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For this to be true you'd have to simply not talk to her at all. Even if you're not well read in personality psychology at all, you can still very quickly assess if a woman is trusting or distrusting, direct or vague, compassionate or cold (Agreeableness) has a plan for her life or doesn't care, is very committed to her obligations or has a loose attachment to them, is a quitter or is very concerned with finishing, plans things or does things on impulse (conscientousness). Demonstrably not true.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 07:00 PM
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Yeah, no. To her - maybe. That's not what the conversation was about , so the point holds: she will get his sexual best, he won't get hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 06:55 PM
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Ehh this is just a story about cheating/not being over an ex. Tons of those with both sexes. It has nothing about her finding out he's had wild sex with the ex but not with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:54 PM
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I don't see much detail here, it's more about emotions than about sex or so it seems. But ok, that's at least something. However, it's not what the thread was about. I was talking about things you can physically do, that ability doesn't go away so if you don't do it with a new partner -it's on you. Here, you can't really force yourself to feel a certain way even if you want to. The conversation (and thread) started with how men don't want to get subpar sex. They don't really get that butthurt th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:53 PM
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She might be lying about her number of partners as well, so that argument can apply to anything. Absolutely. And you might find out the actual number before you find out she possesses those traits. That's why this argument can apply. She'd have to be an oscar winning actor in order to achieve this. And the argument above still applies. Absolutely not. There are multiple examples of how she changes later and does things you never knew she'd be capable of. You don't think all men expected to be di…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 10:25 PM
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You're missing the point. You will experience these traits long before you ever find of how many guys a woman has slept with. That's why it doesn't matter unless you're in a highly unrealistic situation where you can choose a woman from her N count alone and you're stuck with her for life. I'm not missing your point. I just disagree that you will necessarily experience those traits first. She might be hiding them, she might have potential to develop them in the future etc. Surely you're not sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 06:00 PM
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The research I'm showing suggests that a multitude of factors predict short-term mating, including extraversion. Which again implies that - as I mentioned earlier - a high N count can be the result of many things, one of them being traits that are part of extraversion. No, it shows that short term mating is correlated with extraversion, as well as with other traits that are bad for relationships/marriages. And no, those traits don't predict anything. They correlate with high count. Big differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 10:21 PM
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... What does that have to do with whether or not guys care about women's N count when their own N count rises? It has to do with what your argument is based on compared to another thing that I said and you didn't believe. Most of this discussion is purely anecdotal, including your view on women and N count. Oh no, it's not my view. It's an answer to your question and why people might care about the count. Like, what they feel about it. The question I originally asked was whether you'd care abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:55 PM
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And I'm saying after you've had some experience yourself, I think for most people the thought that any woman you've been with has been with other men doesn't really bother you anymore. Even if you find dicks disgusting. As long as it's lower than your own number, it doesn't really seem like a lot. The key word is "think". You think so. It's just your opinion of how things should be. Whereas the correlation of that number for women with things that aren't very desirable for a relationship is real…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 08:08 PM
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The logic is that once you start having some sexual experience, you stop thinking of sex as a big deal. This applies to pretty much everything else in life - people get used to things they do often. You can investigate this on your own simply by asking men who have some experience with multiple partners. No one says it's a big deal. Other dicks are disgusting, that's all. It's probably tiresome because you don't seem to read what I actually write. Like, literally in this quote you ignore the que…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 06:34 PM
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I don't think a low count makes someone a loser. The argument is that once you have some experience having sex with many different girls, your view of sex changes. Which again brings me to the logic I've explained way too many times. Which again, is just your opinion, there is no other logic behind it. Hm ok so let me get this straight... Am I correct in my interpretation that you think your gut feeling can tell you that you're at risk of getting an STD at the same time as you're not consciously…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:36 PM
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what.the.fuck. are you talking about? I named multiple women from your list who he didn't sleep with? The list is titled as "The following are the women that Ted Mosby was shown to have dated one or more times or had a serious romantic relationship with." Read your own freaking link. At this point, I believe you are just trolling. He has NOT slept with all these women. Click their names in the list and see for yourself. For example: Marissa Heller, was the former resident of The Apartment before…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 05:33 PM
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No, it's not. Or prove that it is. You haven't even clicked half of the links in that list, have you? Just stop. It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about. Lots of these women are the ones he went on 1 date with and nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:02 PM
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I don't think so and can't see why - you'd have to be repulsed by yourself if that was the case, or a giant hypocrite. But we're obviously not going to agree on this. It would only make me a hypocrite if I was sleeping with men myself. Or if I was disgusted by girls sleeping with women. But no. There's no hypocrisy here whatsoever. No double standards or special treatment. Both them and I "aren't allowed" to sleep with men. Also, hypocrisy is barely applicable here, we're talking about emotions …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 09:40 PM
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Yes, and I understand how that thought process can apply if you have been with fewer partners yourself. I don't understand how it can apply if you've been with as many yourself, since I assume you wouldn't really consider sex to be such a big deal in that case. Of course I accept it if you have a high partner count and find high partner counts in others repulsive, I just can't understand how you could feel that way. I'm simply expressing my opinion as is usual in a discussion. Whether you it cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:09 PM
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Well again if she's your number 3 I can see how that would feel a bit weird. If she's your number 45 I don't really see why you would care. Well, I told you roughly the thought process here. If you don't see why anyone would care - there's nothing else I can do. You don't see why YOU would care, and it's fine and up to you, but you aren't even trying to understand the position of others, in which case it's unclear why you even asked? To try and change how someone feels about it? To be able to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 06:52 PM
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So you're saying what you want hasn't changed since you were a child? Mine sure have. I didn't know shit as a child. No, I'm saying that it didn't change completely. Also, explained why people care about what number they are for their partner to begin with. Wait, are we talking about women now? I thought we were talking about men. I'm confused. What? Why are you confused. We are talking about men not wanting to be with women who wouldn't even look at those men when they were in their prime, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 11:47 PM
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What cracks me up about all this is men were the ones trying to keep women out of workplace, exclude them from high paying careers, and/or severely underpay them until like 1975, and now you all are mad that there are consequences for that. You can’t just skip off and leave your ex wife destitute after prohibiting women, en masse, from making money to support a family. I just don’t see how most of you are victims. The dumbest thing I've read today, the day have just started though... What conseq…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 06:33 PM
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No, not in general. I said I got 0 matches in a specific city where it's supposed to be easier. And got no sex from tinder is not the same as getting no sex. If I'm a 1% bottom man, then you sure confirm my point about not seeing anyone who's under top 20%. I would even show the pics I used back then. For me to be a 1% bottom men on pics - I need to be absolutely hideous, as in with deformities, super short and fat etc etc. I'm not. And how would it matter if you said it's easy even for ugly men…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 09:36 PM
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That's the thing - no, I'm not. And not a bottom man myself either. But then again, you're just proving all those trp points. Men that are below top 20% are bottom and/or invisible for you. And that's why you're saying it's easy for all men, cause others don't exist for you. And even if I was looking at bottom men, didn't you state that it's easy even for ugly men? Yes, yes you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:35 PM
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You're telling me something that makes no sense, though. That it's easy for men, when you aren't one. And how is your sentence about "top women" makes any sense, too? I'm not looking at top women or women at all in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 08:29 PM
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It's not. You choose to keep your eyes closed, I guess. I'm not talking about far below average men. And it happened to be so that I had 0 matches in a city that is considered to be bad for dating if you're a girl (cause of gender imbalance that benefits men). I recommend you stop being closed-minded and try to go past looking only at top men (apex fallacy) and your social circles(confirmation bias). Listen to others if you care to know the truth. A few guys are telling you here, but you refuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:56 PM
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In which case it can't be stated that it's ridiculously easy. But it wasn't about you, was it. And no, I don't think a girl would have to compromise as much for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 06:45 PM
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it's not easy even to get a date with a girl they truly like without compromising much. But there are such women. And there are men who get that casual sex. Women aren't on tinder and such to look for husbands. And yes, as you said, if it's 10% women vs 100% men - that only proves my point that it's not easy for men to be those men who get as much as sex with as many women as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 08:09 PM
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studied that, too, and not just a bachelor's degree. What you said is false according to my observations. Yes, they aren't virgins (not all of them at least), but it's very far from getting sex easily. Most can only get it in LTR, and even then - not all acts they'd want. But they can't move on because that will mean another loooong drought. Had an experience of getting 0 matches on tinder when traveled for about a week to a big east cost city for a conference, too. So yeah, I don't think you kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 07:38 PM
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Yes you did, right here: Wut? In that quote there's no word "out" or "break up". Divorce? That's a part of a sarcastic "quote" of how you're acting. What specifically about other people? Hm? The whole thing - it's not about you not loving your husband anymore. For all we know you still do and everything is well. Re-read what you replied to - people in general expect things that aren't their needs from relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:33 PM
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No, that's a bit different. At that point you aren't doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 09:30 PM
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Um yeah. You say this like it's a bad thing. But the whole point of marriage is to make it inconvenient to break up. If you want an easy out, don't get married. Um no, I never said anything about "out" though. Or breaking up. Interesting POV, usually it's the opposite, men saying sex is a need and women saying it's not. But I'm going to defer to Maslow's hierarchy of needs on this, which has sex listed as a base level need. Giga-anal with unlimited partners is not. No, you won't die if you don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 09:01 PM
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Lie by omission is still lie, so yes. But you are free to ignore it and hamster whatever you want haha. Either way, in most cases you won't know what they imagined, so then you can't correct it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:58 PM
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None. There you go. As I said... So no reason is good enough, you're just like "gotcha, you made a vow, I'm not gonna adapt to any changes, follow your vow. Or divorce and pay". Talking about sex, a want is a need. Cause if you want to be technical, no one needs any sex at all, the absence of it won't kill you. Sex is a want. Also, you don't need flowers or his support and understanding, but if he claims he loves you, he usually provides those. And again, this wasn't about you in particular. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:14 PM
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Yep, as long as you don't let them believe something that's not true, as in you know they believe something and just let them (hamster it). Then it's a lie by omission which is also a lie. Otherwise, as I agreed multiple times, sure you aren't doing anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:09 PM
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No surprise, ons is ons. Few men can afford to be picky for those.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:07 PM
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I'm neither, I'm simply aware that, if a male is persistant to find out my number, it has got to be a red flag. Sure sure. As long as you're not lying/letting them believe it's much lower than it is. For me, it's always been "I dont kiss and tell". Males can take it or leave it, idc. Same thing - for a lot of them it's a red flag. And similarly they ask and you can answer/take it or leave it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:20 PM
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It's not. You haven't clarified. Idk, pretty sure I understood that other guy even though he replied with one emoji. You don't seem to understand men all that well to talk about mutual understanding, huh? (mostly just playing, but think about it) He isn't living his life without ever... He is living that life right now. Not right now, but from now on. And that's what I meant - that he won't even experience these things (again?). Idk why it needs to be clarified to you, that it's about present an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:18 PM
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so? it's a red flag anyway, so why not just tell him or break up. Idk, women I talked to don't see it as a red flag and kinda want to know their partner's past too, sometimes. It's kinda like you want to know where you invest your time - smart women understand it AND want to know such stuff, too. But it's hard to get any representative sample like that, so neither you nor I know if the majority of women see it as a red flag. So far it seems to me, that only women who see it as a red flag and/or …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:10 PM
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Idk why you're reading it as that. I thought it was pretty obvious. Wifely duties? Sounds like borderline deadbedroom kinda thing. He could have reasons, e.g. your wifely duties aren't frequent or enthusiastic because, you know, you aren't attracted, but there might be women who are. js.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:03 PM
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No. I am attracted to him right now and he is getting that type of sex so at the very least he has experienced the joy that comes with that at least at one time. However, if you look at marriage from a realistic stand point, people get old and gross, they get busy and distracted. Kids, bills, bad knees, grey hair. I can only do so much (and god-willing I'll keep trying as long as I can). But marriage then is not solely about the sex, it becomes about the familial love and respect of the family u…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:27 PM
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lol so you claim you understand him when you say he should live his life without ever being with people sexually attracted to him and having that type of sex? Are you sure it's mutual understanding and respect? :) jw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:59 PM
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So no example, no acknowledgement of the dictionary definition, no acknowledgement that male partners and female partners are two different sorts of partners. Just a weak attempt to insult. The only thing I don't understand is what is that in such people's heads that lets them convince themselves to just ignore logic completely. But that's a rhetorical question, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:18 PM
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1: This is craziness, right? Intelligence is maybe the sexiest and most important thing in life, right? Or at least one of the sexiest and most important things in life, right? The answer to this explains everything. It's a supply-demand kind of thing. Maybe the sexiest you say? And water is probably the most important thing for survival, yet it's much much cheaper than diamonds that nobody really needs. It's easy to get what you can get from an intelligent woman, i.e. a conversation, exchanging…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:57 PM
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no idea what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:42 PM
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That's of no interest to me. I'm just here to point out the mistake. Men who search cuckold wouldn't necessarily want it. Maybe majority would, maybe not. But definitely not "men who search" in general, as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:39 PM
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So as I said. This statement Men who search cuckold would want that is false. Men who search cuckold could be some bulls and not want cucked. Not to mention men who don't want to be in the scenario at all in any roles and are just using that category currently because of its novelty cause are tired of whatever they were using before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:07 PM
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To be honest communism is an insult to all people who work hard in general period. I mean you literally and figuratively give away blood, tears and sweat that you invest in work, whereas some other person gets to spend it all drunk/drugged having all the good fun. Sorry, but where is the "justice" there? Eh not taking any sides here, but this description sounds more like capitalism and what you have in the west right now. Your low class who literally and figuratively gives away blood, tears and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 09:02 PM
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Yes, yes you can. Because you don't have to have a particular job to have money to survive. No matter which job you have - you are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:55 PM
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No, because you can't separate you and your body. Looks is merely a shape of your body period. As pointed out 2-3 times already - your body is a necessary condition of your existence. You ARE your body + some more. Take your body away - and you don't exist. Take your job or money away - and you still do. Unless you're saying you identify as your job title, then I can only say it's sad and don't assume all people are like or should be like that. It's just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:31 PM
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No. What you have is not a part of who you are. It's by definition a separate entity. There is you AND there is what you have. These sets don't even overlap, let alone one of them include the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:15 PM
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No, that's not who you are. That's what you do/have. I understand perfectly what others are talking about. The problem is that they don't understand they are wrong. And I'm pointing out where - looks and money are not anywhere close to equal. Again, take status/power away - and the person is still that person. Take the body away - and there's no person anymore. Or add status. A person is not his job. A person hasn't stopped being himself just because he got promoted or demoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 08:16 PM
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Yeah, I commented on a particular point, commented on a comment to what you linked. Not on what you linked overall. Commented on the whole thing too and no matter how you spin it, there's no paradox or question here. Looks is a part of who a person is, money isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:59 PM
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Yes, that was. That's exactly why I joined, to clarify that logical mistake you made. Right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7b89y9/q4all_is_higher_intelligence_a_trait_that_women/dphmbu6/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:27 PM
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Sigh. Again, it's not about what you judged for. You are who you are with or without money. You don't exist without a body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:21 PM
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In this universe they are not equal. Again. It's a whole different aspect. It's what you physically have. Material belongings. Take them away - and you are still who you are. Take your body away - and you don't exist. Yeah, no one becomes more beautiful at 60+ years. How is that a counter argument to what I said? Yes you did confirm what I said. When you're old looks are not what they were at the age of 20. And hey - you also aren't who you were at the age of 20. Cause you're not 60. And look di…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:48 PM
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Eh okay? I just did. Yes, they don't like 20 year old models = so they are not 20year old models. Like, what was your point? You just gave another example confirming what I said. p.s. most young 20 year old women literally don't look like 20 year old models, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:00 PM
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No, money is not a part of A. You can't add or subtract things with different units.... His job and money are not who he is. They are what he does and what he has. What he is is a combination of looks and character.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:58 PM
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No, it's more like how we define friends and care about them. I do and you don't. You don't put their interest above some weird artificial constraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:56 PM
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It's not about me. And if anything, a body part is a part of them. But the point is, a person is a sum of his looks and character. If either of those things changes or is lost, then they aren't who they were. Now the question is, how much their partner valued each component.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:55 PM
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No, it's not as much at all. It's a whole different aspect. It's what you physically have. Material belongings. Take them away - and you are still who you are. Take your body away - and you don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:03 PM
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It's very simple. Without our body we are no one, we dont' exist. We are our body and more. A body is a necessary (but not sufficient) condition to define who we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 08:02 PM
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It's always a good idea to get your friend's back. If they get mad at you, it's ok. You're doing the right thing and they will be thankful in the end. Because they would want to know, most guys would want to know if you ask them. You won't be responsible for them breaking up. And you won't feel guilty. You said the truth, it was up to them to decide what to do next. It's the liar who's responsible, not you. It might be best not to get involved only if you don't care about either of those 2 peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 07:56 PM
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And once again, it's not getting involved in people's relationships. It's not just some people. One of those people is your friend. That's a selfish position and simply shows that you're not a friend as you claim, that's all. No wonder you can't tell a dick move from a friend move.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 07:51 PM
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The question is how he knew. If he doesn't follow her around, then it was likely to be rumors. I don't trash talk people based on rumors even if they turn out to be true in the end. It doesn't matter how. He did, and it was true, she later admitted to it herself. He didn't just talked based on rumors. Firstly, he saw some things himself. Secondly, if he didn't see, he referred the friend to very sources of rumors, so he could get info from the first hands. Never said she was right in lying, just…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:17 PM
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He doesn't. He gets to relate to his friend and tell him what he would like to know himself. And then it's up to the friend to decide what to do with that information. Again, I have no idea why you're siding with a liar over your friend. That's why I said you're a shitty friend. It's not his place to judge her and maybe he doesn't. It's his place to get his friend's back and tell him the truth, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:14 PM
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OP told Harrison shit about his girlfriend behind the girlfriend's back. And I bet that a lot of that is rumors too, because unless he's a creepy stalker, he wouldn't know so much about someone's private sex life besides rumors that are spread around. I asked him under his other comments - he witnessed some of those things himself. Also, him being a stalker is irrelevant here. No idea why you're trying to shame him and turn it on him. What he said was true and the girl admitted to it too and cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:37 PM
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Good luck making it through any real-life debate with such arguments m9. Yes, context is irrelevant and doesn't change the fact that events mentioned took place. Disagree? Explain why.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:00 PM
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My policy is to not get involved in other people's dating issues unless I saw something really bad like cheating or committing a felony. It's not my job to be the police of what they want to or don't want to reveal in their relationship. So now that's a dick move. If you KNOW (like in the story we're discussing) you're friend is getting shafted but you won't tell him because of "mah policy", then you're a shitty friend. And no one is saying about "policing" anything. A friend was being lied to, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:59 PM
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Yes, it is irrelevant. No, you are not correct. Not just because you say so, definitely. And here you're saying that one should be a bad friend when their friend is being lied to and directly says he wants to know the truth. And how does the context matter here? She did the things her bf was informed of? Yes. So which context suddenly makes it not the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:45 PM
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Didn't see it in the report. The 5th paragraph there is about something else. The blog you linked has It is not known whether the illness prompted the breakup or whether the couples in the study who divorced were already experiencing marital problems before the diagnosis. If couples are happy before the diagnosis, it appears that men are more likely to abandon wives who become seriously ill. If couples are already troubled before a partner becomes ill, the finding suggests that women in unhappy …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:38 PM
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eh yes they are. Facts are truth. He simply listed the events that took place. Context is irrelevant. Of course, siding with a person who lied you want to bring up the context because that person lied. But no, that's not relevant. Liar's feelings aren't relevant, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:35 PM
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I did some research :) But it was just trying to click all links in the article you linked + in comments. I'm not that interested in the topic and the burden of proof is on you, so I wanted to take advantage of that haha. Yes, I did find this last link you posted myself. It was somewhere in the article or comments. I even went one step further and found http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.24577/abstract and even http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cncr.24577/full However, let …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:24 PM
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Exactly. Some other guy can meet and date her. And if he doesn't care about her past, she's better off with him. Saying the truth is not trying to blow up relationships. It's giving a man a chance to decide what to do himself. If anything - if he chooses to break up over that - it's her who blew up the relationship, not who filled her partner in. Trying to blow up relationship would be lying that she had a slutty past when she hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:14 PM
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Hey yes she could, but so what? It's not like he lied about her past or claimed that she's still doing it. He just told his friend the truth. It's up to friend to decide what to do with it, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:56 PM
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And again, the key words are "I ever knew". Also, that leads to a question of how you measured their n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:58 PM
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You're walking in circles at this point. Of course fat women can rack up high counts. All a woman needs to do that is to want it. Again, for women it's about "openness". For men it's not. Almost all men are open to sleeping with new girls or having specific sex acts, yet - the majority of men doesn't get laid with new/hot girls and the majority of men ask on forums how to convince her to have anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:27 PM
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Yes, 25 is a small and biased sample. 1. It's your social circle,2. it's probably the area you live in and maybe some areas you traveled to. 3. That's a group of people who somehow for some reason would tell another man their n count and not lie (as you assume) - then probably it's your friends... So yeah, bad sample. Not to mention that even there you say that not all extroverted. And whose n count is higher than average? Of all 25? Or of extroverted ones and then that's the reason - that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 07:36 PM
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lol it's like you're trying to find sexism where there is none. Knowing how people in STEM are, I'm 99% that what OP said would be brushed off because it was dumb and she is just not good enough to understand it. But she shouldn't worry. When guys suggest something dumb it's brushed off, too. Sometimes they are made fun of/teased for that. Is that what she wanted - for others to vocalize she said something dumb? But then it would look sexist and she would think it's cause she's a girl ... oh wai…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:59 PM
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Lol yes but the script is not written to accommodate. And these people always argue with what they think you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:32 PM
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The porn is just pictures on the screen. The dicks were in which tells a lot about her and what she actually did. That's not just being afraid of his judgement. That's to trick him into being with her so she can get all of what he can offer (predatory), including his money, too, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 08:18 PM
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Slave owners never harmed slaves :) They just kept them from leaving them :) How is intending to keep him from breaking up with her not harming if he would rather break up if he knew the truth? Also, if lying to him and tricking him into wasting his life on a person he wouldn't choose is not harming.. How is breaking up with her harming her? Like I'm not sure what you're arguing about - are you saying that doing something is not harming another person as long as you have your other interest in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:50 PM
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Eh no, in your scenario she is attempting to harm him. Assuming he would judge her for her past = she thinks he doesn't want a girl like that.But. She IS a girl like that| AND|=> intends to harm him to get what she She tells him she's| wants (him). not a girl like that|
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:35 PM
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And because child support impacts a man's bank account, he should be able to terminate any financial obligations. My money - my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:18 PM
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I am male. You sound like women when they say they want "nice guys" lol like "duh, of course I meant I want attractive nice guys!" On PPD its silly to make that assumption without pointing it out. Unless anyone still reading this thread disagrees? Just like with nice guys, it's clear for everyone here that "attractive" is implied in reality. Yet, I had to specify because you would bring up ugly girls. I thought you knew. Grass is always greener. No matter which path you take, there's always a sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 08:36 PM
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I did not assume this. Why would it be obvious? I guess it's not if you're not a guy. In future, please assume that when men mention anything about wanting anything to do with women, you add "attractive enough" or "hot" - it's just implied. In this particular case definitely everyone is talking about sleeping with cute/hot chicks, I promise. Well since now we're on the same page... yeah Well .. yeah . lol The peace of mind of not being sex-starved is a good feeling, but you don't need to be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 08:32 PM
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It's almost as bad as murder. Similarly to murder you take away person's opportunity to live the life he wants to live. And he might end up with a person he would never want to end up with if he knew the truth and he will live the life he would never want to live. Or if that cheating leads to pregnancy - then it is basically genetic murder if the man doesn't know he's not father and raises somebody else's genetic lineage while not reproducing himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 08:21 PM
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The bar is not high. It's just most guys would prefer not to go around fucking the ugliest, slutty chicks on a constant basis. Which is understandable. There's not much benefit to fucking loads of girls anyway. It is insanely high. It's obviously assumed that no one is talking about ugliest chicks. There are guys who fuck loads of average to hot girls. That bar is insanely high. And there's a lot of benefit to it: being happy and in control of ones' sexuality, not to mention variety and confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 08:03 PM
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In regards to the Slut and Stud double standard TRPers always tell us that it isn't a double standard because it's a fact that women don't care about the sexual past of their partners and that no high value man would date a slut. That's not why it's not a double standard. It's not a double standard because they are two different sexes so they have two different sets of standards. But I'm open to hear all why you think that this isn't true. But most importantly that the method makes this "researc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 07:42 PM
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"A man is worth" lol It's not "just" and not "or". He necessarily has to be attractive to his target audience. The bar is high. Many men who would like to fuck loads of girls will never do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 07:16 PM
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No, because only a worthy man can get a high n-count. YOu can't compare these two things like that. You can't say that 1 meter is longer than 1 kelvin. They are things with different units.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 10:09 PM
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This is coming off a post about double standards on n count. The crux of the debate was that getting sex and dates is easier for women. There is no double standards on n count. There are 2 different sets of standards for 2 different sexes and they aren't based on whether or not it's easy to get. With the rest I agree, but they just won't do that because they don't need to. Demand-supply. As long as they are perfectly happy with who approached them compared to who they can get if they approached,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 10:07 PM
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It's not encouraged by puritan thinking. It's encouraged by ages of evolution. Many girls do feel disgusted by promiscuous guys. Many don't. Because they are attracted to the qualities that enable his promiscuity to begin with. And it's not about just slutting around. Most guys don't "ew" at girls who slut around with other girls exclusively. When your puritan thinking WOULD make them ew at that. But no. It's all about having a dick of another man. Yes. Always did for humans. The optimal strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 09:55 PM
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Doesn't matter. I don't care about how hard they work. Some men don't work hard for it at all. Had many dicks inside - disgusting regardless of the motivation. You were talking about biological differences? There you have it. Only one can be a baby-carrier. The other one biologically is risking to raise someone else's babies if doesn't find sluts disgusting to commit to. Add hundreds of thousands of years of evolution to that. No double standard here at all. None whatsoever. Standards aren't def…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 09:22 PM
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No, that's not a double standard. Both are adults? Have the same standards in that field, sure. As in - can apply for driving license etc. Consent? Sure. But slut-stud? Not a double standard. Not a standard related to them being adult at all. It's related to their sexes. Two different sexes, two different standards. Chasers and selectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:55 PM
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It's not a double standard. Two different sexes - two different sets of standards regarding sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:14 PM
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That's just wrong. It's not only about who was the chooser. It's also (and mostly) about a number of dicks she interacted with. Don't believe me? It's easy to check. Most guys wouldn't mind if she had sex with other women (or maybe will even be glad and hope that they can bring other girls for both of them). 1 female partner is not equal to 1 male partner in her count
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 07:12 PM
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It very well might be 80/20. 80/20 includes those who have sex once a year into 80 (or a few times a year, but still, the study doesn't say anything about frequency and the number women), don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:21 PM
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Everywhere where there is supply and demand and where people (or other subjects) exchange things - economic terms are applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:00 PM
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It's so high that many men on tinder can't "afford" a pussy they would like. And either have to settle for a much cheaper one or stay with 0 matches and 0 result.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 06:06 PM
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Sorry, but the analogy is bad. Is there a low that forbids drunk sex in any form? No. Is it possible that she had drunk sex and won't accuse anyone of rape? Yes. In that very thread someone was saying that if she's tipsy it's ok or something along the lines. Now is tattooing prohibited under any degree of influence? Or is it legal if a person is like drunk but not too much and knows or thinks that he knows what he's doing, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:13 PM
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I honestly don't understand what you don't get. As I stated in the beginning - faithfulness has to be included in that definition whatever it is. And then you ask me so what is definition? Doesn't matter, but it has to include that. And speaking of bible - commandments... You shall not commit adultery. Pretty straightforward. I've no idea how you can't understand that loyalty is a very old concept. Definition? This one will work for now: Love - feeling of deep emotional and sexual attachment, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:07 PM
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No, just like in the comment where it all started. Being okay with other men putting their dicks in her. Loving her. Pick one. Nope, the burden of proof starts with the first affirmative claim, which was pretty much what you said in your first paragraph here. Sex with other people is compatible with love. Being penetrated by another dick isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:44 PM
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No, don't forget the context. We are discussing men being okay with other men sticking their dicks into and defiling the women they love. OF COURSE you won't find a word about love in THAT article, because it has NOTHING to do with love. That's the whole point. And of course I shouldn't prove that love is NOT letting that happen. I would need to prove that it IS letting that happen, because that's an affirmative claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:36 PM
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Title misleading. Expected to read why women like rimming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:20 PM
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All these words are just that - words. The reality and results is all that matters. And the fact is - no matter what you say - that most men can and go get LTR but can't and don't get casual sex. Men are more choosy picking LTR because it's easier than getting casual sex. They can't afford being as choosy with casual sex, because they might just not get it. You are telling me that if a wife told her husband that she wanted to start just having casual sex and he is not okay with this, it's becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:00 PM
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Gross. http://imgur.com/247XSDb
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:57 PM
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Keep looking. The article didn't have that word, of course. Because it was about women taking dicks of other men. This has nothing to do with love, that's why you don't see that word there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:41 PM
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This is not a biology study. This is a sociology study at best. The data is self-reported and doesn't matter. The whole field is not better than astrology with reproducibility rate of 40% and not meeting simple criteria of science. It's not science, so who cares? Even if it was science and anyone cared, the fact that data is self-report - and it was shown that women lie about sex stuff - would be enough to dismiss it. No physics or chemistry study is based on teh questionnaire. If they didn't WA…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:39 PM
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Keep looking then. It's the one that includes/implies that you don't want a woman you love to take dicks of other men. And idk simple google search would show something like this http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/topics/adultery with relevant parts of bible written.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:32 PM
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That's patently false. It is easier to get LTR than casual sex. In case of LTR stuff like "oh well he's not super hot, but he's kind to me, treats me well, etc etc" works. For casual sex it doesn't matter. You can't make up for the lack of attractiveness as much. For men it's vice versa because LTR is easier to get. So men's standards are higher for LTR, but lower for casual sex - they will fuck whoever is DTF because why not? With women - it's the opposite, because men's standards are lower and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 05:27 PM
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It's not open no matter how you want it to be. And woman being loyal to a man she loves is a very old concept, there's literally nothing to argue about for poets and philosophers, it's in the bible even. Trying to bend the definition to justify slutting around is the only possible reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 08:37 PM
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I thought it was pretty clear that it's defined through sexual success there. If he gets all the sex he wants - he's an alpha, if not - then not/beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:56 PM
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For what men? For men in general? That would imply all men and then you're wrong. For some men = the minority of men? Sure, no one ever argued with that duh. But talk about back pedaling, facepalm. Re-read the post, it's written as if it was about men in general. And if it's about the minority of men? Then the view is wrong - you can't say they aren't more selective, there's just not enough men to see any trend. But those few men who do have freedom? They are obviously selective - unless you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:50 PM
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I'm not back pedaling, I'm explaining what I actually meant to say, because you didn't understand at first. Not everyone is a native english speaker. Once again - add or not add that billion, most men DO NOT live there anyway. Therefore, in fact, there's no sexual freedom. What percentage of population should be able to get a legal prostitute 24/7 so that you can say there's freedom? I'll remind you, that 13% of population of US were slaves and apparently it wasn't negligible enough (or 87% of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:49 PM
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Who says I'm making that decision? And who says I was making that decision? oO Your definition. They have a different definition which is the only definition that is valid for them. That's the thing about love, you don't get to define it for anyone but yourself. It's not MY definition, it's the initial definition. No, that's not how it works. You can't redefine words that are already defined. Call it something else but love - like luff or something - and no one would argue. Words have definition…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 06:40 PM
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LOL facepalm. Yeah they are all special snowflakes. And who are you to decide that they love each other, huh? What anyone says is worthless. Actions and definitions is what matters. Allowing other men to fuck your women is an objective action that can be observed and happens to not fit the definition. Nah, you have no idea what you're talking about. You and those people just rationalize your behavior, so you can seemingly get the best of two worlds without making choices and facing consequences.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:27 PM
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So they won't have any freedom, because they won't be able to have sex with who they desire. Nah, crappy idea. At least now they have a shot because they can make up for the lack of physical attractiveness. lol you're proposing a system where only rich people can make any good money. Poor people can make money as long as they don't take anyone else's money. No, they don't have any rights or any benefit out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:39 PM
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No, it doesn't. They are in relationships and fuck each other and fuck other people. No contradiction. He was talking about men loving their women. If those men loved their women, they wouldn't be ok with them getting fucked by other men. That's his point and no contradiction so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 03:37 PM
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What you meant to say is that sexual freedom exists for men with money and time off who can afford travelling. I know tons of men who have none of that sexual freedom you're talking about. And it's not freedom for men. It's just freedom rich people always had.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:53 PM
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At least they don't die virgins and do have ways to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:46 PM
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Nope. Only if it's ALL people having sex with who they desire. Because otherwise you're saying let's give freedom to some people but completely revoke it from other people. Most men wouldn't have freedom, so how is this freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:43 PM
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The use is just fine and not sure how what you said contradicts what he said. He never said anything about men in all types of relationships. He said men don't allow a woman they love to etc. Not "a woman they are in relationships with".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:13 PM
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If it doesn't make it better for the majority and in fact makes it worse, then there's no reason to stop propagating "you have to be this or that". Simple. There will always be people who are sick or poor. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 08:06 PM
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It's both. First of all, the more guys the more likely it is someone got it better. But also of course taking multiple dicks itself is just gross and disgusting whether she worked harder for those guys or not. Don't forget, that in most cases high count means those were casual partners. So it's already something they got better - she slept with them and didn't mind if they slept with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 06:40 PM
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yep, this is why what you said is irrelevant and definitely doesn't help to make you point stronger. It's doing the opposite, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 06:32 PM
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Factor 1/3 out. They can give a combination of sex and money. 1/3*(sex+money). Or if we consider sex a resource, kinda like money but separate, then yes 1/3 of money and sex. I mean, for some reason people who have money do give them away so that those who don't have them contribute. And again, if you read the 2nd paragraph there's a way not to give sex away. Just pay for it with the part of the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:39 PM
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Doesn't mean everyone will want it to stay that or that it should stay that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:36 PM
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It kinda does in a way. Just like he's forced to work for others and is basically 1/3 slave, might as well make people give away 1/3 of the sex they have. But in this case even that is not necessary. Just have prostitutes on salary paid by government(tax payers just like they pay for other stuff for other people). Sure, top prostitutes can afford have their own rates and be paid per visit (which incels have an option of doing too btw), but some women/girls might want to sell sex for the fixed pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 06:34 PM
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women already go for the guythey want, which already leaves most guys in the cold, getting leftovers after top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:23 PM
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He is. The government takes 30% of his time/labor. IF he starts working 30% less time - he won't keep all the money he made. He'll make less and will still have to give X% of it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:13 PM
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yeah lol, surprised you even have to explain this. How dense should one be not to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:11 PM
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lol with reproducibility rate of 40% or so it's WORSE than guessing. Knowledge my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:57 PM
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Fuckbuddy/casual sex partners is already a red flag. It's actually good if they are vastly different in the sense that she doesn't have them, but has serious boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 04:01 PM
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Not plenty. Otherwise men wouldn't consider one girls like that as something special. I've never talked to a girl like that or heard any of my friends tell stories. Or maybe there are girls, but they only don't need to be gamed by 20% guys and need to be gamed by everyone else? Well then your point didn't change anything, whether it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 05:47 PM
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Nope, ons, fwb, short-term relationships are not normal stuff and are under her control. Of course, it's easy for a woman to get high numbers. That's one of the reasons it's not respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:49 PM
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Consent doesn't matter in the count. You count a number of dicks she interacted with. Nonconsensual sex is still sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 11:43 PM
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That's incels. I'd assume most men here are not incels, they are unhappy that they can't get all the sex they want on their terms (like other men can), not that no one will date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:48 PM
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Huh? No, you aren't being an asshole to anyone, you're just making yourself look as a try-hard. No, I wouldn't watch you or any man have sex. Again, porn mostly is focused on women and what they do, men are barely shown there if at all. There's also tons of porn with no men at all. You are just trying to trigger but you're making 0 sense. Here and in your own thread multiple people explained everything to you already. And either way, all this is besides the point. The point was - if a man wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:19 PM
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Why do you even consider something as subjective as a "view" to be of any relevance? I don't offer my opinion or view. I'm just pointing at the definition. No, I want you to type a definition you are using so I can refer to it, otherwise you'll be saying that the definition I post (if I post it first) is wrong or whatever and the time will be wasted on that. That's why - I want you to offer a definition yourself. And I'll show you how there's nothing hypocrite based on your definition. However, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 04:28 PM
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No, it's not a problem. A problem is that you are making conclusions about something you have no knowledge about whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 04:10 PM
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Ah, trying to make this about me. No, not about you. Just seeing this phrase way too much. "oh you better off without him/her". Clearly there's no agreement to be had here and you're not interested in actual conversation, so I'll move on to something else. Of course I am. I even took my time to explain and show how it's not hypocrisy. Did you google the definition yourself? Looks like you are the one not interested in a conversation. Or maybe you googled, saw the definition and that you were wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 04:00 PM
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Yeah, if you watched it a few times, you'd know that you're not looking at another dude. Not to mention that there are no dudes in, say, lesbian porn. Either way, wanting anything you see in porn and/or know other man can have does not make you gay or bi or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:43 PM
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Looks like you don't understand the point of most of the porn. I watch videos were girls are getting satisfied or acting as if they were. Or videos of girls doing something which I could imagine being done to me. I think maybe there are videos of blowjob focused on a man and showing a man instead of a being focused on a girl's face? Idk, I don't watch those. Yeah, it's simple, as said above: there are people on the sexual market that get all that that you see in porn - anal, facials, threesomes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 03:26 PM
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yawn, I don't get triggered by such obvious trolling, sorry. Others already have explained everything to you there. It's only not straight (bi- or gay) if another male is involved. Nothing bi otherwise. It's simple, actually. There are people on the sexual market that get all that that you see in porn - anal, facials, threesomes, etc. Wanting to try it is simply not wanting to be a loser and never try what other men get to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:21 PM
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Nope. It also has repeatedly helped that innovation. Different times. The idea is, the system set all that in motion. If inventors/scientists had no reason to contribute, they would not contribute. Globalists and liberals are antiscientific. They don't even know how many genders there are and are trying to add more. They support affirmative action and giving places of people who'd qualify and could contribute to people with lower score just so their minority is represented with more people. Scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 03:53 PM
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It was a great system that brought us where we are. If it hadn't been for it - good luck making all those inventors and scientists contribute. Such a huge leap in science and technology after enforcing monogamy speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 03:55 PM
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Nah, we're talking about getting laid. Everyone wants to get laid and learn what it takes. Most scientists actually do science or whatever because they think being great at something and doing something cool for humanity will bring them validation and sex. All men do is subconsciously for that. That Freud's assumption is very believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 06:35 PM
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some women will FWB men that they wouldn't dream of marrying while waiting and hoping for a man of their dreams. The FWB/plated man is just a stand in while she's looking for a man who excites her sexually and emotionally for a LTR. This is common. So this guy gets to fuck her with no commitment, while the other one has to pay more for what another guy got for free. af/bb. many more women would like to FWB a nice guy for the sex but are too worried that he'll develop feelings for her or he'll fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 09:05 PM
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No one said they are ignoring social skills. They don't ignore them. And no one said it's impossible to learn. The rocket science is just easier to learn. Like really WTF are you talking about and arguing with?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 07:04 PM
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Their egos are irrelevant. Their degrees and accomplishments speak for themselves. They are learning, but it's not enough to just want to learn, unlike rocket science. And haha you must be a nobel laureate or something if you're judging those people. Lol lazy scientists. smh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 10:14 PM
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No, not a good sample group simply because of the size.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 07:45 PM
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lolol and if he tries hard but doesn't succeed, then he just didn't try REALLY hard? Now THAT is a stupid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 06:54 PM
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Rocket science is much easier. Most scientists and rocket scientists in particular have zero success on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 06:52 PM
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And that's still patently false and not enough. You indeed could go without it, that was already assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 06:47 PM
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Trying to insult someone doesn't make your argument less of a nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:58 PM
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The man of average height could be 7 feet tall if he was 7 feet tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:40 PM
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No, you are just plain wrong and I'm right. You can agree to disagree about what kind of music or food each other likes - subjective things. This subject is objective - most average guys either get casual sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:39 PM
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No, they can't. Mentioned multiple examples that I know of above. And you can't use "then it's not a true scotsman. No true scotsman puts sugar on his porridge " "oh they didn't pursue it enough, otherwise they would get it". Because a) it's illogical. b) it's patently false - I saw people who pursued it and failed. c) who are you to say if they pursued it? Or are you defining it via result and I didn't get laid because I didn't pursued it even though I know I did? Then see the whole conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:32 PM
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No, initially you said most average men get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 07:19 PM
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No, that's wrong. I am taking average as defined by your via height etc. I see guys who you define as average not getting laid for years. And please no, you kinda have no right to even mention occam's razor after all those scotsmen. You can't employ one logical tool while ignoring more fundamental things. Again - if you are investigating how Y depends on X (in this case Y = getting casual sex, X - being average), you absolutely can not define X in terms of Y. That is absolutely unacceptable and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:31 PM
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Ok, you assumed. That's what I thought. Well, I'm assuming they made it up in some cases. And then? Don't base it on your friends only. Guys tend to feel defensive about their sex life and if you're a girl - you won't necessarily get the whole truth, just saying. No. Again. That is not how it works. You do not define average via the thing that you are investigating on dependence on being average. That's illogical. You define average first - then you see how it correlates with getting casual sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 07:04 PM
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No, that's not how it works. I already explained multiple times. What you are doing right now is trying to define "average" via the result in getting casual sex. That is wrong in principle, because we are investigating whether average guys get casual sex. And the value of how women perceive you is a little different thing. We are talking about being an average guy BEFORE women see you to begin with. = you're average in looks/height /etc. Not better but not worse than most others. It wasn't all c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 06:05 PM
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And I'm telling you, using your definition of average, that most average guy don't get laid consistently. Also, it is pretty close to absolute. An absolutely one is made simply by look at normal curves of height, weight (for example) and finding the averages there. At this point I question that you know they could get laid and saw it or they just told you. And no, that is once again a notruescotsman. No true average guy doesn't get laid if he tries enough. Scratch that. You can't use it in a deb…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 06:02 PM
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Ahahah because someone called you out on your bs he's an omega? LOL. Good old ad hom - the last resort of people who are losing a debate. There was also no rage. No idea why you see logic and telling you things that you could read in textbooks/derive yourself if you were educated in non humanities areas as aggressive or raging against you. I am also talking about who consistently tried for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:55 PM
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NO. That's not how it works. If you are looking at the dependence of something (getting casual sex) on some parameter (averageness), then YOU CAN NOT define that parameter via that something that you wanna study the correlation with. Therefore, first you define average, which you did - 5.5 height etc. THEN you look at data. And guys are telling you - and their sample is larger than yours - that you're getting a confirmation bias. Most average guys do not get casual sex consistently. Especially o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:47 PM
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It is a lot, especially for an average guy. And duh tindering every night and going out two times a week is what I'm talking about. Notruescotsman one more time :/ Aaand moving goalposts too. Stop, just stop. You defined an average guy already. It's a criterion that is objective and separate of their success in getting casual sex ( since some average guys want LTR for example). Only AFTER that you're looking at whether they get casual sex if they want to. And what you are trying to do? Say that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:45 PM
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Which I assure you they don't. I wouldn't even get a girlfriend except for someone around 30-30+ who can't get anyone better to marry. Again, you are committing the same fallacy. You are now defining average via getting laid just so the result fits what you believe. That's not how you do it if the question is whether average guys get casual sex. You first define average via something independent (which you did - described looks and height etc), then you see how many of those people get laid. I j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:39 PM
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Once a month is a lot still. And not only RP guys are telling you this. See, I'm telling you this, too. And low value? Define low and high value separately from getting laid once a month. I'm 100% sure that I know examples that aren't low value according to any reasonable definition and who don't get laid. As for me, I am very confident I'm not of below average value or at least wasn't back when I tried tinder and all. Have pics and degrees to show for it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:34 PM
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No, says your definition you typed somewhere above. You are committing the same logical fallacy again and again and again. You are saying that a person is not trully average if he doesn't get the result that an average person should have according to what you believe. You're being completely illogical now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:31 PM
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No, most average guys don't get laid. Yes tinder is a numbers game, still most guys lose in this game. I am most certainly above your definition of average in both looks and social skills. Below average social skills = a guy wouldn't even get a girlfriend or operate in society normally - talk to people, work with people ..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:17 PM
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No, they don't. What you described is already not around average. But even if it was - at any party an average guy doesn't get laid. There are tons of people who party and smoke weed. MOst of them still don't get laid. I just don't get it why you want to believe they do so much. Guys are telling you. And guys know better, they talk to more guys than you and have their own experience. But it's up to you of course. Unless you saw your most average guys have sex, no guy will believe you here anyway…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:15 PM
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They will be fine in a company of women, too. I know I am. Fine - yes. Getting laid - not necessarily. Same league looks-wise if they swiped right. The rest is game/competing with other options. Which you said yourself. And which also means only top few % will get laid and be best option. And that was the whole point -not most average guys get laid, so no idea what you are arguing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 05:04 PM
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It's a selection bias. Or those guys are lying to her. I highly doubt it she actually has seen them having sex with tinder matches. Tinder chats mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 04:39 PM
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Because they don't want platonic convos from women and don't pursue them for that. And when they do - they pay therapists. At the same time, women do want and have sex. The attempt to make an analogy failed. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:00 PM
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No, it's not weak. It has the same relationships between subjects. You failed to prove it's weak. I looked at any side of the coin. You need to stop whitekniting on the internet though. That's not doing you any good + can make your brain degenerate. E.g. not seeing that being active is harder than being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 10:19 PM
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And here's another reminder why social science isn't science. This thing is as scientific as alternative history or astrology something. She takes some numbers and write completely made up and non-falsifiable "explanations" of why it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 10:04 PM
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Of course, you can. Can't you say it's hotter in Sahara than in Antarctida if you've never been there? You can. Can't you tell it's harder to work to make money and/or become rich than to just count money others bring to you? You can obviously see who's active and who's reactive/passive and only acts IF she wants to and IF an active participant acted. It's pretty clear who takes the risk and for whom it's harder emotionally and in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 08:06 PM
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Because it's irrelevant. I'm talking about which side is more difficult and exhausting. Not about any personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:57 PM
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The point is - most women can get hookups if they want hookups and they can choose not to hookup and just have platonic convos if they don't want hookups. That's much less exhausting than not having options. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 07:55 PM
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Which I did and I would much rather filter through different options then had to look for them. And again, it's a fact, that chasing things is way easier than choosing one of the things that come to you themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:18 PM
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Those who want to and choose to hook up can easily do so. I think you're missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:13 PM
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It is a fact, that counting money (or sex offers) that people throw at you is not as exhausting as trying to make it. Oh the money can be in different currencies and you have to sort through them? How tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:33 PM
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Yes, women keep hooking up. Why is that? Not the same thing at all. People aren't messaging me for money because I don't have it. Women do hook up with guys they meet online. That's the reason guys still use online dating duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 08:29 PM
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You can disagree all you want, but the fact remains the fact. Yeah, they can be different and some are worse than others, but they all present themselves and all she needs to do is pick the best for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 10:27 PM
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oh so you don't understand. Then I have no idea why, it's pretty obvious and there's plenty of proof if that's not enough. Having to count money when other people don't even have it? ZERO reasons to complain. Not as exhausting as trying to get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 09:50 PM
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How is it relevant what I like or not? Oo Women like sex in principle. Sometimes they have it with guys they meet online, so I don't understand your point. Guys don't like just giving away money in principle, so what's the point of comparison? p.s. also yes, either way, I would like messages asking for money. They mean people acknowledge I have a lot more money than them and think I can help them = I get validation and reminded that I'm rich. But since I'm not rich, I won't be getting those mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 07:32 PM
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I don't pretend anything. Again - then you should understand that the chasing side is more exhausting, so not sure what you are arguing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 07:30 PM
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of why colleges accept students. It is not to "reward them". They accept the students they think will be the most successful. Successful students = more money and prestige for the university when that student becomes alumni. Lol no, you should graduate first before teaching me, I think. The only possible way to know which student could be successful - is their score. You know nothing else about them. And stop taking every word literally. There are abstract…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 07:29 PM
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Again, in this case you should understand that the chasing side has it worse and more exhausting. Having to count money when other people don't even have it? ZERO reasons to complain. Yes, I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:52 PM
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Not only searching - but them message every single one of them and many times to get any result. That's WAY more exhausting than filtering through. Once again - you have zero excuse here. Don't match with more people than you can filter through. You're making no sense. "Awww poor me, it's so exhausting counting all this money I have. I disagree it's more exhausting to work or be a beggar. Counting money - that's where it's at".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 08:20 PM
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OF course it would be exhausting. That's the whole point of this argument - it is really exhausting to chase and create options. Much more exhausting than filtering through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:28 PM
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I don't send anything anymore. I also never wanted to be laughed at and whatnot and would send 1 message per match and yeah I tried to refer to profile, etc. So Idk maybe a couple or 5 a day? More in the beginning, less when you swiped everyone already. Needless to say, I wasn't special and that "strategy" didn't work well :) Should've swiped right on everyone and send multiple messages to everyone every other day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 07:08 PM
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As many as the number of matches I get. How many matches I get? Not so many EVEN if I swiped right on everything I assume. Which I didn't, so very few. But somebody already told you that being on a chasing side is much more exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:32 PM
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Why would I get messages asking for money? O_O Also, I am already getting messages asking for money all the time - ads, spam, they are all over my browser.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 06:31 PM
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I don't send anything anymore and for a while. I found something IRL. But basically - 1 per match which aren't that numerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 10:43 PM
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Lol OF COURSE. Not only two days, but namely Saturday and Sunday. I don't work on weekends, why would I be reading forums? O_O As you can notice, I haven't responded to anyone in those 2 days, while I see that you did respond to others :) Honestly, it doesn't matter when we are talking about accepting students. Accepting students = choosing the best and rewarding them for whatever they were doing and studying before applying. No, I don't understand. How does it matter who the game appeals to for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:27 PM
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You send as many as you need until you start getting results. Again, it's way way more exhausting than receiving those messages. I tried online dating. There's a reason a lot of guy aren't happy with it and don't find what they are looking for. I encourage you to try your own advise and get sex as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 07:53 PM
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LOL pathetic. Once again, just leaving the convo once provided with an argument. Read the scenario and show how it's equal or admit that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 07:51 PM
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I'm sorry about your experience. Maybe now you should understand OP better than. More messages - more replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 08:23 PM
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I believe on bumble you are supposed to message first and if you don't in 24h - you're unmatched... maybe that's why you aren't getting messages - cause they can't message you? If they get messages, it is impossible that you aren't getting them. https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903 https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144422591
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:57 PM
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I seriously doubt it. Not just that -I'm also sure you are getting some messages too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 07:44 PM
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They aren't less qualified. Lets say you are the head of a magazine company and you are trying to reach out to a new demographic of black people. Who is more qualified for that position: a black man who grew up in that culture? Or a white woman with similar GPA and experience? Probably the black guy... even if the white girl had an extracurricular sport or slight better GPA, the black guy would still be more qualified for that position. That's all good, but I'm talking about STEM departments. Gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/17 06:29 PM
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How do schools benefit in having less qualified but more diverse students? What do you measure this in? Do they get more money for those students? Because they do have less prestige if their alumni are worse. How does it benefit the school? And also who gives a fuck if it does? It also benefits cotton farmers to not pay their black workers, but we kinda all agreed that it's discrimination and decided not to continue. Now since you seem slow, let me demonstrate you what's happening. You have a sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 08:07 PM
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No, I'm not ignorant. I'm afraid you are. Or just illogical (which is the same thing for a stem major). No, hiring a few asian women is not discrimination. It's like hiring for one job position is not discrimination for people who'd apply for another position. Making sure there's at least 40-50% women - is. 40% women in director boards - how is that not discrimination? AA is not hiring an asian women specialist (who doesn't have to be female, by the way, to reach that market. Just like lots of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:52 PM
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THere is a comment right under the comment I linked. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/67sbe8/so_do_you_guys_and_gals_support_mens_rights/dgu7o2x/ And no, my comments are never stupid, and definitely not that one clearly showing how AA is the opposite of equality + asking direct questions which are supposed to be answered by polite people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:33 PM
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No you didn't. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/67sbe8/so_do_you_guys_and_gals_support_mens_rights/dgu10i9/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:23 PM
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Ahahah and there you have it - ghosting the conversation once gotten the arguments you can't deny. Next time admit to being wrong and learn from it. That's like the 10th time I see you doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 05:18 PM
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I completely disagree. Men and women offer different things. As I said in another comment, male teachers get a lot of affirmative action benefits because schools see how it is beneficial it is to have male role models and a male perspective in the school. They don't and can't see any benefits from them. They are definitely not getting any benefits from the market. Then what benefits are you talking about? How can you prove that there are benefits to have male role models - how is that measurable…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 08:57 PM
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No, I'm saying that you need to not only mention your experience but also guess and estimate what happens to other people. Otherwise - what's the point of you sharing your experience? You just want to share it or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 06:43 PM
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About guesstimating how it is in general. I'm saying that experiences are all nice, but you can't make a general statement that hotness doesn't matter based on your experience only. That's all I'm saying. I'm pretty sure that just like most people in mainstream "don't notice" afbb and 80/20, you might not notice that certain types in the subculture are hotter than other types. I'm sure it's discriminatory and not everyone has equal success there. And those who aren't hot for mainstream are on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 04:17 PM
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You make a good point. That first option is really only available to people with a switchy bent, or someone who is not naturally sub trying it for a while as something of an "apprenticeship". It doesn't work for everyone, especially since Doms are already outnumbered. Some people enjoy taking on that mentor role though. The whole point of classes is to gain the knowledge needed to be a safe Dom, so that you can find a sub and gain experience without as much risk. There are people on both sides w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:07 PM
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The problem is that most people won't share their experience, cause they don't even read this. Those personal anecdotes are pretty limited, especially if you're going into a specific very small scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 02:02 PM
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If you remove all teeth, a person will have 0 problems with teeth. But he probably might want to have a say in it instead of it being decided by his parents when he's a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:43 PM
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And the best way to learn how to be a good Dom is to be a sub to a good Dom for a while. . Also, that's not how Dom/sub works, you can't just decide to change. Don't see the irony? And again, so how does a man get that experience if he has to compete with 20 others for 1 dom? Classes and seminars are nice and all, but worthless if you can't get a person to do the things with. Switches aren't necessarily subs or Doms, they're their own thing. It's like bisexuals, they're not gay or straight, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:26 PM
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Well see, but in this thread we aren't talking about one person's experience only. It's in the context of how it works in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 01:23 PM
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Would they? There's still a lot more men, even doms. Why would a girl choose an inexperienced one and how does one get experience in such conditions? And yeah, it works just like that for the experiment. Just changing it in your profile should bring you more dates/options? Not talking about whether it falls apart when she understands you lied. Also - isn't there a term switch that works exactly like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:19 PM
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I'm interested in agreeing on general trends. Your experience is fine, but then there's my experience, for example, where I can't really join the scene all that easily + complains of others ( " It's not like if those guys suddenly change sub to dom in their profile, they would easily or at all find partners. (and then be like - hey, dominate me, you're a sub and that's my order).") That's all I'm saying. Like,don't get me wrong, I would love for you to be completely right - I would only benefit …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 07:17 PM
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Probably he wouldn't. Again, just reading all his comments in the sub thread. Read them yourself, and tell me that you think he doesn't care about the number itself. Like, he describes the line of behavior he has to follow to get them to talk about it. Why would he go out of his way to know the number if he didnt' care? But then again, only he can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 09:44 PM
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Yes, I now see how things work. It's said blue side can't really put up a fight at least in the past year or so that I've been reading this place. I got my eyes open on a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:40 PM
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Obviously her actual n count is the part of the issue. He is going out of his way to find it out. I didn't say shit about him that he didn't admit himself. Not really. I was talking about you saying shit about, not just saying something. This part: someone so obsessed that he'll hack your computer and interrogate you like the FBI. No need to shame him for hacking the computer or compare with the FBI. He wanted to know something and made sure he got the right info. AND he was absolutely right to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:29 PM
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Based on this conversation I believe I'm more qualified than you. You understand that we need to agree on the premises in order to call a statement 'logical,' right? I disagree with your premises. Your logic doesn't hold up. And it doesn't matter how many times you reassert that you're being 'logical' and those who disagree with you aren't, because we disagree on the premises. No, you are not. And the logic does apply regardless of whether you agree with something or not. I believe it is you who…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 03:25 PM
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Re-read what you just wrote again. Are you really a person to talk about logic? And sure, you can be in denial all you want. I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:10 PM
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I didn't imply it, I pretty much said it explicitly. The only one who had actually serious feelings was your husband. Who, btw, did ask your count at some point. The fact is - you broke up with others. They'd make a lot of different choices if they were truly serious with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 08:21 PM
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Considering that a dream woman of most guys wouldn't mind them sleeping around - sure the latter sounds good. But in reality - getting lots of casual sex is much harder. It is very easy to maintain a relationship if a man wants to. The former guy also has more chances to end up marrying his dream woman than a guy who can't get lots of casual sex. That guy will end up marrying a woman that he could get, and will spend the rest of his life convincing himself that it was a dream woman. Kinda like s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:12 PM
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That's dumb. You can't compare earnings - it doesn't take into account how many hours was worked. You also can't just compare men and women without making sure you're comparing exactly the same jobs and positions. If someone worked longer or just has a higher position - then that will result in the difference between the averages. But it's not a gender gap, it's a position gap, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 09:38 PM
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If you can't see the difference in his posture and facial expression vs. the last three guys then you're proving my point. Yeah his posture is preparing to be taken from behind by another guy. Hands are handcuffed around the metal post so he feels more dominated and that he can't escape. Some hardcore gay action is about to happen. https://media.giphy.com/media/8fxad4tvqIzwk/giphy.gif p.s.How is Gay 3's posture gay? He's just standing straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:47 PM
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How would you know if a relationship is perfect if there was no sex yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 09:22 PM
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N=(Age/2-9) and if it becomes closer to double digits than to 0 it's already icky, so I guess something like 5-6 is the upper limit. No casual partners among them. Why would I commit if someone else could fuck her without it? Seriously though, it just doesn't sound desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:51 PM
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I'm not saying it's not true that you stay "friends". But "just wasn't in the cards"... Riiight, never once and now you're almost 30. Must be bad luck.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/17 05:54 PM
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lol riiight. That must be it. Keep being in denial, please. Not going to talk you out of it.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 06:38 PM
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Yes, they are running from a relationship with you.
/r/RedPillWomen07/04/17 06:37 PM
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The percentage means 0% in this. Again, whether a goalkeeper failed 3 out of 3 shots on goal or 3 out of a 100 - there still will be a "3" in the goals scored. Not answering = answering. And they don't need to ask. You give off that vibe and they are running. It was bad luck or whatever at first. But now that's what it is. And come on, you bonded? With 15 men? And they all left you? No, you didn't bond, don't lie to yourself. Girls who bond then don't have other men for years.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:17 PM
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Some will when they ask and you don't answer. That's already an answer. But the thing is - they don't need to. You got changed and don't even realize it. Of course they are running away and don't want exclusivity. You give off that vibe that you went around town. You can't control it and don't see it, but now it's clear that's what it is. That's the topic you are most defensive about.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:13 PM
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The frequency doesn't matter as much. The speed at which you're moving to that promiscuous territory doesn't matter. 10 mph or 50mph, all that matters is how far you traveled.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:06 PM
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-150 dates and double-digit number of sex partners. -I am selective. You have to pick one. Yes I can relate. To men. It doesn't matter where they live. But sure, I guess you can keep thinking that you know men better than me. After all, 150 dates and all.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:05 PM
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First few - nothing wrong. Once it gets closer to double digits than zero though... Double digits - that's it. Double-digit number of guys were special to you? hahahah lol indeed.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:02 PM
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it definitely applies. You're full of yourself and aren't reading anything. The most you do - is argue with literally everything. Good luck.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 08:01 PM
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Visa is easy to get there. Most likely you would find a work, too.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 07:54 PM
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facepalm. 3 times.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 07:53 PM
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No, it's because of the number of dates. Yes, 150 dates by the age of 30 and still no relationship. After a certain number it really looks desperate already. And it's quite a lot for someone who is almost 30 and has never been in a relationship. My friend is almost 30 and has never been in a relationship. He's had maybe 5 or 10 dates or something. Because if you're single it doesn't mean you should just go out with everyone. You can, say, get a PhD or something. And go out with someone you reall…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 07:52 PM
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Cool, now google premarital sex partners and marriage stability. The idea is - the more you have, the harder it is to bond with every new one. And no you can't look and now the number. But your gut will tell you to run, sometimes. And again - the bonding won't be as cool. But haha keep being in denial. I think I see the problem now. Well under 20 still can mean double digits. And I'm sure that's what it is, since you'd just say a number otherwise given it's an account specifically for this issue…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 07:49 PM
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Move to eastern europe.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 05:01 PM
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Lol keep being in denial. And keep not reading the messages people send you. It's pretty clear now that you only listen to yourself and are here just for some attention and to hopefully for you get some confirmation of what you think. This sentence is the THIRD time in a row I'm asking you to stop replying and arguing and if you want to argue/discuss - do it via a personal message.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 05:00 PM
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You do on forums, that's for sure lol. The logic is not flawed if you were on 150 dates with different guys. Just the fact that you stopped after that doesn't suddenly make you more selective or less desperate in general.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:58 PM
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The end result is at 28 you never had a boyfriend let alone a high quality one. So you are as far from a marriage is it can be atm. Your life just begins and it will be glorious I'm sure. But right now the truth is - you never got a bf. How many was it then? Cause it does sound like it's well into double digits otherwise you'd mention it long time ago instead of avoiding it altogether. I'm almost sure now that it's a 1000cock stare.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:56 PM
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Then what is it? Of course it's relevant. Yes the number is a reflection of who you are of course. Yes they care. Asking about your past is indirectly asking about that. No, stop looking for excuses. All women men are attracted to are seen as sex objects by those men among other things. Again, send a personal message if you want to discuss it. No reason in doing it here. But I guess you aren't reading everything people tell you, guess whoever said you are all into yourself were right :)
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:19 PM
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That's called a selection bias. You don't meet all men. Maybe you are paying attention only to that kind. THe majority is like that maybe, but you only need 1. Do you want to bet that there are committed men in your area who don't just want to hook up? Keep looking. Good job, keep doing that. But it's not just asking. You should look for signs. Like his past. What's his sexual/dating history? Why? etc. So X months. Same thing. You don't get to know men, that's for sure. The evidence is that you'…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:16 PM
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You said it here https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/5xpzdi/if_a_woman_can_get_lots_of_dates_lots_of_fwbsex/dek0h2p/. Of it not - then what is it? Yes, you don't. Just the fact that you are getting approached doesn't mean you should go out with them. Actively dating most likely means you come across as desperate. A break is good for you, you must stay alone for a while and evaluate things. You'll meet someone when it's time.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:13 PM
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That's what you're saying and how you are describing yourself. For all we know - it could be wrong. By red pill standards, all that matters in the end is the result. And the result is that you are almost 30 and never had an LTR ever and currently can't get mediocre men to commit to you. You aren't high quality by these standards. That you have "your" dream body and enjoy your life - good for you, but doesn't make you high quality. You did say that you were with 25-30 guys our of 150 that you dat…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 04:11 PM
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Your N count at your age is high. If you have so many partners, that does look like you are casually getting in with different men. If you were looking for something serious, you would go without men for extended periods of time - like years sometimes. Basically whenever you are single. But you aren't going without men, you're dating like it's your job. And yes most likely you do give off that vibe already and you can't control it. And that is not a problem. Men do think about sex when they see …
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:23 PM
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So people who think you are high quality - you don't date them? Because you think they aren't looking to settle down? Maybe you should like ask them first? And I understand they might lie or change their mind. But you can see at their past too and see if they are a player type or LTR type. Honestly, you shouldn't even date every man you meet. You should maybe first make sure there are mutual feelings (to an extent) and then date. Not just wait X dates for sex - that's artificial.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:19 PM
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1) So no objections that it's higher than 20-25. My point holds. It's extremely high. Remembered it from here. https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/5xpzdi/if_a_woman_can_get_lots_of_dates_lots_of_fwbsex/dek0h2p/ 2) And that's weird. They never cared about committing if they never cared about your past. As others said - vet better. But anyways, the point was that they "felt" it because of your vibe. You can't control that. 3) No, you don't. And they don't have to stay with you if…
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:14 PM
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Ok got it, thanks.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:06 PM
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By red pill standards you aren't high quality if you can't get mediocre men to commit to you and are about to hit the wall at your age and N count, but you still call yourself high quality on this "red pill forum". So no, that's not an excuse. p.s. don't take it personally, just being blunt, not intending to insult you or anything like that.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 03:06 PM
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The ratio doesn't matter, the number does. IF a goalkeeper can't reflect 3 shots on goal, it doesn't matter if it was 3 out of 3 or 3 out of 100. IT's still 3. Either a goalkeeper is bad or defense, which doesn't matter. How? They can just feel it, the vibe you give. You're saying it yourself, that somehow you give off a casual sex vibe. That's why.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:24 PM
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Then you wouldn't call them mediocre. You don't know the society's perception at all, so don't refer to it.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:21 PM
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You mentioned something around 30 iirc. No man dreams "oh I want to meet a girl and be her #31". Liberal LA or not. Men don't compare your N to N of other girls in the area, they compare it to their own standards. They don't, but probably it's "leaking" through the way you behave at this point. And that's what you observe, isn't it? That you give off a vibe that "screams Sex!".
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:21 PM
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What you feel and that things are the way you want are irrelevant factors. What you're told is "let's just see where it goes" when you're looking for LTR. Why are people who say you are high quality not dating you?
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:19 PM
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1000 cock stare? Didn't you mention that your count was well into double digits + dated around 150 men counting those you didn't sleep with?
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:17 PM
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His point is that your perception of them as "mediocre" is probably leaking. No man wants to commit to a woman he's not the best for.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/17 02:15 PM
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Statistics of self reports doesn't bother anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 09:07 PM
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Lol how is that a proof of anything? But also - yes, it was explained by another user. The difference can be explained by the traffic. Look, imgur says that the first pic had 2032 views and the 2nd one - 5018. 5018/2032=2.47; 80/52=1.54. The ratio of views is actually greater than the ratio of likes, so one could argue that the first girl is preferred. Or if you don't like this metrics then 52/2032=0.026 and 80/5018=0.016. So 2.6% of viewers liked your "model looking girl" and 1.6% liked your "c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 09:02 PM
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No one is complaining about anything, just calling you out on your BS. Of course this is it, you stopped saying anything except for excuses long long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 06:49 PM
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It isn't, it's just being a logical and not capable of seeing what's valuable. The insults were there regardless of disagreeing. It is possible to disagree without insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 08:37 PM
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Not offering, but begging. Women can offer it since they control it and have it. Men are trying to stand out and attract them. They compute perfectly. Women see that men ask for sex all the time and even from ugly girls. Thus yes, women see that sex is valuable to men. Unless they are dumb or playing dumb and pretend that they don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:38 PM
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Everything I said was thought of, logical and valuable. That's exactly why you couldn't argue with that and instead tried to insult an opponent. We've seen that tactic many times here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 05:35 PM
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Pathetic. Asking for links and ignoring them, wasting time lmao. Of course you should leave, you have nothing valuable to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 10:29 PM
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Not related to this thread and you being full of it and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:42 PM
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Again, I wasn't a person who mentioned any studies. I am saying that you are wasting everyone's time. And that claim is already proven. You can do it, obviously. Here's a link. Once again, different studies about it come up in this sub all the time. Or if you come to argue about partner counts - then you'd do some reading beforehand. Otherwise who are you to argue or claim anything and who are you to prove you anything? Search for partner count (and,say, marriage stability) or something similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:41 PM
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Yes, precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:07 PM
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Hey, that's was an abstract person, not saying that you aren't stem. Also, there's nothing wrong with not being stem. But if you have a stem degree, you should understand what I'm saying. You know precisely that no one would waste time on a person with requests like yours. My claim was that you're wasting everyone's time (I'm not a person who you initially replied to). The evidence to that is in this very sub-thread: when I asked you what you searched for - you dodged or ignore 4 times already. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 09:06 PM
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Yes, just like you admitted in the previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:56 PM
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yes I have demonstrated that you are full of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:08 PM
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No, it's not. Like I will not waste my time proving to you that the electric field is conservative if you didn't even bother to open a textbook. I will argue about it with a physicist or a physics student who at least put some effort into it, not with some liberal arts who walked into a conference after reading about burden of proof on wikipedia and thinks scientists will waste their time on her. Please. You should understand that no one will prove anything to someone who just questions and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 08:07 PM
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And then no, you're wrong and I explained why. In the instance you mentioned, giving insulin to another person is not taking it away from you. Whereas affirmative action is doing exactly that - it's intentionally treating people unfairly and unequally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:57 PM
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Nah you're full of it and you clearly demonstrated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 07:55 PM
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Nope. My only point here, is that you will then deny everything or come up with new and new excuses of why you won't read that study. That is my claim. And that happened hundreds of times here and everyone saw it and knows it. I'm sorry, but I won't prove to a humanities major that there's a square root of a negative number if we are in a place where people are debating about math or studying it. Everyone is expected to come there with a certain level of knowledge already. You gotta do your home…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:49 PM
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Again, there was no exact study mentioned. He said studies, and I found multiple studies. In fact, there was a study linked in this very thread already, too. Tbh, right now you are just confirming my assumptions. Be honest, you didn't even try to look, did you? Otherwise, what's the problem - tell me what you searched for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:55 PM
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you wish, but not until you admit you were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 09:09 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:32 PM
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Not until you admit you were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 08:13 PM
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Not until you admit you were wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 07:28 PM
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Not really, since you still didn't admit that you were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 06:23 PM
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Almost since you still didn't admit to being wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:56 PM
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So what you describe is not corresponding to the title. The correct thing to say is: Cheating is always a cheater's fault. Not only women are cheaters, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:45 PM
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No, because you insulted someone and didn't apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 03:40 PM
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Yes, I do. What you're saying is not what's happening in real life. What feminism stands against us misogyny and often violence This is false. Then why discriminating men? Why quotas, special treatment, affirmative action? Sorry, but the way it looks is that feminism stands for grabbing more and more at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:33 PM
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Again, you're making it all about yourself. AND not even trying to dig. Yes it might be working like this for you. But yes, I'm against acknowledging, because I"m sure you can enjoy sex even if your partner doesn't. For example, receiving oral or whatever else makes you orgasm - him masturbating you or something maybe? no idea. Either way, it's not about just you. And I disagree with your OP. JUST watching a partner enjoy sex doesn't give sexual pleasure. It adds to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:30 PM
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No, I'm trying to understand. And yes a lot of them basically demonstrated the same thing - different sources of different pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:18 PM
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Not really, you did insult someone first and never apologized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:11 PM
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It is, it is. You're just in denial for some reason. Blindfolded, not seeing if your partner enjoys anything, if he goes down on you - you will have an orgasm. Also, it's not about you only, it was always about women in general. Don't be making it all about yourself. And seriously stop being in denial, you aren't even testing your claims. We're trying to understand how it actually works, and you go all like "uh it's just like this".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 08:09 PM
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He did call you out on your bs though and asked you a simple question. The point of that question was to show that you don't really enjoy the fact of pegging itself. You demonstrated it again and again already, that your mental and physical pleasure in this case have two completely different sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:34 PM
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No, it wasn't. It was an explanation why I wouldn't insult you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:31 PM
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No, I wouldn't mentally enjoy it. But I was talking about physical pleasure. For all I know a girl could be faking her enjoyment - unless she's explicitly showing that she doesn't like it, you technically can't know if she does or doesn't. But the nervous endings on a dick will still feel the same. I mean, why even assume? There are tons of men who are having sex with prostitutes right now. Most of them will have an orgasm even though a prostitute doesn't enjoy sex with them in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 06:31 PM
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Nah, cause your reasoning is reeking BS. No wonder another person called you out on it. If you peg because he likes it - then you don't enjoy pegging, you enjoy giving him pleasure. You wouldn't orgasm if you weren't getting your clit rubbed, but you could get it rubbed without pegging at all and still have an orgasm. So pegging is obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:49 PM
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Okay Then you don't enjoy the pegging itself. My logic is flawless, I have degrees to show for it too. The point is - that if you enjoy a sex act, you enjoy it regardless of what's happening on the other side of your genitalia. It might be less hot, cause of course, it's way better if both enjoy it, but it still would be physically and sexually pleasurable. So to continue this - you might as well masturbate without putting a dildo in his ass with your hand. Or - if you didn't masturbate, you'd g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:46 PM
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I did. It doesn't answer any of my questions. It's nonsense and especially applied to pegging. So will you enjoy watching him enjoy sex with another woman? Cause you never said it has to be you. Will you enjoy pegging him if he doesn't enjoy it or if he doesnt' show that he enjoys it too much? IF not - then you don't enjoy pegging, you enjoy his reaction. If yes - then your initial claim is false and it's not intertwined. What about pegging without you getting any stimulation? No grinding on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:27 PM
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In what sense? That one is not possible without another? So if a woman closes her eyes while her partner is doing stuff to her, she won' t have sexual pleasure? pfffft
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:21 PM
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Huh? I can identify as whatever I want every day. If people change that once, then they can do it again. You'll hold me to whatever you want, but you have no business assuming my gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:20 PM
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No hypocrisy here, I require from others the same things as from myself. And of course I wouldn't insult first, which is what you did. So in this case it wasn't a backhanded insult, but just stating the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:04 PM
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How is that trolling? You need to stop being a bigot assuming genders and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:03 PM
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So would you enjoy watching him enjoy sex with somebody else? Or if you were holding that dildo in your hand (so no physical stimulation for you)? No it is very logical and follows from what you said, that your mental and physical pleasure in case of pegging come from two separate sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:02 PM
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What trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:16 PM
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Of course I wouldn't. Why would I insult people I don't even know? I actually have manners and was raised well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:15 PM
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No, I'm not a troll. No idea why you think you can just insult people on the internet simply because you don't see them. And no, doesn't seem that I'm interpreting it wrong. The last paragraph is just a conclusion that follows from what you said. No interpreting here at all. I don't allow myself to interpret things, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:14 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 10:12 PM
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It depends, is he an armpit fetishist? And there you have it. That's why I don't believe you and am not buying it. The way you feel doesn't depend on him. If a girl is not fond of anal sex, a guy's dick will still feel good. I want to fuck my partner who likes getting fucked by a strap on. I like making him happy, I like watching him enjoy sex. And as a bonus, I get to grind my clit against the sex toy that is giving him pleasure, so I get physical pleasure as well as mental pleasure. What is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:00 PM
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I wouldn't have if you didn't start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:58 PM
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Don't remember any multiple conversations with you. Also, if they happened in the past, it doesn't mean I don't identify as a woman today. It's the 21 century, stop being a bigot. Yes, all those things follow from a simple first step, which you still didn't comment on. Is thrusting it into his ass different from doing it into his mouth or armpit?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:35 PM
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Yeah I get it, you're just trying to get away with an insult. To bad it's not a bannable offence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 08:33 PM
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Did you just assume my gender? You get sexual pleasure from what - a vibrator there? Still see no relation between it and pegging a man. It wouldn't make a difference if you put a strapon in his ass or his mouth - you'd feel the same thing physically. Hence - the hole are interchangeable. Moreover, you can slide it under his armpit - same feeling. In fact, and that's where I started, you could use something else entirely. No, the point is that for some reason you enjoy penetrating and dominating…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:56 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:53 PM
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Oh no, I got it, that's the whole point. It wasn't a joke to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 07:46 PM
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Nope, you're trying to come up with excuses. That card "oh it was a joke" won't cut it here, because it definitely wasn't a joke in that context or wouldn't be one by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:35 PM
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The point is that pegging is not sexual pleasure for a woman. Sexual please is a byproduct -yeah you can attack a vibrator and all, but it's not like sex. It's the same as if she took that dildo in her hand and inserted it. It's about her performing actions on somebody. In that sense it's not different than, say, beating that person and seeing how he moans and moves. Or talking to him or whatever (why not, there might be that type of deviant too, who will moan and move to that).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:33 PM
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You can close your eyes and imagine all that. The physical sensation won't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:31 PM
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We already resent each other a lot, that's not a reason to lie. No white lies don't do anything good
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:05 PM
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Yes, the difference is, when you close your eyes and a human fucks you - you will know it's human and will enjoy it and maybe have an orgasm. If they put a wooden stick into you, though - you won't like it. You will feel the difference. It's different physical sensations. You do seriously have to explain how it's applicable to pegging.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:04 PM
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I did succeed, and the evidence is that you started explaining yourself and finding excuses, like it was a joke or whatever. Riiiight. sure it was. No it was obvious what you did, and it wasn't an attempt to be funny. THere are no opinions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:02 PM
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Not really, that's just your fear. Also, we will date anyway, reproduction is our instinct. Again, I'd rather be bitter than get robbed of my right to make choices about my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 08:00 PM
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Feminism seeks equal opportunity and fair treatment: just specifically for women. It focuses on areas where women are oppressed, or suffer more difficulty than men (slut vs stud mentality, for example). Excuse me? What about all those scholarships and conferences that are exclusive for women? Like these. http://www.aps.org/programs/women/index.cfm What about quotas for hiring women? Or quotas for women in director boards? That's obviously special treatment and enforcing the equal outcome, it's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:41 PM
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And that's all good. The problem starts when someone says they are about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:37 PM
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He is right. And there is no competition. Why would you dump a girl who's into threesomes with her SO for a girl who maybe isn't? Staying with the first one means having her and all others. Leaving for a "spark" with the second one could mean having only her. Simple math after this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:24 PM
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Yes they should if she really wants to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:37 PM
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Huh? Yes you can be married to multiple women. Solomon had 700 wives, a lot of others had multiple wives, too. It's more than one dick that's not cool. Group sex with just one dick involved doesn't seem to be not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 11:00 PM
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It's because in this generation some get them without paying. Which man dreams about having a relationship where he gets less than other men get?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 10:27 PM
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You can grind on a hole in a tree, too. You can enjoy a vibrator or dildo pointing the other way while pegging a hole in a tree. You can move your hips in sex motions while doing it to a hole in a tree. What if a partner is not enjoying it? Also you can close your eyes and have the visual pleasure of seeing how much your partner is enjoying it with a hole in a tree. Seriously not seeing how it's pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:55 PM
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No by baggage I mean refusing to try something with a partner or refusing to please a partner because of something in the past. No problem with preferences. So she knows what she prefers doing? great. We'll do that. It's all good as long as it doesn't mean she won't try something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:46 PM
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Not talking about abortions, but about murder. That OB/GYN thing is not related to this thread. It's not what it's about, too. The idea is - doesn't matter how many guys she turned down. It matters, how many she didn't. Think of a goalkeeper. In the end, it doesn't matter how many shots he blocked, what wins or loses the game is how many goals were scored = how many shots he failed to reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:45 PM
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No, you tried to insult period. Not jokingly. You then tried to write it off as a joke after being called out. Also, I didn't try, I called you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:43 PM
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The best course doesn't mean a good outcome is guaranteed. But she at least will try things with you. (and you will make sure she's open to at least trying before marrying of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 08:41 PM
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No by baggage I mean refusing to try something with a partner or refusing to please a partner because of something in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:50 PM
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These claims stem from studies. Where are proofs to your affirmative claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:24 PM
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It's MY shit. Why can anyone be entitled to it? The fruits of my labor are mine to decide what to do with. And don't bring that crap about rights and protections. We are talking about how things should be for it to be fair and just, not how they currently legally are. Not so long ago, there was legal slavery and you owned other people's physical bodies and they had no rights or protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:23 PM
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No it wasn't. You tried to insult me, I called you out on your crap, and you pretended it was a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:20 PM
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Someone does. But it's basic and common for majority of people. Sure you won't make someone do it for you. I wouldn't either. But why wouldn't you go for such person who doesn't like giving pleasure to you. Find someone more compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:19 PM
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She knows how she felt it with her ex. Not how she would in fact feel with a new guy. Either way, no reason for a new guy to go for a girl with more baggage like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:18 PM
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Doesn't matter. IT's about how many dicks she took, not how many dicks she could take. One person murdered 1 baby and the other - 30 but worked in a hospital. The second person is still a worse murderer, even though the first one had less opportunities. And again: It's a bad system and don't use it for anything, it breaks in basic cases. Example. A young girl meets a boy and dates him for a while, then they sleep at some point - they are bf and gf, maybe even talking about marriage, first love, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:17 PM
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Still more credible than just your words. And yes there's more if you wanna look for them. Like this https://www.jstor.org/stable/3600089?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents But you don't wanna look. You say you want credible sources but are just sitting there waiting for others to do homework for you. And that's when there are no sources from you that it's entirely moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:16 PM
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Quotas and scholarships in STEM = women compete for all spots, men compete for less spots than before (and than women). Presumption of guilt in cases where woman accuses a man of something (like rape).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 08:00 PM
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So it's a vibrator that gives you pleasure, not pegging a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 07:53 PM
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How? Isn't it just a plastic thing you put in there? Like, if you closed your eyes - would you know if you're pegging a dude or a hole in a tree?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 07:52 PM
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No not really. There are cited studies showing the risks. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 07:44 PM
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No, that's false. It's a bad system and don't use it for anything, it breaks in basic cases. Example. A young girl meets a boy and dates him for a while, then they sleep at some point - they are bf and gf, maybe even talking about marriage, first love, they are young and naive, maybe he even proposed already.. yet, she slept with 1 man out of 1 man who approached her, so she's a slut? Nonsense. Or your example. A girl slept with 3/7 and sluttier than 12/50, then she went out and 50 more guys app…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:52 PM
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No that's a wrong approach. It's about the absolute number, not relative. If a house has 7 windows and only 3 are broken and another has 50 with 12 broken, it's still more expensive to fix the second one. It doesn't matter how many of them could've been broken. Just how many actually were.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:37 PM
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That's what you're saying now. You can't retroactively make some random BS a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:32 PM
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You can, but this was not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 10:31 PM
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She hated it with the ex, it doesn't mean she'd hate it with a new guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:56 PM
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Why does she hate it? She hates giving him pleasure? Then they shouldn't be together to begin with. Or you think guys go down on girls because they just love it? No, they do it because they love to see their partner convulsing in pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 09:51 PM
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Equality or special treatment - you have to choose one. And if you think that what they said is a real argument here, then don't complain about slut shaming. But mind you, most men on ppd aren't most men :) And yes, even if it's bad it's still somewhat good. And that's what most women I met said too. The process is enjoyable. And that's what numbers show too. At least 60% had ONS (even more - other forms of casual sex) and they keep doing it, even though the orgasm rate is what - 11%?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:17 PM
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I see, thanks. Don't think it's a double standard though. It would be double standard if men cared if a woman has been with some men(or women) but not others. What you said is not double standard. It's just a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:14 PM
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If someone lives in a cave or in a hut - will they survive? Or if someone lives with very little food - will they survive (see concentration camp survivors)? It's not and never was about survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 08:10 PM
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No, it's not the same thing. You got called out on BS and then tried to write it off as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:47 PM
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Again - just because you call something a joke, it doesn't become a joke. You can't retroactively change insults to jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:46 PM
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No you do. If no one is entitled to anyone's body, then why would they be entitled to what's made using those bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 07:45 PM
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That's not related to what I asked at all. If I work and make something or earn money for that - why should anyone be entitled to products of my (body's) labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:52 PM
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You don't need shelter to live. Not something like a modern apartment anyways. And not as much food to survive too. People in german concentration camps ate very little and were looking like walking skeletons but still survived.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:51 PM
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What good reason should other basic needs be human rights? Sex is on the same level of the hierarchy of needs as food or shelter and more basic than, say, education. What good reason shouldn't sex be a human right? I really don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:43 PM
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Avoiding the undesired outcome and/or not desiring some outcome is not insecurity. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:03 PM
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No, something either belongs to a person or not. Those resources are earned by their bodies and those services are provided by their bodies. So what makes you entitled to education or other stuff paid by other people? Not to mention that no one would be forced to have sex with you. The government could just create another job and pay for it, so women would go do it if they wanted those jobs. And if not - then not. The bodily autonomy stays intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 07:02 PM
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How many is a "lot of men"? 3? 13? 30? Depending on who you ask, everyone will have a different answer. Slut has no concrete definition, even a virgin can be considered a slut for kissing a lot of guys. Closer to double digits than to 0. So that would be 5 and above. Or above average numbers (which the average is between 2 and 3 as shown in that CDC survey somebody quoted in another thread), so that would be 3 and above. But no matter how average changes, 5 is the hard cap. No one every dreamed …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:57 PM
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Sex is mentioned indirectly twice in this sentence. It is implied that it's there. Three times if we count sex as a basic need (then it's included in "lack of livelihood" too).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:43 PM
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Are you entitled to other people's services, skills and/or resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:40 PM
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Duh, it's not written there. Other things weren't rights too for a while. Obviously the context here is whether something should be a right. If sex is not a right, then most of hand outs people get aren't rights even more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:37 PM
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Yes, if it is a human right, then it should be the same for men and women. Even in this case, no it doesn't mean taxpayers should fund birth control. Not with the current laws at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:36 PM
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Men like men when they are allies, men don't like other men when they are enemies. When it comes to women, men who want the same (or worse - fucked) the same woman you like are not your allies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 06:21 PM
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Wearing a seatbelt because you want to minimize the odds of getting traumatized in case of the car accident is insecurity too? And the ads that show with graphic images and language what bad things can happen just project insecurities and we should ignore them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:50 PM
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Yeah a slut has a definition - a woman who has (had) sexual contacts with lots of men. Yes, it's negative, so then male sexuality is shamed too. Yeah, an idiot is a derogatory term, but it does have a definition. (just like slut). So if you have a phd, you know you aren't an idiot no matter what they say. And if you have a low partner count, you know you aren't a slut. No, a woman won't be called a slut if she has an active sex life. She can sleep with her husband or boyfriend all she wants. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:48 PM
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Why wouldn't he? If the number is high - then she is. You can't seriously be in love with many men within a short period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:43 PM
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What double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:41 PM
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No, you just didn't joke, you tried to insult, got caught not making sense and then trying to write it off as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:32 PM
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Same applies to men. But they can't even find someone good at sex, because they can't try as many options. Also, no one stops women from asking for reference letters or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:31 PM
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I'm not upset and clearly didn't start as a joke. Read the whole thread again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:30 PM
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It's not shaming, it's just a colloquial term like a stud or virgin or player or fuckboy. If a woman sees it as shameful, then probably she feels she shouldn't be doing that. Not everyone will approve of your choices, but they shouldn't be silenced just cause you don't want to hear what they have to say. p.s. Not all women are sluts, it's not shaming women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 05:30 PM
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So don't be a slut if you don't want to be called one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:49 PM
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Absolutely no reason why they can't get the quality they want. They can have arbitrary standards and those standards will still be met. What? you're saying they need to go through some partners to find good ones? Well, so do men, but they also can't find partners as easily
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:29 PM
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Not really, chads get orders of magnitude more than other men. Women can get way more, too, if they choose to and that's what they want. I mean, there are still people who get what are just fantasies for others - threesomes, anal, whatever else people complain their wives would do with the exes but not with them. So yes, there are people getting cool stuff. And no, it's not about all being 100% of the time good. But for some it's at least something for some periods of time and for others it's "I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:21 PM
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No, it's obvious to everyone smart that there are no different ways. But no surprise you wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:17 PM
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No, roasting is when you are joking and insulting. Just insulting someone and then calling it a joke is not a type of joke. And no there are no different ways of being smart. "Street smart" or whatever is just losers hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:17 PM
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I didn't read your or anyone's flair. I read the comments. No it wasn't a joke and it's not where it all started. And yes, I didn't read your flair and said what I said because I wanted to. So don't be surprised it sounded as you putting words in someone's mouth again, especially in the context of all your other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:16 PM
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Isn't that exactly his point? Most men have to take LTRs to have any sex at all. And do you really think most of men in LTRs get everything sexual they want? I bet they'd like to sleep with other women while keeping their LTR around, maybe have threesomes with other women. But are they doing it? Unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:05 PM
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I got that you were saying I am dumb, that was also obvious. You are the one doing the insulting lol. Good, so? Yes now I am, you started, so there's no reason to not do the same. Not my fault you don't understand that "smart" doesn't have to mean in every single thing. You are trying really really hard to prove that I am "dumb" by making strange changes to the way the word smart is normally used. It isn't working. I'm not trying to prove it. It's obvious to everyone. I'm just pointing it out. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:27 AM
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No, insulting someone and calling it a joke is not a joke. It's what people do when they are caught not making any sense. That's what you did. It wasn't a joke. You are saying it was.. as if you were making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:23 AM
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Because you are. And me not having idea what you are talking about is not related to that fact at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 12:20 AM
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Don't try to back-peddle now lol. Noone is back-pedaling. It's to say you're dumb, not american. And even you speak english. That's a person who can't follow the convo, doesn't see how his personal experience doesn't disprove the date, or who can't follow simple concepts outlined in the thread and won't understand that cheating is cheating and once caught - just goes and tries to insult the opponent. There can be ideas and concepts relating to language, there are ideas and concepts relating to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 07:05 PM
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No, saying crap and then backing off pretending it was a joke is not sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:58 PM
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no idea what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 06:57 PM
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Sexual characteristics. Yes there might be a few men born with anomalities, but close to 100% are born with dicks. A few exceptions do not prove you can't generalize billions at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:55 PM
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Because we're discussing sex here and other similarities don't matter as much as sexual differences. Also: Men and women are almost exactly the same. . I don't understand how you can generalize billions of women and men as all the same.. You gotta pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:52 PM
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No, you aren't smart enough with assumptions, which was proven above. You also aren't good enough with reading comprehension, since I never even assumed you were american. I made a general statement. But then again, you are always putting words in people's mouths. No, ideas and concepts are language-neutral. Language is just a way to express them. And no , street smarts is just hamstering of dumb people, who can't admit they are losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:14 PM
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that has nothing to do with a sense of humor
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:12 PM
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not paying attention to those
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:11 PM
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Yes. But you feel free to stay in denial in your magical unicorn land where people don't sleep around and every guy has only 1 partner at a time. And every guy gets a girl. facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:11 PM
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Which would be enough already - his value in the eyes of peers is lower. But also to other women. There was a study (discussed here a couple months ago) that being with lower value women makes men less attractive to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/17 05:04 PM
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No, smarter in English makes no sense. Smart = ability to operate concepts and ideas, not knowing the language. Even the dumbest americans speak English. Just look at you. And the proofs are plenty. I want obviously link my degrees. This subthread alone is enough. Just re-read it and see how you're debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:26 PM
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And in general case I'm right and you know it. This for every woman who is having casual sex in her early 20s, there is a corresponding man doing the sex to her, is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:23 PM
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No, the difference is that you don't have it at all or so it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:23 PM
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I'm not quoting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:22 PM
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Duh because alphas won't commit/ be exclusive. For betas it's a huge risk to commit to a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:18 PM
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Marrying a slut itself lowers man's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 09:53 PM
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Smarter doesn't imply being good in a language. Sorry you have to find out like that - but there's more than one language out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 09:44 PM
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Because it wasn't, the structure of what you tried to do explained above.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 09:43 PM
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I do what I want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 09:43 PM
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I never said 80/20. I said it's not 1/1. Also, your friends can be shared dudes with other girls that are not in your circle. How would you know they don't, especially if they aren't "exclusive".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 09:42 PM
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lol choosing to stay in denial doesn't even surprise me anymore. Far too common in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 09:42 PM
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for every woman who is having casual sex in her early 20s, there is a corresponding man doing the sex to her, Check your math. It's not 1-to-1 relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:53 PM
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No contradiction. a few flings that's casual sex. that's CC. Not a long ride, but still. So no reason to be surprised someone called it for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:52 PM
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Men are raised to overcome those things. We don't care to have partners to support us or even more so listen to "emotional" whining lol. The most common emotional problem for men is that they can't get laid with multiple women like some other men can. Do we need a partner that's a reminder of that and will actively not let us sleep with others? lol Oh she had threesomes in the past/didn't mind that a guy who fucked her slept with others too? No, she's matured now and not like that anymore. All t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:49 PM
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It's not bad, but most guys don't want to be her last choice after she gave her youth and energy to others, but only settled because of other benefits. We want to be loved and lusted for, too, you know? I really don't understand why you're even asking, OP. Isn't it obvious that it's possible that some men (in this case most) wouldn't like to live knowing that they aren't sexually attractive enough? Like, don't you see that the girl of their dreams is unlikely a girl who was passed around by othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:38 PM
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I'm sorry but your dictionary doesn't cut it, especially considering that they would change definitions left and right. You know exactly where I'm getting my definition from and how this word is used. If you will, you can use your definition in the context that the passive voice applies to women and active to men. p.s. Mind you, that there are more languages than English. Translating the word fuck to those languages will show you the same, I'm sure. I can only speak for one, of course, that is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 08:33 PM
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Don't confuse. Those are jokes. You are just being dumb, then trying to insult when being caught not making sense, then saying it was a joke. No you didn't hurt my feelings. But you did try and it's obvious. So not sure why you're saying you're sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:36 PM
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That you're not one of those some.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:34 PM
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I'm not. You need to stop trying to put word in people mouths, tones in people words and now - moods in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:33 PM
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Now after the last comment I understood. Without that explanation it just seems that you don't know the difference between the sufficient and necessary. (Which tbh you don't, if in your book it was "pretty much" as saying it's all that's needed). But at least we know what you meant now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:33 PM
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No, fuck is fuck = penetrate something. That's why a male can fuck an apple pie or a watermelon or something lol. Have sex with is have sex with and "fuck with" not just "fuck". I mean, that's how it used by most people, idk looks like you didn't know. ANd mind you, there are other languages where this is reflected as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:31 PM
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Not really need that. Just a good amount of girls with no slutty pasts. Which shouldn't be a big deal if girls are encouraged to make choices, instead of being encouraged to sleep around to show them dirty men and fight patriarchy or some other nonsense. Going to church won't suddenly make the culture religious. In fact, in Eastern Europe the religious culture is not strong, the whole region was a part of an atheist country for a while, yet - children there are raised differently. And you have y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 07:29 PM
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No, it has nothing to do with sexuality. It's all about who gets a dick inside. If you use a strapon on your bf, you're absolutely fucking him back, yes. Otherwise - no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:28 PM
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No idea how it's that in your book. And that's not at all what he said, so you shouldn't be surprised some people didn't understand you. They never read your book xd
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:45 PM
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No. And you didn't answer the question. Which is fine, of course you know that I and many others get no benefits from it, on the contrary, we lose a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:44 PM
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Lol no, you can't insult people and then write it down as a joke and being fun. That's like elementary school level. I remember my brother would do it all the time at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:43 PM
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Yes you are. It's clearly seen from the claims you make about other people. And you can bet some of them are more educated than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:42 PM
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The point is, if you don't know something and want to discuss it anyway - then read up on the subject first. You're saying a lot of things that don't make sense. Like, I can understand why they can make sense for you and how you truly want to believe in them, but they just can't withstand a fact check.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:41 PM
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About what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 05:39 PM
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Apex fallacy tho. Most men couldn't even be sluts to be slut-shamed. Those who could, wouldn't be shamed for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 09:09 PM
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what good things do I get? Sounds like nothing I'd want and moreover - sounds like I specifically wouldn't get what I want if promiscuity is encouraged and it's hard to find a good girl who didn't ride or had casual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:24 PM
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Yeah but that's still saying looks are pretty much all you need. That's what you said. And, it's not saying that. You need that and then some. What it was saying is that you needed looks for sure, but not that it's all you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:17 PM
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one more thing to understand, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 11:10 PM
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Let me give you the same advice on how to solve a simple problem in physics. Draw a picture Draw forces Right down equations Solve them. Now show it to some freshman who never took anything but humanities. Very useful? I doubt it. As said above, you need to know exactly WHY steps will work and how they will work and how to vary them for different cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:51 PM
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If you paraphrase, you don't put quotemarks. And no, that wasn't my intent at all. He says he'd do that sort of thing? What sort of thing? That women will "let" him? Sure, that's consensual then. Oh you can think he's guilty all you want, but your opinion isn't worth crap here, unfortunately. Especially here, where a person is rich and famous and it's obvious why they could lie. No evidence - no guilt. I can say that too just for fun or pursuing other interests, and can say it about a person who…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:46 PM
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Somebody needs to understand the difference between necessary and sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:36 PM
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Yet, they did it before commitment so couldn't expect much => they were perfectly fine with the possibility that it won't lead anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:24 PM
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Kindergarden debate club is back in business? Stop embarrassing yourself, you aren't impressing or entertaining anyone with this "tactics". It looks pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:22 PM
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No, you haven't. If you did, you wouldn't say nonsense like above.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:21 PM
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Here. There was a thread discussing this exact topic in detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:20 PM
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Where did I say what you quoted? That's not what I said. And no, Trump never said that either. Some women accused him of something - and if there is no proof, you can't say he is guilty. They have too much of incentive to lie about to take their words without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 10:20 PM
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Lurk more. Yes it would be and it is. 1 out of 17 men reproduced back in the days. Like 5-10% men can perfectly keep all women pregnant at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:50 PM
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Mitt who? Nobody remembers or gives a f. Trump had a real shot of becoming a president and did become one. ANd how is majority of men not getting these accusations equivalent to men getting these accusations being guilty?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:49 PM
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YEah that's why it's surprising that lately I always am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:47 PM
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No, I do. And you're definitely not someone capable of evaluating me, that's one thing you can be 100% sure about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:46 PM
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Ok got it. So if he wasn't rich and famous, he wouldn't be 100 in your system.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:45 PM
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What is a personality score and why would 100/0 make a woman wet and like want to have sex? I can imagine such guy talking her into sex but getting her to actively want it - not so much. Think Cera if he wasn't famous and rich., but is actually like one of his roles lol. Also, your system assumes there's no minimum requirement on the physical score, and that seems wrong too. If someone is absolutely hideous no matter how deep his personality is - a woman won't want to sleep with him. And yeah - …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:33 PM
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But wasn't there a study where 60% women admitted to having ONS? And that's like the extreme form of casual sex, it is safe to say that even more had some type of casual sex at least once. Idk it seems like the 60%+ is a majority, not the women who only have relationships. Unless you of course include little girls or something. Or traditional cultures in eastern countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:30 PM
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No, not every guy is a variation of the same type. Every guy who gets laid consistently is a variation of the same type. A couple of types maybe, but definitely not "a lot of different types of guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:23 PM
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No, I already posted you links before. You ignored one and I had to remind about it 5 times and then you still never admitted you were proven wrong with it, and didn't read the other one. Do your own homework. You're no one to bother proving anything to you and you do not act like you care in finding out the truth, so all it is is pointing out you being wrong to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:21 PM
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^ my point proven completely. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:19 PM
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It still needed bodily resources in the past, since those nurses fed it anyway (far past, when there were no bottles). Now yes, they have different mixes which arguably took people to invent and produce though which in turn took bodily resources, but ok I guess you only want to take as many steps as it's convenient for your point of view. Anyways, very soon embryos will be able to be grown outside of female body. Already they can survive for a couple of weeks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:19 PM
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Oh what a coincidence, they come forward around election and he appears to be rich and famous. It's almost as if they could have other incentives. No no, that must be crazy talk. Presumption of guilt is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 09:15 PM
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What about a baby and breastfeeding?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:39 PM
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facepalm. Kinder garden debate club president in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:25 PM
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No, not a lot. They are all variations of the same type. Lurk more. It's been discussed already in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:25 PM
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No. It's pointless with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 07:24 PM
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Makes very little sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:55 PM
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It was worded well. You're saying they aren't attracted to the same guys, yet it's the same type of guys who gets laid and the same (but another) type of guys that doesn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:54 PM
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Pretty sure you didn't see the DNA tests, but then again - it doesn't matter. There's more data out there. I heard about the same studies in other schools, they all show the same about stem having way less sex than others. 15-20 is not pretty close to even a 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:53 PM
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Not all girls are attracted to the same thing. Yet, it's mostly the same thing that is getting laid and mostly the same that isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:35 PM
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And if he'd say you can sleep with others, it wouldn't be cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:34 PM
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No. I Didn't ignore them. You said the number of people who you know have families. That's not what I asked and not what the thread was about. ANd yes you can extrapolate it to entire industry and no old guys don't count because the whole thing was about college years. If you want to include older guys, then you wouldn't talk about virginity (which you still can do and I'm 100% sure you will see that stem has more virgins than others), but you can talk about about numbers of new partners per uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:32 PM
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Exactly, and in this thread there was nothign about any discussion where you're allowed to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:23 PM
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Yet, it's mostly the same thing that is getting laid and mostly the same that isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:21 PM
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You do think so. We had this conversation in another topic and that's exactly what you said - that monogamy is still implied. Doesn't matter. DOn't focus on this one, you still didn't answer about the number in another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:11 PM
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It's not about gender equality tho. It's "focused on women's issues". It's like I have a banana and you have an apple, give me an apple and then we both have an apple and it'll be equal. Nope. BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:06 PM
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Cheating for you is still wrong if it'd had to happen. Cheating is cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:50 PM
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No I don't expect that. But you also shouldn't expect that a few people you know say anything about the majority. Anyway - what is the number of men whose sex lives you know about? Asking for the 4th time. Not almost all people have a shitty sex life. Almost all girls have it as good as they want + the guys who they sleep with. Also, it's not just about teens, it's also about young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:38 PM
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No says they stay virgins forever, what are you talking about? It's all about young years teens and early-mid 20s. Just showing a point that their sex life sucks. And no, being married and having kids doesn't say anything. The kids could be adopted or from the previous marriage or it can be "an open marriage" where she sleeps around and he doesn't get any. Technically, marriage alone doesn't say much. But then again, you still didn't answer the question. I'm asking for the 3rd time: How many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:23 PM
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No there was. Cheating to get back at him or for whatever reason was wrong. The question is arguably wrong. But no, it's just weird. If you don't like it or think it's too specific - just don't answer it. The OP set the rules and wanted to hear answers. Nothing wrong with that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:11 PM
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I'll repeat. How many men's sex lives details you knew about? Say a number. Also, having kids doesn't mean they're his or that they are having sex at all. And don't forget, that no one said they stay virgins forever, so you would need to know that they never had troubles getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:35 PM
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ok now this is totally your choice and has nothing wrong with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:33 PM
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Of course you didn't know everyone. Knowing their names doesn't mean you know about their sex lives. And don't lie that absolutely every guy told you about his sex life - which even then you wouldn't know if it's true. Besides, "your degree" is not just your class. It's 5 or whatever classes (different years when they started). How many men's sex lives details did you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:07 PM
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no original did say one of them cheated. Well, had more than 1 wife. I guess yeah, it's not cheating if both parties know about it and it's officially allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 09:04 PM
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Anything closer to double digits than to 0 is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:49 PM
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The point of that was to compare majors then. And yes, either way, those studies can't say anything about one particular school. Your school can show something different even if the majority are virgins overall. But then again. you in fact don't know the statistics about your school. You only know what a few people told you. Not everyone, and I bet not even the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:45 PM
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Nowhere in the original he also said you are allowed to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:42 PM
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No, he's a new buyer. The product is old, another buyer took it and returned it. What you're saying is like saying that people can sell their used cars with mileage for the price of new cars because it's new product to their buyer as in he didn't drive any miles yet. What a nonsense. No I rarely ask it on the first date, I don't have first dates often. But if we hook up and lay in the bed after, yeah, the talk about it will happen very soon. Probably after the first time, yes. No reason to wait …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:42 PM
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You don't have to do anything you don't want. But if you wanted to get fucked by a guy after a couple of drinks but require more than that from another guy, don't be surprised that another guy won't be happy with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 08:13 PM
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Lol what? How is it a new product? Do girls have the way to un-take all those dicks they had inside?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:39 PM
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She could learn it without having ONS to begin with. It's all over media and surely parents told her. And definitely not a few ONS. Also, I don't think you interpret it correctly. It's not anger because she had different standards. It's not anger directed at her, too, btw. It's anger that you can't tell this woman is giving you her sexual best and is attracted to you more than to anyone else. It's not a girl of your dreams and not what you've been hoping to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:37 PM
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Yeah, there are other stigmas now for not being able to make a lot of money - cause that makes you unsuccessful and a loser. The role of husband was always voluntary. Who cared about stigmas if they left to travel the world and tend a bar in another country somewhere? But either way, what you described is not good for men who are not in top few %. Before they at least had an option to get a woman because a woman needed them for support or whatever. Now nobody needs them or wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:18 PM
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lol he's weird then. Why call the thread monogamy vs polygamy then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:07 PM
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I think you bought it. Your sample is just a small non-representative sample. The studies are talking about tech in general. No shit they don't relate to every single place? You mean, like statistics or the theory of probability can't predict the outcome of a particular dice throw? Of course they don't. They describe the majority, not your place and your circle of friends, which is biased by definition. Who's to say, that virgins aren't just invisible to you and you happen to connect better with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 07:06 PM
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How does it free men from that role? They are still expected to do it and can't be stay at home husbands. They always could travel the world and tend bars if they wanted to. Now on the other hand, sex and getting sex is a strong motivator so if a man isn't born with great genes - he has to earn a lot to get something from a woman he'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:55 PM
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Biology determines whether someone is a person't father. The law determines what obligations come along with that. The law can say a man doesn't have any obligations to his child, but it cannot make him not the father if he is (and it cannot make him the father if he isn't) because that is a biological fact. Yes, biology is fair. The law isn't and that's what I'm discussing and what OP was discussing. Because the law gives all power to woman and protects her advantages while making man's advanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:51 PM
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They might do that, yes. How is it unrelated? Read again.You're saying oh if she had a ONS in the past it doesn't mean she's aggressive. Yes it doesn't. What it means is that she was attractive enough to the guy she had a ONS with to have it. It's all about the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:40 PM
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This is a simple disagreement about economics. I feel that the fair solution is for the amount they are responsible for should be based on what they can afford, and you don't. It's not about "punishing" anyone and I resent the accusation. It is punishing the higher earner. Also, in this scenario they BOTH can afford paying $750, the one who earns more just has more left. But none of them will starve to death or anything like that. So why wouldn't they pay equally? What happened to equality? I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:38 PM
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They can have positive effect, I'm not arguing with that. I'd consider a woman who didn't have a bunch of dicks and she would have a very positive effect, that's true. But the one I feel disgusted with? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:35 PM
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No, you wouldn't be allowed. Read the OP again. You simply have choice between two options. You can always choose the other one if you don't want him to sleep with others. But no you wouldn't be allowed to sleep with other either way. Think of a muslim country or something. You do it - you get stoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:34 PM
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It doesn't matter what seems logical and what either of us thinks. If you really work in tech and have a tech diploma (not there as HR or something), then you should understand that your sample is nothing compared to those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 06:26 PM
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Just because a woman has had a ONS in the past doesn't mean she's aggressive to the point where if an attractive man asks her to dinner, she's going to try and skip straight to fucking instead. It's not that the man "isn't allowed to", but that sex isn't the top priority for either person - the date itself is. Yes it usually does. You really don't believe that it's the same woman that will be like "oh you didn't behave so no sex tonight - go sleep on the couch"? If she ever makes you work for wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:39 PM
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The woman carries the child, therefore she can choose what happens to it. The man doesn't so his choice ends at conception. That's what I mean by biology being unfair: The man has no inherent biological right to determine the fate of the fetus because it isn't inside his body, so why would that "right" exist in the law? Therefore, the fetus or the woman has no biological right to demand the man's support them. No, not the right to determine the fate - but the right to no support it since he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:33 PM
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Biology defines what a "parent" is. I never said it is the basis of everything, but your claim that the father of a child isn't necessarily the father is just ridiculous. It's not. Biology defines whose DNA a child has, not who has to raise it. The system isn't perfect. Ideally, I think there should be a set amount and each parent is responsible for an equal percentage of their income until that is reached. So hypothetically if the amount the child needs is $1500 a month, and one parent makes $5…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:24 PM
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I didn't say that was biology, I said biology is what makes him the "father". So? And the law is what makes him to pay. And can make him a father or make it so that he's not a father. Should we base how things should be on biology or not? I thought you meant yes, insisting on biology making someone a father. But then what does it have to do with supporting children? Biology doesn't make men do that. There are two fathers - the one who gives sperm and the one who raises a child. They aren't usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:19 PM
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You can get to know her after fucking. ANd sure, if she tried to throw herself at him but he said - "no let's have dinner", then yes it's all good. She did show intentions of fucking. But if others fucked her just like that but this one isn't allowed to... Yeah, it's a bb. And WTF? Where did I ever saying anything remotely close to attractive men not having dinners? Also, why do you think attractive men can't be bb?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:12 PM
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I don't need a woman to feel alive or bring out the best in me. I feel alive by myself just fine. The desirable outcome is to not be fucked over in a deal - not pay full priced for something others used for free. Not be someone's plan B who decided to "explore herself" instead of exploring books and doing homework or something else useful and most definitely not be someone's #38 or something. How special is her "exclusivity" or commitment or sexuality to me if so many others got it? Nah, that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:10 PM
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Thats because men are more likely to have actually done the crime. Facepalm. He just told you, taking a man who has done the crime and woman who has done the same crime with a lot of the same other details, he will get a harsher punishment. It has nothing to do with who is more likely to do the crime. All the people in question did do their crimes and were called guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 09:03 PM
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No, it's not about my insecurities. Wanting to have the desirable outcome is not insecurity. I know what I want and how I want to see myself. And what type of behavior I want to encourage, too. And what type of behavior I don't want to encourage and be a part of people's (who indulge in such behaviors) life plans or contribute to their happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:53 PM
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google rollo smv curve. it's not "So will her husbands" blah. Sexes don't follow exactly the same laws. And her husband will be around or higher than her SMV as he ages. She gets to gain a lot - companionships, comfort etc. Socially accepted way of having a family. It's really weird you're even asking this. Are you saying most women don't want to have a family? Anyways, this is being discussed in the neighbor topic about men paying. Read it, there are other women saying what gain from being with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:48 PM
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But it's not about higher "goals". If she liked him enough, she would've wanted to have sex and would push for it. If she had sex "for free" with another men in the past but goes to a dinner with this one? Yeah, he's right. Sounds very BB. And considering that 60% admitted to having at least one ONS (not even mentioning other forms of casual sex... that was in another thread here), it's pretty safe to say that what he said makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:40 PM
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What to think about here? Didn't she say the vow? Wtf is wrong with people these days, that they don't want to be responsible for their words. No one forced her to say vows and commit to marriage through "thick and thin" and "til death do us part". So no, not grounds for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:30 PM
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Um...that's not biology. Yes it is. He provides sperm and then keeps going. What's not biology is any form of "obligations" or "support" that he (or she) is forced to pay. That's pure law. In my opinion, yes, you should. OK. Then a nonrhetorical question - are feminists who claim to be for equality, fighting for that to be implemented(because I haven't seen examples, but I assume you are a feminist so you should know)? And if not - then do you see how hypocrite they are and how can you identify …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:17 PM
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Biology is unfair. Biology is fair. The law is unfair. According to biology, if that's what you're gonna take as a main instance, a man can leave the child with mother and never come back. How come a woman's biological "right" and "power" are reflected in the law and man's aren't? Are you supporting this or equality? No, it doesn't. Child support goes to whoever is taking care of the child to be used for the child. If the father has the child the mother pays support. If a grandparent takes the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:09 PM
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That's not how biology works. So now we only talk about biology? Then what legal obligations are you talking about? That's not how biology works.. Because he has an obligation to support his child, just like she does. Her support can be enough and if she has custody then why'd he support? What about the cases where he pays more support than what she spends? Also, why is that support based on his income and not a flat value enough for a child? You really really really believe that the system is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 08:04 PM
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That's not approaching differently. You're saying that a trend can't predict anything about a specific woman. But that's irrelevant to what you said that it's a male projection and sex doesn't affect bonding. In general it does, which you can read about. For example, the link above.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:54 PM
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No, he's no one to the child, because he had no say in whether the child will be born. She might as well have had a sperm donor or sleep with a guy whom she won't see again. It's her responsibility then. You still didn't answer anything I asked. What if she can afford raising a child if she cuts her expenses (or even if she doesn't), then why should a father pay? What about the case, where she cheated and got pregnant by another man and a "father" only found out later? Yes, it's the law. But thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:50 PM
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Yes there's. The reasons you only see ones about women are: 1. you're only seeing them because they are linked here and that's what people are talking about here. If you do your own research you will find both. 2. They don't have such interesting correlations like women's, that's why only the part about women is published and it just mentions that "no such correlations" was found for men or "correlation is not as strong" blahblah. Depending on what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:46 PM
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I don't care about causation in this case. Correlation is more than enough. That's the case where causation is not and can not be defined. Not to mention that high n count itself without any other qualities it can correlate with is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:44 PM
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why would she trap herself in a sexless marriage with someone below her SMV? Why do you think her SMV doesn't drop when she's older? We don't need to get married anymore, so why would she waste her time and money on a marriage she doesn't want? You are so young and naive. Just for your own good, don't give up to feminist propaganda and don't turn this into "strong independent slut" because that's "empowering" and "your body your choice". You WILL regret it, I promise. And yes, the paragraph is l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:42 PM
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If he contributed the sperm that made the child, he's the father. That's basic biology. No, he's a sperm donor. If you wanna talk about basic biology, then a father chooses whether to support a child and can't be forced to. It's up to a mother to make sure she's nice and aren't sleeping around so he can't question who contributed the sperm. AND if they "divorce" - they divorce. For the evolution's and natural selection's sake, no, children shouldn't get support from fathers if mothers can't choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:39 PM
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Yes, and when he was a child (until he legally came of age and had to start taking care of himself), his father was obligated to support him. It's not like this is a new concept. And keep protecting his rights now and dont' force him to pay for something he can't be responsible for. Because he can't have a say in whether a child will be born, while a woman can. Children have the right to demand care from their parents because they are incapable of caring for themselves. They have two parents, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:36 PM
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That's not his child, it's hers. If she's the only one who decides its fate. She and her family can take care of it. Also, you didn't answer. What if she has enough money for her child without his support? Why should he pay then? Then it's obligation to her, not to the child, because it's done in order to compensate her expenses. Please explain why you believe a parent shouldn't have an obligation to care for their offspring. He's not a parent, she is. It shouldn't work that way, that she has al…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:32 PM
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In a hypothetical where you aren't allowed to leave, nothing changed about you having to keep acting according to the promise you made. No one forced you to. So, when I say I would cheat, it is because it would look that way only because I am not allowed to leave. That's hamstering. You cheat because you want to cheat. Whether you're allowed to leave or not, if you said you won't cheat - you shouldn't. No one forced you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:29 PM
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one school does not equal all of the tech world Exactly, that's why - no, the majority of people you saw in your school are. The majority in all schools are virgins as you can see in the provided link.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:27 PM
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but also a few really amazing ones. no. just more poisoned ones. There's way more amazing ones in the bowl with small n-counts. Sluttiness is not something to be amazed about. My point is that you'd rather rely on her n-count instead of just listening to her for an hour and doing some activities with her. Just get a read on her and you will see if she crazy, so why use an unreliable factor? It's way more reliable than intuition. As if girls never pretended or couldn't hide some of their qualitie…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 07:25 PM
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Incorrect. No different premises. There's only 1 question - does the number of sexual partners affect bonding. Studies seem to show it does. But you choose to close your eyes and not look.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:29 PM
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If you know that there are poisoned skittles in the bag, will you take and eat some? Didn't think so. You can spend time doing chemical tests and such to make sure it's not poisoned, or you can just take another bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:28 PM
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Causation and fault both matter lolwhat? Why? Do I care that she has a high N count because she's a psycho(for example) or she's a psycho because she has a high N count? I just should avoid her either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:09 PM
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It's not TRP arguing that. Studies show something like that. In fact, men are slightly more able to sustain LTR or marriage the higher the count iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:07 PM
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It doesn't matter. Not arguing about semantics. You still didn't answer none of my questions. Then why give money instead of buying stuff for them? Or not require her provide all receipts and stuff to make sure all money was spent on a child? Why not a flat amount of money? If a father is a millionaire they'll make him pay more. Why? There should be a calculated amount that is enough for a child to survive, and that's what men should pay regardless of their income. if a mother can afford to supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 09:04 PM
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That doesn't make it their right. Also, they already have an adult - their mother who chose to give birth. You still didn't answer the first question. Why should a father be punished? She's single and chose to have a baby. She can pay for it herself - and her family can help her as they are her family. A "father" is no one to her. Also - what if she can afford raising a child if she cuts her expenses (or even if she doesn't), then why should a father pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:51 PM
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It's like, I can disagree that the earth is not flat, but why would I hurry with that and not do research and read? Just no idea why you choose not to know how it actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:49 PM
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What does it have to do with what I asked? also, if a mother can afford to support a child by herself but a father still pays support, then yes- it's the money for the parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:47 PM
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Then why give money instead of buying stuff for them? Or not require her provide all receipts and stuff to make sure all money was spent on a child? Also, why not a flat amount of money? If a father is a millionaire they'll make him pay more. Why? There should be a calculated amount that is enough for a child to survive, and that's what men should pay regardless of their income. But that's not really what we see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:44 PM
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Paternity tests don't mean shit. He might just happen to be a "father". If she was sleeping around but happened to get pregnant by him and not others, it doesn't mean he owes her anything. What if it was a gangbang, who's a father then? Her body her choice and all. Not even talking about the legal side of paternity tests, and how you can't use them even if they show you're not a dad, if you took them without her consent or too late (3 years or something before the child is "yours" forever?).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:37 PM
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Why shouldn't it? If a father can't have a say in whether to abort or have a child, then it's not his child. It's her child. He just happened to be a sperm donor (who happened to "win", because she could be sleeping with multiple men. which btw, what if she got pregnant after being fucked by N men at the same time?).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:33 PM
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And if a father doesn't make this decision then why should he be punished? A father is someone's child too, btw, if you're trying to make emphasis on child's "rights". Or to be blunt, why would a child have more rights than an adult who actually contributed and is still contributing to the society (unlike a child).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:28 PM
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But then doesn't the man consent to the possibility of pregnancy by sheer virtue of having sex? Not really. if for example she said she was on pills and lied - then what? Also, to be fair, he's not the one getting pregnant, so... Consenting to the possibility of her pregnancy doesn't mean he consented to having a baby with her. He might just not mind that she wants to be a single mom. Also, she has a choice to keep a baby or abort it. So in a way he consents to her choosing either of the two. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:18 PM
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More and more, yet the majority of older people don't want that. No it's worth it for a guy. But obviously a woman pretend the attraction is there more often than not. The dead bedroom usually happens after the marriage, before marriage everything is fine and how would a guy know it will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:30 PM
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Yes they might project. But that doesn't change the fact that they happen to be right in this one question. Even if they didn't mean to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:28 PM
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The vow was already broken, I would no longer have to be loyal to that person. Q.E.D. But that's not what you were trying to say here. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5k25yv/cmv_the_socalled_alphas_women_may_date_in_their/ddr03gf/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:14 PM
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Yes, if you are trying to say that the fact that the majority of guys you know aren't virgins is somehow falsifying the general trend that he linked, then you are committing a biased sample fallacy. And if you just mention it to share your feelings, then well stop doing that. It came across as you trying to say that what he said is not true because you see different guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:12 PM
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. I have no reason to sleep with someone who cheats on me. It is disrespectful. Absolutely. But you also have no reason to cheat on whoever you promised not to cheat on, right? Because didn't you say that it was oh so bad in another thread? Yes you did. You can just not have sex if you don't want to. But cheating is breaking your own vow/promise, which I'm pretty sure didn't end with the words "unless you cheat".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:00 PM
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Once again, just google and you find a lot about the topic. Like http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-445X.2000.tb00014.x/full - random link I got just googling. You are arguing either just for the sake of arguing, or because you're hamstering and can't let yourself admit that slutting around can have a negative effect on anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:58 PM
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Yes, and I explained to you why you observed it. You both are right, but what he said is more general and is more credible than what you said, because the sample is bigger, and it actually has some numbers etc. Yours is just "oh I know some people". What you said is biased. Of course you don't know virgins. That's the whole point that they are mostly invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:55 PM
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Duh. That's irrelevant to this sub-thread,though. But yes, men need to realize that. Their parents should teach them, media should show that etc. Yes we tend to be less attractive in STEM. Well, guess what, if you want to be really good at it, you need to spend a lot of time practicing it. No surprise here, though. And unlike some other jobs, this one doesn't go along with the active lifestyle, like, idk, a lifeguard or something. But you need to realize one thing too. Women are and will be coer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 05:54 PM
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Risk of cuckoldry is real and not just projection. And on top of that, yes, it is special for men if a woman didn't give it to other men and wasn't easy for anyone. That's not related to cuckoldry etc. It's more like wanting something exclusive and applies not only to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:34 PM
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Well they are not fake, oxytocin and stuff is released, and it gets old at some point. I won't look for the link, you can google it yourself. but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:13 PM
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I am a scientist. And I did ask scientists about this particular subject, too. You are wrong. The actual sad thing is that you're so ignorant and can't admit it :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:11 PM
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Because that's how they are raised. But anyways, the topic was a little more general. It's not about matching cloths, it's about life paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:02 PM
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You are by all means should not have sex with them if you don't love them anymore. But cheating is a whole different thing. It sounds like "oh you did/didn't do that? Then I'll cheat". Also, not sure why you think that in this scenario your partner doesn't respect your polygynous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 10:00 PM
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Your "observation" and how it doesn't change the fact that he was right is explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:59 PM
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There. You said there was no way I could possibly know if a guy enjoyed them (wrong), said pretty much everything else is better (to you). You also think it is ghetto to give someone a handjob in the car. So clearly you don't understand that people can have different preferences than you and could possibly, actually, find handjobs very enjoyable, enough so that they sometimes ask or hint at one. That's a definition of ghetto. And once again, I didn't say : u siad you think handjobs are a waste a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:58 PM
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No, both of us described the classic sexual vs natural selection argument. Then the peacock example. I'm sure now you have no idea what you're talking about. No actual scientist would use a wikipedia definition and say that it's standard. Not to mention that you didn't recognize that we both were talking about natural selection vs sexual. You are the one who needs to get your stuff together here. Go read an actual book. lmao, standard definition, from wikipedia. Can you believe this guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:26 PM
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But it didn't look like that at all from this line of replies. Also, I replied to that comment with "line of men". You do have it. On any dating app or site. Create an account there and choose whoever you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:23 PM
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You should specify the steps then. If you mean steps like getting in shape and such - yes they will work. As I said - and that was my focus - the steps where the contact with other men is implied won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:22 PM
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I'm not attacking you. I'm answering your question. Mean girls don't get a line of men. Shy girls and nice (=sweet) girls do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:19 PM
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No, he had a point. He was arguing sexual vs natural selection. You are the one arguing semantics. Also being annoyed doesn't give you the right or excuse to talk like that. Especially the fact that you "got annoyed" after only one comment. So no. You probably took biology I in your freshman year and wanted to feel superior because you think you know it all now. That's how it looks at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:17 PM
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I'm glad that you date a cuck who still wanted to stay together after you started cheating. As I said, almost no self-respecting man will sign up for that. I promise you, that most likely you will break up with that men "put in the situation later" (or already did) and it will be because of that "dread" even though he won't tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:15 PM
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Lol that string of replies+ "where's my line of men". So turns out - and you proved it yourself - that guys don't actually go for mean bitchy girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:13 PM
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Any dating app or site.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:12 PM
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LOL that is exactly what he said. Every single sentence. So the point is, why would a man work towards being a provider, when instead he can work towards being hot. Like, why would I spend all this time to get a PhD which I thought would make me cool, if instead I could've spent this time going to the gym and having some active job to make and keep me hot? But a lot of men understand it too late, deep into a PhD or already being old and they don't have many options. And that's another thing. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:07 PM
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Women would much rather marry the hot poor guy than the ugly provider. Soo yeah, play by the same rules as women. You can't expect women above your SMV to want you because you're in a STEM field. Answers OP right from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:04 PM
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Lots of stories around of guys finding past messages, vids, hearing from friends etc, about their SO's previous escapades. Someone should be collecting them all in one place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 09:00 PM
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And yet someone will marry those girls who would come over. And you bet their husbands won't get their sexual best, and won't even know they had FFM threesomes in the past. Because she's not like that anymore and apparently sexual best, FFM threesomes, anal etc are for guys she doesn't care about, but when she loves him, they are off the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:55 PM
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Therefore it is special for men. More precisely, it is special if other men aren't able to get sex from a woman in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:47 PM
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Yeah sex does lead to bonding. Search something like "bonding hormone" and you'll see. And it makes sense that studies show that the number of sexual partners correlates with a lot of bad stuff including divorces. Just because getting sex is easy doesn't mean it's more special. If others got it easy, that makes it less special for a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:45 PM
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It does reduce it's value though. Why'd you want to buy a cow if others got its milk for free? The reason why you hear that men prefer good girls is because they want to feel special in the sense that they got something others couldn't get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:42 PM
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define bad. I don't think I'm bad, yet commitment without sex is friendship, basically. It's pointless in a sexual relationship such as marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:40 PM
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Well, that doesn't change the fact how men are. You would need to be a man to understand. You would also understand if you listened. But apparently you just disagree with whatever you don't want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:36 PM
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No, there's not. For example, peacocks and their tails. They select for them because they attract attention. It's a trait needed for males to get laid, not for species to survive. It's not just semantics, it is indeed different. Evolutionary purpose is if traits were needed for individuals to survive, sexual selection involves traits that don't have such purpose and are selected for just for the sake of being selected for. There's no pressure on a species to have those traits. Only on males to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:35 PM
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It doesn't matter. It's just a detail. If she had any form of casual sex, you can imagine it was there - doesn't matter. It's still gross that someone got it easy and you have to put more effort and give up trying other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:23 PM
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No you read what he said. He said Sexual selection is not evolutionary. And he's right. It doesn't mean it's not an evolutionary process. It is in the sense that those traits are passed on in next generation as well as preference for them. But it's not evolutionary in the sense that there's no evolutionary reason for those traits to be selected to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:21 PM
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Western men don't have because it's not legal. Women don't fuck anyone, pegging is not that widespread, they can get fucked by others, okay. But those others are still within that 1%, so nothing changed. Also, a not-faithful harem is still a harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:19 PM
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No, this is incorrect and I"m not a redpill man. Men are looking for a woman who loves them and want to love such woman. If she's seeing other men, then she doesn't and there's no need to stick around, because she's not a girl of his dreams in this case. They will stick around "for kids" if they are married, but more often than not, attempt to dread in a relationship will lead to a break up, I guarantee that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:11 PM
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Why should a man be punished for her cheating in case it leads to divorce? And yes, it is very great of an issue for lots of men. Either way, you're moving goalposts now. The thing about 1% men having harems is true, even if those harems aren't 100% faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:09 PM
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No he's right. Natural selection is one thing. Sexual selection is a bit different. It can happen for traits that are not needed or no longer needed for survival. For example, peacocks and their tails. They aren't needed for survival of the species, but the brighter they are the more attracted females are, so those genes are passed on. But it doesn't follow from evolution. Moreover, those tails are harmful for survival because they attract predators as well, while peacocks can recreate without t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 08:07 PM
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So most guys you knew where not virgins and you knew few guys who were, even though they are the majority otherwise. How is that contradictory to what he said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:53 PM
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No. Same happens in eastern europe, at least during the school time - up to mid 20s. And then later that lack of experience doesn't help too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:50 PM
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In our society no rich alphas have multiple wives, if by our society you mean West. If you mean humankind in the 21 century, then yes, 1% rich alphas have harems in muslim countries. And yes they might get cucked, it's a risk every man takes even in monogamous relationships, but if she gets caught she will be dead and it will be legal. See, at least they have that. Men in monogamous relationship risk getting cucked, but they don't have multiple wives, their wives won't be punished if cheat, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:49 PM
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So they are sleeping around with other rich alphas? That still means that 1% men are getting a harem. They actually don't, because the women sleep around and are not faithful to just one 'alpha', so no alpha has monopoly over the sexuality of the women he sleeps with. Yeah no, as societies where multiple wives are legal show, they don't sleep around. If they sleep around that's considered cheating and they get stoned for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:43 PM
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So you need reasons not to cheat? It's not something you would do or would never do, but you only won't cheat if a man does something to prevent you from cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:40 PM
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No it doesn't. It has the opposite effect after a certain step. No self-respecting man will be okay with her talking to others or possibly seeing others. Preselection might work on women. Women might want to fight for a man if they think he's seeing somebody else. For most men, however, those things are huge turn offs. Another dick in the picture? Bye. Maybe not coldblooded bye, and he'll be hurt and all, but he won't pursue he as an LTR option anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:34 PM
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I am in my early 20's, and after graduating high school, the guy had to be on some kind of stable career path. And that hasn't changed. You don't need to be rich. Just make a decent income. $40k plus. I make significantly more than $40k so I am not asking for a lot. More if you want kids, though. No one would call that gold digging. Then again, if you don't require bank statements from men you hook up with, but require it from this man, don't be surprised he won't be ok with that. BUT you are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:31 PM
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Men do it too. Irrelevant. You want a man with a stable job: "you're a gold digger" Yes, because you probably didn't require that from a guy you dated when you were hotter and younger. Also, you're supposed to love him for who he is, not for what he does for you. Just like he is looking for a girl he will love just cause. You want to marry when you are over 25: "you just want to ride the cock carousel" Wrong and misleading. No one will say that if you are in an LTR and is just waiting until your…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:55 PM
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Okay so it is still a double standard, but why should "less women want to have casual sex" logically lead to "women shouldn't be allowed to sleep around"? No, how is this a double standard? Double standard would be if you don't judge one group of women for sleeping around but judge another group of women for something you don't judge the first group for. Eh, why would it lead to that? The latter standard was in place long long before the former statement. Also, they are allowed to sleep around. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:41 PM
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No, that's not "just like". In case of casual sex they both want sex and both get it. In your scenario he wants sex and she wants dinner and only one of them gets what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:37 PM
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No I have no solipsism. You are comparing incomparable things, that's all. He wants sex and he wants you. Ideally - both at the same time, if that's not possible - then separately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:34 PM
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lol. You need to read on Occam's razor and russel's teapot. If I'm unlikely to meet them - then why even say that they exist? Either way, you were wrong saying "almost never". That's not true. For all we know, almost every girl in a dating pool did have casual sex. The girls we'll never meet aren't in that pool to begin with, moreover we can't even falsify or confirm their existence if we can't meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:32 PM
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Ok to put it another way because your hamster is spinning. You siad you think handjobs are a waste and you assumed that non of the guys I know have enjoyed them, so clearly you don't understand that people can have different preferences when it comes to what is enjoyable in sex. No, show me the exact words where I said that. That's not what I said. You do. You have the burden of proof. That is how it works. I admit you have posted a source but since it will not open in my browser i can not actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:29 PM
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So if you can't find them in usual place that means it's almost impossible to find them. If they just sit at home then there's no difference if they exist or not. But you're right, there are other social things other than bars etc. It's not like you meet them that often anyway. Seems like the only way to meet one is to be introduced by a friend/family member. Either way, that "almost never" part is wrong. Plenty is not a majority and not a majority of who we meet. Because if you don't meet them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:24 PM
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This leads to a double standard where guys sleeping around is accepted because it's just in their nature, but it's assumed that women that sleep around are going against their nature and therefore must be broken in some way and therefore must be shamed and socially excluded for being abnormal. How are these double standards? They are different standards for men and for women, because men and women are different. If I say a standard for bikes is to have 2 wheels and for cars is to have 4 - these …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:20 PM
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Right...sure...because tone can't come across via text /s No in this case it can't, because there is no tone. To show that you don't know everything about sex if you think handjobs are automatically not worth it and "no different than masturbation" This is bullshit and there's no causation or correlation between two things. Have you ever operated a nuclear reactor? That doesn't mean you don't know nuclear physics. You didn't back up any of yours, so why would I? You are the one making the claim.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:29 PM
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It's not a competition between him and her. How is that relevant? She wants it too, otherwise she wouldn't have it. You dinner thing is not similar to this at all, because he doesn't want to just pay for her obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:22 PM
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That doesn't really disprove what I said at all. Good for you and your friends and for yall's SOs. But are you really arguing that there aren't so many girls on tinder and such, bars, clubs, who are hooking up with guys they aren't in LTR with? Or girls who do short "relationships", or girls who have FBs? come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:19 PM
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What do you mean, what double standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:16 PM
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He wants sex more than he wants you. Wut? There are two independent axes with different units and his desire is a function of two. You can't compare quantities with different units, too. Is 2 meters longer than 5 kelvin? No idea what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:12 PM
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How is that similar? In his scenario a woman wants something too (sex), that's why she has it. No one was talking about rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:10 PM
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yet, it happens so that it's almost impossible to find a girl who never had casual sex and has a low count. So it's probably not "almost never" like you're saying..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:07 PM
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OK I received it. And the title is the same. It's weird the search wouldn't find it.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 06:10 PM
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Your attitude comes across as making it seem worse. You can't pretend your tone doesn't come across that way even if you don't actually use the word worse There's no tone, there's just text. You need to stop imagining things. You're arguing with yourself. lol right, it is totally ghetto to have some fun "risky" sexual activity, some people enjoy it in cars. Others fuck in the park at night. It isn't ghetto, it just isn't your thing. I have been reminded by a guy about a handjob that was memorabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 06:08 PM
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In that case we'd still find the post with comments by searching for the thread's name and/or her reply to a comment. You have both of them in your post. Yet - the only thread google finds is yours. p.s. Mentioning the thread's name without the link and this part: In a response to a comment she qualifies the statement thus: He does look wimpy, he has the body of a hairless michael cera. ... gave you away. If she just deleted the text, the rest should still be there.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 05:13 PM
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You've said women who have sex are 'worse' than men who have the same amount of sex. You have said this without evidence. That is shaming. Own it. Quit hamstering No, I didn't say that. I did a ctrl+F to search, and the only one who said that is you, trying to put words in my mouth again. I said that they are affected by the number of partners differently, not that it's universally worse or better. lol have you literally never had a good handjob? Never had one in the car in a parking lot? Never …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:39 PM
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No, they didn't choose anything. Chose between what and what? Between having a high salary somewhere else and being a soldier? Pls. They didn't have viable options. And if you touched it, here's another example of feminist hypocrisy for you - the push for women in STEM: scholarships, 2:1 hiring rate, etc., even though they choose to works elsewhere. Meanwhile, there's no push for more women in bottom level jobs. Lol, wtf are you smoking. No, that's not a social expectation. That's literally the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:24 PM
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And men become victims of violence (including domestic violence) at higher rates than women. So what's the point? Women also get approached and have success stories at much much much higher rates than men. No, the food is not poisoned and it's not a better analogy. It's just simple food vs delicacies. No one dies or gets hurt. We were talking about dating/approaching and that some suitors are "creeps". Assaults are crimes and get punished. And let's not forget that presumption of innocence is ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:17 PM
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It's not at all like being sexually harassed. In this case a person makes unwelcome and uninvited moves. In case of employer paying differently - it's employer managing his own money and paying whoever he wants to pay as much as he wants to pay. Whatever they want. It's employers' money and they should be free to spend them the way they want. That gives more incentive for people to work and in turn become employers, because they know no one will control their money. Also, in such system, there n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 05:06 PM
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For all we know - they were and it does mean that. There was no BC back in the days. And no alpha would bother with a woman who fucks around and he doesn't know who the father is. Either way, you have no evidence and no proof that betas fucked but just didn't get to reproduce. You have no data, let alone good data, on people of that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/17 04:58 PM
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Draft or not, there are troops fighting right now. And most of them are men. and once again, this is irrelevant. What's relevant is that men have expectations, like they are expected to pursue, or ask out, or pay, or give his seat in public transport etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:09 PM
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Yes they do get approached. Putting themselves out there is not putting effort compared to the effort men are putting. All they need to do is create an account on a dating site/app. Yes, women have it. They have options. They will be hit by some guys they like sometimes. Or they can start being active and still had all those options that just come. No, it doesn't go both ways, not in what you listed. No one forces women to take fake friendships either. They know perfectly what they are doing. "N…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 11:06 PM
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They weren't committed and/or she didn't care all that much if she could move on fast enough to get a high N-count from a string of relationships. ALso it doesn't matter if those were hookups or boyfriends. The end result is N. Hookups are your relationships if the duration of LTR tends to 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:54 PM
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What evidence shows that? There is evidence showing that 1 man out of 17 reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:53 PM
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Once again, stop. We already got it that you have no idea what you're talking about. There's the least amount of need for men you've ever had precisely because you have the biggest army you've ever had. This thread is not about the army. It's about hypocrisy and men having to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:49 PM
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No, you didn't get attacked 16 years ago. That wasn't war. That's nothing. Yes I do live in America now. And yes you do need to prepare for the worst. That's the whole point. That's why you have army, and that's why you have all those rockets and nukes you aren't using and probably won't even use. Just the fact that you have them decreases the chances you will have to use them. Either way, it's irrelevant. We're talking about men expected to do more stuff than women and having less options in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:43 PM
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I wasn't the first one to use the word settling. Not, it appears to not be just as important, let alone more important, to the same girl for LTRs. That's exactly what I said in the first comment. It's just not what observations show. Exactly the same girl will sleep with some men without commitment while not letting other men that. For example, the story onclejulian repeated multiple times, like a girl was ready to date him but wouldn't have casual sex even thought she would have it without comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:37 PM
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Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:34 PM
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This isn't a female privilege, it's a hot people privilege. It's both. Supply-demand type of thing. Yes, some hot men have it too. Most men don't, though, and most women do. That doesn't change the point. Sure, you have all rights. But you can't be complaining that you also don't want to pursue men because apparently that's something they are supposed to do. You wanted equality? Then be okay with being treated equally. So how does everyone not have equal rights? What would you like to do to chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:33 PM
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How else are you going to get sex if she doesn't want to sleep with you? How does she get money/support from you if you don't want to give them to her even after divorce, and legally it's not robbery? Maybe somehow she can have sex with you and it won't be rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:13 PM
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What about if you're going into it without open agreement but you're saying upfront and in advance that if a partner withholds sex and/or tries to controls your sexual life (using sex as a bargaining chip for example), then you won't consider it cheating to get it elsewhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 10:01 PM
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That's is absolutely irrelevant. Once again, there's no child in the scenario I was discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:59 PM
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I never said they settled. She's still sexually attracted to that 8. He meets basic requirements and even more. Yet, for casual sex it wouldn't be enough because she could get even more without requiring commitment. ANd it's not SMV+RMV. It's SMV for one and RMV for the other one. RMV does include sexual attraction but the requirement is not as high, even though it is still a necessary requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:58 PM
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Then invest your money in developing Vasalgel, so that handling your responsibilities may be made easier. Maybe volunteer for trials. Which I might be doing for all you know. It's irrelevant. It's a forum and we're having a conversation about ideas in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:46 PM
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For one, romantically pursue and approach women. Yes I can confidently say that. We have WAY more men in the military that we need. Wars are not fought with men anymore, we don't need near the same numbers of troops that we need to. We need 1 guy to drop bombs, not 100 men to carry guns. No, you can't say that. If the country is attacked, if the systems are hacked or control centers are destroyed, you will need men with guns. There's no way around it. If you need 1 guy to drop bombs, how come th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:45 PM
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There's no child yet. We're talking right after sex. Don't give me that bs. Everyone knows that if there's a child adults are responsible. Now we are talking about basically woman getting man's sperm and impregnating herself and then requiring him to pay. How come? He gave no consent to her not using BC.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:39 PM
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No, A LOT of men don't. SOME men do. But the majority don't. It's not a legal right, yes. It just happens that women have that privilege. ANd yes, they are not equal just like apples and bananas are different fruits. Yet, you're still saying that you want to have both and men to only have one. No, YOU are comparing apples and bananas. You said: equate wanting to be romantically pursued so therefore they should give up their right to vote. . you can want equal rights and not want to be a man. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:37 PM
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Ok you didn't, a lot of men did. The point here is that maybe they were looking more carefully, because they are the ones wanting to fuck women and not you? Just a thought. It's not about dating down. For example, a girl is 7. She has casual sex with 9+ and dates 8. She is still dating up, but what men are telling you is true - her standards for casual sex are higher. But the 8 guy is sweet and has sense of humor etc, so is more pleasant to be around so she dates him. SMV vs RMV. Exactly. why wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:30 PM
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BS. yet we see the same woman having casual sex with way more attractive men than the men she dates seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:09 PM
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Yet, more men can get LTR than casual sex from the same girls. No, in LTR you can make up for being not as attractive with your personality and how you treat her, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 09:07 PM
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What exactly don't you understand? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5rrlod/why_does_wanting_equality_in_the_workforce_or/ddak17v/ or this : But don't equate wanting to be romantically pursued so therefore they should give up their right to vote. That's ridiculous. Having an option of being successful only due to others pursuing you is bananas, having the right to vote (For example) - apples. You're saying - I have a banana, you have an apple. I want to have my banana and your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:50 PM
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Which is exactly the consequence of having a lot of men in the military. And of men fighting in the first half of 20th century. And no, you can't guarantee there won't be draft. You just don't know that. But the fact is, that men have way more obligations and expectations than women, so you can't say it's not hypocrite to expect more of them while wanting more options and freedom for women. That's not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:44 PM
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There you have it. That's exactly what this all was about. So if a woman lied about birth control - she should be responsible for it, not a man, who wasn't lying about anything. (in this scenario). Includes, for example, the case where his BC failed (just like hers could and she wouldn't be responsible since it's an accident), but she lied and didn't even use one properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:40 PM
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It is and it was just one example. There are other privileges that only women enjoy. Whether they are legal or not. The point holds: You're saying - I have a banana, you have an apple. I want to have my banana and your apple, it's not hypocrite because they are two different fruits. No, that's not how equality works. Yes it is hypocrite. If you want equality, have equality. But don't pretend all those things are unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:38 PM
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So all those troops in Middle East are volunteers. So IF something happens men won't be forced to fight, so there's no draft. You're out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:35 PM
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Yes it fucking is, when it is DAILY. No it's not. People do daily things every day. They are supposed to take that pill every day anyway. Is it the "going somewhere" part that suddenly makes it suffering? Well, people go somewhere every day too - to work, to school, etc. Could open a thing there where you go to check in, for example. It all doesn't matter. The only question I"m arguing about is that how things should be in principle. Because it's wrong that only man has to be responsible for thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:34 PM
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It's not magical thinking. We were talking about what in principle would be right or wrong. Not how to do those things in detail. What are you arguing with? Do you disagree that it's wrong if a woman lies about BC but then a man is forced to pay? Because that's one thing I commented on, everything else doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:31 PM
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Half the stuff you have said is shaming people. Just because you don't say it out loud doesn't mean you aren't thinking it. It may also come out in your attitude towards people without you noticing. No, it's not shaming. You're not only putting word in my mouth, but now you're putting thoughts in my head as well. Do you really think it makes for a valid argument? You've no idea what I'm thinking and even if I was but wasn't in fact shaming people, then yes it means it's not shaming. it should ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:28 PM
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Exactly, as it should be. However, it's not a right thing that they are telling business owners what to do with their money. Sure they can dictate what state companies do. Private? Should be able to offer whichever salary they want and a potential employee can simply refuse if he/she doesn't like it. How is that even remotely fair if you can't choose how to invest your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 08:17 PM
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The asker would've spent half the money. The asker probably wouldn't go out if the askee didn't agree to go, actually. So no, I don't think it should be like what you said across the board.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:30 PM
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Yes and 99.7% or something of combat deaths are men. Having to fight is not a right. Men don't want that, but they are forced to do it. There's almost no women in combat zones, there's almost no women doing other hard jobs - like mining or working with garbage. They happily let men do those jobs while still wanting to vote. No it's not ridiculous. You're saying - I have a banana, you have an apple. I want to have my banana and your apple, it's not hypocrite because they are two different fruits.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:27 PM
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That's his business and he pays as much money as he wants to different people. If all business owners do it - it's fair. How would it be fair if he was told what to do with his/his company's money? State jobs yes, they can be forced to pay equally to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:18 PM
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Then what's your problem? That there's unequal pay for unequal amount of work just like it should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:11 PM
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Well it's not that simple. If ALL employers were paying women less (as they once did) I wouldn't really have a choice. If women would still work under such conditions, then why would anyone employ men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:08 PM
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lol right. No true feminist expects men to pay. No self-respecting feminist .. Sounds so familiar.. No true scottsman puts sugar on his porridge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:39 PM
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How aren't they hypocritical? Of course they are. You expect men to do more/have more inconveniences but want to have the same privileges. For example, the point of men voting was because they would fight wars and such if that'd happen. No idea why women can in most countries. ANd they it's ok. It's ok to want equal rights to vote and not want equal obligations to die for your right to vote. That's what they are saying and what you are pretty much saying in this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:37 PM
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So BCP would be like the methadone program, they make you front up to an approved pharmacist and take it on the spot? Like... DAILY? At the same time every day? How the fuck is this not making the innocent suffer? Could be delivered or whatever. THose are details and just an example. And no, going somewhere to take a shot or a pill is not suffering. I'm saying that lying about birth control is not rape. There are various other forms of crime I wouldn't mind seeing it defined as. But still, you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:33 PM
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Maybe not you, but why did you even join if you didn't read the whole thread? It all started from someone saying that it's a man's responsibility to use protection etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5q48b4/the_flip_side_of_deregulating_sexual_marketplace/dcw5cw2/ you should read everything else in that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:29 PM
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but he doesn't need to sleep with his "platonic friend" because he respects her as a friend. How is that a contradiction? o_O
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:17 PM
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Yeah, not everyone is going to be punished, but everyone should be. No matter the means. Also, the innocent wouldn't be punished or suffer anything. I'm not a chemist and won't come up with a new formula for BC. But it is in principle possible to make sure she didn't lie. Say, make her check in and take pills/receive shots in front of someone. So then court can always come back to those records and see if she took her BC regularly or lied about it. That's just from the top of my head. We aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:09 PM
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No and it never was. It was about how things "should be" and what they can technically be if there are certain precedents. And just because something is not illegal yet, it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be. And you can't blame a man if a woman lied to him about BC.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:06 PM
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Your disgust for someone leads to you shaming them. It has nothing to do with the thing they did. Sex doesn't really affect people. What does is people saying they are wrong for having it, when it is just an opinion. No it doesn't lead to me shaming them. I can control myself and don't run around saying "shame on you" to people. Sex does really affect people. Do your research. Even if it didn't and the only thing that affected people would be others saying something about having it - that itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:41 PM
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It is rape. If having sex with a drunk person who legally can't give consent is rape, if pretending to be another person is rape, then that's rape. But even if it wasn't, it still should be punished/be illegal. No matter how you call it. p.s. people go round calling calling psychology science or talking about "social sciences". They don't seem to care that words have meanings, and I won't in this case. It doesn't matter and it's not about the proper terms, but about fairness/unfairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:26 PM
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We know that lying about such things should be punished, at least. We need to admit that. And then in principle if there's a way to track something - it should be done. That's a whole different topic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:23 PM
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Yeah, and those psychos may be punished with restricting orders and such. So it's still illegal, whether it's rape or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:32 PM
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No, you can add something that has no side effect maybe. Assume, that's possible. Then nothing should be wrong about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:31 PM
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Source then please. I believe shaming can harm people, but not really the partner count. Two people can have consensual and good sex with 10 different people and both be about the same regardless of gender. However, if someone shames one, that can change. First of all, if sex leads to shaming someone and shame affects that someone = sex affects someone. That's simple transitivity. Second, yes it affects people in other ways, there's correlation between the number of partners and stability of mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 08:29 PM
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Obviously cheating has to have another dick involved. Being with another woman is not cheating. Most guys wouldn't care if their girl "cheated" with another girl, too. They'd even find it hot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:14 PM
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uh huh, I remember earlier you said you don't leave your house or take shower for months and weeks correspondingly :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 10:59 PM
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So I am not allowed to compare two people yet you can compare two different roles on a team. That makes total sense /s The number of sexual partners does not affect the different genders differently. It can affect how you view the other gender but that is on you. It is no worse for a woman to have sex than a man. You shaming them doesn't change that. You are allowed to compare two people as long as you remember whether their sexes are the same or not. You can't compare two people without taking …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 09:38 PM
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Alright, then they can come up with the way for it not to clear from blood fast. It can't be that hard to add some marker. There's no need to this now, because it's not a widely spread thing to check if a person was lying about BC, because who cares. The current (obviously unfair system) assumes that a man takes risk but a woman somehow doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 09:26 PM
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Alright, then they can come up with the way for it not to clear from blood fast. It can't be that hard to add some marker. There's no need to this now, because it's not a widely spread thing to check if a person was lying about BC, because who cares. The current (obviously unfair system) assumes that a man takes risk but a woman somehow doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 09:26 PM
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No. not necessarily. She could've happened to get pregnant by you days before sleeping with others without protection. It just so happened that she was already pregnant and you can't overwrite pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 09:24 PM
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Same about pretending to be a specific person who is using birth control when she isn't. It's only fair, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 09:10 PM
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That happens to reasonable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 07:37 PM
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When they lied it wasn't illegal. So they didn't do anything illegal, so why would everyone be in jail? If you make it illegal and people can prove others lied - yes they should be punished. Not necessarily jail, can just make them pay a good amount of money. Either way - it's unfair to say that a man should be punished, when in fact he's a victim of lying. What exactly do you punish him for? And why do you reward a woman for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:57 PM
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So it's his responsibility and she's just a sperm receptacle? If she lies to him somehow it's his fault that she got pregnant? Yeah yeah, the smart choice is to have sex with a trusted partner obviously. But then again - it applies to both. How is it fair that a woman is the only one to decide? If she has sex without taking care of BC - then it's on her to deal with the consequences. It's her body and all. They wouldn't make her responsible if a man got STD from her, right? He'd have to take car…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:53 PM
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No, it absolutely isn't, since condoms don't give 100% protection. It also doesn't change the fact that the system is unfair to men and forces them to be hooked by a slut. Wrapping it up = trying to minimize the damage for yourself. But it's irrelevant to the fact that it sucks for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:35 PM
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Yeah thanks for explanation xdd No, it's just not the case here. The analogy doesn't apply, it just isn't justified by your "probably from a religion that is a against divorce". Sorry. Everyone divorces. And "probably" their sample was representative and covered all possible groups and took religions and such into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:33 PM
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Absolutely correct. You can't make any strict conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:30 PM
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Not relevant here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:29 PM
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So you have taken up the argument that someone else made. It doesn't really make any difference. I didn't raise the matter of STDs because it has nothing to do with STDs. No, I agreed that the thing happened long before STDs, and explained why and how. Yes, and you learned that behaviour! You didn't come out of the womb feeling this way! You will need to prove that. I learned how to respond to my instincts - maybe. But no one ever taught me how to feel about anything. No, I didn't, I explained t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:29 PM
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They can remove it in the process. Or punch a hole in it like you said. Any type of lying should be illegal. Just because it isn't right now, it doesn't mean it's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:24 PM
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Which is irrelevant, because no one was saying about religions. The fact holds - they are better wives if one wants a stable marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:23 PM
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Shouldn't be that way, if she's the only deciding, she should be the only one obliged to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 06:22 PM
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Yes, the origin is not STD. IT's paternity. I wasn't the one who mentioned STD. I replied to your comment to explain what was the real reason. But yeah looks like you aren't reading anything and don't follow. You just saw three big letters STD and replied to the letters, not to the comment. It was a different person who mentioned STD, you replied to him, I replied to you. No, it's not learned behavior. If it was learned, then it can be easily dropped. But it can't. The disgust to sluts as potent…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:34 PM
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I'm not. I just have my observations too. And I can never derive that most couples are happy. Like, it's just antiscientific to say something like that, we can't know for sure. But then again, I have this thing about logic lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:28 PM
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Pretty dumb, especially if she was getting fucked by other men and you just happened to be a father. Oh well, maybe there would be some other factor that'll make all this not so unfair to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:27 PM
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I didn't know the singer's name myself. Just heard it in the car.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 11:25 PM
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You don't "observe" anything. They appear to be happy to you, which could be , for example, because you wouldn't notice others or wouldn't see the signs etc. I have no idea how you don't see that there's no reason for you to think they are happy or that the majority of couples are happy as you implied. After all, they didn't say to you that they were happy. At least some men told you they were unhappy. Those didn't report anything. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:56 PM
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No, YOU are determined to defend your beliefs rather than facing reality. That's why it's obvious to anyone that I'm making sense and you aren't. Yes, contraceptive pill blahblah. That's irrelevant, because I was talking about "As I said, stigmatising promiscuity in females massively pre-dates any knowledge of STDs." that quote of yours. So it pre-dates any knowledge of the contraceptive pill even more massively. Why do expect for anything to change? Instincts and genes were being programmed for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:49 PM
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I know. And you can't make the assumption that most couples are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:44 PM
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http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alessiacara/scarstoyourbeautiful.html That crap is all over the place. Even in songs - popular ones, too. All younger women are brainwashed into believing that and grow up like that. Don't even try to tell us you've never heard this song on radio or something. Or used in some video.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:42 PM
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**get fucked by him/let him fuck her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:39 PM
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not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:37 PM
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a child is a human being with the right to support from both parents. if you don't want to be a parent don't put yourself at risk. simple! A child is not a child until he's born. Or at least formed. So definitely not first few weeks/month. So at that point he can choose to let her know in advance he won't raise it, and then it's up to her to abort it (with his contribution) or raise it all by herself. In the latter case, a child will only have one parent with the right to support from only one p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:37 PM
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No I never strawman, you need to stop putting words in people's mouths. Yes, they can appear to be very happy to you, but it doesn't mean they are and therefore you can't use that as an argument in the discussion where you used it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/5q3iw4/patriarchy_gave_low_value_guys_an_inflated/dcw5na4/ A man is telling you how it is for most men, and yes we kinda discuss such things with other men IRL and can relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:34 PM
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You are confusing the reason and consequence here. People who didn't care that their woman isn't promiscuous didn't reproduce as much as people who cared about raising their own child. That's natural. We might not be naturally monogamous. But we do naturally want to raise our own children. That's why a promiscuous woman is not something we approve of. A promiscuous man is less risk since his behavior can't lead to leading his potential partner to believe she's raising her child but no turns out …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:31 PM
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lol not really
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:28 PM
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Yes. To an extent he already is. Rape by deception is a thing and impersonating somebody to get sex is illegal. Depends on a place of course. Like, there was that state where only impersonating husband was illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:25 PM
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No, they initiate and do things to persuade women, but it's women making the decision to do those things. Are you saying that it's demand's fault that supply is out there? No, no one forced suppliers to make things and meet that demand, they could supply for a different market, but their greed didn't let them pass on possible profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:25 PM
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AH you're talking like stone age? Well it made perfect sense until recently. And even though now they have paternity tests the system is such that men's rights on getting the results and getting them recognized in court are pretty limited and still at least 10% raise children of other men without knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:14 PM
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Then rape by deception is not rape, then she's not entitled to child support if she got pregnant by anyone who she wasn't married to, because she consented to risks of sex. But it's not the case. She will get child support or single-mother support. This is hypocrite and unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:02 PM
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No pass it on whoever's fault it is. In this case - whoever lied about BC. If a man lies that he's on BC you can be sure he'll be paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:00 PM
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I'm never strawmanning and definitely not again. That's what you said: You can't throw a stick without hitting a bunch of average looking couples who seem perfectly happy with each other. No, you can't use it as an argument. THey probably aren't perfectly happy with each other, especially in cases where they obviously had to settle. Like, why do you think all fat people pair up. Is it just a coincidence? Unlikely. So no, most couple probably are not "perfectly happy with each other".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:59 PM
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Yes, and therefore no one will ever believe feminists are for equality or fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:46 PM
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He was lied to. He had sex willingly only because he was lead to believe she got the BC covered. It's basically rape by deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:45 PM
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so while that means yes there maybe some higher scoring majority people not getting selected, That's all you need to know for this discussion. But talking about it in detail deserves a whole separate thread. Details can differ in different places. it's not like the people who got in were unqualified to begin with. Never said that. I said they were less qualified then other people, but those other people didn't get selected while less qualified people did. That is DIRECTLY taking places away from…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:35 PM
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I know and I was using I in a general sense as in I'm talking as a person we're discussing. But still, what was that about losing weight. Does it apply to dying/growing hair too? I don't understand why you can't admit that some couple are not 100% happy. And it's not because they think they could do better. It's actually because they didn't do better (whether they could or not). Finally, it's as unrealistic as assuming that all couples are happy and partners love each other. They could seem perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:31 PM
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Right. So men try to do that. But it takes forever and it's not easy. And for some men it's impossible at all. That's why they are dissatisfied. And I disagree. I get satisfaction hurting satisfied, feels like delivering justice. Then again, what I meant was not just being nasty towards people. I'm talking about getting at them when something really depends on you. That rarely happens, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:27 PM
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I have no idea why you wouldn't pull out if you aren't using condoms either. I'm pointing out that it's hypocrite that a man is punished when he was the victim to start with. And yeah, it should be an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:25 PM
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You're not the one to tell others what's juvenile. No you shouldn't make it a goal of your life to ruin their lives (unless you want it, and it's completely valid to want it). But sometimes you get a chance to do something minor, like when it's related to your job. In other words, being dissatisfied reminds you someone has it better and you should improve or make it worse for them. You can't just stop being dissatisfied unless you fix what makes you dissatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:10 PM
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Absolutely, don't have sex is a solution. So no reason to pay for BC for women or men. Yes, those things with different masses and fat compositions are what I wasn't sure about. However, you can still calibrate the test for each body type. Or can add some chemical to all BC that can be traced. Well, and finally: she might have forgotten to take it one day or taken it at a different time. This right here is exactly what makes "She told me she was on BC" a valid excuse. In the quoted scenario it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:07 PM
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I also don't think by providing incentives to minorities you're necessarily standing for limiting the options of the majority, although I understand the side effects of raising one group up can result in the others losing out. Yep, so yes they are limiting options of the majority. Basically, they are N spots, if you give give n spots to some, then others only get N-n they compete for. For example, if we take school that accepts 100 students, but you say let's have a 40% quota for women, then it …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:04 PM
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I'm not arguing that. The point is that what you're saying doesn't relate to the real world. Where they want their tippiest top pick. So yeah, you can't say they aren't bitter that they don't get it. And why would I need to lose weight, right? Do I need to dye my hair, too, if I want a woman with the hair of a different color?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:45 PM
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Which I bet is easy to verify by a simple blood test. Won't it show that the hormone levels are different if she wasn't lying? If indeed it failed, then yes she shouldn't be charged or anything. Yet, it's not a man's fault or responsibility. It's her side of BC that failed, so she should take care of that (like sue the company that made that BC or whatever). After all, if a man uses condom but it doesn't work - that man is made accountable for the pregnancy and is punished for having a condom th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:43 PM
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Yes, and we try to adapt. But why would we stop being dissatisfied and stop whining? What does it do? It reminds you who has it better than you and who you should get back at whenever you have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:39 PM
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No that's not my source. I directed you where you can find the actual sources yourself, because I'm not going to do it for you. Do you always only read the first sentence? Go ahead and find it, I would simply show that the methodology is flawed. Or remind that both studies are kinda worthless anyway, since it's not science. But why talk about that, there's no such study anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:38 PM
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"she said she was on birth control so I didn't use a condom!" is not an excuse But it should be. Lying about it should be illegal. When someone scams you to get your money - they are the ones getting punished. Suddenly, if they lie about BC the victim of lies is punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:35 PM
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Yeah purely academic scholarships for women are a thing. For example, see http://www.aps.org/programs/women/ https://www.aps.org/programs/education/undergrad/students/scholarships.cfm https://www.aps.org/programs/women/scholarships/ What is your industry? I just went to the first stem thing that came to my mind, and surely it was there. p.s. I can't be preaching to the wrong crowd. We are talking about empathy in general. You asked why men who want to regulate women deserve empathy. I'm pointing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:33 PM
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See the sidebar of trp. Or stick around and they will come up sooner or later. Or google something like "relationship stability number of premarital partners". I won't do your homework for you. Sorry, but who are you for me to care enough to go out of my way to show you? I'm not getting paid for it, it's not a conference either so I'm not getting a name for it. I think you are more than capable of finding those things yourself. I know what I've seen, but I'd need to google to find it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:28 PM
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Yeah lol. Just like those couples where both are fat. They definitely are each other's first choices and have no second thoughts and are completely happy with what they got, and would still choose the same people if they could choose from anyone. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:15 PM
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It's a proof that people are pressured to marry. WHat happened to equality? They let gay couples marry to get tax breaks. Why can't single people get them? Or how about no one gets them? Or maybe people should be able to marry anything since marriage is not about making kids anymore and is simply about companionship and sex. Why not let some people marry their hands or dildos? But no, that's the tool with which people are pressured to pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:10 PM
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Lol you need to get a book and read what probabilities mean and how they work. They don't predict anything for one woman. Women are more likely to commit to their first man, not every single one of them will. And yes, there are studies and such. And the divorce rate is the lowest among the couples with the virgin-wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:09 PM
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Too much to get something others get easily and free. Sure, every man will try and stuff. But they will be unhappy about it and that they are forced to go through it. Not sure what you're arguing with. He told you why men are dissatisfied. What was your point? That they shouldn't and should just suck it up? It doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 07:04 PM
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But aren't we supposed to have empathy to women who want quotas, scholarships and special treatment = men's potential and achievements have to be regulated for the sake of less capable women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 06:56 PM
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This. Good girls don't date multiple people at once or with short breaks. They also don't start sleeping with someone new after just having a date with someone else a few days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 08:32 PM
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If 'Chads' are getting laid so easily, why not be one of them? Because: This is not what I want, it's not really what I'm into at all. And Ideally I'd like a deep connection, a solid healthy relationship. Someone to share my experiences with, someone that 'gets me' and I 'get them'. Someone to bond with and maybe even build a life together. . Then on top of all of that....why even go through all the trouble of say courting a good girl like 'Lisa' and jumping through all the hoops only to get a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 08:29 PM
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Yep, we thought being successful and getting that PhD would help later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 08:17 PM
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But you need to make sure that he actually avoids casual sex, by which I mean - he knows he can get it and got it a few times, but chooses not to engage in that risky behavior. Because if he finds himself not having it while others do and it's all over media, he will feel excluded and a loser. Because that's what happens in real life when you are singled out. That is if he tries to get it and fails, of course. If he knows he can get it but doesn't, that's a good thing of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 08:12 PM
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Because you would want him to be happy? My parents didn't focus on that and focused on other things instead. And then what? You have another guy with high GPA and degrees and stuff who can't get laid like others do. And who knows how it will affect things in future. All those thoughts as in "am I with her because I love her or because I have no other options anyway" can't be good for that guy's future family, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 08:07 PM
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So you can't argue that it's way easier for girls to have sex after the undeniable proof that can be found after clicking that link. And instead of admitting you just ignore and pretend that part of the conversation never happened? When it was the main topic, actually. Ew. Why do you even engage in discussions when you know in advance you can't ever admit or accept the point you're arguing with. Are you arguing just for the sake of it or why? So you are just butt hurt women tend to have guys ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:53 PM
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Yes you are, you're a cuck who also plays around. Just a smaller subset of cucks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:42 PM
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No, what you said is when they say "pump and dump". Getting fucked casually is bad regardless of only using "fuck" in the passive form when applied to women. Seriously, it's just what it is. In some languages it still stayed that way, it's some English speakers who are trying to promote that a woman can fuck a man too (but no, she can't of course, unless there's pegging involved).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:16 PM
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A man who allows his partner to have sex with others, without doing so himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:12 PM
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Cuck = a dude who's SO is sleeping with other men. Period. Consent doesn't matter. It only distinguishes cucks who consented(like open or poly relationships and marriages, or fetishists) from cucks who are being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 10:10 PM
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This "women can only get fucked" mentality is really weird. It's not and is reflected in many languages where word "fuck" implies penetrating. It's not weird also because women are sexual selectors while men have to chase sex and work to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:52 PM
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In your case there's another good explanation though. He didn't commit to a girl who does casual sex. That and yes maybe he wasn't below your league and you overestimated yourself or underestimated him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:50 PM
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Nope. Yes, the proof is here. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144422591 You offer no argument, though. Just being in denial. Let me simplify again. Man = person, woman = person so yes the N count of a man and woman are the same. Why do you think there is a difference anyway? No, man = person, woman = person would work in the context where they are the same. Like, say, they are two employees so they are sexless in this context. Here - man = person with a dick who has to chase women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:37 PM
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No, you're wrong. Not messaging back send the message - I saw your message and decided to ignore you. It is an interaction. It's textbook stuff, literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 09:21 PM
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No...it isn't... Uh yes it is. Sent you the link above. If she has options, any other woman does. Lol let me simplify. A man had sex with 20 people or a woman had sex with 20 people. In this case N=20 for both. They are the same. You are using a double standard. Once again. Write them down on paper next to each other if you're struggling with the screen. "Man had sex with 20 people", "Woman had sex with 20 people". X, Y. They are not equal. DOn't you see the difference? It's not N=20 for both, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:42 PM
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Yes to all. Absolutely you interacted. You rudely ignoring someone = sending the message. It's just like the absence of answer is the answer. That kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:30 PM
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Finding boundaries can be difficult for women too. If the goal is just to find them - then I don't see how it can be difficult. She can try anything sexual as in any sexual act with as many people as she wants relatively easy. Men and women havin general sex is measured the same. There is no difference between a high count man and woman when talking about the amount of partners. It is a double standard. No. Men and women are different and therefore the standards are different. They are literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 10:06 PM
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It is. A one-sided interaction is still an interaction. Not an interaction is when none of the two messages the other one and they have no (attempt of) contact at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 09:55 PM
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My point was that women also have difficulties when it comes to sex and relationships. Relationships yes, particularly enjoyable sex - maybe. But getting sex, finding boundaries? No. And I thought that's what we were talking about. Consent doesn't have to be spoken. Meh whatever also counts The point is orgasms tend to equal better sex. Lol yeah, and postcoital nonconsent is not a thing. Wake up, what planet are you on? Here on earth, only yes means yes and if a girl is drunk she can't consent. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:51 PM
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And they still ghost/ignore on tinder, for example. Where they are free to only swipe right to those they want to talk to. So a part time job isn't an excuse there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 08:32 PM
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You are still comparing two different things. Women don't want the same things as men for the most part No one ever said anything about wanting the same things. I compared the same things though - getting laid. You are the one who's trying to compare getting laid by one to getting a date by the other one - now these are different things. If you were just like whatever I fail to see how it was almost rape. I have also had sex that was bad and sex that was good that didn't end in orgasm. I find th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:58 PM
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Yeah that's why there are sites/apps where they have to message first or match first so a guy can message. And still ... :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:52 PM
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Oh of course. It's just hypocrite, that's all. And in this case it is a double standard - some users get banned for not making "positive interactions", while others don't. "“As a site that promotes positive interactions between our members " is how they called themselves in that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:43 PM
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Yeah it's rude. Like if you come to a person on the street to ask the direction and he just ignores you? No, it's rude af. Using your logic - there's nothing wrong with explaining why he didn't like you. She's not entitled to not get something like that. Yet, the guy gets banned while millions of people who ignore others are considered to be in line with "“As a site that promotes positive interactions between our members ". Ghosting is definitely not a positive interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:42 PM
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My point is that women in general want different things than men. You can't compare both the way you are it won't work. Yes you can, it very easy, look. It's easier for women to get laid. Boom. Just did it, no problem. So if it wasn't enjoyable why did you stay? We also, as you keep putting it, are talking about sex. Not masturbation. Sex with an orgasm is superior to sex without it in almost every case Because I was drunk and like "whatever". On the other hand, I had sex that was way more enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 07:34 PM
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Oh, disgust is definitely a part of it. Also, see the sidebar for a bunch of graphs and studies that were posted here multiple times - and yes, correlation is enough. But now, it's not what it makes her. It's just an analogy to help you understand why the N count itself matters, and not just the intensity of getting it. The absolute value matters - for someone it's disgust, for others it's the likelyhood of her being able to commit, etc, for some it's a combination of all. Doesn't matter. What m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:24 PM
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I don't understand why he was removed. He just explained why he wants nothing to do with her. That's way more polite than ignoring messages like most women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:18 PM
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But it's not. Again, I spent most of my 20s in the US, so yeah - still applies. The point is - if a woman is trully dating to find a husband, but yeah it's probably not the first or second guy she dated, then technically you can call her a serial monogamist. However, if that's her intent - she will only have long/meaningful relationships and her N count will never reach the slutty territory. Otherwise - I got bad news for her. It applies everywhere. Don't try to say that's it's not slutting it u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 06:13 PM
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But you know that genes don't care about "modern environments", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:55 PM
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I don't know the reasons every woman sleeps around. I can tell you why I did for a little while, and it wasn't really entirely because of the sex. But the reasons of every individual woman don't matter really. It's the trend that does. They can rationalize it in different ways, but the truth is plain and simple - they like it, that's why they're doing it. If they didn't even like the idea, they wouldn't even start. Rape is an entirely different situation. I am talking about consensual sex. Oh th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 05:54 PM
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Or they are some of the lucky ones who can orgasm through sex? Who knows? There could be many reasons. There are, but the ratio is very low. And they still keep doing that, so apparently it's worth and is enjoyable enough? To find someone who is good? That makes no sense. If the probability to find someone good through hookups is so low and it's so hard to find someone good like that, then why not do the other thing (e.g. dating, LTR). It means it was good enough. No it doesn't. It means it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:42 PM
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Yeah maybe. The point is, settling down is encouraged for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:37 PM
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I am, but have been living in the West for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:36 PM
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Women enjoy the process if it is good Yes, that's what I'm saying. But it doesn't necessarily include the orgasm. Otherwise, why do they still become sluts? They must like the process that much. My point is it is harder for women to find good sex, most aren't looking for random easy lays because that isn't what they want. You want something different, you can't compare the two well. And why do women date or hook up? Because an orgasm with someone is better than doing it alone most of the time, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:07 PM
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You don't need to do all those things. Just don't have sex. Because numbers 1 and 3 make you look like a bitch and an unpleasant woman to date. It's the 21st century after all, equality and all. And why would a man want to keep investing his time in a woman who won't give him attention or make steps towards a relationship too. That sends him message that you aren't interested and he should move on. See, I wouldn't pump and dump, but when I'd date my future girlfriends, they wouldn't become girlf…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:59 PM
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They weren't I think, especially not Putin, cause what can happen to him? It's not like anyone really counts votes in former soviet union anyway, so it's not like he wouldn't get elected again. But people who aren't that high can seriously be given shit for that, like be passed for a promotion and stuff like that. There was even data somewhere showing that and that being a family guy helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:53 PM
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No, I am. N-count IS what shows a slut in the end. Your frequence or N per unit time only matters for girls who didn't have much time, say, she barely started having sex a year ago and you're considering her for a relationship - then she might not get a high N but still be a potential slut. Other than that - you look at the N count. YEs you do expect a person to have sex in a relationship. You also do expect a person who claims to be relationship-minded to have it only in a relationship and at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:50 PM
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And doesn't want the std risk involved with you sleeping with other people. OR finds something you don't like and finds a guy on the side for that. Ok, so she requires you to use condoms or get tested if she doesn't trust you or breaks up with you if she doesn't want to deal with all this crap and looks for somebody who's into the same stuff as her. I will reword it. Men get orgasms from most vaginal, oral, and anal sex. Most women need more than just those things to orgasm. So it is incredibly …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:44 PM
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There are no social penalties for it. None. I have been there, and no one cares if you are fucking tons of women. That's not entirely true. Even top men get shit for it sometimes. Like, when Putin was having something with that gymnast, or like people were giving shit to clooney until he married (someone mentioned it in the sub a few days ago).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:38 PM
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But why would men be willing to invest in a woman knowing that other men get it easy and without having to work. Especially if other men got it easy from the same girl who now expects this man to invest in her? Now that would be low value and desperate - paying full price for something used others got on a sale.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:23 PM
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Men seem to get off on "the chase", and they want to feel like they "earned" sex. Don't get it wrong though. They only get off to this if a girl wasn't easy to anyone else. Because "earned" sex implied that she's not "easy". If they'd know for a fact that the girl wasn't easy but get sex fast themselves -they would still get off to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 03:20 PM
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Yeah, if she's riding a car and if she's riding bicycle, then it's a whole different vehicle. The speeds are different, but she can still cover the distance. And that's what matters in the end. Personally I don't see how an N-count of 10 is even remotely that much especially so over an span of 10 years, knowing that it is that easy for women to get laid. As if we should increase the limit just because it's easier for them to reach it? That doesn't matter. It was always easier for them. That's on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:19 PM
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No, I expected to be given the chance to develop a relationship, or at least be privy to his feelings on the matter. So you were given a chance, he didn't like sex with you or how you acted after or whatever, so the relationship didn't develop. So girls have no other choice but to adapt and give the guy what he wants. If all that was true, then they would give it to any guy and couldn't afford being picky. So how come they only give it to a select few and others never get to experience that and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:07 PM
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You're welcome. You somehow "can't see" how she goes to a slutty territory with 1 man a year, so it wasn't an open door. For some reason you think it's about velocity, when it's actually about velocity times time = "distance travelled". With low velocity it will take longer time, sure, but she still can reach that point. If her velocity is 1 guy per week - it will take 5 weeks, if it's 1 guy a year - it will take 5 years, but it's still possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:03 PM
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She wants to be exclusive and have sex but not do anal as an example. If a guy wants sex elsewhere the woman should also be able to. That is not a double standard. So she wants to be exclusive in oral and vaginal sex, but not in anal sex. Ok. Endless...infinite...basically the same. Sure, and compared to the options men have, it is such. OK so it is much harder for women, because we are often looking for quality sexy which can't really be found in a ONS often. Getting laid, not getting laid and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:00 PM
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A sexual encounter per year is hardly that much really. I can't see how a woman would enter "slut" territory that way. Easy, once the number of dicks she had is closer to 10 than to 0 - she's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:31 PM
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It's not real data though. Real data is if somebody was actually counting their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:29 PM
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Because they are not "partners" and don't expect it from other "partners". They are "men" and "women", so yeah men expect women to not be available to lots of men and not take a bunch of dicks. YOu can explain it logically, using all those evolutionary arguments. But whether those are true or not, a part of it is disgust and an emotional reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:55 PM
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And if she wants to be exclusive? Also are you basically saying that if a girl wants something different in a relationship she needs to break up but if a guy wants something he can just cheat? That is the biggest double standard and shows more insecurity. Wait, so she wants to be exclusive but not have sex with her SO? And no, that's what I'm saying - if he won't have sex with her, she can insist on getting it elsewhere, too. And finally, no - there are no double standards in sexual relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:47 PM
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No I'm not. But good attempt trying to farm those upvotes, usually calling people names works, too bad noone really read that deep to see that comment of yours. Of course they would keep doing that if there would be no social and career penalties for that. And we all know how they would be looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 07:20 PM
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Ok then the boys who give you stares.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 06:48 PM
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Not actually allergic, but she can dump a scumbag who makes it open without her agreeing. She can also get sex other places as well if she likes that it is open, and from my experience that doesn't always go well. Lol She obviously can get sex easily. That's the whole point. She can even get it right here in her LTR but doesn't want to, so he has to look elsewhere. If she just doesn't want sex - that's a solution, since she doesn't want it from others. If she just doesn't want sex with him, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:29 PM
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If they say it does matter then it does. It matters to them, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:19 PM
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Whores are not chads. Women want to get fucked by chads and get attached etc. Men don't get attached to whores, they don't want to commit to whores or get their commitment. Men go for whores because they are easy sex and they have no choice. They'd ideally keep sleeping with multiple women forever. Women don't need to go for chads for easy sex. But they have their choice so why wouldn't they.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 09:12 PM
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I said really allergic as in a drip on your shirt they accidentally touch could hurt them. It was meant to represent that a lot of people are not cool with open relationships. Saying you'll find it elsewhere is not really an option in most situations. Yeah no, but you can't be allergic to open relationships, so yeah no. And ok, then you eat naked so that there's nothing they can accidentally touch. Really? I had to actually work for a long time to get the guys interested. It wasn't quite as easy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:54 PM
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Wanting to try and actually trying are different things. Talking or wanting to try doesn't make you a slut. Even trying something with your husband or whatever doesn't make you a slut (that's the whole point of marriage). Or marriage aside, if your N is 1 and you tried everything with that 1 - that still won't make you a slut. It's sleeping around that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:46 PM
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That's because the slutty one will want to go with him faster. If a shy girl wants to go with him, too, he will take her. Or ideally - he'd take both. But then you'd call that shy girl slutty XD p.s. but in real life he won't take anyone home lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:42 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. He actually did :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:40 PM
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Please stahp. That dude that helps you with homework? He'd fuck you. That other dude that chats with you between classes all the time? So would he. That other dude that you're hanging out with just as friends? He'd be happy to get a chance AND would do anything for you sexually including learning whatever you want him to learn with you. You just choose not to get laid, but you can. I'm not gonna ask you for pics or anything, because you'll find the reason not to post them. But no, if you're gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:37 PM
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I'm not forgetting. Of course they do that too until they are put in their place after 100% rejection rate for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:31 PM
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Well lately I haven't seen much of it on Internet, too. Has it happened to people I know? Maybe - how do you imagine I would start a conversation like that? "Hey man, does your gf do anal with you?" xDD Men don't talk about things like that. Has this happened to me? I hope not, but how can I know for sure? The whole point of those stories is that men discover the past being years deep in a relationship. My point is that it never happens the other way around, no matter how often or not you hear i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:30 PM
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The ironic thing about this is, men ride the carousel with Staceys too. What? 5% of men? 20%? Most don't have that option. And those who do - marrying anyone but not Stacey is the opposite of settling down. The last girl will have everything Stacey got sexually + commitment etc. After all, we hear tons of stories where men don't get sexual best and discover how their wives love sex and certain sexual acts, just not with them. But I can recall 0 stories like that with the roles reversed. Also: ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:40 PM
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I'm not upset and dgaf. But he called you out legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:35 PM
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But you are. You are getting hit 1-2 times a month AND getting stares all the time (as you mentioned). You are constantly reminded that you are liked and are sexually attractive. That's nothing like what guys go through - dry spells, feeling invisible to girls (hitting on them? there're even no stares), 0 tinder matches, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:34 PM
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Yes, my point is that some things are acceptable, some things are fun, and somethings are a definite no for people. When I find a guy who is awesome in a ton of ways but doesn't like one thing I like or want to try, I accept it. It is like dating someone super allergic to peanut butter. You don't eat it for fear that the oil could cause them pain. I don't do things that are hard nos because I don't want to hurt people, even if I want to experience said thing. I expect the same of my partner You …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:32 PM
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Being upfront with the desires and acting on them are two different things, though. Having desires or talking about them doesn't make you a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:23 PM
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Yep, we'll never know for sure. But the thing is - if a man is choosing a partner, why would he settle for somebody who won't give her sexual best/ doesn't see him as somebody she wants to have porn-like sex with? I mean, almost all men have no troubles with providing comfort and all that. That's the easy part. But just like sardonis said many times, if there's no raw sexual attraction, then what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:59 PM
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Yes it is. And yes - any person, but we are talking about women right now, so why would I generalize it? Yes, some people are upstanding enough etc. But they still technically can cheat. And some cheat but pretend that they leave before having sex with a different person etc. There's no way to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:55 PM
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Uhm the burden of proof is on you. He can tell you shit until you post a pic or something (which still could be not yours). In fact, he can't even know if you're a woman at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:44 PM
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But not really, because men dont' want to marry stacy. Moreover, knowing that a girl is talking to somebody else at the same time as she's talking to him is a stop signal for many many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:34 PM
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I get hit on MAYBE once or twice a month if I'm lucky. Lol are you trolling? Or is it not enough for you? Because most men get hit one or twice a decade xd or stay in your own league. THat's true, you should only go for girls or guys with the same or similar MMR in LoL or WoW.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:30 PM
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Lol yeah but there could be sexually unsuccessful polygamists :) So that's the only way for them to get sex regularly while still get new partners every now and then. Just saying it is possible, not saying it's good or bad or common/uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:09 PM
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It doesn't. Only for some men. While many many men spend their late teens and all 20s doing just that - partying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 09:05 PM
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Eh and the prohibition of slavery was against the owners' and their children's interests, so? If we are all about justice and fairness, we must give men an option to know for sure. Maybe we shouldn't test it just in case, but we should have like a checkbox where they can choose to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:50 PM
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And I'm sure that a big chunk of men who were cheated on would think the same way. Not saying that you are wrong, just saying that it's easier to cheat and hide it then to catch a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:45 PM
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Any woman might cheat, some don't and some do but just don't get caught. So if someone seems to be a type that wouldn't cheat, it doesn't mean that they are. Why leave it all to trust if you can check? At least if the baby was yours. Unfortunately there's no test yet to make sure she only had sex with you :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:44 PM
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Leonard had more women than most men will have in their lifetime :) Especially those men who chose the path of graduate student - PhD in physics. http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Leonard's_Women 8 names here AND some are REALLY hot (minus 2 he didn't really sleep with, but definitely would if he was willing to cheat). And most of them were in early seasons so he wasn't even 30. People who are objectively more attractive and fun sometimes are much less successful. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:22 PM
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No, I saw statistics showing that domestic violence is distributed differently - it's pretty much equal but men are victims more often when it comes to things like murder and severe injuries. So you're wrong here. Common sense also doesn't say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:08 PM
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Yeah, it doesn't exist to fucking. It exists to committing. Because biologically speaking, fucking = reproducing and you want to maximize your chances. BUt you also want to minimize chances of raising somebody else's kid and thus committing a genetic suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:04 PM
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It may not be directly enjoyable enough to cause an orgasm but it is still enjoyable. It can be sexy, fun, interesting, and a good time for the person giving the oral. Some things are not enjoyable at all for some people and I respect that. You seem not to. Exactly, same can be applied to anal or any other sexual act. Oh so you don't have much trouble then. With getting laid casually and exploring my boundaries and completing my bucket list? Yes I do. And what if they are just in to bigger girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 08:02 PM
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Nice. Also shows that they require betas to settle - cause they should be happy with somebody paying less money then they can/used to. That reeks of entitlement XD
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 07:52 PM
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Funny how you use will for one and can for other. An angry woman can kill you too. And an angry man most likely will abuse/shame you, but not kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:49 PM
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No instinctual revulsion towards fucking sluts, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:46 PM
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Lots of things are done for a partners that are also enjoyable. Oral is one example. I shouldn't have to do something uncomfortable for a partner just because he wants it. Oral is not directly enjoyable. It's enjoyable for a partner - they can orgasm due to stimulation of their genitals. You can't orgasm due to stimulation of your tongue. Like, in this case, tongue is interchangeable, you can stimulate genitals with anything else. That example is making my case stronger, actually. That's exactly…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:35 PM
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Any, not my. And yeah there's more than looks, but that's what I'm saying - I have more than that going for me lol But yeah, I agree that n is a good measurement. And my n is below average I think. But see - that's the thing, the average is skewed by your top 1%. Plus, there are people who marry early or only do LTRs for whatever reason. Another reason for N not to be that great is that it's an ongoing thing, so it doesn't really reflect attractiveness. I can start late even though attractive, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:04 PM
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wait lol, do you mean, basically, that air is delivered to their lungs directly so they can breathe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 08:00 PM
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Not relevant? It is a reason. That should be good enough. Nope, still not relevant. What's relevant is what was done, not how it was rationalized. She could've broken up if she didn't like it. But no, she did because she wanted him happy. It's like the case of giving oral sex - it's done for a partner. Exactly. Everyone gets ghosted so quit whining about it. Oh and guys go through all that shit too? Great. So we are on equal footing. And we were talking about getting laid? Great, then what I wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:59 PM
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I don't underestimate the power of idealization. As in, I want that and it's not that idealization is not allowed. Yes usually she does I guess. However, all them scary stories people discussed here and on trp? Yeah, I don't need my girl to be "the hottest", however I will act like she is including giving my "sexual best". If she does the same, then it's all good. Like, I won't say "i'm not like that anymore" if she wants something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:50 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:41 PM
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You mean, where men dying to protect women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:19 PM
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The only person being restrictive here is yourself. Not her. It's you. Absolutely, yet you want to do it without having to lie or dump her. Because if you're in a relationship, you are there because you're in love. Yeah and you can be in love and then stop being in love when some issuer arise. People stop being in love all the time. Yeah you're in a relationship cause you're in love and all that. No you are not entitled to pussy. Yet, you are entitled to choose a partner however you want. That i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:18 PM
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Maybe she did, maybe she was guilted in to it. You don't know. Maybe it was just expected and she still didn't really want to do it. Maybe the taste is just super unpleasant Not relevant if she was guilted. All that matters is what she did. It is easy. Lower your standards or quit bitching about other people who have standards. Maybe I am looking for my version of a soulmate. I wouldn't find that looking for ons on tinder anyway so I never joined. If it doesn't work, try in real life, lower them…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 11:12 PM
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No, it doesn't. It says pretty much what you linked. So you compare one to "another" one, which means they have to be of the same type. So in our context, men and women are different, because the context is sexual and they are two different sexes. If we were talking about, say, male and female cashiers, then yes they would have the same set of standards as workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:30 PM
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Why? Why don't you like peanuts or something? I just find it disgusting. It's not logical and doesn't have to be. If she gives it up easy for everyone, that won't make me feel as special as if she had high standards (and it would be implied I met them why not many other men could), especially if I'm supposed to work for it and she WILL sometimes withhold it and all that. I assure you, I'm not below average in any metrics. Or at least not much below average. Especially living in the place where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:27 PM
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well yes, roleplay consensually is one thing. I'm talking about her legit fighting not to get raped and like being not aroused and dry and stuff. Maybe someone is into it, I just can't imagine that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:24 PM
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No, I did and they said I was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:51 PM
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No, not everyone. Most males do not cycle through hookups. They wish they could. Not wanting to get something you don't want is not insecurity. Wearing safety belts is not insecurity. Those relationships wouldn't be good for me, because I can't feel respect for a woman who let multiple dicks inside her or can't refer to her as a girl of my dreams. I'd rather stay single, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:10 PM
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Yeah, but her brothers with knives and shotguns do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:08 PM
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But no, you don't know and you demonstrated that you don't know what they mean. You keep mistaking double standards for different standards. And you are the one who's absolutely wrong. It's in the definition. That word "another" means that you compare things "measured" in the same units. You can't compare meters and kilograms. YOu can't compare cats and dogs, and you can't compare men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:08 PM
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I really don't even think that example is something that happens all that often though. I think it is more likely that she never really liked it much at all but was "expected" to do it. I have a friend back home who has said that to me. She was expected to give bjs she didn't really enjoy and now she doesn't really do them with her boyfriend because she doesn't have to. They seem happy enough so there is no problem. Are you basically suggesting cheating to get the thing you want elsewhere? Most …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:06 PM
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Some part of it. It's not cowardly when you want to avoid the undesirable result. It's pragmatic. And it's not that I'm afraid, I also don't want to be anyone's plan b when I wasn't anyone's plan a. Can't I choose how I want my life to be? I don't want to be settled for and get someone's sloppy seconds. Either way, cowardly or not - I see you understand that it's a valid thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:55 PM
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No, not explained wrongly at all. Men and women are different - therefore the standards are different. Now if you have different standards for different men - that would be double standards. Or if you have different standards for different women - that would be double standards. But you can't call it double standards that women's bathrooms don't have urinators.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:35 PM
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it doesn't have to have a causal relationship. Correlation is enough to avoid it like the plague
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:31 PM
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I believe BB is not just about money. It's about comfort too. And about giving her more to get something others got for free, and sometimes not even all of that something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:23 PM
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Your "lots" doesn't mean much as is. Name the percentage of all men. Everything else is completely irrelevant to our argument, sorry. Most men are getting anywhere only if women select them. Men can't get pregnant. etc. Men and women are two different sexes and have different standards. p.s. just the fact that some men have different n counts DOES NOT say anything about it being due to life choices. I want to choose to have a high n count, but it's still low, because only top men can get a high …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:21 PM
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You left him, had a meaningful relationship with another man, and then he agreed to get back together. Definitely alpha. cuz real alphas don't care and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:18 PM
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Good for you. And most of us had 0 result doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:11 PM
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That makes sense. Can't imagine how somebody would get aroused by a woman actively resisting and not wanting to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:05 PM
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They can abuse in other ways. Like get pregnant from another man (Or even the same). In some cultures it's not unheard of men of her family coming and forcing a man to marry after defiling their sister/daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:04 PM
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Just because you call it a double standards it won't become it. The example you quoted was explained manytimes already. Men and women are different sexes, therefore they have TWO DIFFERENT sets of standards. Not double standards. Double standards is if you have two women doing the same thing, but judging one of them. Or two men. But when you have two different sexes (man and woman), then two different sets of standards apply to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:00 PM
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There's nothing to debate. They are two different sexes, one of which is a sexual selector and the other one has to chase, one of which has high costs (can get pregnant) and the other one lower cost (takes minutes to "recharge"), etc. It's all been mentioned here over and over again. They are not different enough if they work as cashiers, let's say, then yes they should have the same standards. But sexually they are different - therefore the standards are different. Sexual dimorphism is a thing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:57 PM
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Tastes aren't allowed to change? Yeah they are. It's just funny and not suspicious at all how they change back from liking something with other people, but not with the new guy that she has when she's older and wants "stability" lol. But sure, they are. If your tastes change, though, you won't require another person to stop eating something, though, right? Guys can easily get girls if they want. The guys on dating sites often barely try at all. Yeah, 5% guys or whatever. Otherwise - not true. Ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:55 PM
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That's the whole different argument. Your argument was - why do something if it won't stop what you're fighting with. And yes, what a slut does harms my situation on the sexual market, of course. But again, it's a whole different argument, that I believe somebody else is already having in this thread. My point was that your argument I replied to was invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:48 PM
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No, it would apply if you were talking about two men or two women. But you are talking about a man and a woman, who are different and man is not "another" woman or vice versa. Would you name a woman hypocrite if she sits down to pee but criticizes men for it? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:46 PM
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It would be explosive XDDD But seriously, if both mouth and dicks are in the air, they aren't in vacuum and it would feel as usual :) And if they both are, you can't create a pressure differential without the air and atmospheric pressure. You can still slide in and out of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:44 PM
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Yes, and "another" have to be of the same subset. If a man engaged in some behavior and criticized OTHER MEN for doing that - he would be a hypocrite, no questions about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:41 PM
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There's unfairness in your first scenario. She didn't mind other guys fucking on the side, but won't be okay with you doing the same things if she wants her bb. She didn't require that from them, but requires it from you. Also, sheer difference in numbers, if she slept with 50 guys and you slept with 5, why wouldn't she want that number to become equal? :) But no, people will come up with some bs that past is past. And yes, you say it yourself in the next paragraph. That's the thing- she was ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:40 PM
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that it doesn't matter in this discussion and you shouldn't ask his view on that, because it's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:24 PM
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You are basically suggesting force feeding someone who doesn't like a specific type of food because they tried it before. A girl who has tried something before is allowed to not enjoy it. No, I'm saying that they can try the same thing with other ingredients. Or them not being opposed to you eating it elsewhere and with someone else. Do you even read? Yes, they are allowed to not enjoy it. However, I brought up another example - where they didn't just try it once and didn't enjoy it, but where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:06 PM
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No. And I assumed we were talking about women being deceitful to men, regardless of how men are, which is irrelevant anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:01 PM
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Does it also mean that she won't be able to relate and understand how it is to love and appreciate one person and work on sex and other things with that person? How it is to commit to one person instead of hopping into bed with everyone you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:59 PM
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This is just a bad analogy! Bad analogies in no way justify abusing people. If you choose not to mate with 'sluts' that's your choice, but abusing women because of their sexual choices is obviously fundamentally wrong. How is it bad if women are gatekeepers of sex and decide if sex happens? (similar to a lock "deciding" which key to be opened with).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:53 PM
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What's the problem with people using the word slut or slut shaming. If you don't want girls to be slut-shamed why won't you recommend them not being sluts if they don't want to be slut-shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:51 PM
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But, sluts should understand that they are not sucking cock in a vaccuum. Interesting fact, you can't suck anything in vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:43 PM
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Absolutely not. Just look up the definition of hypocrisy, will you? Do you even logic? To get a certain number she needs to sleep around. Sleeping around is defined as getting a certain number.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:12 PM
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That's assuming that denominators are actually equal and all sexual relations are heterosexual and 1 on 1. Which I think isn't necessarily true since women get to experiment more with other women and with more than 1 man at a time (= +1 average count for team man, but +3 for team woman, for example). But yeah, the averages should be about the same. It's the medians that one should look at. Averages don't say much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:08 PM
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Average will be roughly the same of course. What you wanted to say was median, I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:06 PM
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lol and most women can't handle weak/short/fat men. It's all about insecurity, not disgust, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:03 PM
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Fighting cancer or aids won't stop people dying from it either any time soon. Does it mean we shouldn't do anything? People who want something to stop and believe in their cause should be free to do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:57 PM
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Why should it be and how is it relevant anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:55 PM
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They can have it with whoever they want. Then they shouldn't be surprised that they will be shamed, since most men are discriminated against when she's choosing who to sleep with. I'm fine with any slut as long as she's not lying or pretending. No she'd still likely be shamed as a bad marriage candidate. Yes I would say they are bad, because they are taking advantage of the system and becoming rich which automatically means the resources distribution is skewed. They are still relatively good com…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:55 PM
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I really don't think this is true. You have a very negative opinion of the average woman and I'll just have to agree to disagree with you. Mm I saw papers and screenshots. But sure, believe in whatever you want. It is hypocrisy no matter what anybody thinks. Dude.. facepalm. No, hypocrisy is whatever is written in the dictionary no matter what you think. Are you really that illogical. Go tell your professor on the exam that the earth is flat no matter what anybody thinks. Or something else that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:51 PM
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A meal can be cooked perfectly and someone could still not enjoy it. So yes in this context it works. Sometimes people just don't like something. Alright. Then they might enjoy that meal with a few ingredients changed - since different cooks with have different recipes. If they don't like it at all because of allergy or something and won't eat it with me, then they wouldn't mind if I eat it with another friend who likes it. Also, it implies that they never tried it more than once. In most storie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:46 PM
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Things can go perfectly and still not be enjoyable. Not in our context. Perfectly = enjoyable among other things. My point is that I'd rather have someone who knows what they like so we can figure things out more quickly and not have to stumble as much. I would still date someone inexperienced, and work with them, but it is a bit harder sometimes. N-count often has nothing to do with preferences from what I have found dating both types of person but knowing preferences in advance can save some h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:11 PM
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You're talking about a few posts maybe? No, most men are just disgusted by high count. And yes, when women choose tall men, most of them are disgusted by short men. Or fat men. Or small dicks. etc. Most TRPers think that their high n-count wouldn't make them undesirable for a long-term relationship, yet they believe that about a high n-count woman. That is what I consider hypocrisy. That's not hypocrisy, that's delusion if they are wrong. Or realistic thinking if they are right. In the end it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 09:05 PM
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lol in this very thread people would shame for wanting casual sex or for wanting specific sexual acts from SO. "Is relationship all about sex for you?" Please..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:58 PM
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They kinda did. It takes dedication and self-control to be in shape. Why do you think most can't get there? It's not as easy as just eating right for most people. We really have to go out of our way to not be obese, let alone being in good shape. Not gonna argue about it, just saying. Going multiple times a week to the gym for a while didn't do much to me. I need to do it for years I guess, maintaining that schedule and diet to be in just decent shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:56 PM
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The difference is that it's easy to read books for everyone. Being a slut = giving sex to some but not to others. Idk, it's like - it's easy to not share when you're rich? It's kinda shamed. Or it's easy to hurt those who are weaker - and that's shamed. The point is, there are different types of easy. Being a slut is not just about being easy, it's also about in-your-face type of doing, getting and giving things others can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:52 PM
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No, it's not ALL about sex, but it is ABOUT sex nevertheless. If not, then monogamy wouldn't be such a big deal, right? If it was just because of values and lifestyle etc, she wouldn't mind that I'd sleep with others like she didn't mind her casual partners slept with others, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:49 PM
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Again, your mind is one thing, but the dictionary is another. What you said doesn't make one a hypocrite. Just like that girl pointed out - she wants a tall man even though she's short, etc. Even simpler - a man can want a woman even though he's not a woman. What makes on undersirable is not being desired. If a person pursuing high n count is undersirable, then it's all good. If he/she is desirable then it's also good, right? Doesn't really matter what you or I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:48 PM
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Really? You've never done something that went perfectly ok that you didn't enjoy? I have had a guy slap my boobs back and forth saying "oh yea you like that" over and over. It didn't hurt me, he enjoyed, it was fine enough in the situation, but I didn't enjoy it at all. I wouldn't do it again. It was just not my thing, it was weird to me. Things fizzled out because of it. If a guy did that to me again I wouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't even want to attempt it. Why is something that a person doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:30 PM
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Well if you don't like, that's sad and could be a problem for you. But it doesn't make them hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:03 PM
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Anything higher than Age/2-9 :) Very known formula, it even was in the Bro Code. But really, anything that's closer to double-digits than to 0 is already. No boy dreams to be someone's number 10+. Sex. Sex being the contact between mucuous membranes = if dick goes anywhere inside - it counts. Yes, anal counts. Rape counts too. Nonconsensual sex is still a subset of sex. Guess, she can say the count is N, out of that N she was raped n times and only gave a blowjob m times? Anything like that work…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:56 PM
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But what if it wasn't rough? What if it went perfectly well but you just really didn't like it. Why should it be forced on you again? How can I not like it if it went really well? And it wouldn't be forced. I have a choice to say yes or no. If I trully love her and it went perfectly well before, why would I say no? The girls who haven't tried anything clearly already have limits or they would have tried more. It isn't about rehearsed moves it is about knowing what they like and bringing it and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:38 PM
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And once again, that's irrelevant. I was talking the same woman who's open to both. And it's easier to go with a girl on a date knowing that that same girl had casual sex with others. And I really appreciate your theoretical knowledge and input, but in real life things just don't work the way you're saying. Almost any guy can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:22 PM
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No, that was only the last sentence. Comparing attractiveness of LTR and casual partners of the same woman, btw, so your last sentence is a bit irrelevant here. No, it's easier to get LTR than casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:05 PM
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Yes in fact these are the reasons. She can say or thing whatever she wants. But we see the fact that getting sexual sex is harder AND guys who get casual sex are usually more attractive than guys who get LTR. I don't understand how you can't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 10:43 PM
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Ok so you admit not everyone has the same instinct. We are good on that now. Yes, not everyone is normal. But the basic instinct is the same. And has nothing to do with vasectomies. Of course all partners are different. That doesn't mean you aren't being dense by assuming everyone doesn't have strict preferences. Do you want a girl to peg you? Have you tried it? Saying no is completely fine. Saying you tried it once but didn't enjoy it is completely fine. Having a new girl try to force you in to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:59 PM
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No, I'm telling you about the same girl who had casual sex or will have casual sex, but not with you. This happens all the time. And what about girls who are talking to one guy cause it's serious, while sleeping with another one, cause they never had an exclusivity talk with the first guy lol. I'm not ignoring that most women don't want it. I'm talking about women who had it only right now. Oh yes they will LTR you. They will gladly go out on dates, receive flowers, get attention and talk etc. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:48 PM
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Yet, turns out that most women had it at some point. How so? In fact, no reason to consider big numbers. Let's take one girl. It's easier to get LTR than casual sex with her. With the same girl who has higher standards for LTR as you claim, it is easier to get LTR! Ask a girl, between her first and last casual sex experience, what constituted the bigger part of her N-count: casual partners or boyfriends? No, I'm sorry, but what you're saying has nothing in common with the reality. The same girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:15 PM
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Fucking feels good. People know how babies are made. So people are consciously going against their instinct? What about gay people? Not everyone has the same instinct. Are you just pretending to be mentally challenged? People also know alphabet and other things that they learn. It has nothing to do with instincts that are coded in genes. And what about gay people? They are the deviation from the norm. Their instinct coding is bugged and leads them to the wrong whole. That is if homosexuality is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:08 PM
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How is that double standard? Two different sexes have different sets of standards. Double standard is if some guys are allowed to do something others aren't. When everything is equal except for that one thing that's different. Slut-stud is not a double standard. It's just another indicator of sexual dimorphism our species have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:57 PM
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That makes very little sense. In this case, guys would observe and report that getting LTR is more difficult than getting casual sex, but it's the opposite of true. Getting LTR is way way easier. Because turns out that for LTR "appearance is not that important", etc. Seriously, are you saying that casual sex is easier for men to get than LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:56 PM
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So why are guys getting vasectomies if it is their instinct to have kids? Already answered that in the comment. Because they can't afford kids or don't want responsibility etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with the instincts, it's their conscious choice. Instincts know nothing about that too, they just make sure he wants to fuck women. And if she experimented to find out what she likes/doesn't like? Are you really that upset that a girl tried anal with an ex, hated it, and refuses to do somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:31 PM
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It's all good unless it turns out that you did give sex to other men without as much of investment, slept around, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:52 PM
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Ehh huge difference. Fucking multiple women when they are young and want you and try things with you, or only getting something consistent in your 30s and probably 100% monogamous and boring, because she's not like that anymore. All that KNOWING that other men can get and did get way way more and probably even from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:46 PM
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When you say things like this quote, it sounds like you think you know women better than women. No it doesn't. You're just trying to imagine that I have some thoughts I don't have just so you can argue with that. No, that's not what I'm saying and wasn't talking about me or women. We were talking about something else. So people who get vasectomies subconsciously want children? Not everyone has the instinct or craving for kids. Yes, yes everyone does. They have an instinct to insert their penises…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:34 PM
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It seems weird because it is. No one enjoys the chase. Guys enjoy the result. That being said, sex does feel more validating if he had to earn. However this works if and only if it's just the way it is with this girl. If she had casual sex with others but let this one work for it - it doesn't feel validating. It actually feels emasculating and very humiliating if someone didn't have to work at least as much to earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:04 PM
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Yet you think you know women better than a woman. Hmmm No I don't. I never claimed that. Not everyone wants children You are confusing what people consciously think they want and instincts. Not everyone wants water, some want soda, but the instinct is to drink, because your body knows it needs liquid to get water. Marriages to use someone are uncommon and often also done by men. Then there is an example of you thinking you understand women because of what RP tells you and not what actual women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:36 PM
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You don't get it, it really doesn't matter lol. Didn't you see those "studies" people would do with fake profiles? One of them used a pic of an obese girl that I wouldn't call cute - she still got a lot of messages and sexual offers. You never tried getting laid for reals, didn't you? I'm sure you can do it if that's what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 09:33 PM
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Most of the guys I know can get girls, a lot of them are not the cream of the crop You can't seriously be saying this. "Most of the guys I know"? So what? And most of the guys I know aren't like that, and then what? We're gonna count who knows more guys? Can't you accept that another guy feels and understands the atmosphere better than you? I mean your source is knowing some guys, my source includes a few-decade experience of being one. The hierarchy puts sex in that level only in relation to su…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:14 AM
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I knew them too and they're also massive hypocrites by my standards. I can't wrap my head around the mental gymnastics one needs to do to justify such a blatant hypocrisy. I'll help you. There's nothing hypocrite. They aren't going to marry themselves. So they have different standards for themselves and people they will possibly marry. Again, they don't have those standards for other people that they won't marry, too, not just for themselves. Say, other men or women they only want to have a ONS …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 08:51 AM
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Ooh so braggy but it's true lol Not as rarely as you think Perhaps. but way more rarely than you think. Not one of the most important; food, shelter, clothes, etc. Those are most important. I don't have any reason to believe in evo psych because nothing I have read proves it sufficiently. Most girls tend to date guys around their same attractiveness, wealth, and education level. This has been proven. Most girls aren't fucking the 1% who are loaded that is insane. You are talking about needs. I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:39 AM
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That's dumb. Who decides what's for the betterment of society and what's not? And there are companies that only hire women. And there're companies that tried not to provide services to gays (that didn't end well for them, even though they should have a right one would think). And no, child porn is a bad example, because it's not "hiring", children can't be hired. But you can make porn, say, with 18 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 06:28 AM
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I call bs, you can you just choose not to. you can make a profile online and write any scenario there, including them coming over your place and having sex with you without even talking/asking/doubting if you were interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:52 AM
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If it's your business, can you decide who you want to help and pay money?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:58 PM
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So..? You really aren't that good at it. Oh no I am, you just have poor writing skills. I have an official paper showing how good it is, no joke. We were still talking about quality. Most guys can get sex from time to time if they try. Yes sure. But very rarely and it's a problem for them. Yet again a lack of reading comprehension. I was saying that they have better lives in general. Not things that "bring more sex" because that isn't the only thing life is about for a lot of people. The money t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:12 PM
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The main point was that those "things" aren't "sciences". Other than that - yeah numbers might not be 80/20, but I think 40% is too low, too. The minority definitely gets more than half.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:04 PM
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And the best you can do to not let it happen to you is avoid all potentially dangerous situations altogether. Or what else should I do not to get one of those girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:02 PM
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Ahahah sure, I am the problem. What you did is right. Why would you even ask a question if you don't want to hear answers? Most men told you the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 10:55 PM
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But why are you so binary? There are people who aren't lazy video game slugs and who are moderately successful in everything, but getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 10:42 PM
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That is what I said. Not my fault you looked too far in to it. I meant if a guy isn't actually out having fun how is a woman supposed to know he is fun. No I didn't look too far. You literally said But if they aren't actually having fun how are the women supposed to know? We were talking about quality. The original post said only "chads" can fuck well. I disagree with that. Number of fucks doesn't equal better fucks. You don't have very good reading comprehension. I disagree with that too. And n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 02:01 AM
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Yes as in, if a guy isn't actually out having fun how is a woman supposed to know he is fun? A guy who sits in his house all day isn't fun to people who go out and dance/party/vacation. That's not what you said. Read the quote again. You said how she's supposed to know he's not having fun or that he wants to have fun. Not that he is fun. I even went back to read what you replied to again. And yes, that's not what you said. More lays does not automatically equal better sex. I have found that guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:36 AM
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Now I'm just not overcomplicating things, which is not needed right now. Yeah that's right. I'll tell you more, on the physics conferences everyone goes to sleep well before midnight unless they need to finish their presentations or something. Talk about similar interests lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:30 AM
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In a bar your hobbies don't matter. You get laid right there and then, or don't. Also, if she's into you, she will listen to you about DnD or whatever. Just talk about your major duh and suddenly turns out she thinks that's smart is hot (that is if you're already hot for her of course lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:16 AM
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My point is it isnt. If one guy is spending most of his time on his studies and another guy is spending most of his time out having fun it is noticeable. If a girl wants to go out and have fun she is more likely to choose the second guy. The sex just comes with the relationship. They had the fun in common first. If a girl is focusing on her studies, she is more likely to go out with a guy who understands that. This is what I have seen and done in real life. How come? Even I know that other guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:08 AM
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Yep. I'm not saying nerds don't go out or not have social life. They do. But they don't get sex nearly as often. My GPA never dropped below 3.87 or something like that. And I'd go out 1-2 times a week for long periods of time, and yeah there are dudes with 4.0 who'd go out. They'd still go home alone in something close to 100% cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:01 AM
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That's exactly what is meant here by "getting laid' - casual sex. It's easier to find a gf/wife. Say, after she's ready to settle for bb. Again, if it doesn't mean the majority can get laid no problem, then what was the point of your clarification? Ok, it's not only about looks. Add other factors to "attractiveness". Still, most attractive men get laid a lot and others don't. Nothing changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:34 AM
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no, it implies the alpha gets sexual best and/or gets sex without (as much) commitment required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:30 AM
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But if they aren't actually having fun how are the women supposed to know? oh bitch please. Of course they know. It's all over internet. And they see those guys going out or being on tinder or well not dating other guys => they are straight => they want to fuck women too. But it's not like women would sleep with them if they knew they didn't have fun, lol. It's irrelevant. Women sleep with who they find attractive or who they find useful. Also why can't the smart college guy fuck a girl lile a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:29 AM
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Because there's that famous study that shows that sucking multiple dicks make you a good relationship partner and the divorce rate is the lower, the more partners she had. change of preference is not, as long as there's also no increase in requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:17 AM
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yeah and that happens how often? If you do those things usually it means you don't have time to do homework and be good in whatever you major is while still having a high GPA.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:16 AM
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Getting gfs is not hard. How often would they get laid with new girls compared to girls and to above average dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:14 AM
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It means that the majority of men can get get laid, if it wasn't based on looks. Then again, whether it's looks or not, women are still more selective and there are still top 20% men who get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:14 AM
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Because you perfectly know that she wasn't a part of that group and no such group exists :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:12 AM
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If it didn't imply af/bb, if those guys they slept around with weren't all chads/alphas, then the odds are some of us would be among those guys. But no, it's not the case. Like said above, most are left out in the cold, while others get dozens and hundreds of girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:08 AM
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but many do and others do go from non commitment to commitment, but don't necessarily go from alpha fucks to beta bucks. it's the same thing. She may have had casual sex with betas and eventually commits to an alpha. Oh she commits? As long as she doesn't require commitment from him I guess he might be an alpha, otherwise... not sure you understand who's beta and who's alpha in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:03 AM
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But if you know a few mm's are poisoned, will you rather grab a handful and eat or just throw away the whole pack?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:00 AM
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But if you know a few mm's are poisoned, will you rather grab a handful and eat or just throw away the whole pack?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:00 AM
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he doesn't care. He just doesn't want me to talk about it Ahahahhahahahahah. D - denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:59 PM
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It's not just about her value. It's about giving it casually in the past, but requiring commitment and exclusivity later. You can find it crazy all you want. But that's what it is, if she has N greater than something - it's CC+ af/bb, if she had casual experience - same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:57 PM
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You describe the same thing. If she gave sex with no commitment but then decided she wants commitment, then it is af/bb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:54 PM
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what's few times a month? does it include all possible acts or just vanilla?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:52 PM
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why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:49 PM
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Can you guarantee he won't? Or most men won't? That they won't get a girl with promiscuous past (More than age/2-9 partners, let's say)? That the girl they get won't lie about her past? That she won't be done with her wild/experimenting phase with her exes and he won't get "oh I don't do it anymore"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:47 PM
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They try to use scientific method, but it's like using a microscope to nail. What they study and how they collect data is why they aren't sciences. sociology, psychology etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:41 PM
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No they can't. For all you know every single report is fake. And it probably is. Someone downplays the number on purpose, some forgot they had sex. Or doesn't count anal or oral or something. There's nothing you can do about it. we're Oh that explains it. you just can't accept it's not a science because you're doing it. Well, start with a textbook on methodology and philosophy of science. Then make sure to look the criteria of scientific theory, popper, etc. But seriously though, if you wanna do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:39 PM
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Which is not inherently bad, again, unless you're a conservative or something and believe women should abstain till marriage. No relation whatsoever. Nothing is inherently bad to start with. It's bad if you think it's bad, period. If you don't want to be a part of some slut's lifeplan and help her "win" - then it's bad and you don't wanna be a part of it. And again, she can do whatever she wants. And you have the right to not want a partner with the past like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 11:16 PM
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It's not bad, it's just no one wants to be someone chosen for stability and given less sex/affection. No one wants to be the safety web. We want to know what's going on and if we're chosen for excitement but just happen to meet her late or we're BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:48 PM
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It doesn't matter how they look. If you went all wild with nerd but not with masculine men as you got older, and required less - then it goes along af/bb very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:43 PM
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Not applicable here. It's all over the media how they are fuckbois and how they won't commit, and how "good guys" are good for relationships and how that's who you marry. It's in the movies, books, parents tell you that too. It's not like you didn't know that since the time you remember yourself, no. You just ignored that and went with whatever made you wet. Which is fine and what you should do. It wasn't because you didn't know what was better on paper (mileage, mpg, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:40 PM
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It doesn't matter and is mostly irrelevant to what we're talking about here though. The point is - he was different, and got her sexual best with less investment. No one wants to be her safe choice, plan B or whatever you call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:37 PM
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You mean, you slept with all guys? Or all girls slept with all guys? What college is that, I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:29 PM
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If it didn't mean that, then all men would get laid no problem. But it's not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:27 PM
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You mean, that self-reported crap? Or did someone actually follow them and measured how much sex they had?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:26 PM
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Absolutely not related. If you can't say anything relevant and just give up, then just say it or not say anything. No reason to waste time and space on something like what you posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:26 PM
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Thank you. Good to see it's not a lost knowledge. Studies aren't science. They use scientific method not to be complete BS, but they are still BS and dont' show much. I mean, they replicability is like 40%, far from 50% to say it's just random. It's almost as if the truth is the opposite of what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 10:24 PM
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Yes, it's pretty straightforward. No sex with a bro's ex.
/r/askTRP23/12/16 10:16 PM
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lol everyone, right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:02 PM
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Both my partner and I have had a moderate number of previous sexual partners (around 30 for each of us, we're both in our mid-20's) Hahah it's a troll. Don't feed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 10:01 PM
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Late 20s, moved to the US from EE in early 20s for the grad school. It's hard. It was hard there, it's hard here. Hard as in impossibly hard. I'm talking years long dry spells, 3 years being the record. And I wouldn't say I'm below average now (kinda gained weight after moving here, but not much overweight + gym gives some definition, shoulders etc) and I'm one of the very few white blonde guys here in the South with all the latinas around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:33 PM
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Well then? Don't say that the rights are equal when in fact they are not, even if they are legally. No need to try and emphasize the law part, it's not like those laws are universal like physics laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:12 PM
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Or if you hang out with top 20% men then you view of normal is warped. And it wasn't about normal, most people who do science and stuff have much more troubles getting laid than with the rocket science or whatever. Just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 08:10 PM
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That's a nice rant and all, but has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. If you want to say something to trp - go ahead and post it as a separate post. I am talking about this particular issue and showing you that you're delusional. No, most men don't have that option. And btw, women can have their needs met, it doesn't imply multiple men. No, it's not the worst thing at all. It's very logical. You bash people for doing something you disagree with completely. But you dream of having it sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:37 PM
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No, they are not. Not the strict definition of right anyway. Again, if someone is forced to do something and the other one is not, then the other one has the right not to do it, while the first one doesn't. Well it's crap that it is the prevailing law. That's all you were told. So a woman can abort because she's carrying, but the man can't do anything even though he will have to pay and face other consequences. That is BS. And if you don't see how it's not equal, then bad for you. Pick up a logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:31 PM
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I see men going out every week and leaving with the same group of friends they came with all the time. Very rare exceptions. Idk, I really think there's some apex fallacy or something in your description. Or it depends on the area too much, because that's not how things are where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:28 PM
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No, I'm not being generous. And yes they are on course with a gender imbalance. But there are other students on campus, you know. And people in bars, tinder, okcupid etc. Idk I used to do that a lot with no luck. Can send a pic or whatever, pretty sure I'm not much below 4-6. Then again, the result is not just zero, but both quantity and quality were so that you can't call it anything but undersexed. Then again, it's a small town, so the crowd is pretty much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:10 PM
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Nope, you are ignoring reality. Just because you're getting laid, doesn't mean others do. And especially I know what I'm talking about when saying science is easier. Oh I know a lot of people there being in those circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:06 PM
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This is wrong talking about men in 20s. And this has nothing to do with what we were talking about. about rocket science and getting laid. And if you dont; see it you don't live in reality. In different schools and different countries I see that or hear about that if I talk to people about that. But you can choose to be in denial, I don't care :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:15 AM
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And again, stop. It's not about the US. Ok so because roe vs wade interpreted it like that, it's right? pffffffft. No, I'm not emotional. I'm explaining you the context and what most people actually mean when they talk about rights and laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:58 PM
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Why? Most people with those can't get laid anywhere consistently or close to what others can do. And I'm talking about actual degrees and actual sciences of course, not bachelors of anything and not your social "Science", psychology, gender studies etc. those might be easier than getting laid, I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:55 PM
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No, "in a way" first of all. Second of all, not just having to lower but having to lower them to the unlowerable level where your dick doesn't get up. Yeah it's not. Rocket science is pretty clear and easy. You just study and get it. Getting a degree in science is easier than getting laid. Lol, most guys with high GPA have their GPA higher than their n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:50 PM
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Yeah, but were they asked in their 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:48 PM
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Not to the point when you aren't undersexed. ANd not talking about 10/10 models. But there's a lower boundary as of what guys are attracted to. Also, if they have to lower standards and approach that boundary, that already means they are undersexed. And, in a way, incel. Because they will be celibate if they don't drop the standards too much = they'll keep approaching girls they like who think they are too good for them or not approaching and waiting, but then no one will approach them because g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:44 PM
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Yeah that's my point, too. haha And being a student is pretty typical for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:40 PM
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We're talking about things in general, not your country, so get back on earth. Men dont' get pregnant, so? Then they shouldn't pay alimony maybe? If the child is made by both man and woman, how come only women have the right to privacy or whatever which in fact is the right to decide to get rid of the fetus or keep it, and men can only deal with the consequences and don't have any choice. And again, not only it's not just about the US. It also doesn't matter what laws are constitutional and whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:39 PM
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No, it's what I see. And what many people see in this place too. Most can't get sex just as is consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:35 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:32 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:32 PM
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In places, where abortions are legal, can both men and women have a say in whether or not it can happen, or women only? p.s. the world is bigger than states.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:27 PM
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No, it's = undersexed. The OP said incel and undersexed. Incel = not being able to get sex at all. And well most guys aren't able to. Because, well, they try to get it from the girls they want/think they have a shot in the first place. And other girls don't try to get with them. eh I don't think I should be explaining that. It's pretty obvious and was discussed here a lot already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:26 PM
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I think it's also somehow related to his PhD in math. Idk why, but I definitely can see that guys in stem or with grad degrees/in grad school are getting laid much less that what people claim for average guys. But it's kinda hard to say that most of them are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:08 PM
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I think it's pretty close to the truth. Just 1 question - isn't 7 is the number of partners in the lifetime? So, they don't necessarily have that in their 20s already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:03 PM
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lol. TIL that most guys I know are below average. Which I hardly believe they are. But their n-count is nowhere near 5-9 and they can't hook up every week or even every couple of months with a new girl. And they are not ugly or anything. Mostly students varying from bachelors to grad school/phd programs. p.s. you might need specify their lifestyles and stuff? Guys in schools seems to get laid way way less often than you claim. And they don't really look too much below average, and definitely are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:01 PM
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No he's right, he got you. Apply your own criteria to the results. Are you saying that most of them don't hard try enough? Why? they don't want sex? Why is it so that most guys have 5-9 partners in 12 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:57 PM
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Do males have the right to decide whether or not the abortion of their potential child will happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:30 PM
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Thanks. I tend to find them every now and then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:20 PM
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Well what I'm asking, is the act of coitus really the same? Like, if she just lays down and spreads her legs? That's not very arousing, imo. Idk how someone would get hard just for that. Oh GFE is an option I guess. I didn't know about that. And is that really the same experience? p.s. I'm not arguing with you or anything, I'm just wondering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:19 PM
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I say I can't form it. I know what I can and can't respect and love. No, I can't learn to love it or anything. If I don't have a choice, I'd rather not be a part of it and/or would try to sabotage it in any way I can. Yes, it's not equal already. But at least now even though I can get none, I can also get a non-slut. Who's at least expected to not sleep with chads while with me. Higher risk - higher reward. Amazonian tribes are walking around miserable I'm sure. No wonder they didn't develop muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:31 PM
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Well that's a bad point, that's what I'm saying. You have to just assume that a!=b, because in general it's the case. THey have different names for that specific reason. It has to be proven that they are equal, not the other way around. Logic argument aside, yes there's a dude who does the same. But no, not one dude for every chick though of course. However, you can't just say "oh men do that too". That's divorced from reality. Men don't get pregnant. Women and men have different consequences an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:28 PM
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Feminism can't be passing any laws. It's not their job. Their job is to dye hair and bitch about nonexisting things. Real feminists though would make careers in places where they could make a difference. Like becoming people who can actually pass laws and stuff. Especially now that opportunities are equal. Even more than equal - women get special treatment, programs, scholarships etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:24 PM
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Not really. I bet they can't have sex with women they want. Most young men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:22 PM
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Who cares what sluts think? :) Yes, used. Because getting sex for men is so insanely harder. Therefore, she could have sex with anyone but chose him. He got sex and didn't have to commit this time. It's a win for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:20 PM
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No they didn't. Most men can't get laid in a nightclub or whatever. Or are you saying men have this option? Like, are you saying I have this option as a man? And if you wanna talk brothels, are you seriously gonna say that men weren't seen as lower quality for using prostitutes? Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:19 PM
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I never paid for sex but I would imagine it's not the same act? I mean, usually you kiss and cuddle and all that. I think a girl who doesn't want to have sex with you, wouldn't do any of that and would more like let you use her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 09:15 PM
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She meant men, not people, I think. And yes, sounds about right. And late 20s as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:54 PM
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This is believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:53 PM
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Almost all of them. Almost all of them have less sex and/or with less women than they would like to have. Yes, you can be undersexed in a an LTR - she might not sleep with you that often and she most likely won't be okay with you sleeping with other women. And even if she is, it's not that easy for a man, as we all know. According to your definition? Still a very good chunk. In fact, most guys of that age that I know can easily have that long of a dry spell. The ones that are single at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:52 PM
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We shouldn't do anything. We don't convince men either. They do it because they have to, OP got it right. If a woman really wants to or needs to be in STEM or CEO, then she will. And there are multiple examples. If you somehow make it so that women have to compete to get men /to get laid AND her career/money will count and help - then there you have it. She will go to STEM or whatever. You don't need to convince them that they can do it, of course they can and they do. You need to convince them …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:48 PM
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Yes, how is it a "no"? I asked it to show that it makes sense for them to do it. It's not intentionally hurtful. It doesn't take that aspect into account. And you shouldn't be surprised. When someone has a choice between something hurtful to themselves and something hurtful to others, it's not that illogical and unexpected when they choose the former. Sure, because you already have enough money and it would be shitty of you. And it makes you a better person than people who are in the same condit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:42 PM
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mm are you trying to say that they should both be either smart or dumb or whatever? As in, a+c=d b+c=d ? But that's wrong in general case. And in our particular case because a =\= b. I don't think you are someone who should be talking about logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:36 PM
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Liberation from what and as opposed to who? Most men don't have the ability to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:34 PM
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Well to be fair you are the one who needs to provide any proof first. You can't just say something without any sources and then demand others to provide sources to prove it wrong. It's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:31 PM
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But most sluts do get married if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:29 PM
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That makes no sense. They already date slutty women, it's not like there are many non slutty ones. The thing is, that they want them to be slutty with them too, not just with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:28 PM
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Lol you can't be serious. They are all about special treatment and equality of outcome but only where women perform worse/less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:22 PM
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Actually doing something. Like, suggesting, discussing and passing laws in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:19 PM
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Ummm what is freeing is having the option to get drunk and have promiscuous sex if one so chooses. or study. or just go to bed early. at one point women's behavior was strictly controlled. As opposed to who? Most men never had that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 11:17 PM
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Not equivalent because in the first case you're getting used more than 0 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:56 PM
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No, that might mean that he can't get any without lying. Maybe he tried being up front before but it didn't work at all or not nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:53 PM
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Yes, they do nothing. Just attention whoring, that's all. Ok, so it was a man who started it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:52 PM
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Sure, I never said it wasn't hurtful. I just tried to explain why it occurs. But it's also hurtful when you choose other guys all the time. It's not like he likes lying, but what if otherwise you choose others. You're living him no choice. It's a pretty old argument. Same idea as when the resources aren't distributed uniformly and whoever has more won't share. Don't be surprised about what happens next. Even though yes it might suck for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:51 PM
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And many women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:48 PM
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So when women themselves approach - it's a shortcut and a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:47 PM
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No it means that he will do whatever it takes to get casual sex too, even if it requires lying. Again, you can't expect a poor person to just be okay with others being rich and him being poor. In Robin Hood legend, I'm definitely on his side. Yes she should. They do want that. How is that even relevant? There was no contradiction anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:46 PM
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Yes they do. Give specific examples and you'll see.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:44 PM
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What? That it's okay to cheat. You found reasons why it's cool. You found reasons why he would prefer to be used to pay off the house. I'm pretty sure that's not what he would prefer. And many other men told you. Ask more men IRL, I'm sure you'll get more similar opinions. In fact, because of this story, I will make sure to make a point of telling all my girlfriends, that no matter what happens I wouldn't be okay with them sleeping with other men any time after we met. And yes even after I die "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:39 PM
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lol wtf was that supposed to prove? They share the load of supporting children? But do they share the load of fucking women equally? Doubt it. Also - how is this beneficial, if I'd have no choice but to only fuck sluts and raise kids that I can't know are mine? And what about companionship and stuff? Living with a woman who gets fucked by everyone else? No, it's not beneficial. It's beneficial to women because she can fuck around and the support to her children is guaranteed. But I don't see how…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:37 PM
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I'm sure he would prefer if she went the "easy" way. Either way she broke her vow and is a crappy person. The right would be to take care of him and not fuck around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:33 PM
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Nope. The marriage never implied any frames or poor mate selection as an excuse not to have sex. It's been called a conjugal duty since the dawn of time for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 10:31 PM
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I don't think I was ranting at you. And ok there might be connotations, so what? People know about them well in advance, so it's up to them to take the risk of being called that word or not. But if they want to do whatever they want and have no consequences, then too bad. But they do have a choice and they know possible outcomes more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:13 PM
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It should be a basic procedure along with other tests. Shouldn't be a big deal where you need to specifically request it etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 10:05 PM
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I could use nigger, people in, say, Eastern Europe can use this word without any racist subtext. I mean, white people were slaves there, so what? It's derogatory because yeah it happens so that some men disapprove of sluts and are vocal about it. But if the only consequence of being a slut is being called one - then it's not a big deal. Quit it. Freedom of speech works both ways. You can do whatever you want. Some people won't like it and won't be quiet about it. And you shouldn't tell them what…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:48 PM
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It's not about a particular guy besides we don't know when this next bitch comes. And what makes you think the next "bitch" doesn't get played in the same manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:40 PM
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eh, so when a girl is attracted to you which means you're an attractive masculine man who attracts women, that is somehow emasculating? I don't see how any guy would think so, tbh. That's why I asked in the first place. Rejection can be emasculating. But approaching is the exact opposite of that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:29 PM
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Nah, I would use the n word before knowing anything about what it's seen as in the US. The world is big. And you especially can't expect people to know details like that, when they themselves use that word. So it seems as their endonym. The words are pretty old now. Most people use them because they hear them in the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:28 PM
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By who?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:25 PM
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that's illogical and doesn't seem relevant. I see no causation too. Slut shaming is not about not carrying condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:25 PM
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It's unfair because some get all and others get nothing. You explained it yourself before asking why it's unfair. Just because life works this way doesn't make it fair. The healer example is crappy. Everyone can choose to be a healer in a game. No one chooses to not be liked by the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:23 PM
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But demand creates supply. If that works and nothing else does then why would you expect them not to do it? When they see others hooking up and having casual sex . Are they supposed to just accept that they are worse than others and don't deserve those things? p.s. completely understand why it sucks for you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:20 PM
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They are probably different women.... Studies have shown Oh ignore that crap. That bs is not reproducible or easily verifiable. Doesn't predict anything new etc. It's not scientific, you might as well use studies from cosmopolitan or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:18 PM
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How is this emasculating? o_O
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:16 PM
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Hm, let me think. Should I use a long word with 4 syllabi that I might misspell or a simple 1-syllabus word that is easy to spell and pronounce. Hmmm... It happens to have connotations okay. It doesn't mean that we should be discouraged to use it. Why shouldn't it mean that others should see it for what it is and understand that it's on them to be offended cause it's their brains that connect that word with connotations?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:14 PM
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Em that's pretty much what I said, maybe from a bit different angle. Having or not having condoms has nothing to do with being a slut. Having casual sex does. So if women stopped carrying condoms and started spreading STD it only says something about them, not about slut-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:11 PM
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eh but it has. It's men who changed things. It's only logical assuming women had no rights => couldn't do anything but whine. And men were in power => they were the ones who changed things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:01 PM
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definitely now what you two are doing. It's funny how the only comment you answered to was the one encouraging your hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:59 PM
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That's how it looks to me: Besides assuming he prefers life to death, we're assuming he'd be happy to do it to provide an inheritance for his kids. His disability payments are rich enough to pay the mortgage, which she couldn't do on her income alone, and the house will be paid off in 3 more years at this rate. She's in CA where real estate is too expensive for most people. So she assumes he prefers life as long as she gets payments so she can pay off the house and get fucked by another man. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:52 PM
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It's not double standards if it's sexual. Two different sexes have two different sets of standards. The fear of being considered a slut also keeps women from carrying condoms, which leads to increased rates of STDs and pregnancy. Well it's not slut-shamers' fault that those women are dumb. Instead of not carrying condoms they were supposed not to take multiple dicks. They only had one job....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:18 PM
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It is just that. It just happens so that some men don't like it too. I mean, say, fascism, nazism, racism, cheating, lying are just terms. But a lot of people don't like those things. So should we say they are derogatory and shouldn't be used not to hurt feelings of people who are doing those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:16 PM
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So what makes someone a horrible person? Any behavior makes biological sense. That's why it exists at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:10 PM
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Incidentally, this is why mens' penis heads are shaped the way they are. To 'scoop out' the other guys' sperm and give his the best chance. Pump and scoop. No, this is bullshit. Some people think it might be for that. It's not proven. And it can't be proven right or wrong in principle. It's anti-scientific and stop spreading it pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:06 PM
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It's not a science. It could be logical, but definitely not scientific. The wall of text you cited is neither verifiable, nor falsifiable. It simply makes sense. Search for criteria of scientific theory - interesting and useful read.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:03 PM
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a set of principles that applies differently and usually more rigorously to one group of people or circumstances than to another; especially : * a code of morals that applies more severe standards of sexual behavior to women than to men* What the fuck is that? How is that "especially"? Men and women are different sexes and therefore have different sets of standards for sexual behavior. Do they even logic? -.- A double standard would be applying different standards to two different men or two dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:59 PM
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Exactly. So not worth it, and it seems to make more sense to cheat. You're saying why stay in marriage when you're miserable and neglected, but why leave marriage if that leaves you broke and miserable. And you feel used cause you work and give your money to another person like a slave lol. Nah it's a big question which one is better and the answer is not obviously to divorce like you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:43 PM
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I'm not affiliated. I only speak up when someone is breaking the rules of logic or common sense or to support something that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:40 PM
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again, not possible for many married men. Read the whole thread, others explained it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:08 PM
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Read again. I never said it's illegal to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 09:15 PM
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Probably not as succesfull, or probably hotter than you think. Or a rare exception and most not hot men are still unsuccessful? I mean, what did you think will happen when you say "oh I know one person who isn't hot but still successful"? That you suddenly disproved the general statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 09:14 PM
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What will be better? And yeah no, last statistics I saw would show that custody/child support results are pretty far from 50/50. And how such a husband would fare better? For some reason it's not illegal not to have sex with your husband. My body my rules and all that applies. If he insists - it's marital rape or something. And now that is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:34 PM
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Which is fucked up. Would he throw a book at a wife who stopped having sex with her husband? Anyway, what exactly would be the consequences in numbers please? If women get custody in like 99% cases and all that. Men get shafted either way, cheated or not. Yeah, don't get married is nice and all. But I thought now we were talking in the context of people already married. So why even bring this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:16 PM
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sounds like Kazakhstan to me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:13 PM
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No one counted those partners, so why even mention those "studies"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:11 PM
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No, that sounds wrong. Maybe they were put off by you. MAybe you aren't that good looking. Maybe the words you said were meh. Maybe you were "lucky" to get unexperienced guys (which is not that hard, since getting hookups is extremely difficult for guys). I'm sure if you were upfront that you want a hookup and will sleep with them, they'd come and you would have sex. Tried inviting them to your place and going to theirs instead of meeting for something? People meet for drinks, but if you don't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:06 PM
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Will it be worse though? I mean he loses half either way. But if he cheats he at least 1) gets sex, 2) maybe doesn't get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:03 PM
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