 AM
1

Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 10:49 PM
3

That's too vague to answer. Positive for whom? Biggest winners from women's sexual freedom: Chads, early-twenties women, large corporations, left-wing politicians. Biggest losers: Beta males, post-wall women, children, religious authorities, future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 05:16 AM
3

As which men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 06:03 PM
8

And what will you do when you discover that human beings have the same instincts everywhere? To get the kind of man you want to get, be the kind of woman who typically gets that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 05:12 AM
10

Then do what you have always done. And get what you have always gotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:18 AM
21

I don't get hit on or anything. Please help me! I've tried nothing, and it hasn't worked!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 11:25 PM
6

Yes, the economic playing field is not level. This is not evidence that the sexual playing field is not level. However, I do not think that the sexual playing field is level, either. But... so what? You draw to the hand you're dealt. Because no matter how poor that hand is, your only options are "work to improve" or "don't". You cannot change the game. Are there men out there so disadvantaged in life that TRP cannot make them into a pussy whisperer? Probably. But some help is better than no help…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 06:06 PM
3

Yes, I agree that it seems that way to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 06:01 PM
9

That's true, I just don't think "how to be more successful with women" is knowledge that's too far off the beaten path. It is because there is so much misinformation. The red pill wouldn't have to be a big deal if it wasn't having to paddle upstream in a river of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 05:40 AM
9

Ignorance is a choice when it is noticeable. You cannot look for something until you know it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 10:57 PM
18

Am I an incel in that case? I mean, I'm not even trying. I'm damn near voluntarily celibate. One needs to draw the line between those who are too lazy to try (voluntary), and those who don't know what to do (involuntary).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 07:30 PM
1

Fallacy of composition + Fallacy of equivocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 08:31 PM
1

What other non-plateish answers are there, besides marriage and ltr commitment? Who has said anything against LTR commitment? The question isn't where to go, it's how to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:29 PM
3

Psychopaths lure week victims in to manipulate to their twisted desires of rape, torture, and murder, which is why their victims are often empaths and children. Okay, so you don't know what a psychopath is, and are relying on the pop-psychology definition. That's just lazy. You wouldn't even have had to read the DSM-5 to get a good enough definition. The wikipedia article is even close enough: Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/), also known as—though sometimes differentiated from—sociopathy (/soʊsiˈɒpəθi…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/16 09:46 PM
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If you walk up to a woman and call her a dumb slut and insult her, you'll get nothing 9 times out of 10 if she's even close to your attractiveness Do you know what the word psychopath means? Or are you trying to use it as a synonym for "rude"?
/r/TheRedPill31/03/16 01:49 AM
2

You should flesh this out into a post of its own. Thanks, I think I will. Women have no skin in the game of cooperative societies, because if the society fails, they just submit to the new male conquerors. I'm also going to steal this quote. But not before paging a random mod, is this case /u/bsutansalt , to add a flair point for it. (Thanks.)
/r/TheRedPill31/03/16 12:15 AM
14

Except for one tiny, inconvenient fact: Treating them like utter shit works. You speak as if women's behaviour is the completely rational result of market forces, while men's behaviour is complete freewheeling and irrational and has no relation to the market at all. Manipulating women like a psychopath works because women love psychopaths. In fact, men acting like psychopaths is a response to high demand for psychopaths by women. This is raises the price, and men are attempting to cash in on tha…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 10:55 PM
2

But when I look at older women around me who are more moderate and mature - my grandmothers, my aunts, my mother's friends - I see a totally different type of person than the people in this sub describe to me. I see women who have stayed loyal throughout their marriage, only to be cheated on by their partner. I see women who have worked hard in a career or are very grateful of their ability to stay at home and raise a family due to their husbands working hard. These are women who exist within a …
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 09:38 PM
5

Women and power do not mix. The microsecond a woman has power she ruins everything she touches with it. She simply does not understand how to act with restraint, or that restraint is a thing. She believes that anything she is allowed to do is okay for her to do. Women are not inherently toxic, but giving them power is like throwing alkali metal into water. The instant they have they will abuse it, not out of malice, but because they simply do not understand the difference between use of power an…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 09:06 PM
3

I understand what you're trying to say, but the misapprehension you are labouring under is that there are good and bad women, good women behave well, bad women behave badly, good women like nice, courteous, considerate men, bad women like jerks, etc. There aren't "good" and "bad" women. Women are submissive (if you want to be PC, you can say "conformist"). They do what is expected of them by whoever they look to as the arbiter of values. This tends to be either a man they are with, a religious c…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 08:27 PM
3

Your "vibes" and "feelings" are a matter of supreme indifference to us. This sub is about sexual strategy. Anything we do is subordinate to that. Which means that women, as a group, can have any behaviour they want from men, as a group. All they have to do is give themselves, sexually, to the type of man they wish to see more of. And women have done so. They have risen up as a group and asked for more selfish jerks. So here we are. And it's awesome. You get to be a selfish jerk and you get sex a…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/16 07:37 PM
2

By this logic, everything you read on reddit is true, because anonymous people have no reason to lie. Please don't be silly. Anonymous people boast all the time. Some people boast about strength. Some boast about intelligence. Some boast about wealth. And some people virtue-signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:39 AM
2

And I don't care if you get results or not... it's written negatively toward women Condemned out of your own mouth. You agree that young men are in crisis, but you don't care if they get help. Or at least, you consider "something negative being written about women" to be too high a price to pay. Your priorities are all messed up. First-world middle-to-upper-class women, as of right now, are the most privileged group of people in the history of the known universe. And still you cannot bear the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 07:44 PM
13

So here I am, a straight guy, reading about a subreddit that I don't agree with, will never agree with, and have personal experiences that outright contradict the 'truths' stated in that subreddit, yet that subreddit is actively trying to claim me as one of their own. I see. I can't speak for every man who ever read TRP, or posted something there. But, as one of the founders, I can speak about the intent and motivations of those of us who control the tone and direction. What I'm hearing from you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 09:55 PM
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Almost correct. The purpose of TBP is virtue signalling. Essentially, they talk loudly about how much they hate TRP and anyone who has anything to do with it, how ridiculous and pathetic (but also how scary and menacing) they find it, and lots of other stuff... in order to tell themselves and the world, over and over again, how much they are not like that. Of course, it doesn't work that way. Hating gays doesn't make you super straight. Hating religious people doesn't make you super-skeptical. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:50 PM
1

So, once you were used it, you started approaching men, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 11:58 PM
2

I was too shy. The "approach" itself is an artificial thing in itself. That's why it's so awkward. The natural, graceful, organic attraction process goes like this: Girl is thrown together in physical proximity to man in the course of something unrelated to mating. 2a. She sends subtle, deniable come-hither signals. 2b. He displays high value and interest in deniable ways. Repeat 2a and 2b in either order, becoming more overt as time goes on. Overt pairing occurs. The reason the "approach" has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:52 PM
2

There are two answers: TRP: If you make yourself attractive enough, you are much less likely to burned by option 3. Here's how to do that. We can't guarantee you will be absolutely safe, but no one ever is. This, at least, will help. TBP: That's not our problem. Figure it out for yourself, shitlord. But don't you dare so much as kiss her without asking permission first. If that makes you incel, so be it. It's better for you to die a virgin than create the slightest risk of making a woman uncomfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 10:41 PM
2

Short answer: Stop being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 02:27 AM
2

It doesn't matter what you find believable. No experience being male, so no expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:26 AM
4

If we did that, you'd think they were pearls, and clutch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:36 AM
2

That is exactly why. You see, OP, being a bluepiller and therefore fundamentally confused, thinks that "trust" means "trust in intentions". But to woman, intentions are a given. "He wants to fuck me, therefore he is not going to murder me. If I am successful, I will be his woman, and therefore I will be safe from him." The trust that is less of a given, and therefore more important to women, is trust in capabilities. "Can he keep me safe? Can he protect me?" A psycho drug dealer can protect her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 10:35 PM
11

Well, I don't, ultimately. All I have to do is avoid her. But it's bad for any man who doesn't avoid her, and it's bad for her. Having self-esteem that's too high will make you just as miserable as having self-esteem that's too low.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 06:34 AM
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You are pleased to jest. And it is a fine jest, but that pretty girl might, in fact, be alcoholic single mother who beats her child. And if men are left to truly think she's wonderful because of the way she smiles, then they don't treat her if she is made out of the same selfish goo as the rest of us. Which leads to problems. Worse yet is when she starts thinking that she is wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 04:33 AM
11

Yep. Except he's not evil enough. He's needs to learn to eat his cornflakes with baby's blood, like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 09:41 AM
14

Get a lawyer. Don't have any interaction with the "justice" system, in any capacity, without a lawyer standing next to you.
/r/TheRedPill04/11/15 11:27 PM
2

You're goofy. Hi, I'm a good woman, not like all those other women, who tore up marriage 1.0. But I don't trust you unless you sign a paper, so you have to trust me instead. Or you're not a real man real RP man, because a real RP man would be able to prevent me from divorcing him under any circumstances. So sign this paper. Yes, it technically kinda says you're a second class citizen with less rights, but your dignity is a lot less important to me than my peace of mind. Well, thanks, but no than…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 10:57 PM
1

Your whole analogy and characterisation of marriage hinges on the idea that formal, long term commitment is always a loss for the man. The dog on a leash vs wolf (false) dichotomy cements the idea that you can't imagine a marriage where the man is in control and happy. I see where you're coming from with this, but to understand the analogy, we have to ask "what exactly do we mean by marriage"? The modern marriage is a far cry from marriage in other, less female-centric cultures, or even what mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:51 PM
0

Res ipsa loquitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 09:28 PM
2

Wolves decide for themselves what they will do. If you want a dog, you can keep it on a leash. If you want a wolf, you must keep its friendship every day. That's a choice each woman must make for herself. The more independent the man, the less he needs you and the more he must be held by making him want you instead. This is a sliding scale. On one end are men you could easily control, but wouldn't want. On the other end are men you would love to have, but could never keep. Somewhere in between i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:44 PM
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Spot on. Actual TRP readers aren't docile and controllable. We don't give out wedding rings and promises of monogamy. RPW readers might prefer German Shepards to poodles, but they don't want a wolf. Wolves bite through the leash.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:19 PM
1

All women believe that male value is born, not made. All male value is made, not born. So called "naturals" are just men who randomly received good training from their default environment. Good genes are never enough to make a good man. This means that RPW are just as delusional in this respect as other women. Like any other woman, they don't want to imagine that their SO could ever, under any circumstances, be anything other than strong, confident, self-possessed, etc, etc. So they rationalize …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:15 PM
13

So, what did this guy do wrong? He put a ring on it. The only power you will ever have in a relationship is your power to walk away. There is absolutely no advantage to giving up that power.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/15 11:37 PM
2

Twoo AlfaTM leaders protect and serve society, and never hurt wimmenz feelz!
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 11:29 PM
22

Haeee Guize, how I get grlfrind to respect me without standing up to her? Don't want conflict. Thx!
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 12:32 AM
2

Actually, I'm a fetus. I have a special keyboard and screen that allow me to use the internet while still in womb. It works pretty well, but frankly the insertion process isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea. One of the funny things I've noticed about liberals, the left wing, collectivists, that whole ideological cluster is their general contempt for teenagers, especially teenage boys. It's like they don't know how to talk to or deal with them (or anyone else with high levels of testosterone), so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 08:45 PM
3

You haters are fun. It's so easy to reduce you from rhetoric to schoolyard insults, simply by exploring the ramifications of your deviant philosophy. You have little or no notion of what creates a community, what makes societies strong, or what makes people actually abide by codes of morality. You're only interested in selling codes of morality you invented, which pretty much boil down to "Give me all the cookies, for nothing". Well, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 09:39 PM
1

I thought you would approve. It is your own philosophy. We are a community with reciprocal obligation to the extent that we consent to be so. An explicit declaration of responsibility for others creates a community. An explicit repudiation of responsibility creates a competitive arena. Declaring that no one owes men any sympathy is wonderfully liberating for us. Because we are stronger, we are mentally and physically tougher, we are more ambitious, and there are a lot more smart men than smart w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:19 PM
4

I owe strangers zero empathy for their needs. Thanks for that motto, by the way, it's crystallized some ideas I had floating around, variations on the philosophy of Ayn Rand and other anti-collectivist thinkers. You've helped me to realize that yes, morality is a social contract, and my only obligation to others is defined by their obligation to me. So if someone says to "I owe you nothing", that's not hostile. That's good news. Because they're telling me I owe them nothing. If they say "I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:54 PM
3

I owe strangers zero sympathy for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:02 PM
3

Do you think you're owed sympathy from strangers for your problems? What problems? I'm fine. I'm gonna keep banging sluts, pumping myself full of steroids, spending my money on me, and doing what the hell I want. In facts, all of these problems you think I have went away when I realized that strangers owe me nothing, and I owe them nothing. The red pill might as well be a big sign saying A need in you does not create an obligation in others. A need in others does not create an obligation in you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:25 AM
9

Next, TRP. Why, oh why, did this blight on the internet appear? It's because our president is a feminist, right? Because the patriarchy is feeling pushed into a corner, huh? Try again. TRP exists as a reaction to a toxic culture created by Tumblr feminists, aforementioned social justice warriors, and legitimate man haters who allowed their crazy ideas to go viral in recent years. I saw TRP coming back in 2010 when the "ironic" hashtags like #KillAllMen started being used. I knew things were goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:12 AM
19

And he's already banged her three times! Surely he will soon ask her to marry him!
/r/TheRedPill28/04/15 04:32 PM
8

I love it when people who haven't looked at my profile or posting history try to get me "look at what the red pill has turned you into". Bitch, I was one of the people who helped invent the red pill. I was posting this shit back before there was comment karma or subreddits. And you know what? It got downvotes, but it didn't get downvoted to oblivion. Because the tinder was there, dry as a bone, and waiting for match. There were plenty of men tired of being shit on for following what everyone (st…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/15 04:28 PM
60

Change: More direct and aggressive with women. Less polite and more confrontational in general. Lift more earlier. Steroids earlier. No stupid high-rep bodybuilder lifts for small muscles. Squats, deads, bench, press, pullups. Engineering major earlier. Sever all contact with fucked up abusive parents earlier. Less student loans if possible. Dating smart women is okay. Dating women who pride themselves on their intelligence, bad move. Dump any woman who won't swallow. Assemble a cadre of male fr…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/15 06:41 AM
1

The only problem I have with this is that it's so good that it's most likely a story you made up.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 03:58 AM
9

She ruined her own life. She tried to wreck his career for petty revenge, and use the justice system against him. What he's doing is declining to shield her from the consequences of her actions.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 08:09 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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