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Well just like men can not pay on dates, women can just not wear high heels, right? Why was it a problem if women could always just not wear those high heels? Hmm because one results in maybe not being able to earn actual money and one is being rejected on a date but we are decades behind the efforts put into women's mental health. And we need to work on that Child custody is barely even starting to be acknowledged as a systemic issue. I'll see it as being acknowledged when it is common knowledg…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 05:57 AM
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I mean office AC and high heels and many of women's issues aren't terribly serious either Well I don't care about ACs Women's heels get attention because it used to be unprofessional to go to work and formal functions without wearing a shoe that literally caused you pain and potential health issues for hours. Being able to perform in a work place without being in pain seems a bit more serious than paying for a date. Luckily these days they are mostly no longer required and now the answer is lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 04:24 AM
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I can agree that men face serious issues. I just don't think paying for dates is one. Just don't pay for dates. It's not that hard. And sure there are bad feminists. Heck feminism can't even agree with each other and often drag each other down because of conflicting ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 03:31 AM
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I don't use opinion pieces in newspapers to show misogyny is alive and well. I use laws and opinions of policy makers and politicians who have actually been voted in. News articles that involve court cases with opinions of judges and lawyers You know things that have actual impact. Want me to find quotes from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 02:53 AM
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Amazing. An opinion column from a newspaper. Not a feminist book or anything. You guys really see one or two opinion pieces and think it's the highlight of feminism don't you? But hey at least it isn't tiktok I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 02:46 AM
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Please show source and stats from feminists that defend men paying for dates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/26 12:25 AM
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do people realise most people aren't millionaires? Half of what we currently own is going to last someone maybe a couple of months? It's not exactly a free ride. Amazing financial incentive there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 10:01 PM
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Income difference is about 80/20 I'm not in the USA And no I don't believe in this whole incentive to break up. People who will leave you for a younger model would do that regardless of financial difference. If he was that shallow he's welcome to leave
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 05:53 PM
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I'm married. I did get a pre-nup but one that was fair and only protects assets I had pre-relationship. It's also to make sure his inheritance is secure (as his parents are better off than mine) Alimony is fine. In that event it's because he was likely unemployed because he chose to stay at home. He should be entitled to that. If he wanted to be unemployed we'd have probably divorced then and it wouldn't have been long enough to trigger alimony He could cheat and leave whether I was earning more…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/26 04:37 AM
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For the most part yes. But there would probably be new boundaries in place. We're the type of group where we could all share a room on a group trip. One on one dinner/lunch hangouts if other people can't make it. Once I can't trust the platonic intentions to stay platonic, I don't know if I would be comfortable to do that anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:12 PM
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If it's an issue with our families we wouldn't be married. I get along with my family and we share most of our values If for some reason my family dislikes my partner I don't think we would be together. If it's a personality trait then we are incompatible. I want my husband to get along with my family because eventually his family will be my family and my family will be his family. Either way works as filtering for someone compatible with me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 02:35 AM
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I guess I can see how that works and I can see how that works too. And I think I hat that's great! But I've also seen the pitfalls of it One of my friends wants to go and visit family and friends for Christmas, bring their baby to the beach, and do things in general as a family unit. Make memories with their kid. The husband has basically been acting like all those activities are chores. Because he's an introvert and a home body. She's actually admitted to feeling a lot of resentment over it. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:55 PM
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It would be for me. I don't want to be someone's point of connection with the world. And in my experience people who don't have friends of their own end up expecting me to be with them a lot or tend to not gel with my own lifestyle. While I spend a decent amount of time at home I have many hobbies. I play a lot of dungeons and dragons. I go out with friends a lot. I love cycling and hiking and the beach. I'd rather be with someone that's on the same page as me. Besides the people I know who abso…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 11:11 PM
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I wouldn't even say that the nature (as opposed to nurture) is important enough to be able to see daily Just that we might have some slight tendencies to go one way or another, but we have greater overlaps than differences. Our bell curves probably overlap except for the extremes at each end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 08:21 AM
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Differences? Perhaps. Significant difference? Not particularly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:39 AM
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To the extent of a biological and physical difference I do not believe there enough of a statistical difference between men and women that would warrant barriers to women achieving anything a man can do that isn't physical. I do not believe there is enough of a difference to be able to justify and social or cultural changes thar socially, culturally or economically enforce any set of gender roles at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:32 AM
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Hard power - force, fear and material strength (in this case money) Soft power - culture, values and diplomacy You know what being broke is in a capitalist society? A lack of material strength The win of the soft power of the church, which is to say that even if the woman is really miserable she can't leave. And that "enjoying being submissive" lasts until the husband gets angry or does something she doesn't like. But she's got no choice but to suck it up lose her "soft power" and get mistreated…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:30 AM
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Why is hard power "threatening and coercing"? Hard power is money. I just hire someone to do something. It's "hard" because it is power that control and that I own "Winning" at soft power only lasts until that person is grumpy, angry, sad or unwilling. When was the last time cash got angry at me? Men being abused is not a failure of hard power. If it's a situation where they can't leave due to financial issues that's not a failure of hard power. That's lacking hard power. If it's an issue where …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:25 AM
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So you mention great and amazing events of rebellion. Not in individuals. All the people I know with money have autonomy. They can leave miserable relationships. They can leave abusive families and partners. They can hire nannies and mechanics. But all I need to do is go to any conservative Christian community to see how often soft power fails. The wife that has to stay with the husband that cheated on her repeatedly. Because "forgiveness" but also because she has no money of her own. The wife t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:13 AM
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Because historically this difference in biology has been the rationale for the discrimination and oppression of women as a gender. Its why we weren't allowed to go to university or hold a bank account. Because we were naturally more nurturing so of course our place is in the home. I'm not a blank slate purist. I believe that there may be some gendered differences. I don't trust people, especially the class of men that are on this subreddit, to not use that to discriminate and oppress women. Cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 07:09 AM
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The thread went on a tangent about women wanting to be more masculine. Because women wanting to be independent is clearly a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:40 AM
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Stop saying that soft power is equal to hard power. I've seen soft power fail in many situations. Just look at all the older Sahm's who were cheated on or divorced by their husbands. I've yet to see hard power fail
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:40 AM
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Young children? Do we have proof that this all happens without a single iota of gendered streotypes from movies, parents, siblings and extended family leaking through?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:39 AM
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Permission is different from consulting. Compromise and consultation happens between equals. I refuse to ask for permission from someone who is my equal. Doctors are paid by the patient or the government to provide a service. Which proves my point. A life with no social power and all hard power is miserable but it's a life. A life with no hard power can lead to abuse, coercion and being financially trapped. Not to mention soft power can easily be taken away. Look at all the religious churches/te…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 06:38 AM
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Sure women have issues and contribute to issues too. Not the thread OP was taking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:06 AM
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Key word "I make my husband happy" whereas he has no requirement to make me happy to spend that money Key word permission Anything that requires permission is by definition inferior to one that doesn't "Pretty please let me take care of my family ?!?!" Fuck that to the fucking heavens. The day I ask my husband permission to do anything is the day I divorce. That's why hard power is powerful. Because I will never need to ask his permission for anything. Cash is king. Hard power is superior. Let's…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:04 AM
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I'd like to see your sources on these being inherent to gender
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 04:02 AM
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If the problem of the lack of female CEOs is the lack of ability then yes women need to get better If there are studies that show that women in leadership positions are judged worse or more harshly for the same behaviours as male leaders, If there was 1% of evidence that women are e bitch and men are assertive for the exact same behaviours, if there is evidence that is shown that women are perceived to be more emotional and therefore less capable, if there is evidence that is shown that the is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:37 AM
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I don't think biology has zero impact but if we're making statements like "men are more logical" and "women are more emotional" then you better show the damn evidence that men have superior logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:32 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 11:14 AM
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No room for any doubt. 100% accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:35 AM
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Even if men and women were different biologically that's no excuse to build laws and society determining what men and women should be allowed and expected to do. And soft power is soft for a reason. If I had cold hard cash I can do almost what I want when I want within the bounds of the law. I can move houses, buy things, change jobs. Elon musk is powerful because he has money. Soft power is pretty please can you do this for me??? And can be removed of that person is angry, sad, doesn't feel lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:26 AM
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I think the point is that men are not more logical. Violent crimes are almost always crimes committed out of anger which is an emotion If men were more logical then they should be committing less violence that women. But they aren't, they just think anger isn't an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 10:22 AM
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If we're making assumptions about how men are more logical it better be backed by science and evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:52 AM
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Depends. If it's "on average there are differences between men and women but this does not mean that this is universal or extreme?" Sure even a 5% biological difference would make sense But knowing OP and all the men here they would use it as a see! That's why men are leaders/ logical/ head of the household and women should be okay with being agreeable, nurturing etc. If we're heading to down that path I want 100% evidence. Because all of history has shown men can't be trusted to not take advant…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:45 AM
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I would need evidence that shows that women are inherently more nurturing and less logical than men that controls for sociological upbringing That means that there needs to be 100% evidence that growing up with gendered streotypes and culture has 0% effect on how men and women act. For another if the "feminine" is not rewarded with hard power (aka money in a capitalist society) or rewarded with hard power less that "the masculine" then by definition society views the feminine as inferior. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:29 AM
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Which asian countries please? Cause every Asian woman I know is uh... Strong willed let's say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:05 AM
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Why do you think women expect men to not be human? Lots of men who are insecure, indecisive and emotionally vulnerable are win relationships. The key is to be able to figure out who you're compatible with as if you express those emotions in unhealthy ways I don't need a decisive man. But also I refuse to have to push him to make choices and decisions. We're 30 not 13. I don't need a man free of all insecurities. But I do need a man who doesn't need me to constantly baby him or reassure him all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:59 AM
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They don’t have the luxury of demanding more from women. Only if you care more about finding a relationship than finding what you want. Lots of women refuse to budge from their high standards despite not getting any relationships that they want. Pick your poison so to speak Have to mask Why? Seems like you're filtering for a woman you can't be in a relationship with. Even if you succeed in a few dates, you can't mask forever Don't get me wrong putting your best foot forward is good. But if it re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 05:01 AM
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I also don't necessarily believe in gender roles. However I think that the way you have framed your post assumes that women need to demand the same from their friends as from their partners. Which isn't really the case. I don't have to live with my friends. I don't need to make life decisions with my friends. I don't care if my friends are attractive. I demand a lot more from a partner. If men want women to be more confident and capable they are welcome to raise that bar. But men, especially in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:27 AM
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Again, if that is the case then maybe you need to ask why men don't ask for more confidence or assertiveness. Women just don’t want to admit their role in dating implies they are more fragile I find this funny because in most cases women tend to be punished more when they don't conform to society's standards Women are generally cast as more annoying or bitchy when they are bold and assertive . With female politicians often having to project nurturing or motherly while being assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:00 AM
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Well yes. And it's very heavily ingrained. Even the most educated feminist I know would be horrified at the thought of a sister or daughter engaging in sex work. Sure they'd advocate for rights of sex workers and removing the stigma. But even if they intellectually know that there's nothing immoral about sex, they still wouldn't want that path for a daughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:37 AM
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For as long as men care about body count, then it's something to consider
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 03:29 AM
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I'm conflating confidence with "not being awkward" because that's essentially how it would come across in an actual conversation. What exactly makes a man confident when he approaches a woman? How can you tell a confident man from an insecure one? Well it comes across with how he makes you feel. Do you feel he has vibes that come off casual? Is the conversation with him good or is the conversation stilted? That's what it comes down to. How is this person making me feel. Confidence and charisma a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 02:37 AM
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"confidence", do you think she's typically referring to "someone who's not unconfident" or do you think she's referring to someone whose confidence is one of their most defining traits (i.e. someone exceptionally confident) Certainly not the latter. Lots of people are not exceptionally confident and manage relationships Most of them fall into "not unconfident" and "confident enough to not be super awkward when having a conversation with me" It's why the concept of warm approaching works better f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 12:09 AM
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Part of this is how people understand social cues. Most boys realize but the time they're in their late teens that attractiveness (social skills and looks) play a pretty good part in romance and sex. But many don't. Either due to Neurodivergence or due to poor socialisation. These are the guys who can't seem to understand that being "nice to me" and "caring" isn't sexually attractive. More women are able to "mask" than men, so I assume they're just better at looking at the unspoken implications.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:44 PM
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What exactly are the "masculine standards" that women expect from men but not from women? Most women don't want to be friends with other women who aren't emotionally stable or confident either. Unless they're a woman who wants "a project" or a woman who wants to control someone else. Neither of that is emotionally healthy Perhapsthe question should then be asking men why thet don't prioritize those traits in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:26 PM
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It depends on the friendship and the romantic relationship. You need both to be happy I think. But generally the sentiment of friends over romance is over three situations. One is that you have a new bf/gf that your friend group doesn't like. Generally I would say prioritize your friends. Not always as some groups are toxic. But if you're good friends, you're friends for a reason. Birds of a feather and all that. So why are they not gelling? The other is if someone essentially abandons the group…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:21 PM
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Well...yes Sexuality is a spectrum. Many women of the high socio sexuality exist. I've even met some. And obviously kinky groups will have more them. Duh. There are women who are not high-sociosexuality. Many of whom are people willing to do a casual or FWB maybe once or twice. Maybe more. But rarely regularly or consistently. There are women who are high libido, but only in relationships There are women who are average libido And there are women with low libido And libido and arousal can get co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 11:03 PM
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I see. So you think that people who are good at IT are essentially "more worthy" than people who are good at caring for people what’s stopping them from working the same job? Because they don't like IT? Because people are different with different strengths? Because lots of IT people are terrible at teaching and lots of teachers are terrible at IT. I think people ought to seek out partners that will earn similarly as themselves I see. So to you only money and income disparity matters? I'm the hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:36 AM
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Is it more effort and more stress? I think any IT job is less stressful than being a teacher. Social workers aren't paid very well. I think they have one of the most stressful jobs in society. What about people who work as cleaners being paid minimum wage? On their feet the whole day. Dealing with people's literal shit. But come home to a house they have to do more in because they earn less. How about nurses? Hospice care workers? Workers in psychiatric care?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:46 AM
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Interesting Most people I know met at university or when their incomes were about the same. Then one partner slowly out earns the other. Which is generally the man due to male dominated fields tending to pay more. For example a teacher and an IT person who met at university. One of them is at 100+ the other is .. definitely not. It seems a bit unfair if they both work very hard weeks but one of them has to work even more at home just because they earn less. I'd look at that relationship and be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 02:14 AM
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Depends. If we could comfortably live on one income sure. But they have to play the role of a sahp. And they have to be good at it. The same standards we have for sahm. Partnerships are partnerships so they have to act like a partner. I don't do casual sex. Give me 100% partnership or nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 05:48 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 04:18 AM
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That's not an extreme. That was the status quo before "the sexual liberation" I don't see it as a lose-lose situation. Many women get along just fine I had as much sex as I wanted. I refused men who didn't give me commitment and I got married Most people aren't socially bad enough to need the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:59 AM
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A stay-at-home dad who cooks and cleans is a "female role model," and a breadwinning woman is a "male role model," Disagree The idea would be that a child that idendities as a "man" will be able to know that men are perfectly capable of being nurturers I may not believe in gender roles, but I society does. For as long as the concept of masculinity and femininity exists then we also need to demonstrate healthy and non-toxic forms of it. How about it's harmful to the father? It's traumatizing to k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 03:57 AM
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It's better than purity culture and blaming women for not being modest enough People are allowed to have choice with what they do with their bodies. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 01:13 AM
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I agree that children come first before adults However I wonder if the impacts of being "fatherless" is mostly down to both income and a lack of a male role model. If a kid has an involved uncle or grandfather I don't see the harm
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:43 PM
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So why do men who live in apartments, rentals and who don't fix cars also not do the same hours then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 11:36 AM
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There's a difference between being attracted to women or being used as a check box But honestly? I think it's all to do with whether or not I feel happy, cherished and loved in a relationship. Am I being heard? Or does he disregard my feelings? Does he put importance on my opinions? Is he he controlling? Do I feel happy and content on a consistent basis? Or is he one of those guys that love drama (that's an immediate no for me) Is he rude or inconsiderate? Way I see it after years either the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 01:41 AM
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Being able to express your feelings appropriately and in proportion is also maturity Being angry and irritable for being denied sex in that moment is not particularly mature. Disappointment I can understand, but anger and irritation over sex? Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 10:15 PM
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And no offense but if someone gets angry or irratiable over sex then I really don't want them to be around me. Disappointment is allowed. It just also will be a turn off for any sex after. He's "allowed" to express his disappointment. And in "allowed" to feel so turned off that it becomes a bigger hurdle And expressing irritability and anger over sex in the moment is absolutely off the table. That's just immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:43 PM
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That is clearly not what OPs post had highlighted as it focused specifically on women's materialism in particular. But let's focus on your point instead about women seeking men with good jobs You are right that there are more women looking for a sugar daddy or a man richer than them than the other way around. I don't think it's biological however. I think it's because culturally we still have the idea that men are providers. Same reason we have the idea that women are nurturers. It should be cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:36 PM
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In the moment? No. Not really. Sorry. During a neutral non-sexual time where we can discuss what's happening and what's causing the issue? Yes But he can't be angry or act rude or act like sex is more important than what the issue actually is. Ime the only time it happened to me was when I was overwhelmed, stressed and resentful. Luckily we worked it out after 6 or so months and once I was happy again we were back in the 2-3x a week stage. But until the root cause got addressed the idea of sex k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:27 PM
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If a man expresses disappointment it turns me off If they express displeasure or irritability it makes me angry. If I'm angry not only will sex be off the table that day, it will be off the table for a while. If they get angry at the a while, I get angrier and it becomes longer. Sex is mood dependent. If I'm relaxed and happy it will happen often. If I am not it doesn't happen at all. Removing expectations and just sort of being cuddly, affectionate and romantic with out the expectations of sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 09:13 PM
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I'm which case conservatives and trades should all shut up about women first before women shut up about men. After all women being lesser creatures who's needs have been ignored or demonized for centuries have been mainstream thought with actual consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 06:46 PM
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OP's post "women are more materialistic and status oriented than men" That's an overarching statement. He reasons that that's why they're materialistic in dating too. But last I checked being easily influenced by trends and being status seeking is pretty prevalent in men too. Just because things manifest differently doesn't mean that it's not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 05:23 AM
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Yes. I wonder what happens though if you take away child support, taxes to support children, the sick and subsidizing women in low paying jobs that are important like social work or hospice care. Not to mention women who don't work or work less to raise children. Hmmm. Way I see it if we use that argument, we should remove any all taxes and support things that benefit anyone but the individual woman. I really should start a campaign to get women to quit care jobs and education. It should stop be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:58 AM
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According to this sub men built the world and women are a net drain in society. Until men on this sub stop using this as an arguement I'm going to assume that they thing childcare, healthcare, social work, and elderly care are less important than "men's work".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:54 AM
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Less broad ideologies? Clearly OP has no idea about how movements and ideologies work. By definition movements and ideologies have differences and splits. That's the whole point It's why there's several sects of every religion It's why Chinese communism is different from USSR communism It's why communists turned and killed Marxists. It's why every democracy is set up differently Show me a movement and I'll show you it's differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:48 AM
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Ops argument is that women are more materialistic and easily seated by trends. More so than men I argue that this is not the case. It just shows up differently with men. It's just that men think their materialism and trends don't count for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 04:45 AM
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I'm not a man, so that's not up to me. Bodily autonomy is a principle I believe in for both genders. For the record i do not believe anyone is obligated to mess with their hormones or body. And no one is obligated to have sex Again bodily autonomy. I just think the if your libido changes and you know it's causing issues, then part of being a partner is making the effort to address it. Relationships are a two way street. People should be in it and handle issues in good faith. And that includes ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 02:47 AM
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So don't date those women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:37 AM
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Let's put this another way. Men taking T suppression would also fix this. But I think we can agree that would be fairly insane to fuck with a man's hormonal chemistry... Because the issue isn't his T? The issue lies in a change of the woman's libido? If he had a change in hormones that caused him issues, I'd probably say look at his hormones instead. Do you see my point? Women's natural hormonal changes are pathologized as bad for the relationship while a man's hormonal make up is beyond touchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:36 AM
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So what then? That depends on the couple I think for some people if they see genuine effort but its still fully dead then they're okay with that. For some people it might warrant a separation That's a question for each person and relationship It also depends on the extent of the change. For some people fully no sex forever might be a deal breaker but libido that allows for once or twice every few months might be okay And it depends on the higher libido partner's handling as well One of the thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:54 PM
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It's not about women's body changes making them broken. It's about making the effort to keep the relationship healthy for all sides The fact that your first thought is "sex for men" Women enjoy sex too. And like it or not mismatched libidos hurt a relationship. The idea that sex is only for men and that women shouldn't try and make an effort to figure things out is a bit sus Men have to make the effort to not be assholes and act entitled when talking about sex But women also need to make the eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:39 PM
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Then I think as part of being in a healthy marriage then she should do the work to address those issues It's a very emotionally loaded discussion and the way men act about it really does not help But most marriages and relationships do include sex as a part of it Sex is a minor part of a relationship...until it doesn't exist. And suddenly it's the big part of a relationship. Recovering from a health issue is usually temporary. So is stress and lack of time. Exhaustion from daily life can be miti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:39 PM
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I think from a purely aesthetic point of view it doesn't affect anything However it's associated with men who like other men. So I would assume he was gay and not into women at all Based on that assumption I'd want to be friends with him
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:29 PM
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And prove to me that men are less materialistic than women Studies on spending need to exclude all household spending and expenses. Exclude spending for children. Exclude everything that is not solely for the benefit of the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:20 PM
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And? I thought all men were productive, not like wahhhhhhhmen
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:06 PM
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Yes because all men have jobs and don't become NEETs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:58 PM
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Oh yes because women don't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:52 PM
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See men's spending is superior spending. How many men have a truck that they don't need? Or a 4WD that only gets driven to the supermarket? They went off road once 3 years ago! It was worth it! Or the need for a super flash gaming computer that they built themselves Or a 3D printer that cost up to a thousand But hey women spend on a couch, a nice restaurant, or a slow cooker
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:01 AM
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I highly doubt women are more materialistic. I find men just as materialistic, they just spend it on "legitimate man stuff" and not "inferior woman stuff" Men will buy a gazillion video games, spend on cars, high end computers, high end computer parts, expensive man hobbies like magic or 40k etc etc. Every man I have ever met who claimed to not need "stuff" spend oa good chunk of their paycheck towards tech or nerd things. Or golf. But women buy things like clothes, home decor and nice food. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:01 AM
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I think there's a couple of double standards and societal expectations at play. One is that there is a stereotype that looking good and caring for your appearance is a feminine thing. So when women police how their man's looks, it's framed as "men can't dress nicely". It's less malicious. The stereotype of bubbling Dad who thinks shorts are acceptable to wear at a wedding is a thing. In which case when do men police women's looks? Generally there's an assumption that men who do this are generall…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:00 AM
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It's not lying or gaslighting The person who approaches is the person who wants the relationship to happen more. That's all it is. Men and women don't like awkwardness or confrontation. Approaching is not fun for anyone. If you flirt and they flirt but they don't do anything. Well either you make the move or you accept that it won't go anywhere. Is there a socially gendered expectation here? Yes there is. Women will probably wait for a man to approach for a variety of reasons But also if a man d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:39 PM
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How about "just don't have children" A Household with a lazy man demonstrates to children that it's okay for men to be lazy. Boys should be raised better Girls should grow up to know those men shouldn't be tolerated and to divorce and break up with men who treat them unfairly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:28 AM
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Please explain where you have seen this happen? I'm pretty sure that this scenario is more "if you can't find a man who will do the housework, be a parrner and be an equal parent you might as well go to a sperm bank" It's not terrible advice imo. If you want a family but you have it found a man that you want, what's stopping you from a sperm bank and hiring childcare? It's not about "cheaper" it's what's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 03:12 AM
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I suppose for me it's not about "throwing down the money" I operate on the condition that I can only control myself, not others. Paying for myself means I am in control. I don't feel bad about what I ordered or have to order the "cheaper option" or navigating any of that. I am paying. I am in control. I am in control. I can leave when I want because I paid for myself. I can stay if I want. I don't need to navigate a discussion for it. I paid because I believe that as a feminist men are not provi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:27 AM
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As always people need to remember a few rules. Approaching in real life can either be a cold approach or a warm approach. Cold approaches can feel like cold calling. I don't know you. I wasn't expecting to meet you. I never even had a conversation with you. And now I have to answe if I want to date you. Warm approaches, where there is an established connection will be received better. However, it is anot a guarantee and will depend on you, the person you are approaching and the venue. As always …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 12:12 AM
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No it wasn't Tro has always been a lot of evo-psychology and weird jargony terms. TRP always struggled with nuance and talking to women like they're humans instead of things to be dissected
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 11:29 PM
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Do you know why people have "high social status?" Because they act in ways that make them be liked socially by their peers Oh my god women like likeability?! What?! How on earth?!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 08:44 PM
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Women talk about hot men all the time. Men take offense and get the most braindead "only looks and status matter and wahmen only care about vagina tingles" Women end up trying to explain there's a lot more than just that Men go vagina tingles! Women give up and stop bothering. I'm willing to have an honest conversation but if men aren't then there is no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 07:03 PM
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So you don't try and change anything? You just sit and be grateful? I don't think that has accomplished anything throughout history. You can be passive if you want. Doesn't mean the rest of us have to be
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:49 AM
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You're just being obtuse now Food is good. But I don't have to be grateful to the person giving me food is they are a bad person. In fact what I should be doing is be angry enough to get rid of the system that is allowing them to be a bad person. A woman forced into marriage should be angry about it. She should never be grateful that her husband is "a rapist that feeds her" she should be angry that he's a rapist at all If enough people are angry to get rid of the system then that's a better outc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:28 AM
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No. A victim should never need nor be obligated to be told to be grateful to a rapist. Screw that. That's the mentality that keeps people down. If we were "greatful" for that we would never have fought to make marital rape a crime. If we were grateful for that we would never have gotten the vote Never ever be grateful for scraps. Always fight for good and never be grateful for evil Otherwise you're just letting the bad guys win
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:55 AM
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The idea that women have to be grateful to not be treated as lesser people or to not be slaves seems to be incredibly dodgy Almost like a "western women should be grateful they aren't under the Taliban!" Bet you some Taliban man's wife got told "be grateful I only beat you twice a day!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:52 AM
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I mean that's how you choose to perceive some of that, but that's fine. Personally I think that making me happier with you than without you and vice versa encompasses a lot of things. Do we vibe? In the future can we talk and laugh with each other everyday for the rest of our lives? Because that's kind of part of relationships When we live together would we fight about money? Are our financial goals aligned? Are we on the same page? Because finances is a big factor in what makes people fight and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:46 AM
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It's not about transaction Its just why would want to be with someone if being with them makes me feel worse than I am when I am single Literally that's all it is. Bare minimum, on a daily basis, I have to be happier with him than without him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:23 PM
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Source for women having 0% contribution in current innovation and research? Maybe they should have been smarter in the past and allow themselves into universities. This is.... Really not making me want to love maleness. In fact it's actively making me feel incredibly negative about men. Congratulations for going against OPs post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:33 AM
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Why are men incapable of having a normal conversation? Ime first dates are Man: I'll take care of the bil Me: that's sweet but I'll pay for myself Man: if you're sure we can split/ I insist Or if I wanted a second date me: if you get this one, I can pay for the next one if you want a second date Man: sounds good Look how easy and non-confrontational all this was! And no one demanded anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:25 AM
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Not what I was arguing. You claimed that being better at making things and inventing things is a a male trait I'm saying you can't prove that considering women as a gender weren't even allowed into universities for a good amount of history. So unless you can prove that, don't claim it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:22 AM
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Look around you and point out what women invented. You’ll find the answer. If that is your answer then I would then say that you cannot make that conclusion until you have created a society with 0% sexism and proven 0% barriers to women inventing anything no female child in the entirety of the whole society was ever told that she was 1% worse at science or math than boys. Whether implied or explicit. Across her entire life When we reach that then you can claim men are "better at invention" based…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:11 AM
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If men don't spend an equal amount of time working both paid and unpaid as me, and think being in a partnership is "punishment" for earning more I will be single. I am the higher earner in my relationship and I still contribute equal household labour because that's what it means to be a partner. If for some reason my husband starts earning more but refuses to do the same he knows I'm contacting the lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:24 PM
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At the moment excellent! I don't think we should be increasing exponentially. But in terms of replacement rates, if we really want it to happen we need to lessen the opportunity costs of having children. Most people who are late 20 - mid 30s who are partnered want at least one kid. But most people also are delaying children or having less kids than they want. This is because kids are a want not a need. And people prefer things like a particular lifestyle over children. So how do we get people to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:31 AM
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The two income trap is a lifestyle choice that people make. The cost of living itself (the money needed to buy groceries, petrol, electricity) is caused by systems prioritising profits for corporations and landlords over the life style of the average earner Whereas the desire to maintain a particular lifestyle, such as the middle class, is a choice people make. Does that mean single income earners have a harder time getting that desired lifestyle than double income earners? Yes. But that in itse…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:36 AM
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But who cares if men don't partner up with women? It's the economy! Why can't you just sacrifice for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:16 AM
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For the thousandth time that is not the case https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jors.12336 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy Wealth inequality and cost of living increasing coincided with the world's increasing number of billionaires and trillionaires But men want their tradwives and bangmaids so they have to blame women somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:37 PM
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Either way the one who wants the relationship/sex/ casual more is going to have to be the one who puts in more effort to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:15 AM
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Men who want a relationship need to do something to get a relationship Women who want a relationship need to do something to get a relationship. Often men seem to want relationships more than women so the advice to be active is directed to them more. Men also tend to be more willing to approach women than be single. Women not so much. That's it. That's the market. Is there some gender role stuff around? Yes. Some men don't like it when the woman doesn't let them chase. Some women specifically wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:56 PM
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Social constructs are part of evolution but that doesn't mean that the current social constructs are always good You can call it nonsense if you want, but acknowledging that things are not set in stone means that gender roles aren't always biologically hard wired And it removes stigma and barriers from those who don't follow stereotypes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:47 PM
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Honestly both the coworker or the friend/hobby group works It's not a red flag so as much as a way to check that the guy has generic social skills with women. The sexist and misogynistic will show up during the relationship regardless. Best way to filter that is to bail any time he says or acts sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:35 PM
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It's not a waste of time and it's not necessarily impossible. At the very least weakening it and making people admit that it's a social construct and not this biologically hard wired thing would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:09 PM
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Yes but socialisation in childhood probably plays a part in how we are later on in life. I just think we should abolish the concept of femininity and masculinity. Just let people be whatever they want however they want. I don't see why this is such a horrible thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:51 AM
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Not really. People still raise girls to be feminine and boys to be masculine We still have "scripts" to adhere to in society. We still have the concept that femininity is nurturing instead of it being a gender neutral concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:41 AM
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I think redpill being conflated with traditionalism and being taken to the extreme is the problem here I disagree with almost all of the way redpill sets it's beliefs. Generally because I think evo-psychology is full of utter crap. And because every redpill man I encounter are bitter, angry incels. But RP could calm down and talk in a way that's nuanced instead of wahmen evil, all women are like this no exceptions, last minute resistance type stuff they wouldn't get so much resistance And I'd th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:15 AM
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Often when we talk to each other it's with the hope that you can be reflective of behavior And exactly how does the redpill mantra of "choose better" show hope of "reflection" ? Because often they're aggressive, joyfull about a woman getting her just desserts or interrogating her about how she probably just had vagina tingles. So no. I do not believe that often we talk to each other in the hopes of reflection. It's often with glee about someone else's suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:03 AM
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It depends on the information Most women I know are not with abusive men. But there are asshole men or incompatible men Most of the ones prone to asshole men tend to be because they themselves are assholes. (I grew up in the bad neighborhood. In most cases they're all bad at relationships). And there are women in relationships who get hurt because of incompatible men And it's often disagreements over things like lifestyle choices or differences in how much effort or affection people want to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:01 AM
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It depends on the objective, the phrasing and the information available. For example a woman find out a man cheated on his past partner and then gets cheated on. What are you aiming to do? Are you aiming to help her choose better next time? Then it might be "girl, this is why cheaters are bad news. Next time, don't give one the time of day" Are you aiming to hurt? "Your fault. Choose better" Let's say a woman gets pregnant and the man doesn't want any part of raising the child. Are you aiming to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 01:18 AM
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Yes to both Let people just do what they want, how the want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:26 AM
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I think it's a fair statement, though fairly defeatist. I think not everyone is good at first impressions, for a variety of reasons. And a lot less people are good at first impressions online. And a lot of people have attractions that don't respond well to online dating (like me. All my relationships ended up being through social circles. I never clicked with the apps) In an environment where many relationships are based on first impressions, some people are going to struggle. I do think that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:32 AM
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That's not fully true. A lot of people click and find partners better when meeting organically. There's a reason one of the easiest ways to meet partners was during school or university. You just met a lot of people who were mostly around your age and could easily form bonds. It's a lot harder to do that online. Another is that first impressions do matter. And attractiveness helps in that respect. There are people who shine after you meet them two or three times. And there are people who general…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:08 AM
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No. Men are better today But also women don't need men as much as they used to. And there's a lot more awareness of how shitty past men and systems were. No more excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:07 AM
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Maybe. Maybe not. The thing about kids isn't just "giving up a career". It's the fact that you give up things like free time, socializing with your friends, have to stress about money more and deal with 24/7 screaming, crying, vomitting and shitting. Not to mention the sleepless nights. Not to mention if you have even one issue or stress in your marriage/partnership a baby will exacerbate all those issues And that's if you have a partner who's an equal parent. That's not counting the whole "I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:48 AM
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Because you'd still have a job after divorce. If you don't have a job you will have a harder time in getting back into the job market. Even if you do get back in you are at a disadvantage. And unless you married very rich (which is not likely) then alimony isn't much Athe average man can't pay enough alimony for it to compete with actual income
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:59 AM
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PPD men: men and women are different! That's why men like barely adult virginal women and women like older experienced men! Also PPD men: women don't have same sexuality as men. Women must be broken and wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:57 AM
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Or they can leave and not stay with the man Not sure what the issue here is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 11:29 PM
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Pay you for what? Not my fault you can't finish a sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:01 AM
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How exactly is it a rip off?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:19 AM
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Okay In that case men shouldn't complain if women choose to not date them, leave or divorce over it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:09 AM
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I don't believe so Many single women are also lonely. However there are a few protective factors at play. It's generally accepted that on average women are better at keeping their social connections. And those social connections tend to be more emotional than men's. Which is to say women talk about their feelings and issues to their friends. What that means is that women who are single are having at least some of their emotional needs, met. Women also tend towards lower libido than men. So sex i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:55 AM
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Now do how many murders and killings men have done total vs women have done total. The specific scenario was femcels vs incels. Femcels can't murder their own children. Since by definition they aren't having enough sex to give birth to any
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:11 AM
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Paid work is overall more burdensome on an individual. I disagree. I'd rather do my paid work than cook or clean. But some people have different tolerances for different types of work. My main issue with this arguement is that men (and society) value paid work more than unpaid work. While still insisting that women be happy with doing more unpaid work even if it's not as valuable. Just because that's the way it's always been. Just seems like a raw deal no matter how you look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:50 AM
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Part of it is cultural I agree. But also a lot of people like the idea of coming home to someone they love. To have someone to talk to or chat. I've heard from a lot of older single people that it's generally nights when it gets harder. When you come home from an activity and then there's just sleep, chores and nothing else. The flip side of course is that it's peaceful. There's no responsibility and you don't have to deal with the other person. I think most people would be happier with a good r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:48 AM
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This guy: women made a decision to sell their bodies. They can choose not to. Also this guy: men can't control their horny. So it's not our choice to pay for sex work. I present to you the more ethical gender everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:45 PM
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I think the problem isn't even with "good men" or "good women" I think the truth is that most people aren't compatible with most people. And good partners look different for everyone. I know someone who's definition of a good partner feels suffocating. Because they're the we do a lot of things together type. But they're happy. But I find the man suffocating as all hell. But she loves the fact that he always wants to be around and she reciprocates by going to his things. Meanwhile I want a man th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:08 PM
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I have never met a woman who wanted a full provider. I think the idea is that if you want a woman to of more housework and all that stuff, you better be making full provider money. Otherwise no deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:37 PM
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No one is saying that she gets to retire with now Just that it leaves her in a vulnerable position Then where are the women who are willing to accept the sacrifice when men want to be the primary caregiver? Lots of reasons. Male dominated fields then to earn more, so often if someone stays home it's the woman Women primarily need to take time off work after pregnancy. Easier to maintain the status quo Cultural and religious reasons why don't women agree to be workhorses and slave over a hot tax …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:56 PM
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There are always the gold diggers and visa diggers among the population If transactional is your thing then go for it. I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:32 PM
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As a filipino woman no one cares. Most rich/middle class city dwellers don't like them. Some date foreigners but they're generally foreigners that would have partners in their own countries too. Not losers. The amount of complaints from passport bros that now you need to find some rural provincial woman to escape feminism is the funniest thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:13 PM
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I knew a woman who was a stahp and who's husband cheated on her. If she divorces she has barely any retirement, a 30 year gap in her resume in an economy where people making 6 figures are applying for admin roles. And getting denied. Oh and cooked and cleaned for 30 years The man has experience, a job and mandatory contributions to his retirement. But heu I guests the man was the one who took the risk here. Not her. And I've never heard of permanent maintenance in the country I've lived in eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:09 PM
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The problem isn't about the current state. It's what happens if the marriage ends. That just leaves the woman out in the cold. If she sits all day and you divorce early you won't be paying much in alimony. If she does her housework and childrearing for 20 years and gets divorced she leaves with almost nothing. And no career to fall back on. And no half marital assets isn't going to get her to retirement unless the man is a millionaire. You can say that it was her choice to make herself vulnerabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:18 PM
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Personally my vows did not include for richer or for poorer My vows were about partnership. Because the person who stops acting like a partner first is the one who broke the spirit of the vows. Not the one who leaves. Not the one who files. The person who stops putting in the effort to be a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:59 PM
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There's a difference between believing you are average and having standards. If a below average woman only wants a man who treats her a certain way that does not mean she thinks she's above average. She would just rather be single than have lesser standards. Yes there are women who are arrogant. There are also men who are arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:42 AM
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Yeah see that's the thing. When I was younger I wasn't wanting anything serious in the sense of "I want to settle down, marry you and have babies with you" I wanted a relationship in which we are clear that we like each other, are a couple, expect couple things from each other and are generally "going steady". If we move in together we are "going steady" but splitting the room and the groceries. Maybe if we keep going we can think about marriage or more long term commitment. For some reason peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:19 AM
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Redpill will say "women are shallow and care about status and income. Being a good guy doesn't matter" Which obviously isn't true. For most women being a good guy is important. It's being a good man with a combination of other attributes. The fact that you didn't realize that what l said was something redpill men say proves that the issue isn't "believing in blue pill lies" It's that they zero in on one or two things and then take it to the extreme. It's like "women listen to their gut and sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 04:14 AM
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One of the things I find (IRL) is that most women would agree that income, looks and social status do influence dating. And they are part of attraction. The problem is that redpill is abrasive about it and thinks it's only income, looks and status. If I said social skills, charisma and competence are attractive to women would you agree? Because social skills, charisma and competence are all aspects that make up someone's "social status". Men like social status too. They're just in denial about i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:19 AM
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I see your point but I think it's overblown. At least where I live There's a lot of meet up groups and sports groups still going around. Quite a few have free entry or $2-5 entry. A lot of them even have casual "social drinks" which if you buy one drink is $5USD (I think. I'm not in the US). A lot of people I know complain about not having a lot of friends. At work I always hear "oh I only have one or two" or "I'm jealous you're always have things to do with your friends" But everyone also knows…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:50 AM
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Is it just men? Because I don't think men are inherently more predatory than women. More violent yes, not necessarily more predatory. Lost of cases of female school teachers having inappropriate relationships with their male students Look at the prime minister of France I also think that partially women have been socialized to look at older men than younger men. Particularly due to gender dynamics. Women's sexuality were also generally repressed. But now you also have cases of cougars looking at…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 10:38 PM
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If I am wrong and there is more that you believe men expect from women as commitment, by all means do share, if I am wrong I would like to know it. My perspective is based on couples who live together, which often means women have a higher burden of chores and house management. I honestly don't care what men expect from women or vice versa Don't like what you're getting? They're not improving your life? Break up. I don't frame is as do women/ men "deserve" commitment because it puts a moral fram…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:48 PM
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Commitment is almost universally a big price the guy has to pay in the form of time, money, investment, and effort, while she gives very little back in return, ant at any point she can take all he gave her in his commitment, and just up and leave him for another guy within the week. In return most of the price of commitment that women pay is to just not fuck other dudes The price of commitment that women pay is to not just fuck other dudes? I disagree with that but if that's your perspective the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:39 PM
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I find it happens every time a girl breaks up a situationship Even ones where they were explicitly casual. Girl wants more Boy does not want more. Girl breaks it off Boy acts like she dumped him My personal favourite was the guy who said that she was leading him on. He was the one who didn't want a label.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:14 AM
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Then they can find someone else for easy sex. Way I see it if you want casual or situationship, you can't get angry at someone for treating you casually. That's sort of the point of casual. He owes her nothing. She owes him nothing. If the relationship didn't mean anything to a man, he can't really be angry about the loss of a relationship. Because there wasn't one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:43 AM
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Maybe, but then I don't understand why they get so angry when people want commitment and leave the situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:38 AM
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Being honest? Most of women have been told that men hate commitment and that it's so uncool to want a label. I find that this has gotten much worse as both sides avoid the "what are we" conversation. Because they don't want to look uncool or they're scared of confrontation. The only solution is that we need to stop caring about what's cool and have the courage to have difficult conversations. If a man says he doesn't want to put a label on it? Take it as a no he doesn't want a relationship. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:19 AM
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Once again redpill has arrived to the wrong conclusion based on the inability to look at nuance. Most women do not want to make all the decisions all the time. And most women do not want to be told what to do all the time and have no input. Sometimes I don't want to decide what's for dinner or where to go. I make enough decisions as it is. But I'd probably say "not pizza" or something. But if he assumes that's the case all or even most of the time? Hope he's got a divorce lawyer ready. Also the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:26 AM
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Exhibit B
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:14 AM
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I think the best way to explain it is: I love the idea of paragliding. It's the closest thing we will ever get to flying with our own wings. I have always fantasized of doing it I am also scared of heights. I can't walk on those transparent glass floors on high buildings. I couldn't walk up the Eiffel tower. Not because it was physically tiring. I regularly do 4 day hikes. But because I looked down and freaked out. Then had to walk back down and take the lift up. But it's a fantasy I'm not stupi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:38 PM
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I agree that there needs to be communication. I also believe that men aren't stupid. If I say for the 5th time that cleaning involves mopping the floor, and the answer is still "I don't know" or "I forgot" then I'm going to give up I've personally managed this by being pretty straightforward with men. If you show genuine effort by action (I don't have to remind him as often. Things are cleaner) I won't get mad. I'm happy to ask or sit down with you to make a list, but he needs to sit down with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:47 PM
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I think that its less about a good marriage and more about what happens in a divorce or when things go sour. Like it or not, in this world not having an income leaves you vulnerable. You're at the mercy of a partner. Great if things work out. Catastrophic if they don't. No two ways around it. Also most couples I know all work 40 hours full time. Which means any unequal hourly split in chores and raising children should be seen as bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:51 PM
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Exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:48 AM
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It being consensual doesn't change the nature of the fantasies and desires behind it. This is not giving me any comfort that men can successfully seperate fantasy from reality And that they wouldn't use said sexual fantasies to justify abuse and manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:44 AM
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Because there's a difference between fantasy and reality. If a man want to dominate sexually I don't care. So as long as it's safe and consensual sex. The problem is that men would use women's sexuality to justify abuse. Enjoy rough sex? Well then you can't be raped and murdered (look up Grace Millane) If men want to have a nuanced conversation they need to never use that to justify pressuring women into sex acts they don't actually want to do in real life. So what if women read erotica. Even bd…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:31 AM
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I think the problem is how it's framed by redpill men. And with those guys you give an inch and they'll take a thousand miles Say a woman admits there's something sexy about a man being dominant in bed Watch how men use that to justify abusive behaviours, rape and how women all secretly want to be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:22 AM
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So because you gain nothing from it, then you have no empathy. Good to know. At least now men can't complain about the "empathy" gap anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:21 PM
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Because I live in New Zealand and it is winter and it's been raining You can Google that if you want. Avoid public transportation? Are you hearing yourself? If women just didn't avail themselves of public services then they wouldn't have a problem! Go back to your original thesis. You have a problem with women who complain about sexual harassment. It's not that big of a deal. If women just didn't go to things like parties or public transport they'd have nothing to complain about Again, why is it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:03 PM
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You're the one who claimed you had a problem with women complaining about sexual harassment all the time. That all you have to do is not party or club Why would that negate sexual harassment being an issue? Is it only an issue to you at 1000 times? How many times can I be sexually harassed for this to be okay to complain about it? It is relevant to the conversation because by your original statement you're saying you're tired of hearing about it. You're being extremely disingenuous because you'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:44 PM
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Yes there is a difference Do you think sexual harassment is only real if you are harassed every day at park? Answer the question How many sexual harassments does it take for the harassment to be real? Just answer the question Is it acceptable for women to have to limit themselves and secluded themselves in order for sexual harassment to be a problem? Answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:07 PM
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Well I did end up being harassed at the park in the middle of the day. Going to church. You're just unhappy it happened in the past and not in the future Also it's not Sunday for me. I'm not American. I'm going to work. But again, you think it's not real harassment if a 13 year old girl is catcalled outside of school. I probably overestimated your intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:59 PM
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As a woman I refuse to legally commit to anyone without being as sure as I possibly can be I want a test run first. Minimum 3 years of living together. You're right that women perform more domestic duties on average. I would prevent that by moving in with them and seeing how they do chores. And leaving when they don't. I want to see how they are when they go to bed angry Living together is a test run on how they handle day to day life. And whether I like that or not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:49 PM
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I was going to illustrate a point that sexual harassment is bad regardless of where you live. but when I gave you examples of real life harassment in fist world countries you cared more about the "experiment" than the point But I'm not surprised. Pretty normal encounter with the rational and logical gender
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:45 PM
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Oh okay! I see theen! You think the 13 year old isnnt experiencing true harassment! You think it's okay for women to limit themselves otherwise they're just whinging! Got it! What a nice man you Are! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:39 PM
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Are you going to answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:33 PM
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You said "true harassment and sexism" Are you saying that harassment and sexism are only real and problematic when you're under Taliban rule? So a 13 year old being catcalled by 20 year old men in America but experiencing true harassment? What about the time I immigrated to America for a few years and get getting people getting angry at me for not paying attention them hitting on me on the subway? How often does sexual harassment have to occur for it to be "true"? Is being groped in a club haras…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:24 AM
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Hahaha I ain't white or American! I grew up in a developing country. But also I looooove this. I really do "Be grateful we only harass you a little bit! You're so spoiled because we don't rape and assault you all the time!!!" Amazing defense. Truly. If you have to make people feel grateful for not being raped then that just means that you think not being raped is a privilege. Will be saving this comment for future use when someone says that men love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:13 AM
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It's not about whether I like it or not I'm actually all for mandatory paternity and genetic testing at birth, if it weren't for privacy concerns. It's about the fact that proving fraud legally still require evidence of intent and evidence of knowledge. The burden of proof is fairly high. Not to mention lawyers are costly. Governments probably don't care enough about that to subsidize it, because they don't gain money from it. And unlike theft or assault the perpetrator wouldn't be a "danger to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:32 AM
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Not the point. The point is that you said that if you just stayed at home and be a full introvert you wouldn't get sexually assaulted. That partying and clubbing and wearing revealing clothes is the problem. I need you to prove that. Because that's the problem. Men think it's okay so as long as women just become recluses and give up being outdoors and in public Its such a big problem that women complain about being harassed for going outdoors and seeing people and going to parties If partying is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:09 AM
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I like how you didn't answer any of the other questions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:34 AM
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Ah so you're telling me an actual real life example doesn't count because it's in the past? At present, you have a problem with me whinging about sexual harassment because it happened in the past despite the incident having nothing to do with "partying, clubbing, wearing revealing clothes?" If parting, clubbing and wearing revealing clothes avoids sexual assault does that logically mean that women in Afghanistan who legally cannot do any of those don't get sexually assaulted? Yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:26 AM
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Yes and no. No I do not change my behaviours because it damages my chances of "future partners" In saying that, because I know I would be hurt if I had sex with a man and he left after, I do change my behaviour. I don't have sex until I'm reasonably sure this is progressing towards an actual relationship. That means I wait a while. Have men left because of it? Yes. Do men online get angry at it? Yes. Do I care? No Means I've never been pumped and dumped. And I generally always get the relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:23 AM
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Okay. Guess who got harassed in a dress that covered my shoulders down to my knees in a middle class suburb on my way to Church I was 16. Way I see it if I can't stop harassment, no need for me to stop living my life because men can't help themselves. Why is the burden of "sexual harassment" on women and not the people causing it? Why is it whinging if women aren't allowed to enjoy themselves to the same degree as men? And before some screams about men being attacked more. None of the men in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:19 AM
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Okay scenario - I walk the park, in a largely middle class suburb, in a sundress, going to church. Yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:59 AM
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My problem is women whining and complaining about getting sexually assaulted when they can literally just choose to not engage in activities where sexual assault is likely to happen in the first place. Okay fine. I will do none of these activities. I will wear only clothes that cover my shoulders down to my knees If I get sexually harassed once in that time, then your statement is false and you have no right to have that problem I won't even go out to the "hood". Just the place in what we consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:51 AM
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Yes, the law is used to enforce criminal accountability. You don't need to "prove intent" because the intent is already there. Yes you do. That's literally the point of court https://beresfordlaw.com/how-to-prove-fraud/ I'm not saying that paternity fraud should be legal. But I don't think it can be done wholesale the way you think it can be. Because intent to deceive is part of the burden of proof Remember the burden of proof is always with the accuser. Any lawyer could argue "the timing could …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:41 AM
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Maybe you just don't have the correct female friends for you I drop all friends that are flakey It's pretty easy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:58 PM
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Maybe you just don't have the correct female friends for you I drop all friends that are flakey It's pretty easy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:58 PM
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Again this isn't about "accountability" It's about legality Yes obviously we all know she is morally wrong in that case. Yes obviously she's a bad person Yes she should take accountability But that's not the argument here The argument is about fraud In which case there needs to be evidence of willfully and knowingly concealing paternity. Which is not always easy to prove. Men are supposed to be "rational" and "logical" gender. So use that logic. It's not about personal accountability. Say it wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:56 PM
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Cheating doesn't mean fraud If I got overpaid, didn't notice, and spent the money. I didn't commit fraud. I just didn't pay attention. You need to be able to prove that the woman had intent to deceive. It's literally the same case as rape. You need to prove beyond doubt the lack of consent. In the same case you need to prove beyond doubt the intent to deceive. That's what fraud is. Otherwise you're just making having sex or cheating illegal. Which I'd then say if you do that, make cheating illeg…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:31 PM
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No wants to be embarrassed because their partner is a stingy loser at a club. All jokes aside, being an asshole and not compensating workers is unattractive and unacceptable in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:34 PM
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I don't want a double standard because I'm a woman I want to be treated according to my personality, strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes that's linked together, but often it is not. I am capable, reasonably intelligent and have my own opinions. That means I want to be treated as an equal in terms of decision making. I am the higher earner, so I do not need a provider. I am organized and slightly neurotic. As such my role in the household tends to be the manager of the budget, the payer of bills,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:00 AM
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That might be true, but that doesn't change that a lot of them do. And for many men it's better to at least try that way than other more harmful, like blackpill No, not really. Even passport bros tend to try and find a "rural" or "provincial" girl because they think women in the big centers are too feminist for them Turns out women who are educated don't like them. Filipino women in the main centers tend to go two ways. Either they're about as feminist as women in your average Western city, or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:47 AM
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Oh my God. As another Filipino woman, everytime i hear about men coming to the Philippines for a girlfriend, wife or sex I physically cringe. And if you go to the ex-pat subs all they do is complain about our culture, language and food. I can generally tell the difference between a loser back home or a genuine ex-pat in about 5 seconds. As a Filipino woman who lives in a western country, when I was dating, I tended to drop the fact that I'm super feminist in the first 5 minutes of a conversation…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:41 AM
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I offer enough to get married. If you don't think a woman has anything to offer, don't date them. If the juice isn't worth the squeeze then don't squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:35 AM
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I've never been to one with a male stripper and I've been to a few. In saying that, they exist and I've heard about them too. I guess the key is communication and trust between couples. And figuring out your boundaries. Personally I don't care. He can see a stripper at a strip club for events. So as long as he's respectful and tips well he can do whatever he wants so as long as there's no actual sex involved. And we know this because it has come up. And when we had that discussion we agreed that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:14 AM
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I think it's largely due to how it's historically framed Often women have been taught to make themselves smaller so that men would like them. And that men liking you was more important than anything else That means that the knee jerk reaction can be rooted in that framing. The problem isn't me being too much, the problem is that men can't handle someone successful. If you mix in the manosphere framing of men wanting a nurturing woman or an "agreeable" women. Or how a woman's success doesn't matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:12 AM
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I think some do, but not all. There are a lot of men who are intimidated yes But there are also men who don't jive with that. There are men who aren't into the careerism and the corporate world. These guys tend to be the guys who clock out at 5pm. They work to live not live to work They'll never be "successful" in the sense of being rich and they don't seek out women who are successful either. I'm on that level too as a woman. No more career advances for me. Anything more will eat into my peace,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:37 AM
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Yes and no. What is creepy anyway? A lot of the time is a behaviour that society deems to be inappropriate and conveys ill intent. Most of acceptable social behaviour is a result unwritten rules in society. People pick this up when they're young, even if you can't articulate it. There is no objective benchmark for "what is leering". It's just looking too long. But what is too long? What's the objective benchmark for standing too close to someone? Why am I allowed to directly ask to touch a stran…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:30 AM
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I think it's about how close you are to the person obviously how good that person is with complex issues. Like both men and women can be bad at that. If a coworker said "how are you" and someone replied "horrible my son just died" well that's awkward and generally not polite Certainly casual friends and very early relationships are probably not people to talk about your issues with. The deeper the relationship, the more they actually care And of course there will be people who arent equipped for…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:06 PM
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You're equating traditional masculinity with toxic masculinity. There's nothing wrong necessarily with "masculine" behaviours or hobbies. Football, wrestling, being physically strong etc. The problem tends to lie with how masculinity is expressed and how it's used to keep women and non-masculine men down. Alpha bro toxicity, demanding a submissive wife, bullying or demeaning gay men or "feminine men" For that matter we then question why many of the traits that are markers of just being an indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 01:23 AM
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There's a difference between financial abuse and human trafficking and a transactional relationship. If the man is being financially abusive (controlling her finances, refusing to let her work etc) then that's bad. Two people in a transactional relationship (sex and affection for money and a visa) then that's fine. As a woman from the developing world I find passport bros and their Asian/ submissive waifu fetish gross. But you know what? There are some women who manage to leverage that for a bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:09 AM
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Well maybe that's true. Maybe it is something about how women are brought up that makes it harder to orgasm. I've never had issues myself, all issues did come down to someone not listening to me, not taking direction, or not into giving oral. And with new men my rule used to be you don't get yours until I get mine. Weeded out everyone who didn't take direction or who wasn't compatible. But let's say you're right. It's an internal thing. Fact is, I'm still not enjoying sex that much. If I don't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:03 AM
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I stand by the seemingly obvious idea that if people didn't select their partners with so much emphasis on finances to begin with, financial problems would be less destabilizing to marriages. I understand what you're saying, but I'm thinking it's a symptom not a cause. The cause is that this person values a particular kind of financial lifestyle. This desire leads them to include "finances" in their choosing, which will of course also increase the chances of finances putting stress on the marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 08:08 AM
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The problem is that men seem to think "acknowledgement" means "acknowledgement to the men of reddit by recounting all my issues publicly" Conversations can be "I had issues with men who treated me badly and I have decided to not let that happen anymore" And men are all like "but why did you end up with him! Bet with the tingles. Lol Chad. Why did you stay so long? Etc etc etc etc" None of which is a helpful. Putting up boundaries can be accountability (AKA when dating and a man does x I leave). …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:31 PM
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Oh? Because from what I can see men conflate the needs of the family unit with "what I want" quite frequently. Things like "my job (and money) is more important than staying close to family and the wider support system" (and then when the wife is depressed in a new city/country it's her fault some how) Or "I get to spend $100 in the pub drinking after work, but you're wasting money on a haircut" Or "I know you want to go on a date and keep romance alive but I'm too tired for one $20 each dinner"…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 11:23 PM
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Yeah one of the things my more religious cousins get taught is that if they want to be a sahm or be in a relationship where the man is the Captain The man has to be someone "Christ-like" That means people who don't demand or ask for obedience. He had to lead by walking the talk, being patient, kind, caring, loving and putting the needs of the family unit first He has to be be emotionally and mentally mature. Someone who won't resort to dominance, anger, whinging or guilt tripping to be followed.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 10:39 PM
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Hmmm... Perhaps it's easier to then say: I can't be annoyed at a man. Because being annoyed at him doesn't make me want to have sex I can't have lingering resentment. That generally only happened once and it was because I got resentful about the cleaning. I told him I was never going to nag. But if it's not done I will do it myself. And if I find myself doing more than 50/50 I will be resentful and leave. I left. I don't want to do it when I'm stressed. Good for me I'm generally not stressed and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:43 AM
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I do. In fact I'm fairly open about what I like and don't like. Most men tend to be on board with the whole "sex needs to make me happy too to want it." I've never had any issues at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:01 AM
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Well that's sort of how I feel when men bring up sex. If I'm stressed why would I want sex? Cue men whinging about their needs, feeling unloved, how women are "witholding sex" etc etc I'd rather sex be fun and mystical too. But I refuse to end up with a man who complains about his sexual needs when I'm going through some shit. If I have to de-mystify it, I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:38 AM
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Nope If women can't bitch about any jokes men can't bitch about any jokes. Includes jokes about religions, cultures and countries. Sorry not sorry. If I'm not allowed to find anything offensive neither are you Why can't you take a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:03 AM
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Sure. Either way. I don't want a man who complains about his "needs" when I'm hurting, stressed or uncomfortable. If they can't deal with a temporary hiatus when a kid is born then I want out. Also tbh I'd expect them to be pretty tired and touched out too because I am not being primary care giver. I told my husband that he had two choices if we have a child. He can parent 50/50. Or we can divorce and he gets 50/50 custody. If I am up feeding the baby, you get up and change the diaper. If I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:02 AM
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Okay. In that case men should stop bitching about jokes as well. I don't want anyone getting about their penis, when their masculinity is insulted etc etc Men need to be able to stop getting their panties in a twist when women make jokes about #male tears or choosing the bear. Take the jokes on the chin and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:50 AM
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Put it this way I don't know how I would be either. So he has to be prepared for the possibility of no sex for a while. If he can't handle that, tell me now. So I can leave and have children with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:17 AM
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I don't know. I'm not a man. They have agency They can choose to not have that kind of relationship and leave if they're unhappy. Ask men why they choose to stay in relationships where they aren't happy with the sex. They're free to be single
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:16 AM
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Okay then. By that logic there is no sexualization or objectification of women in burqas. No woman in Afghanistan has suffered from objectification since their clothes are optimized to hide them from the male gaze. Which means if I Google search "sexual assault" or "sexualization" or "objectification" I will find zero results from Afghanistan. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:59 AM
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Honestly the way I see it when you decide on having kids everyone should be aware that children will cause stress and exhaustion. Women tend to react to stress and exhaustion with lower or no libido. I don't care if men care it's a stress reliever. That's not how it works for a lot of women. So when talking about kids, you also need to talk about what having children would look like Who takes time off work? Will this affect the division of labour? Are we aiming for 50/50 childcare? Is mum primar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:55 AM
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Not really. Is more that said sarcastic comment came across with the implication of "wahmen bad because we don't love magic penis". If you'd been more neutral with your statement, maybe you'd have gotten a difference response Start out negative, don't complain when people get negative back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:50 AM
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How different are we talking about here? If I went on a holiday I would be more comfortable sharing a room with a female friend than a male one. Would you consider that "unfair"? If it's just vulnerability and emotional chats I'll treat them the same. Previous experiences have led me to learn that men can mistake friendship for romantic interest. So before I allow a man vulnerability and emotional chats I tend to make it very clear that there's no interest there. Words like "well you're like a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:47 AM
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I think that both men and women have agency and yes you're correct men should also leave when they're unhappy with the amount of sex. But OP is a woman and is coming in from the perspective of a woman. And many women find a man's insistence on sex to be annoying or something to be resentful against. And so women should also leave relationships of they are unhappy with it. And yes men too. But the conversation was originally about women. It's like telling women that they need to work hard in orde…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:39 AM
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If that's how you see it. If I don't desire sex I will not have sex. I will only desire sex if sex is good for me. Sex has to feel better than video games, reading books or going out with my friends. Otherwise I'll just do those other things. And to feel good for me I need to be comfortable, not have any negative feelings, and yes have an orgasm. Pressure me into sex that I don't want, will make sex even more undesirable. Because now it's either a chore or something that makes me uncomfortable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:16 AM
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I actually kinda agree (within reason). Figure out if your libidos match early on. If they don't, better to break up. That said if you communicated this early on and the man agrees to stay, at that point he really can't complain about his "needs not being met" The issue from what I can tell tends to happen a lot when kids come in. Children are very stressful and for many women that stress drastically lowers their libidos. One of my friends told me it's like her body is on call to her baby - brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:08 AM
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If you have amazing social skills there are no rules. If you have no or low social skills. You shouldn't be cold approaching anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 07:12 PM
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There will always be stigma So it's not about pregnancy or saving the life of the child. If it was just about "human life" then you would advocate to remove the stigma. Because if women were told "right okay, you can give it up no fuss no muss" at the end. No pressure no shame. Maybe pregnancy wouldn't be seen as so life ruining. But let's face it, if there is an assumption that a "good person" would keep the child, raise it, give up their future aspirations, sacrifice time and money for it. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 11:31 PM
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It's not just pregnancy it's motherhood. I've seen too many mothers lose themselves. No time for their own physical and mental well-being. No time for friends, etc. I don't see this as often in men. They still go to beers with their friends or leave the house. My take? Men wouldn't consider children worth it either if they had to do the exact same childcare and had the exact same environment as women do I can already see the "but I'd be happy as a house husband!" Crowd. Or the "I'm already poor …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:24 PM
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You never answered my question If the entire point of being pro-life is to preserve life, then why is there no pro-life lobby for mandatory organ donation? If someone else will die without receiving blood, cells, kidneys or any other organs then we should be able to take those body parts from anyone. Living or dead. Regardless of any physical consequences. After all otherwise you are effectively killing someone. So if not allowing a baby to stay in your uterus is kiling a baby. Then not allowing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:15 PM
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Really feel sympathetic for men after they come around denying me human rights
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:03 PM
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Okay so let's say I hit someone with my car. They might die if I don't give them my blood Should the state force me to donate blood or any other organs? And again corpses definitely should not have bodily autonomy by this metric. But also what happens after the baby is born? Let's say I agree. Let's force all pregnancies that are not life threatening and will not cause permanent disability. I suggest that when the baby is born and the mother didn't want the child that there be zero stigma for ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:22 AM
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Well I came from a developing country. I met a child abandoned at an orphanage because his family couldn't afford to feed him. His parents are alive and they've even shown up to visit. But hey can't feed him and there's nothing anyone else can do about it. I know a woman who sees her children once or twice a year. Her job couldn't feed and shelter them and pay for their schooling. So she left her rural village to work as a maid in a big city. You can walk outside and see the street children livi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:10 AM
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So what? Now we worry about the consequences of no bodily autonomy? I don't care. Women have been left with life long issues because of pregnancy. Not to mention recovery. If we're willing to force those consequences on them to "save a life" we need to be willing to force consequences on everyone. People need a kidney and they'll die without one? Well you've got two and it's to save a life. Why is it okay to violate bodily autonomy for save an unborn baby's life but not to violate bodily autonom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:04 AM
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skyrocketing suicides, the skyrocketing rates of depression, Well I support mental healthcare and therapy. I care about suicides and depression. I just don't believe men are entitled to someone else's body and life. the skyrocketing rates of cardiovascular disease I support universal healthcare. Lots of men don't. Muh taxes. and have proved easy to mobilise into a voting base. Oh I think they're a problem all right. They just don't like to hear solutions that involve working on their mental heal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:51 AM
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I'm not arguing that it's not a life. A dying child who needs a new heart is also a life. But I don't see anyone forcing organ donations to keep that child alive. An already child elsewhere could have their heart used to save this other child. But we think people are allowed to have bodily autonomy even when they're dead. Again by that logic, no one should have bodily autonomy. Who can't we mandate organ donation after death?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:47 AM
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Funny how human rights is an issue but not getting a date isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:31 AM
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. I just wish it was seen as a tragic but necessary medical procedure not the Identitarian political movement it is today. And who turned it into an identitarian political movement? What it is, is the right to be able to have a procedure done to my body. No one should have the right to my body except me. I say we either agree that people have bodily autonomy or we don't. If we don't have bodily autonomy I want mandatory organ donation. All non essential and usable organs should be considered pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:29 AM
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So if you were raised Catholic, you should be able to understand why people might be opposed to abortion besides "not believ[ing] [you] own [your] own body." If someone believes something is murder, they're obviously going to be opposed to it. I'm not saying I agree with the Catholic Church's teaching on abortion, but I'm saying I understand their perspective on the matter. Just because I understand a perspective doesn't mean I agree with it. And again why put myself in a position where our valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:52 AM
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would think most people wouldn't want their life partner to be someone they find obnoxious. Sure. But that's not your problem that's mine. Why should I care about what men in general find desirable? That's not what I'm looking for. If you and any future partner always go along with the prevailing opinions of the progressive Democratic activist base of the moment (or your country's equivalent), Who said I care about the progressive activist base? Again these are my values. If a man thinks that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:49 AM
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..... You make no sense. You said "do women empathize with men" I said "yes. I empathize with people. But for the romantic stuff I usually just empathize with my male friends. Because often people online are incels are manosphere." You said "what makes someone an incel? Is being frustrated being an incel?" I said no and I gave you examples of incel like behaviour. Then you said "well then why do you care?" Because the original answer was that I care about my friends. And by definition they would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:50 AM
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Because in that scenario they'd be a friend. Friends I tend to empathize with. But if course if they're being sexist then we aren't friends and I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:31 AM
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Did I say it's not a big deal? I said they shouldn't say things that are sexist. If they're saying things that are sexist then why would I be friends with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:42 AM
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Have I said anything about venting frustrations? Have I said that they need to get over it? I said they shouldn't be saying incel shit. You know things like "feminism bad!" And "women need to date within their league" That's not voicing frustrations. That's being a sexist prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:31 AM
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To add, what does it matter if I'm obnoxious? I mean really what does it matter? This is about relationships. Dating for me isn't about finding a fling. It's about finding someone who has the potential to be a life partner. It's dating -> exclusivity -> relationship -> long term commitment -> life partner. every relationship is a potential life partner. Why choose a life partner with fundamentally different values? You said that different environments can lead to different beliefs I agree. Let's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:55 AM
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Without "but wahmen unreasonable!" Or "feminism bad!" Or "sex is a need!" And certainly not "women are a net drain in taxes!" Or "wahmen need to date in their league!" It's fine to be lonely. It's fine to want someone in your life. It's fine to complain about not having dates or matches. It's not fine to be an incel/ manosphere
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:38 PM
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Okay then. Find one that will do that for your. Like I don't see the issue here. You don't like this behaviour or lifestyle. Either you find someone who will do that or find someone else. If you throw a tantrum and get angry because she won't change, that'll be in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:51 PM
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Sure. I actually don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:55 PM
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I empathize with the problems and mental struggles of other people, regardless of gender. And yes mental illness and mental issues are hard to have. But also, it's that does not necessarily mean I, as an individual, owe men I don't like my time or body As for dating? Because men have poisoned the well on relationship problems. They turn into bitter neck beards or incense. And then talk about sex like it's food. They think that not getting relationships is oppression. I wouldn't be comfortable gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:59 PM
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Likewise, how much of your hatred is being fanned by people who'd rather use you as a pawn? Have you considered that, if you're being pushed to be strident and obnoxious, the goal may even be to push men away from Democratic politics and women's rights? Who said anything about my hatred? I'm Asian and grew up Catholic. Too many men have used that as a way to get their submissive asian fetish bullshit. You know how often I've heard the "I love your culture, you actually value family" shtick? And …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:53 PM
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Feminists who exclude transwomen and feminists who exclude sex workers I critique. But also there are nuanced conversations about sex work that needs to happen. I absolutely do not believe sex work is in any way empowering and I do not believe it should be promoted. It's also a fairly dangerous line of work, and one that does not lend itself to longevity and stability. I just also believe that sex workers should have rights and be treated like everyone else. You shouldn't be demeaned for your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:41 AM
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when there are beautiful people who you could be with, is a strategic cope. Because a lot of those beautiful people aren't compatible with an individual woman. It's not about "ceding and ground" It's a very simple statement. "A relationship needs to have a juice that is worth the squeeze" And if that beautiful person stresses me out every week because of chores, but doesn't drastically make me happier every week to make up for it. Then the relationship makes no sense. If that beautiful person cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 08:52 PM
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And why is that a problem? Isn't it better if men who wouldn't handle a relationship with me.... Don't get a relationship with me? They're free to find another woman. That's the point of dating. Finding someone who you align with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:57 PM
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But isn't that the point of debating? Truly let's say hypothetically her pool is so small she can't find a man. Two options, she women's her pool or chooses to be single. She chooses to be single. Because that makes her happier You can argue against that particular point if you really want to. But otherwise I don't see what the issue is with that counter point And I don't want to be friends with 99% of people in this sub. 80% of the men are walking red flags who I wouldn't tolerate in real life …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:54 PM
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Being single and having your arms torn off are widely different If being single makes you happier than being with a man who disagrees with you then I don't see the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:43 PM
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just think a relationship should still feel flexible and enjoyable, not like a contract with constant scorekeeping. This would be correct. However I have seen many men, especially on this sub, claim "constant score keeping" when they're just lazy Or they claim that their higher income means they get to do less chores. Their income probably isn't that much higher. Or that mowing the lawn once a month and doing a repair once every three months is the same effort as doing dishes every night. I can …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:26 PM
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When men complain about women's sexuality (like you just did in your post). Many women need certain things to activate their sexuality, not just a man existing. When men complainin about this then they're finding women sexuality repulsive When men slut shame or degrade women who are sexual they are finding women's sexuality repulsive End alllllll of that and then we can talk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:08 PM
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In my relationship my husband has his chores and I have my chores. Those chores are about 50% of weekly or fortnightly house hold tasks (divided by hours). So as long as both sets of chores are being done, then things are roughly 50. While nothing will ever be exact, I'm tired of men splitting bills but not doing dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:06 PM
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Then maybe that should be a statement you tell a woman before you marry her so she knows what she's getting into
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:43 PM
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Tell you what. I will stop finding male sexuality repulsing when men stop finding women sexuality repulsing. No complaints about how women's attraction works (like responsive desire) No slut shaming No stigma No judgement on how women have sex ever Sounds good?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:40 PM
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If he got pregnant and breastfed I would. I'm not stupid. He's stronger than me, I can carry children. What dangerous repairs? That what we hire professionals for? What unpleasant tasks? Like plumbing? See above. But also if he doesn't 50/50 chores, childcare and believes he is 1% the man of the house he's getting divorced and he knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:36 PM
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also believes people need to take sexual intercourse seriously and not sleep around recklessly? Not compatible with me but just doesn't want them pushing their ideologies onto him and forcing people to abide by their beliefs? Like what, giving them equal rights? Either you're okay with giving them equal rights or you don't. Full stop. End of story. not a communist belief of free healthcare for all? The fact that he thinks that's communist would make.it a red flag for me Not compatible with me. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:33 PM
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I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:29 PM
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If the man made a decision in enough time for the woman to get an abortion if she wants to, signed away his rights, and never performs a takesies backsies then I don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:29 PM
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Because I believe that very few of those relationships are ethical. Some are. Those are the relationships where the man truly appreciates his wife's labour and ensures her financial well-being. Even if they divorce. My friend for example is a stay at home parent. But she has complete control of all finances, a pre-nup that details how much she's entitled to in the case of divorce, and he puts money in her pension that's equal to what he gets from work. It is as ethical as it can get because he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:53 AM
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This makes no sense. To me they are one and the same. If a man did not treat me or approach in a way that is attractive, nothing about him is attractive. There is 0% attraction. My entire attraction is based on how happy and comfortable I am
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:45 AM
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Politics are a sign of core values My core values are equity and equality. So for instance if you believe in one iota of gender roles we will never be able to build a family together. The moment you tell me "because you're a woman" I'd file for a divorce. And the moment you tell my daughter to limit herself by 1% because of her gender, I will file for 100% custody and drag your name through the mud. Because I believe in equity and equality I would also 100% divorce any man who does not treat my …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:41 AM
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Agree with you for the middle class and the rich. Yes for some of them they'd prefer a stay at home partner, particularly for the early years where day care eats up all your income. And it's not the dealbreaker that it would be for working professionals or middle classes. After all if you're already poor you don't have too much farther to fall. But it does depend on whether they're "hustle culture" poor or not. A lot of lower class immigrants for example expect working partners or degrees partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:35 AM
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I have never met a woman who excluded kindness. Every single person they dated would be considered "morally good" They just weren't necessarily relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:03 AM
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Okay then here's a different thing. A woman requires a morally good person. She also requires a man that is attractive. She says that being good is important to her Is this supposed to be something you should "call out?" Let's say she says "I want a good man who is also attractive and funny". And someone calls her out for wanting a man that is attractive, would you then "call out" that person? After all they're the reason women "lie" about what they want right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:29 AM
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I mean this is the nicest way possible. Are you autistic? Because most people know that women do appreciate kindness the most. With the caveat that the man is actually someone they're attracted to. And before you go around about "virtue signaling" then you also need to change society's cultural norms. If you get called rude and socially punished when you say "he's kind but not attractive" or "I want a kind man but he has to be attractive too" then obviously you're going to use context clues and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:40 AM
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I'm already in this relationship. Wtf even is a sidewalk rule? Men stand in front in lifts? I have never even heard of this But he does need to do acts of love like being affectionate and considerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 05:33 AM
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Why can't women want both? I'd never date a man who I seen morally bad. But I also want someone who is fun to hang out with. I don't see how claiming that you want a good person* is virtue signaling if it's actually true. If you think most women actually don't want good people please show me stats. *Good person as in someone who I kind, decent and doesn't randomly kick puppies. Having tattoos, piercings, partying, or swearing does not make a man bad. Please make sure you mean actually morally ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:20 AM
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Good can be morally good But in many cases a good personality also means "someone who makes me feel good when I am with them" For example someone who is funny and makes you laugh Or someone you just inherently vibe with Or someone who is confident Or someone who makes great conversation If you are morally good but I don't enjoy your personality then it won't work. This does not mean that I want an asshole or a douchebag. It means I want someone who is both morally good and who makes me feel good…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:07 AM
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You can’t expect society to ignore your objectively flawed dating choices by saying that you can do whatever you want in dating. I didn't. Dating bad people and claiming you value moral goodness the most (which most women do) Source for this claim? One thing I also find on this sub is that men can't seem to find the difference between "morally bad" and "man I don't like" and "man they personally perceive to be morally bad." I'm 30 years old. I am a millennial women. Everyone around me has tattoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 02:14 AM
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The entire nuance is even if are the kindest guy the girl might go for the drug dealer because that's what attracts her so you can't do anything about it. Red pill always filters such a partners at the start. Seems to me that that's the exact kind of girl they want to attract. The girl that wants a drug dealer. I think red pill usually talks from the privilege guys perspective and average man should copy them to have more chances. Again please refer to: - girls like assholes - AWALT - spin plate…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:31 AM
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Is it? Because what I hear from redpill is: muh hypergamy women are the oldest teenager in the house everything is looks and income women love bad boys because vagina tingles. Redpill can come talk to me when they learn nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 01:21 AM
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I think the problem is we need to divorce "good guy" from "someone I want to be in a relationship with" One of the things that is great about modern society is that people can function as independent individuals. Relationships are voluntary. Relationships and long term relationships, is hard. It takes work to make something last. You have someone else to consider now. So what that means is that the goal isn't "good man" or "good woman" or even "good person" The goal is "someone who makes the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:23 AM
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And yet they aren't. Because boys will be boys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 04:39 AM
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The 24 year old was a kid? Please. And he was convicted and found guilty. They just didn't want him to suffer jail time for the sake of his future The 16 year old "juvenile came from a good family and had good test scores.” so that's where the leniency was?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:04 AM
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https://people.com/crime/nj-judge-says-teenager-rape-deserves-leniency/ https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/26/uk/uk-rape-charges-teenagers-sentences-reviewed-intl https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46207304 https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2025/04/01/medical-student-convicted-of-raping-another-student-escapes-sent/ However, he is still young and has no criminal record. He is also a talented and committed person both in his professional and private live. By finding him guilty but not punishing him, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:55 AM
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Indifferent I am a nerd. I enjoy nerd things But is he spending too much money on collectibles or tech? Is he spending so much time on his hobbies that it becomes more of a priority than things like chores? Do I feel like his hobby is more important than spending time with me? Being into nerd things doesn't tell me much. I've met nerdy guys who were great partners. I met nerdy guys who ended up divorced because he kept complaining that taking care of their newborn cut into their gaming time (ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:39 AM
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I don't think "being able to rely" on someone and "needing them" are the same thing. I can trust and rely on my husband knowing that he is fully capable of doing something or being someone. But while we can help each other and be relianikn each other I don't believe we should ever be dependent on each other to live. I don't need him to be happy But I am happier with him. If he becomes a person I can't rely on or who makes me miserable, then I can do without him. Like I want a life partner. If he…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:11 AM
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But using the hypothetical instance of being a mother ONE day as a way to always have that situation in play rubs me the wrong way. Good for you. But here's the nub, as you approach your late 20s -late 30s women do need to start thinking about children. Because that's when they're likely to have it. Now if you're both commited to being child free, then sure whatever. But if a child is possible, why is it "bad" for a woman to make her expectations of what that would look like clear? Maternity lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:06 AM
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One - if a relationship is "fair and equitable" for all involved then by definition you need at least equal voting rights, equal work rights, and equal consequences. No relationship without the legal protections of feminism is fair or equitable full stop. Some men here will say that protecting women's right to work is unfair. I would agree. But only if the system in and of itself has zero bias towards men. That means that in the whole country, no man with equal stats will ever be chosen over a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:59 AM
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Yeah. I have seen way too many women be "I don't want to be the crazy bitch that over reacted" or "I just want to give him another chance because things were going so well" And yeah sure they're not actual monsters or abusers of men. But they can be douchebags. Or self-centered or selfish. Lots of them feel inconsiderate. And guess who ended up breaking up with the men anyway after 2 - 5 years? Waste of time. You only live once is actually a motto that some of these women really need to internal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:41 AM
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The problem isn't questioning their gender identity The problem is if they might still be questioning and whether this issue affects their life now and in the future. This isn't PC to say, but I'm straight. Which means if they change their minds again its not worth it. And I'd never sign up for dealing with someone with a lot of damage and/or baggage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:27 AM
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I don't care about porn use so as long as it's not affecting me. My only issue is the ethics involved in porn. But I'm sure there are ethical websites for that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:10 AM
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Oh my God why? Has anyone seen that oil show where the dad basically tells his daughter that they have a contract? The contract is that she lies to him and says she's a virgin (even though it's false) and he leaves it alone so as long as no one is getting hurt. Even if she gets pregnant she need to lie and say she's the virgin Mary. Absolutely no one should have the say in anyone's sex life as long as it's safe and consensual. And no one is underage. Relationships? Vetted isn't the right word fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:08 AM
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It's not just about safety it's about how it's presented. I have been hit on many times by lesbians and in general they aren't aggressive and back down very quickly. Men I associate with men screaming from cars, openly saying lewd things, being aggressive and touchy. Even online men will defend the concept of piercing out on someone. Looking isn't a crime! But women tend to be more subtle. I do feel flattered by men's attention sometimes but only when it's expressed in ways that make me comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:02 AM
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I think I enjoy having being married and having the love of my life. Life would be much lonelier and without him. But a life with no friends and being a homebody? That's just a life of misery and loneliness. I would never choose that option. At least as a career woman I can go out, have friends, and have hobbies. Even if I would be lonely at times, at least I'd enjoy my life. Get myself a house full of pets to keep me happy maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:58 AM
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Its because of how you've phrased it What you've said is: Red flags don't work because people can just learn them and get around them and adding a sentence about how flas are just flaws What that implies is that red flags don't work so don't use them If you said "we need a system that strengthens the net so that it's easier to spot people hiding their red flags" then maybe you would have received a better response My view is that figure out your boundaries. Anything that is outside of that is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:35 PM
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Seatbelts don't prevent every death, so stop wearing them. Brushing your teeth doesn't prevent every cavity so don't bother doing it I refuse to date a man who believe in gender roles. Can someone lie about it? Yeah. But also if they do lie and it comes out, guess who's filing for divorce!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:42 PM
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I'd like to think it's a lot more egalitarian these days. But the OP was asking for why the "narrative is thaten benefit from marriage." Personally the real issue is generally tied to child rearing. However you slice and dice it, women tend to be the ones who take time off work for childcare. This leads to lower incomes and lower financial stability. And that leads to increased vulnerability. All I'm saying, is that when children happen, make damn well sure you're financially covered. If you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:04 AM
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Interesting. Genuinely why couldnt him or any hypothetical man you are with go to the bar with you? What changes of he went and why do you need to go without your hypothetical partner? he can if he wants to. But if he doesn't want to I'm not going to stop going out on his account. I'm a social person and I'm out of the house a lot. Many of those friend groups involve men. Either we both go out or I go out. Either way I'm not going to stop doing things I like because he's insecure. And if I'm hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:51 AM
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Relationships include compromise. Any compromise is less freedom. Whether that compromise is good, easy or worth it is up to you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:10 PM
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Never said that. Not my problem if you project
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:45 AM
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Go ahead and feel sorry then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:54 AM
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I didn't dispute that. I even put that in there. Men due to testosterone have a higher propensity for physical violence. Women will abuse verbally or emotionally instead
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:38 PM
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Weirdly I am now defending men on this sub. Lol. Men and women are both awful and probably have the same amount of shitty people. However statistically men with social issues are less likely to mask in order to fit into society. It's why autism diagnosis is easier to pick up in men than in women. That just means that you're likely to come across more men that exhibit obvious asocial behaviours than women. I would also note that due to testosterone (more aggression) and higher physical strength m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:34 PM
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Yea and this is generally accepted by leftist PC culture while men complaining about dating women isn't. That's the difference. That's because of the way men complain about women. Honestly the fact that you people have no tact isn't a misandry issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:03 AM
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I would argue that men don't necessarily benefit more from a marriage, so as much as they might benefit more from a longer term permanent relationship with no legal responsibilities. Assuming both partners working full time, but with a fairly "traditional" chore division. What that means is they'll both work 40 hours, but the woman likely does more around the house, will take more time off work to take care of children, and may also need to deal with a man talking about their "sexual needs being…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 06:27 AM
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plenty of objectively terrible people are in relationships. As I said, low mental and emotional health people get into relationships with other low mental and emotional health people. What kind of person would accept a relationship with a "terrible person?" Either equally terrible people or someone with low mental and emotional health who get taken advantage of. People have choices. They can: change themselves to fit the standards to the people they want lower or change their standards stay sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:42 AM
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This is true. If hanging out with you makes me feel worse than staying in bed, why should I be your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:23 AM
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I think that in general, both genders have bad actors. Both genders will have people incapable of sustaining or being in a healthy relationship. And both genders have their issues, strengths and weaknesses. At the end of the day a relationship is meant to be something that brings joy or contentment to your life. A good, healthy, long term relationship is generally predicted by compatibility, affection, and one where both people are in a positive cycle of reciprocation. Generally those who have p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:52 AM
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A few things - mental illness for one Another one is that some women come with trauma and abusive upbringings or come from complicated family dynamics. Those women normalise abuse and have a hard time breaking the cycle. There's also a psychology to trauma bonding. If that up and down rollercoaster of emotions is what you associate with love, then that's what you will look for. It takes a lot of work to undo that damage. And for some women, they just don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 09:41 AM
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That too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:11 AM
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Would this government also offer women with the same support if they have no children and are similarly unemployed or in low income jobs? Remember that generally the arguement about women gaining more in taxes is generally women who take care of children and the elderly. And female dominated jobs tend to earn less than male ones. Women who have no children tend to have the same support by the government as men of their same ethnicity. Scholarships and supposed DEI target women who are already ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:29 AM
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Okay so it's not necessarily about "advocating for weak men" it's about culturally encouraging women who are naturally dominant to be dominant. Which in theory means those dominant women would be more encouraged to partner with submissive men. But this will still lead to some "weak men" being excluded. There's likely two categories of dominant women the rich woman who wants a trophy husband. the provider women who wants a nurturing house husband A rich woman who wants a trophy husband probably w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 05:41 AM
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I would leave. I believe in trust. I trust him, he trusts me. If he stays overnight with another girl I won't even question it He questions my loyalty even once? He's divorced and out the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:27 AM
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If other minority groups etc can have exclusive dating communities, so can we i believe. Please explain how this works? Minority communities with exclusive dating communities are there because they are attracted to each other. They just need to find each other. Gay people find other gay people Christians to find other Christians. Exactly how do you do this with "weak men" And what are we defining as weak? Keep in mind that a "weak and childlike" woman is favoured by some men because they want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:25 AM
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Define support
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:18 AM
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Nugget of truth - consumerism is bad regardless of which gender it's marketed to The rest... Hyperbole Women can decenter men and be "liberated" without being consumerist. Men and Women should have the option to spend their own money on things they personally find fulfilling. Like traveling or hobbies. Or even going out with friends. I see nothing wrong with saving up and buying your own house, spending your money on books or yarn or baking, and seeing your friends. It's not about going clubbing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:17 AM
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Men don't expect to meet them in the middle though. They just get angry and annoyed if you deny them sex. half the dead bedroom stories are because of things like: we had kids and now I'm tired and stressed. You pressuring me for sex makes me more tired and stressed and now I hate the concept of sex Congratulations. You've created your own dead bedroom. And also, these days exclusivity is a talk people have. So yes actually you are owed exclusivity. You want to stipulate non-exclusivity if not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:24 PM
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I'm married so no. Did I used to? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:58 AM
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I think the issue for many, including me, is that men deserve more social services too. I want to expand compassion, not limit it. Well I agree. More social services for everyone But the actual issue about that is not social services so as much as how much we value traditionally feminine labour Let's be honest here. Most women take pay cuts after being mothers. Many fields that pay less are traditionally feminine - teaching, nursing, social worker, elderly care. And lets be honest the services t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:38 AM
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I would be glad to raise taxes to prevent the financial enslavement of individual men. I mean I agree with you 100% there But uhhhh I think most men here would disagree. The whole women are a net drain on taxes narrative is very prevalent here after all But again, only if the accessibility of biological abortion is wide spread and easy. If a man just needs to fill out paperwork in 5 minutes. I need to be able to leave my house, walk 5-10 minutes and get an abortion. For the same cost of the pape…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:37 AM
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At the moment men have control only up until sex happens (i.e. they have control over their own condoms) Then after that pregnancy happens inside a woman's body If we believe that people should have the right to bodily autonomy, then women should be allowed to terminate or not. Because it's her body. If she has the baby anyway, then the baby needs to be cared for. It's called the rights of the child after all. At the moment the solution for taking care of that baby's needs is to force fathers to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:14 AM
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I think the point of the example was to illustrate tjat there are shared cultural and societal understandings of right and wrong, regardless of illegality or precise timing. We can say that people who give their seat to the elderly are kind and those that don't are inconsiderate and even rude. But then problem with then start arguing the semantics - how old is elderly? What if you're younger but with a disability? Are pregnant women exempt? What if you're 45 and they're 50? Or is it 80? What if …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:22 PM
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kind of enforcment or consequences, Why is it all about the enforcement of consequences? Not everything wrong is illegal. Morality is not the same as enforcement. It's not illegal to be a 60 year old man leering at a 10 year old at the beach playing because she was in a normal beach attire. He's still a bad person. He's still creepy. And people are allowed to react and socially punish him for being a creepy perv. And if some man went around going "listen! He wasn't leering he was just staring! Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:39 PM
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Funnily enough I do think women owe men politeness when approached so as long as he was not rude, pushy, or creepy Meny men just are rude, creepy and pushy and refuse to admit it It's called having social decency. Most cultures have unspoken social contracts. How close to stand next to someone, how to interact with strangers etc. Many men on this sub seem to struggle with this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:08 PM
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And I'd argue that it's common sense to know the difference between checking someone out and leering. I am not so naive as to think men don't know the difference, I think they're just using semantics to justify it and make it women's problem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:51 PM
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Well I was wearing church clothes. Way I see it if men can't be expected to not make me uncomfortable when I'm dressed conservatively men now have no right to say revealing clothes cause men to look Either clothes are a reason or they aren't. If men can't be told to understand subtle nuances between looking and leering then women can't be told that the way they dress affects men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:40 PM
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I think there's a difference between "checking someone out" and "leering" Most women wouldn't mind being checked out. Because it's a normal human thing and also can be flattering. But many men tend to go straight to "leering" which is creepy. And then you'll get some bad faith PPD man who argues that leering is fine and that it's all women's fault anyway. And what's leering 4 secs? 1 minute? But I viscerally remember wearing very normal clothes and walking through a park and group of men just st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 07:20 PM
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Yes. I like sex, I'm not asexual. And sex is important to me within a relationship But if a man value's sex more than they value my comfort they're not for me. And that's okay. And it's worked out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:13 PM
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Well yes and no. I think most women could get sex if their standards were non-existent and they didn't care if sex would be painful or bad. Which I think is the key difference. Many men on PPD would be willing to have incredibly bad sex with an incredibly ugly woman. Because for them the sex itself is enough. They could hate the woman's guts, complain that she's extremely bad in bed and think she's incredibly ugly. And they'd still choose sex with her over no sex. This is why frat boys used to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:39 AM
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A lot of men on this sub struggle to understand women's sexuality and seem to think that women all seem to have men's sexuality and get angry if it isn't. For myself at least to even want to have sex I need: - physical attraction - emotional attraction - a feeling of safety - no stress and no discomfort - emotional safety. And part of emotional safety (for me) is knowing that a man likes me enough to have a relationship with me. Men seem to think that this is "having sex for the sake of a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:04 AM
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I think a lot of this is skewed by the harmless but creepy or the discourse around men pumping and dumping. Or men just being around because they want sex. So for example if we are specifically just talking about pools, then yes women have more choices. I won't deny it. And on the surface, I would even also say that men having less choices does not guarantee those choices are good. On the other hand calling it a privilege or women have life on easy mode is a direct misunderstanding. First I need…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:22 AM
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I have zero respect for cheaters. May they be lonely all their lives. Those who are cheated on? If they feel like they can't leave the marriage due to financial or custodial reasons, I don't lose any respect. If they stay because they believe the other person actually loves them, then yeah I lose some respect. In repeated cases, all respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 02:47 AM
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I do. But boundaries tend to need to be established early. My group have never dated each other. Ever. People bring partners into the group, but no one dated within the group. One guy broke that rule once and that made everything so awkward. And we all hated it when they broke up. Legit after the breakup we all went to drinks together and talked about how this is why people shouldn't shit where they eat. 10 years this group has existed. People have come and gone and introduced partners or other …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:29 AM
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is on the man and it's the woman's job to make the man's life easy for the benefit of the couple. The women who agree with this dynamic implicitly understand their role and put their ego aside, they will never challenge their husband's leadership role. Disagree. This is not always the implicit understanding of this role. In my culture for example many people take the stance that the man might be the head but the woman is the neck that tells the man where to look. My housewife grandmother would a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:13 AM
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While I understand your general point, I disagree with it. It's like saying that that the tradwife pipeline starts with baking thing from scratch and the cottage core aesthetic. Or that the anti-vaxx pipeline starts with the "anti-plastic" and "crunchy mommy" pipeline. Being anti-plastic or believing that there are chemicals in items we use that are bad for us is not a bad thing. It doesn't mean that it will eventually lead to being anti-vaxx Wanting to get back to basics or living a less modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:03 AM
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What he's saying to me is that any decentering is the start of the pipeline to being redpill/radfem/ manosphere Which by definition makes the idea of it wrong I find that to be a strangely weird sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:56 PM
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I just think that to say that "decentering" is wrong is itself kinda screwed up because done correctly it's a very healthy mentality. Greater hostility arises not because of decentering but because of the proliferation of social media algorithms. And Greater hostility is linked to the greater polarization in society in general
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:38 PM
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Well yes. But decentering doesn't mean cancelling all sexual or romantic aspirations. It just doesn't put romance and sex at the center of your life. Literally the meaning of decentering. I'm a married woman. Lots of people around me are married or dating. It's just that none of us have ever centered dating in our lives. We did that before "decentering" was a word. And tbh I think this just a very succinct and easy way to say "I don't center Romance or sex. I center my own happiness. And if roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:15 PM
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Disassociate and decentering are two very different things. But let's go with your logic. Decentering isn't good. Okay. What advice would you give that allows someone to prioritize their own life goals, refuse to care about any and all sexist opinions of the other gender, while also keeping in mind that they should try to love happy and full lives first. And while a relationship is good, you shouldn't make your self smaller and be someone you are not for the sake of a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:53 PM
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And all red pill men start of as wanting self improvement So self improvement is a pre-requisite to being redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:46 PM
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But then decentering isn't the issue at all. The issue is sexism. Decentering is healthy. Self improvement is healthy. You should improve your self. If you fall into the redpill trap that's your own fault for being stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:16 PM
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It's by definition not equal unless you are implying that doing housework with all modern conveniences has the same complexity as earning money for a full household in modern economy. If providing in money is inherently "more valuable" than being a housewife, why should a woman be a housewife? You can still respectfully treat your wife but both of you can acknowledge that earning money for a full household is way harder than taking care of household chores with all the modern technology that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:14 PM
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So you're telling me that a SAHP dynamic can never be equal? Because that to me is a fallacy. I've seen SAHP dynamics where the provider treats his wife as an equal decision making partner and values her contributions to the household equally. He will, in fact, tell everyone that he thinks she workers harder than him and contributes more than him by creating a safe and peaceful home. He has ensured that she will always be financially secure by depositting money in an account only in her name. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:03 PM
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Decentering in and of itself isn't sexist. Decentering just means living life the way you want to and not because the other gener wants that. If anything I think it leads to less sexism, because then it isn't someone going in and letting the other gender's sexist expectations run their lives. Like I don't care if men don't like my make up. So when men make side comments about what they like in women I just don't care and do what I want anyway. I don't care if men want a "nice agreeable woman". T…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:57 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/datablog/2025/nov/28/gen-z-sex-dating-relationships What's your sources? Trust me bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:44 PM
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Why would a woman be promiscuous without a high sex drive? Lmao imagine the logic. Hey! I don't really like having sex! But I have soooo much sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:33 PM
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What in the actual lol. Mate it's very easy to look this up There's a percentage of women that will be high sex drive and bring up the stats. There's a percentage of women who don't and have either 0 or 1 sexual partners And then there's the middle ground who probably have 2-7 partners in their entire life. Assuming you live until you're 90 that's 1 partner every 22 years. Get a grip
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:26 PM
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No. Men die. Then what? What happens if his version of "take care" is provide money and nothing else? The version of taken care of that I want is a man who is emotionally intelligent, doesn't raise his voice, always values my contributions as equal to his no matter what, treats me as a fully equal decision making partner etc. The moment he even implies once about how hard he works to provide I'd be applying for jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:21 PM
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Agreed. The only way paper abortions make sense is when women have equal agency. I think the problem with that is that people haven't thought through accessibility Let's say a 14 year old boy gets a 14 year old girl pregnant. For access to be equal to his default opt out then she has to be able to get to a clinic easy even at 14 That means she needs to be able to get to a clinic without a parent driving her there. She needs to be able to get to a clinic, in theory without having to tell her pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:48 AM
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I'd agree, but only if actual abortion was free and it could be accessed super easily and with no barriers. Having men get the free, easy route seems ridiculous if women don't have the same free, easy route Literally every town would need to have a free, easy access to abortion. And men can't go and do a takesis backsies after the kid was born. I knew so many deadbeat dads who said they didn't want to have kids come back at 14+ years going "but I'm the dad! You can't keep my kids away from me!" …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:39 PM
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I guess the question here is how do you use the term "settle?" For me "settling" implies that I'm with someone because the alternative is being alone or worse. I also think that in essence I wouldn't like to be settled for. No, I am not perfect. But the implications there is that if someone better had come along, I wouldn't be the person they were with. They'd choose someone else over me. I don't like that framework at all. When I date someone I'm not thinking of "the ways they could be better, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:52 AM
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I personally don't care about the downsides. I'm a 30 years old man with no college education and no trades I learned. Further to my previous point. You're saying you personally don't care about the downsides because you're already in a low wage job. Which when we are talking about value you're essentially saying that a low wage job is about equal value to being a stay at home parent. Logically you've actually made the case for why it's not power and nor is it particularly valued Would your feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:34 AM
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And again, we could say that femininity IS already rewarded with this extra additional opportunity, which is widely speaking much more available to them than to men Again. Nothing to do with "additional opportunity" if they were not actively rewarded for it by society with some sort of power. Since she is not being awarded power, rather an "opportunity" to give up power then it does not count Are you sorry for my opressive conditioning too, or.. Yes I am. Even if you were not actively discrimina…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:32 PM
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If you chose to be essentially the support of an individual, that person is basically your "employer", it's between you and them. Like, who else should pay you? The government? Then they should pay my depressed uneployed brother too who lives with his parents whenever he washes the dishes. At least a little, right? I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm saying that it's a traditionally feminine job that is not rewarded legally or economically by society. By definition being a stay at home parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:32 PM
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Put this way If i work a job and provide for my self (considered masculine) sure i could lose my job, but I can apply for a new one, I could use my savings to move countries etc. I also get to buy myself what I can within my purchasing power If I have no job and I am at home doing the stay at home mum thing (considered feminine), if my husband chooses to not give me money I can't do anything about it. If he raises his voice I can't do anything about it. If he cheats on me, I know that when we di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:10 PM
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By having legal and economic systems giving traditionally feminine traits actual power Actual power is not power that is affected by someone else's whims. Money for example. If I had a lot of money I can buy a lot of things: good food, good housing The more money I have, the more powerful I am. For example Elon Musk. Soft power (men catering to the whims of women for example) is dependent on the feelings and wants of a man. It doesn't matter how good or nurturing or feminine you are if your husb…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:13 PM
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I never said it was efficient. Just saying that there aren't rules to it really. The "rules" people talk about "don't approach here, only approach when..." Only happens because people aren't socially capable. The more socially capable you are, the less rules apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:57 PM
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Regardless of your social skills is the biggest problem* here For example who decides what is respectful and honest? Respectful tends to mean backing off once discomfort has even shown. But if you can't sense the discomfort because its not overt it won't end well at all. And men can argue that women need to be more direct or women need to do this or that... But that's not going to help the man in that situation right there now is it? What's honest? What if what is honest for you is a whole scree…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:23 AM
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If you are socially capable and good at reading the room and adjusting you can ask people out almost anywhere except work. Because by definition you are able to make the conversation comfortable, easy and can easily pick up on signals that tells you she's not interested. If you are not socially capable, the answer is nowhere because then cold approaches are the equivalent of cold callers who won't let you hang up the phone. And it will range from making her uncomfortable, to annoying her, to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:28 AM
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I actually think the conversation isn't necessarily about whether low or high birth rates are good or bad. I think that accessible and affordable contraception and abortion should be a right and enshrined as part of healthcare. But we should also be looking at the different reasons people are having children. Because those choices aren't made in a vaccum. Yes some people naturally just don't want children. I don't think that makes them psychologically unwell. Some people are just not up for that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:14 AM
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They prove they value their housewives by literally paying for everything and selecting against women who they may prefer to have sex with, but wouldn’t give up their careers. They literally, by your own admission, value provision higher that household labour. Just because they chose a housewife doesn't mean they value her work. They could for example, value the fact that she is vulnerable. You could say that am abusive man will chose a housewife because he has the leverage to abuse her. That do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:47 AM
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It’s still a privilege because most people hate their jobs and they wish they could even have children to begin with, let alone actually raise them like a mother. Not particularly. A privilege is a privilege because it is valuable. Yes most people would want to not have to work. But also that would come with the caveat of being able to spend money and the power that comes with that. For example a trust fund in their name or being independently wealthy. You can argue that some people want to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:53 AM
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It’s a privilege to get to wake up in a nice home, in a safe area, with access to resources for all that you need, and the ability to actually raise your own children like human beings were supposed to. It's not a privilege if society and culture penalizes you for it. Again, this is not about "what I believe" or "what I say." Its about legal and financial systems. You can't say the childrearing is a privilege if it isn't valuable. It's a privilege to be able to travel to a different country, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:31 AM
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Is it a privilege? Again they're doing work that society believes in less valuable and sacrificing their own financial stability, making them vulnerable. I don't think that's a privilege at all, unless they have married a millionaire and will be getting half in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:18 AM
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Personally, I view both roles as being equally important, in a symbiotic sense. It just doesn’t make sense to pay someone to raise their own children. You've just said that they aren't as valuable. This is the thing that peeves me off. Men will say over and over and over again about how much they value a woman who will stay home and nurture their children They will also get mad, offended etc when women decide not to do this and choose to put their children in daycare. But then! Push comes to sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:18 AM
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Hmmm... So your position there would then be that provision and making money is more valuable. Being a housewife is less valuable than being a provider. But women should choose to be stay at home mothers anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:45 AM
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I am trying to ascertain the value of traditionally feminine labour vs money. If being a housewife is less valuable and less important than the job of making money then men should be upfront about it. I find many men claim that a housewife and stay at home parent is something valuable and how horrible feminism is because they told women that being a SAHM is something bad. Yet over and over again men on this sub (and elsewhere) also imply that provision, money, and paying taxes are more valuable …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:40 AM
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I'll be honest... Because everyone is a coward I'm not entirely sure why a text message saying no to a second/third/fourth date is so unsafe. They already have your details, so it's not like it's any less safe now. You can just say "sorry didn't feel the vibe" or something Likely it's two things: people are uncomfortable giving bad news people are afraid the man will pressure for more details that they don't want to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:15 AM
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So money is more valuable, so both parents should work correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:10 AM
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And I'm saying that if money is more valuable then logically just leave the babies on their own You can't have it both ways right? Either unpaid labour at home (child rearing included) is equally as important as earning money, which is why it makes sense to have someone at home Or it's not as important so it's better if both parents work. And you either pay someone else to look after the kids or you just leave them at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:39 PM
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I don't think anyone would. This isn't a male or female issue. It's a human issue. Humans generally have a hard time being introspective and learning to get better. I do think pockets of growing and getting better such as exercising etc does happen as we get more mature, but let's face it life can get in the way and so can other responsibilities. In terms of advice specifically to appeal to the opposite gender, I actually struggle to believe that you should do this at all. Male or female. I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:37 PM
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Okay. So how many people showed up to support her. Then I want you to count how many people voted for Donald Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:01 AM
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Or just leave the children at home alone. Who cares if they're young or if they're babies. Taking care of them is less important than making money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:22 AM
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If men believe that bringing in money is more valuable than the contribution of a house wife in labour and childcare, then men really don't have a leg to stand on in asking for a housewife. Why would anyone want to be financially vulnerable and make career sacrifices to stay at home to do work that is not valued by their partner or society?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:59 AM
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A sub genre of the feministic women are also gold diggers and follow influencers like that. Teaching them how to manipulate men. They don't have any moral ground to complain So feminist women who are not gold diggers have a moral ground to complain, regardless of income of their husbands? Again I am using your logic here. You said you think that morall a woman can't really complain and want equality if they choose a "stronger" partner. Is that your position? If so I want you to be able to articu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:21 AM
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So the only reason I qualify is because I earn more. Gotcha. So a woman should only be allowed to complain if they get together with someone who earns less than them. If for example a teacher (earns at midpoint $75k NZD) met a man who was a plumber (80-85k NZD) she can't date him or else she can never complain about the patriarchy, or any unfair or unequal treatment. What an interesting logic! Imagine that! "Sorry man, I really like you! We have great chemistry, we vibe, we have compatible value…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:29 AM
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I feel like you can't complain of patriarchy, when you choose to be oppressed yourself. So what conditions are women allowed to complain about the patriarchy? Put myself - I earn more than my husband But I'm a short woman. I'm not even close to average. I'm 2 inches away from meeting the height definition of dwarfism (I am not medically a dwarf, that's a genetic disorder, I'm just a very short woman). Because of that literally every man I have ever met is taller than me. I am also, as you point …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:51 AM
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that you can't imagine women being ungrateful for a man's economic contribution, which I find curious, given that you did recognize that "most human beings have a tendency to be ungrateful." Because in our current capitalist society money is power. If a woman is ungrateful to a husband who works hard that makes her a bad wife. But she still has less power than her husband. In the event of a divorce he has a stronger financial position. Sure it could hurt him, but he can certainly recover faster …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:04 AM
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I'm not saying men are evil. I'm saying your logic means men are evil. Your logic is that women are naturally submissive because men are stronger If submission is because of men's strength, then it's because of force If it is because of force then we can then argue that the natural state of men is to be forceful. Which means they use force or the threat of force to make women submissive. Which means men are evil and misandry is correct. Or women are not naturally submissive. Choose
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:59 AM
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Women, and especially girls who express a desire to be a housewife, are treated as though there is something fundamentally wrong with them. I've found that very rarely gave I heard anyone treat it as fundamentally wrong Generally it depends on the conversations or how it was framed. A woman who might have expressed an opinion that women should stay at home or a belief about women's roles or whatever that might be will be met with disdain yes. For obvious reasons Women who express a desire to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:06 AM
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If my choices are be financially dependent and less money vs a shorter life I'll take the shorter life. Seriously. The amount of stay at home mums who were left with nothing because their husbands died, cheated, or has to stay in absolutely miserable marriages before women gained financial independence is staggering. And you know what, unless you married a millionaire no amount of divorce or alimony money is going to be enough to live on and compensate for loss income. Not to mention not hanging…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:46 AM
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Men are bigger and stronger than women. Some are hard scientific facts. You can out of conscience take a kind approach to women. But it is what it is. That's why women are often submissive. So men's default state is aggressive and therefore all men are evil? If the argument is that men are more dominant because they're stronger then the idea is men rule by rule of force This means by definition misandrist are right and men are by default evil and aggressivem So either men aren't ruling by force,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:59 PM
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How about this... I will be as equally grateful for men's contributions to society IF and ONLY IF men are equally grateful for contributions of women in society. EQUALLY That means if a man ever said "women are submissive" then he inherently believes women are lesser than men. Which is not the same level of gratefulness at all I refuse to give any respect or gratefulness to men if they don't equally value, respect and be grateful to the women who traditionally got pregnant for 9 months, have bir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:46 AM
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Sex isn't about being "inclusive" it's about being attractive to the person you want to a have sex with. Shaming someone into having sex with you is basically just being rapey. That's like shaming Japanese person for preferring someone they can actually talk to and have a conversation with instead of someone who they can only understand 10% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:35 AM
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Either safety nets are rights or safety nets shouldn't exist for anyone That means that as a society we should be okay with children dying and starving in the street, elderly people dying in the street and if anyone is injured at work or is disabled they should also be thrown out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:41 AM
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There’s alimony and child support. There is power. You’re acting like the vast majority of men just run away with no consequence. That's only on divorce and only if there was a legal partnership. And also alimony is very rarely awarded and certainly doesn't last long enough to compensate for leaving the job market And also lawyers to get you good alimony and child support cost money. Which again, not everyone can afford So no, that is not power. And certainly not the same amount of power as work…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:37 AM
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but in reality, she is getting monetary value in living a lifestyle that she likes, mainly not having to clock into a job, getting food and shelter paid for, etc That's assuming she has a good husband who is able to afford that lifestyle. It also assumes the husband doesn't die. That is not power. So unless you are filthy rich and can quit your job for the rest of your life, most of us live the exact same way, or we don’t actually have power over our jobs because without our job, we wouldn’t hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:07 AM
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I just also believe that what people and society value is measured in how much power or resources are devoted to it. In essence value is measured by whatever society uses to gain power. The kind of power that isn't reliant on someone else. In our capitalistic system value is measured in money. Because money lets you have power. A woman who is rewarded by "a good husband" is dependent on her husband's kindness but has no power of her own. But a woman rewarded with money, does what she wants with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:39 AM
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in fact, they hurt more because they live longer than men But men seem to be okay with that because they don't value child rearing, education, social work and other roles. Way I see it either I'm belittled and told that I should be grateful for men's taxes (women are a net drain on taxes) or were both fucked. Why should I suffer and you not? Want children? Pay for them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:06 AM
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I agree with you about no one holding a gun to our heads about children I'm coming to realise that men and society really don't value child rearing and taking care of the elderly. If society doesn't value the sacrifice (being a net drain on taxes because of children or other support roles) I really wish women would come to their senses and stop applying for those roles and stop having children. Women should say that unless society counts their contribution as something as important as money then…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:42 AM
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I assume it can adapt because a lot of what is attractive is defined by culture. If your culture prioritizes lighter skin or an athletic frame those are what most people will be attracted to. In saying that, if the community around you doesn't reflect what is considered "attractive" then I'm not sure if what happens is the bar of attraction goes lower or if people just settle because those around them are "good enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:37 AM
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The problem you're having is equating the thought process of looking good as advertising for male attention. Like I want to look good, and yes generally that's following whateber society culturally says "looks good" But I absolutely do not care about men. It's not for them. I'd rather they ignore me and my outfit entirely. I want the attention of my girls and my gays. I genuinely do not want men to feel anything when looking at me. I am happy being an NPC in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:42 PM
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Western "passport bros" just want a woman. Albeit they will be expected to probably carry out feminine duties. If the guy is rich they don't even need to do anything. If they expect feminine duties in return then the woman isn't valued just by existing. Her value lies in whether she'll put out
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:35 PM
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Probably the same answer? This is literally a very mainstream response in just about every feminist subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:45 AM
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Men should automatically be eligible to be in one. Women aren't automatically eligible to be in a relationship either. No women would accept a man without a job even if he COOKS I've never met a man willing to accept a woman with no job either even if she cooks. Those that have stay at home partners I know didn't get into a relationship with an unemployed woman. She usually had a job and then she took time off to have children. She also then went back to work. If she didn't it was usually a join…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:39 AM
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Is misandry a real issue? Yes, just not the way redpillers and manosphereans seem to believe. I believe that society does men a disservice because we raise them into believing that they can't have emotions, aren't able to form bonds with each other, and that their worth is in sex and money. I also think that we should think about how boys are struggling in school. But its not just about boys but so as much as looking into how we can make school better for those who don't fit into the mainstream …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:35 AM
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If they are your partner. You would want them beside you for their hand picked food and if you care about them bringing money If they were my partner they would treat me like an equal and we would be equal partners. They would not demand I cook and I would not demand that they hunt. Because we would be in a relationship where household labour is divided equally and equitably. It feels so selfish to feed myself i want to share with someone special So cook for them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:16 AM
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Why do I care if random dudes don't want to enjoy a meal with me? And if you have a stomach to feed go ahead and feed it yourself You can't like a man is physically incapable of cooking. If a man is unable to cook by following a recipe he shouldn't be allowed to work any job that involves following instructions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:55 AM
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It's as ridiculous as you claiming women have to cook If you hold me to old traditional standards I will hold you to old traditional standards So many men want a tradwife but aren't willing to be a trad husband. If a man wants me to cook, he better go hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:51 AM
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You're making sound like that would make me disagree. Yes if men want to go their own way they are free to do so The problem is that they never seem to just go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:11 AM
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If it's not that hard you do it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:51 AM
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I would then say that all men need to physically go out and hunt me dinnee for free with a spear or a bow and arrow. If you want me to adhere to old traditional roles I will expect the same. I don't want no office job. I want whole damn house, food on the table, but from a man who farmers everything by hand, builds everything by hand and hunts via spear. Otherwise the argument is invalid. I'd also say that parents who didn't teach their sons to cook are failures at parenting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:50 AM
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I don't care. Dating and relationships are voluntary. Find maintaining a relationship is too much work? That's fine, don't have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:08 PM
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Talking to other women is not the same as posting pictures, going to clubs or whatever the heck this is And tbh if you didn't like those behaviours don't approach a woman who is single and does those behaviours Don't want your gf to go to the club? Don't date a girl who likes clubbing Don't want a gf that dresses a certain way? Don't date her. It is so incredibly simple
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:07 PM
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I think you are right in a sense. The to go bag was necessary in previous times. I don't think it's necessary now unless you're with someone who is abusive. I think if you're a stay at home parent with children there are ways you can protect yourself from being in poverty if you end up in a divorce or if your husband dies. Things like pre-nups, ensuring your name is on the title of the house, child support etc. and all those things should be out in the open. I'm sorry if you can't talk about tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:43 AM
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It says a lot about you. That you're someone who revels in other people's pain Personally I think someone who misjudged someone is less of a bad person than someone who laughs and takes joy in pain This is why any man who calls themselves a good guy is generally not good. You are a glowing exhibit A
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:26 PM
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I'm a woman and I will leave any and all men who demand submission. If it was "natural" there would be no culture, no religion and zero violence needed to enforce submission. The fact that women have to be told this, shamed, or forced into "submission" means it's not natural No one has to shame me to have a period. It just happens because it's natural. No one needs to shame me into pissing because it's natural. And if feminine is submission then it is a bad thing. Because it makes vulnerable to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:09 PM
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I do and part of that is questioning that weird fucked up logic Feminine does not mean stick things in hole what in the actual fuck Tbh thats the kind of thought process that makes a lot of women to not be feminine at all. Because we get reduced down to things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:59 PM
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What the actual fuck is that logic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:52 PM
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Do you know what sneaky anal is? It's rape You just lauged at rape and found joy in it Congratulations you are such a nice guy /s (in case the people on here are too stupid get sarcasm).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:51 PM
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I will say what I always say, no matter how controversial. Whether or not you think they have options doesn't matter. Whether you want a friendship, a relationship, Fwb, situationship, casual, or polyamory, the question will always end up the same. Is the juice worth the squeeze? That's it. That's all that matters. Baseline, you need to make the person happier with you in their life than without you. Full stop. It doesn't matter if you think they're punching above their league. It doesn't matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:36 AM
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So what if they don't commit I'm not here to be in any relationship. I'm here to be in a relationship that adds to my life. If you add more stress (aka make me doubt 1% your fidelity to me) and make living with you worse than living without you The moment my life with you is 1% worse than my life single, I'm not sticking around. And boy, I have more friends than I can count. When I was sick my friends drop off food and clean my house and vice versa. I'm in two sports clubs and travel domesticall…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:20 AM
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I agree. It's actually why I think people should be very clear about their desires and dealbreakers as early as possible. Like some people are low libido, some are high, some might be in the middle. Some are responsive, some are not If the man feels like once a week is not healthy and is way too little and the woman doesn't feel like that's possible maybe it's time to see if they should break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:13 AM
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I made clear very early on the importance of trust. Any breach of trust ends the relationship. If he wasn't upfront about "sex on tap" or "more than once a week" would lead to cheating that is on him for being avoidant Make it clear what will happen in the event of less than "x amount" of sex or you're a coward and an avoidant. Dealbreakers on the table baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:07 AM
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It's not avoidance. It's having self respect. I will never allow any disrespect towards me. And cheating is disrespectful. Standing up for yourself is courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:01 AM
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Nope. If anything I'm so secure that as a woman I would leave immediately. I will only do relationship with full trust. I don't care if you're with another woman because I will take you at your word that you're friends. Hell, spend a night in the same room with one. I'm okay with that even Why? Because I am 100% sure you won't cheat. And I expect the same trust vice versa. I have 99% trust instead of 100%? Well, we have a prenup for a reason. I've ended relationships for less
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:57 AM
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Yes I would protest. Because I find having lots of cuddles, kisses and hugs more important than sex. But I won't be entitled to them in the sense that I will pressure someone to give them to me. I will just be honest and leave them. Men are free to do the same with sex if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:52 AM
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Or you get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:47 AM
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Not me that said that. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:42 AM
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On that case, why doesn't he prioritize my needs over sex? If indeed your partner's needs come at the top. Or does this only apply to when men want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:32 AM
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And tbh I always feel wary about "his needs" or "my love language is touch" If you need affection and love why aren't your needs being met by cuddles, kisses and hugs? Those are all intimate fun couple things. But somehow it's always sex Like I believe sex is important. I like sex too. I wouldn't be in a fully sexless relationship. But if your love language or your needs basically boil down to sex I don't want it. We aren't compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:28 AM
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Well I was very attracted and jumped into bed immediately But also if I'm not happy, relaxed and fulfilled sex is just at the bottom of my list. And feeling pressured or having to be convinced into it is annoying. Some of us just aren't super sexual in that way. You might be. Not everyone else might be. Ever thought that not everyone is you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:24 AM
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If I'm stressed, mad, pissed off, resentful or tired I do not want sex If someone tried to convince me because for them it relives stress what it will do is piss me off Actually attempting to convince me to have sex after I've said no is likely to annoy me and delay the next session. And if it keeps happening it will lead to a dead bedroom. Because congratulations it's now a chore that I get annoyed by 🎉🎉🎉 Sorry not sorry. I have responsive desire. I need to be happy, relaxed, and not stressed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:18 AM
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I think it can probably be boiled down somewhere to the fact you’re also trying to build or rather maintain lust/desire but in my mind by keeping to that minimum you’re half way there. I actually think it's the opposite. Most people start at attraction and lust. And love. But it turns out aren't down for the hard yakka once the honeymoon period disappears and life happens. Or when one of you are working towards something and they aren't. And yes, part of that is how you and your partner experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:55 PM
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No I love her, but we have different life goals, different beliefs, different wants. And living with her would be so annoying I'd break up within a week. For one she doesn't want children and I want one. Immediate deal breaker. I also don't like her parents. That's not a problem in our friendship because I never have to see her parents. I've seen them in person 4 times in 8 years. But once you're in a relationship that's serious enough that's family dinners and Christmas and birthdays.... I'd le…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:51 AM
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A lot. To be my friend we have to get along, do things together and enjoy each other's company We also visit each other when sick, cook food for each other when people are sick or struggling, help each other move houses, be emotional support, validate emotions, but also give advice and tell them they're being dumb, have initiative and reciprocate hang out invitations, go on trips together etc etc etc If a man can give me all of that at a minimum and also: - do his fair share of the chores - be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:35 AM
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That doesn't correlate with all the other RP talking points though. RP literally has things like dread game, women are the oldest teenager in the house, overcome her last minute resistance to sex, all women are like this etc That's just general mainstream self improvement that can be found everywhere. Like I'm asian too, but moving on and not chasing nos aren't revolutionary at all. Yeah maybe the be shallow part isn't a thing, but tbh there were still fuck boys around my school/ university in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:29 PM
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Intresting idea, but you're conflating two different ideas. MGTOW or decentering women is different from keeping silent against oppression. For example, I can decenter men from my life in the sense that I dont care for male approval. I dont change myself or do things because of men. If a man cares about me and shows that, I will reciprocate. But i won't go out of my way otherwise. At the same time, I would also believe that the default custody (except in cares of abuse, neglect etc) should by 50…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:02 AM
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bad boy red flag willing instead of them the undesirable nice guy. This makes me laugh because I think I know maybe one or two real life examples of bad boy red flag daters. And tbh their issues were either because they had an unstable house growing up or it was the opposite and they came from completely conservative homes where they weren't used to autonomy. Turns out when you grow up with a patriarchal traditional values home it's easy to mix up domineering/ controlling and traditional masculi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:24 AM
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Not the way you worded your post no, that's not how you came across. There is a lot of nuance to rape and rape accusations. For the most part the biggest issues are when no one even bothers investigating because "he's a nice guy." And "maybe it's your own fault for acting some way/ wearing something" In the UK courts a lawyer paraded around a victim's underwear because women who wear lacy underwear clearly want to be raped. Should we believe male rape victims the same way we should believe femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:10 AM
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Respond to the actual point please instead of made up phrases
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:03 AM
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I agree! But only if every man accused of rape have their career and reputation be destroyed. But you know, Trump is president of the USA and several athletes are still playing so.....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:00 AM
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Peter feminists could argue that true equality means women can rape men too? You know like me? But hey, can't expect everyone to have a brain
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:01 PM
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Afghanistan wasn't always a full shit show. Ithere were a lot of factors that led to it becoming what it is now. Regardless it shows that men's natural state is oppressive against women. Despite what men here imply, a patriarchal society will not protect and be grateful for feminine motherly nurturing women. This is a great post because it should remind women that feminism and our rights is fragile and we need to always be on our guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:43 PM
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And sure that needs to be changed, it does not change the fact that feminism is needed in order for me to not end up oppressed like a woman in Afghanistan If anything your post had driven home exactly why feminism needs to be stronger and pushed more. It needs to be changed to be better, but it must always be fought for. Otherwise we end up like Afghanistan. It's proof that men are not benevolent as a natural state.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:41 PM
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Feminism is the reason I can vote, work, have marital rape be crime, and let's me be independent If men are alienated by that then they can't be trusted to be cooperative. They'll stop cooperating the moment the bangmaid service works. As you have nicely illustrated by your post, men's natural state is not benevolent. It's not to be gentle and it's not to be good. It's oppressive. The men angered and alienated by feminism will be alienated by female independence and freedom. They will not be coo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:34 PM
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Agreed that the Taliban shows us that our rights are fragile. That's why feminism should always be on guard and is always needed. That's why we shouldn't let men convince us that we don't need feminism any more. We should always need feminism. Because places like Afghanistan shows us that men aren't to be trusted to be "benevolent" when push comes to shove. The natural state of men isn't "oh men would be grateful and treat women honorably" or whatever bullshit Never believe men when they say the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:03 PM
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Blue pill is "mainstream beliefs" This comes from the matrix aka do you believe what everyone does or do you take the red pill and learn the "truth" Now from what I understand pink pill is just redpill for women. So both red and pink believe in biological truths and prescriptive strategies to generalize women (redpill) or men (pink pill) and use these to try and get what they want. My issue with both is that they're both fairly prescriptive. And redpill is full of eco psych bullshit. I know at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:57 AM
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And I'm one of those people within it and I choose to talk about it Also imagine not wanting to be part of a solution to help reduce and prevent rape Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:31 AM
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Nope Rape prevention is a societal issue. It is the issue of every person who lives in a society That includes men and women who are part of the general population. Going to the police for help happens after the fact. Making a cultural force that ensures it is drilled into everyone that rape happens and that rape isn't just "back alley rape" it's family members, it's friends, it's trusted people helps prevention If men are so uncomfortable about rape that they refuse to be part of the solution, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:55 AM
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Nope. It's too serious an issue to sweep under the rug just because men feel uncomfortable with it You are of course free in a personal level to disengage with people you aren't comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:50 AM
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In bed and everyone consenting? Fine I don't care about what other people do in bed As a lifestyle? I don't think it's healthy and fair necessarily because it depends on the people, the circumstances, or the attitude behind it. Same with religion. You can have a healthy and non toxic religion and you can have a unhealthy and a bad one. If this is something everyone consents to whole heatedly yes, that seems healthy to me. If someone in the space looks down on people who aren't into bdsm then no …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:05 AM
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Okay If that's the case then there should be zero domestic violence, zero men abusing their ability to make money over their partners, zero men going "you're spending my money, zero men ever holding any power over the heads of any women, zero men taking advantage Zero Because the only way that system works is if the people with lesser capital (aka the people who work without pay or lesser pay) are never taken advantage of in any way shape or form Like it or not we live in a capillary society and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:17 PM
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That's you to him to decide now isn't it? I suppose on paper we contribute the same things, we both work 40 hours and we both split the chores. We're both social etc. Unlike men in ppd, I don't hold the fact that I make more than him over his head. I also do run around screaming that me making almost twice him means he has to make up for it with housework. It's called equity, even if PPD men aren't able to understand the word. Intangible things would be something he'd have to articulate himself.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:08 PM
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I personally would hate knowing I am having sex with someone who doesn't 100% want to have sex with me. It defeats the purpose. It turns me off and makes me feel bad. On the other hand, I refuse to have penetrative sex if I don't orgasm regularly. I don't orgasm vaginally. Never have. I have found that most of what I like is oral. So in that case, we will be a celibate couple. But I also enjoy sex. Either the man fakes 100% enjoyment of oral to the point I am not aware of any issues whatsoever o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:31 PM
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Depends on the them. I'd say it's more ethical to break up than have sex you know the other doesn't want. Personally I think it's cringe to have any sex act done that I know the other person doesn't enjoy. It feels off and rape adjacent. But I also won't stay in a less than satisfactory relationship. So I'd probably just break up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:46 PM
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None of the above. Most people want companionship and a partner. Most people ( at least in the West) prefer monogamy. Successful polygamous relationships need a lot of communication and compromise and emotional maturity to work. Or they need oppressive patriarchal structures. You either have a lot of maturity to navigate the emotions and lives of multiple people or you're an oppressive fucker. What will happen is that there will be a lot more of non-traditional monogamy in additional to traditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:46 AM
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Again, what is blue pill advice specifically? Blue pill is just "mainstream" aka, what the majority of people in mainstream society believe. Red pill likes to say that blue pill is just "be nice!" Or "work hard!" And those are not mainstream advice anywhere except the school yard. Most mainstream advice is about being the best version of yourself. Not just "be nice." Like yes look at your weight and be healthy. But also doing that is good for yourself anyway. Its about not forcing yourself to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 10:56 PM
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You largely won't find women having sympathy or empathy for the fact men are half the domestic abuse victims. You largely won't find women having sympathy or empathy for the fact men are near half of all the rape victims. You largely won't find women having sympathy or empathy for the fact men are 80% of suicide victims. Disagree. If anything almost all comments on articles with male rape victims where the rapist is a woman tends to be teeming with men saying how they wish they were the victim. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:33 AM
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My argument boils down to "women who demand men care endlessly about any and all of women's issues no matter how small, while refusing to give men back even an ounce of empathy or sympathy, are massive hypocrites who need to be called out as such". Okay What ounce of empathy or sympathy in specific are you asking for? One that isn't "date us" or " be okay with men making you uncomfortable" and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:08 AM
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Remember what issues exactly? Remember what issues the next time I want men to care about my actual human right to work, vote, be free from violence, education and health care? You can't just keep saying misandry and women nothaveing sympathy for men's issues if you don't tell is what issues we're supposed to care about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:24 PM
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And it's funny how men are conatenrly told to take women seriously, to believe women, to listen to women's lived experiences, and yet most women seem utterly unwilling to do for men the very thing they demand from men. Not really. Women want safety and to have equal human rights. Like the right to work Men want relationships and sex. One of those things is not like the other. And your arguments boil down to "women who don't date men are just as oppressive and evil as people who make Jim crow law…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:09 PM
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Maybe make better arguments then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:56 PM
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I'm short enough that 5 inches shorter would be someone medically considered a dwarf. But also 10 years younger is icky because my age also means that going that young violates the half my age and add 7 rule. And just few years shy of being a minor. I mean I guess younger if I absolutely had to choose? And only because they'd still be above 21. Barley above, but above.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:43 AM
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Yes I do But, and this is a but, redemption isn't deserved. It's something people seek without expectation If I hurt someone, I have no right to expect forgiveness. But I work towards making up for my mistakes without the expectation of forgiveness or closure from the people I hurt. I find that too many people expect that because they changed or apologized or went to therapy or found God people should forgive them. That's not how redemption works. If you expect it, then I don't think they've rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:08 PM
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Because I don't want to Why would I need a 10 commandments for that? My body is mine and I don't see why someone else being sad makes them entitled to use my body for themselves especially when the act of doing so can be painful or uncomfortable And yes for the record any and all sex acts are uncomfortable and painful for me if I do it with someone I am not in a committed relationship with. So again, why should I?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:12 PM
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Oh yeah hate it when it happens with friends too I'll be honest. There's this sweet spot for me where I know someone enough to be attracted to them and also don't know them enough to put them in the friendzone so to speak. You can hate it all you want, but dating is voluntary and people have the right to only want to date on their terms. I'm was never looking for a lot of dates. I want something with someone who fits me. So I didn't care about anything that made me a smidgen uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:29 PM
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Choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:49 PM
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Why would I want to let a man use my body in any way for pity? I'm a human being, not a thing to give away because someone is sad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:22 AM
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Define help? Help as in give advice? Help as in tolerate woe is me? Help as in be okay with misogynistic attitudes? Help as in have sex with? Define help
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:39 AM
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Eh my personal theory is that people are on the apps when they want to be on the apps. So they're in the frame of mind where they want to meet someone. Things are happening on their terms essentially. On the other hand a cold approach while on public transport or in the grocery might not be in that frame of mind. They might be annoyed or just want to finish their task or get somewhere. And personally I find cold approaches to quick and pressuring. Like I have to give an answer quickly in a situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:28 AM
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Honestly.... It depends on how she even wants to be approached While I found cold approaches flattering l have never once given them a chance. I'd say it's because I just never found the appeal in getting to know or date a stranger in that way. I find in real life I met enough people organically that I've never really needed it. Approaching me as an acquaintance first made me feel more comfortable and made me more open to connection. Many of my friends tend to either meet organically or through …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:42 PM
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Following direction, being told what to do and asking for advice are very different things Is it a work thing? Obviously I get told what to do by my boss. My husband would also be told what to do by his boss. Because that's how we get paid For advice? Well it depends on the advice. For example my dad is a lot more handy than my husband. My husband grew up in a family that could afford a plumber. My dad did not. If something breaks, for sure I'd call my dad. On the other hand is it something abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:41 AM
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You still learn something new from it. Maybe socializing, some new tips and tricks to survive and create basic tools etc. No you really don't I camp a lot. Both for fun and because I like to hike. It's literally stick peg in ground. Set up tent. Cook with camp stove. Or if you have a campfire stick potatoes in tin foil and stick it in fire. Most campsites have water you can boil in a pot. If you know how to boil water and use a hammer like a 7 year old you can camp. I didn't even need to know ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:09 AM
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I agree! Sometimes getting better at something is part of the fun But this is not for everyone People have fun differently. I don't see why hobbies necessarily need to be something skilled or hard or whatever Just people who want to do what they want to do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:53 AM
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It's fun, but it also requires you to be better and you learn from experience. Not necessarily My friend is a lawyer. Her days involve a lot of thinking She reads a lot of trashy romance books. She knows these romance books are trashy But she enjoys them. It makes her day brighter. It's not hard. It doesn't expand the horizons. Who cares? She enjoys them and it's fun. Camping in a camp ground requires barely any skill. Trust me. Anyone can do it. But some people like it Again, a hobby doesn't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:41 AM
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Why does it require hard work or expertise? Why can't a hobby just be fun? Like I agree that you should be doing something other than doom scrolling or video games Some people just like reading books or they just like fishing or whatever. There's no need to make something hard or be good or at something Why can't someone who does a lot of weekend camping not have a hobby? It's fun, it can be social and it requires no expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:09 PM
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It's happened to me before and I felt pretty flattered, but I generally don't entertain cold approaches so I turned them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:37 PM
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In the same way your average PPD man is representative of mainstream men I don't know about you, but the men I work with are for the most part partnered and/or married. A lot of people around me are partnered/married (and I'm in my early 30s) Are there people around me who are chronically single? Yes, but it's not the dire crisis that it's being made out to be. And honestly a lot of those who are, seem to have their own reasons for being chronically single. Like having the social skills of the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 09:53 PM
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Because lots of people generally get together at 15/16? So as long as we kept the bedroom door open and we came home before curfew everything was good. Besides my grandparents and my parents aren't stupid. They know what teens do. They'd rather I be honest than hjde. Because hiding is how girls get taken advantage of or raped. They basically made sure I knew that no matter what they'd rather I call them for help than try to hide from them and make things worse. And absolutely they'd rather I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:44 AM
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I mean, a man is going to frown at every relationship when it involves his young daughter. Then why was my grandpa okay with my same age boyfriend but turned into a rage after my cousin brought home a guy 5 years older when she was 15? Let's be honest here, many parents/grandparents/brothers know that age gap relationships are a big don't red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:09 PM
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You attacking or trying to talk men out of a movement because for what past men did But it's not past men that's the point Your point was that red pill is a reaction and that the fault lies with feminism as feminism is the root cause of the red pill. My point was that feminism was reactionary and the root cause was that past and present systems were put in place that oppressed women and gave power (hard power and systematic power) to men and men abuse it. You then argued that I put the blame on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:10 PM
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Ah I see, you think I never experienced sexism and that it doesn't influence modern society. Well let me disabuse you of that notion. Men have been sexist to me before I learnt feminism. I got catcalled by grown men in my school uniform at 13 I was harassed and a boy ran after me in the playground wanting to be my boyfriend but all the adults thought it was funny and cute because we were 9. Somehow though me physically crying not wanting to be around him was me over reacting and it was just funn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:10 PM
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they did it first" Points to all of religion, history and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:37 PM
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When I just broke up with an ex and wanted time single and alone to remember the person I was without a partner. Not to mention figure out what went wrong, and how to avoid it next time. And no I wouldn't hit them up again. That's just weird. I just did my thing and lived life until I meet someone again
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:36 PM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:55 PM
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I mean... If being with a man shorter than 6' stresses you out, you are weird. Sure, but please please pretty please point out where I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:45 PM
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That's ridiculous The entire point of being hired for a job is what you bring to the table, not for who the employee is. I'd argue that in relationships, who you are is inherently tied to what you bring to the table. If being with you means I'm more stressed or annoyed than I am without you, then you don't bring much to the table. And that's probably also tied to who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:24 PM
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Exactly what I expected. Bad faith and trolling. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:42 AM
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Again, not a response in good faith. Ever heard of having a nuanced discussion? Why ask for honest answers if all your replies are just snarky trolling? Genuinely, what were you looking for here?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:40 AM
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I seriously don't see how this is an honest question considering your replies. Pretty obviously not in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:20 AM
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If he's mad I break up with him. No Easy I dress exist for my girls and my gays than I ever do for straight men. It's about me and how I feel. Men just need to learn how to mind their own business
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:01 PM
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Two hot men Gay men are safer to project fantasies onto. Lots of us still grow up with feminine or crappy gender expectations. There's a bit more room to explore sexuality and situations when this pesky feminine gender roles aren't there. For the most part media restricts what female protagonists can do and the drama associated with it. Much more interesting to explore sex and sexuality when there's more interesting things going on. The amount of grey morality and situations you can put men into…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:49 PM
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By this logic no ideology is good The ideology that introduces better systems to protect the most vulnerable and promotes equality between all human beings is better than the ideology that does not. India , Hinduism ...... Mate. You for real here? The country where women have so much power and very little abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:21 AM
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They should and most religion agrees with me. My religion says that a house where the women cries and is mistreated will never sees prosperity . Doesn't matter what the religion teaches. What matters is what happens on the ground. And I haven't found a religion which hasn't been misused in that way Which country and which religion?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:14 AM
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Family values: do what we want and not what you want. Oh you're unhappy and unfulfilled? Ah well whatever Religion: woman submits to husband. So men submits to older men? At least they have a wife. Women submit to everyone apparently. I'll tell you what, I'll abandon the left when the right practices what they preach 100% completely no hypocrisy, or sexism That means: if my husband is mean to me, raises his voice even once!The church/mosque/synagogue completely shames him. Why? Because if I subm…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:00 AM
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1- only if they fully pass as a man and have all the corresponding equipment. I'm hetero I'm afraid. I want the male form exclusively 2- sure I don't care What matters is that my life is better with them than without them. Not their past
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:21 PM
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I think there's a difference between setting boundaries and people not being allowed to react to them. Lets say for example that you don't want to go and visit your in-laws. Now let's say for the same of this argument that the in-laws are reasonably likable, not pushy and essentially just want to see you and your partner reasonably regularly Let's say reasonably regularly is once every month. You are allowed to say "I have a boundary and I don't want to see the in-laws" But if it causes hurt or …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:57 PM
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There is no reason if you don't want there to be a reason. I don't really base friendship or interaction based on gender. I have male and female friends and a partner. I just vibe or don't vibe. If I'm not picking up my vibe from you, you're welcome to not pick up any vibes from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:23 PM
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As long as I'm getting the treatment that I personally want, he's not failing in any areas, and is making me happier then I don't particularly care about other girls in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:18 PM
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No. I don't have a salary that would enable us to live the lifestyle we want If I pulled 200k plus sure, so as long as the house is always clean and he does the cooking and all that. But I'm not going to earn 200k. Barely anyone does. So it's not going to happen unless we win the lottery
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:23 PM
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Disagree with what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:59 PM
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I don't understand what this reply is implying. An asshole is an asshole. I don't believe anyone deserves to be with an asshole. The asshole is always at fault. The asshole is a bad person. The asshole will always have 100% of the fault and the blame. You aren't entitled to anyone in particular. You are entitled to decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 08:58 PM
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No one is entitled to anyone But also no one is entitled to be an asshole. So are women entitled to a "good forever man?" Well no one is entitled to a good forever anyone. No one is entitled to a person. But if you are dating someone and the man cheats or lies, he's still a bad person and an asshole and you are entitled to someone who is not that person There is no excuse for being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:26 PM
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No, he's renting a one bedroom. I don't believe he was a lost cause. But I think he chose to be. It's more comfortable in your comfort zone where your inability to have friends or get a gf is the fault of others and not yourself. Sorry mate. It's not just about money. You have to be someone people want to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:46 PM
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gotten his friends What friends? His online friends who all speak in the same online lingo? your friends Why would my friends want to hang out with somebody who is rude and negative? I was in school when all this started. It's not the responsibility of a bunch of 14 year old girls to take care of the feelings of a 17 year old boy. And they shouldn't be obligated and shamed for not doing so either. and hung out together at your house routinely. We hung out at my house routinely. He chose to stay …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:23 PM
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It's your life dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:59 AM
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I'm an honest person. It's their choice to stay or leave. You're the one advocating dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:23 PM
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The more you go on, the more you sound like a sex pest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:45 PM
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How? Genuinely how? I tried when I was younger. Encouraged him out of the house, invited him to big parties at college, offered to go to the gym with him. Nothing I'm a woman. Anything I say doesn't matter because "you don't know how it feels to be a man" When my other brother tried it was "because you are Chad" even though he's basically the same height and ethnicity He's very negative and it's very hard to hang out with him. These days I limit my contact to happy birthdays, Christmas and New Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:45 PM
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And you are allowed to do that. I'd still judge it as wrong and immoral, but there's no law against it. But also, she's allowed to divorce, give social consequences, and tell people about it too. And still retain the moral high ground She's not going to accept her shitty lot either. She's can get hers openly and through the courts. And I don't want men whinging about how women initiate divorce because the cheating is an obviously divorce worth action Course they're allowed to whinge, they'll jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:29 PM
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Why? A marriage by definition is a contract. If part of that contract was the expectation of monogamy, then doing otherwise is blatantly wrong and immoral
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:19 PM
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Not really. Not any more than the whole "be frigid so I'll cheat" thing In both scenarios it's "I'll do something you don't like because of x or I'll do something I know will hurt you because of x" If anything I'd say cheating is immoral because it's less honest, everything I listed is honest
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:46 PM
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Okay But if the wife divorces because she finds out I don't want any man whinging over it because well he also chose to cheat And if she tells everyone he cheated on her and he gets social blowback that's also his own fault. If the kids end up with issues, we all know who to blame Like you can't say things like "well she was frigid so I cheated" and then complain about "divorce rape" and "women start divorces more" or women poisoned their kids against me because they were open about my cheating …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:14 PM
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Problem there is what if "I don't want children and won't have sex until you do" And then a man promises they'll sign the waiver post conception and then doesn't. Nah I want an option for a man to sign that waiver pre-conception that way I will have zero chances of any surgery or abortion on my body unnecessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:10 AM
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Then agree on a schedule. I've just said that the dishes need to be done every night before bed. If a man hasn't done it by then, then he's the one who shouldn't have agreed in the first place And tbh if your cleaning standards are so different to mine that we end up arguing over it, I'd just give up on the relationship anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:29 AM
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This is true. When I say respect I mean "treat with basic human decency and being reasonably considerate of someone's feelings" It also means "respect the fact that I am a fully formed human being and don't exist for you" and yes that goes both ways. Being respectful to your partner means not pushing their boundaries and accepting that they have different wants and needs from you. Being reasonably considerate means, if I can accomodate those wants and needs without them clashing with my own valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:02 PM
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I think both, but also in conjunction with lessons on giving/respecting boundaries and prioritizing your well being I see two aspects of this. One is that we should all learn to respect our partners (in such a way as to respect their boundaries, to not be violent, to not scream and shout immediately etc etc) But we should also learn to not tolerate disrespect If your partner is controlling what you wear and who you should hang out with, you should leave You shouldn't tolerate people who break yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:18 PM
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Ime if a man "negs" it only works if either he does it so well that nobody ( even someone who isnt attracted to him) can tell the difference. Like if I repeat what that man says verbatim everyone would agree that it's banter, even my parents Or the woman has some sort of attachment issue that gets them hyped for men who are manipulative. They exist, I've met them. Good luck getting that to work if the woman is confident or self assured though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:36 PM
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Negging is PUA term for trying to find someone's insecurity and laughing it off. It's a backhanded compliment that's aimed at subtly undermining someone's confidence. Bantering is two equals making fun of each other, with no end goal other than to make both of you laugh If one person feels bad or gets hurt during a banter it is no longer banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:14 PM
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Negging and banter are two different things. If you have to deliberately neg instead of banter then by definition you aren't socially aware
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:45 PM
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I once told a man that "I feel like I'm living with a roommate. I would like to get affection and keep the romance alive. And not just affection that leads to sex, but cuddling, kissing and going out on dates every so often. Every time we do something, I'm the one planning it. I would really appreciate it if you planned us a date some time in the next month" Him when we broke up: why didn't you say anything? Me: I did. Him: I didn't think it was that serious! Like I've told you once, I've told y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:01 AM
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Why are we still assuming that blue pill is anything? Blue pill is literally just not red pill The concept of the pills is from the matrix. Blue pill is an illusion, red pill a reality. Since the allegations is "mainstream society lies to you, red pill is the truth" then it's up to redpill to prove themselves. Because it's their hypothesis so they need to provide the evidence for it Blue pill is just "whatever red pill is against" It's like the theory of gravity. If I believe in gravity, I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:36 AM
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Depends on the brother My brother who is closest to me in age is engaged. He's generally had a couple of LTRs in his life We're fairly similar. We're Southeast Asian immigrants but we're both nerds who are fairly social and extroverted. I think he joined casual sports clubs to meet new people and stay in shape and it's worked out well for him. Running clubs etc. His partner and I get along and we're doing a girl's trip together this Easter. Might do a hike or something. My other brother is basic…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 11:18 PM
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But the question was around sex Which has nothing to do with men who ask you out vs men who you ask out. I can ask men out all I want, but the filter is still not having sex early
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:57 PM
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Well, I think years is a bit much but waiting a few months tends to be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:38 AM
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Not really. That doesn't filter out men who want sex, it filters out men who don't want to ask you out. The best way to filter out men who only want sex is to not have sex This will remove both the men who only want sex and men who want a connection but aren't willing to wait to have sex. If you're willing to remove the second kind of guy at the same time as the first then just don't have sex. If you end up filtering out men who will go "well you had sex with them early so you should have sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:20 AM
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Honestly stop caring about what guys want If you want casual sex, not because of guys, but for its own sex then hell yeah more power to you If you don't want casual sex for its own sex and you're doing it because you want the investment or if you're bitter at men, I think you're doing yourself a disservice Just live your life the way you want it to. Who cares about men and what they think. Just do you. And if someone comes along then see if the vibe checks out. Sex or no sex that's up to you. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:21 PM
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Because that's the only way someone's word is enforceable. You must have lived such a good and privileged life, if you've never seen what happens to a woman who gave up their careers or took time off work only to be left with nothing. Call me unromantic, but I've seen what that does to a person. And I believe that if a man even hesitates when it comes to equal division of marriage assets if children happens, then I know that truly he doesn't have any love for me. Because if he did, he would put …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:54 AM
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It's so romantic if you have kids and get left screwed over. To be clear I don't believe marriage is necessary unless you have children If you have children and you give no shits about the financial sacrifice and physical sacrifice of whoever has to take time off work and career to take care of them then you're uncaring and have no love for their partner. If you don't have children, then do whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:42 AM
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It doesn't matter though Nothing I do is going to change the behaviour of other people. I can only control myself. So either I let them treat me poorly or I set boundaries like a pro and leave at any sign of a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:30 AM
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I think you're leaving out the nuance that lots of women would like a family.... Assuming it's with a man that makes their life better It's not about #girlbozz It's that loneliness when you're single is preferable to a partner that makes you unhappy or stresses you out. I know women who are lonely and who do want a partner but they're not going for a man that will make their life worse. Why should they? They want a man who has a full time job, who's in the same stage of life, who won't stress th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:26 PM
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Why are good guys shy? Why are outsiders "good?" I think that human beings are people and reflections of their environment I find that environments that encourages or rewards decency will have more "good" people. For example in countries where being a wife beater is regarded as a bad thing, most men won't beat their wives. If you're from a place that rewards it, well I've seen those videos from oppressive countries where it's suddenly the wife's fault if you beat her. I think if people have powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:11 PM
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If you take the lead and expect me to follow it, you better 100% make every right decision, never treat me wrong ever, ever, ever. If you make one mistake. Raise your voice once. Expect me to do something that takes me even 1% unhappy, makes me feel devalued even 1% of the time, make 0.0001 mistake I will lose every ounce of respect from you Because I've seen what happens when men take a woman for granted and I am very sensitive to it. If I feel like an equal, I'm more willing to stick around an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:03 PM
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I get that, but, and I say this with kindness, meeting men means meeting people You can try and just stick to apps, but it comes with it's own pitfalls and challenges. You still have to go out with a lot of men and you have to make sure you don't end up with a dud. And it's better to be alone than with a dud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:14 AM
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I'd say get out there and make some new friends. Find a hobby you enjoy that involves other people and show up frequently. Bonus it means that you can make friends and have a hobby you can enjoy. Sometimes you can meet a man there, but don't make that your primary reason for going.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:04 AM
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I find people get nervous on a date. Or alternatively it can feel like a job interview The casual getting to know stage without it being a date means that I can chat, hang out, see chemistry, personality and basic compatibility without it being too serious or a job interview Much less pressure that way. You can disagree, but I think a natural getting to know people is easier and low pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:03 AM
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I count myself as someone who needs a lot of emotional connection and safety to feel comfortable having sex. Unfortunately a lot of that connection and safety also comes from the sense that the man wants to be in a relationship with me and not just playing around. That means a lot of men, some who might have wanted a relationship with me but who wanted early sex, would say no to me. That's okay too. I wasn't hurt by it. They're allowed their standards but I'm allowed to have mine. I have noticed…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:55 AM
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One- admittedly not using apps and only dating people in my wider social circle Why? Easier to form a connection without pressure. You could hang in a group setting, see chemistry without the pressure of "it's a date" So low pressure and easier to get to know someone. Two - I put my deal breakers early. First date if I can manage it. I try to be smooth with it, but I might bring it up as a joke or something. But I remember making a couple Asian jokes (as I'm an Asian woman) and complaining about…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:22 AM
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He thinks a feminist position is whatever he thinks a feminist position is, and if he's wrong well that's not reaaaaaalllllyyy feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:18 AM
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My taxes are still paying for those kids' schooling, roads, transport and hospitals So yeah they still owe me Unless you're a one of those "taxes are theeeeeeeftttt morons"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:06 PM
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Many people are like "divorce is fine. Whatevz. It happens." You're being a reductionist there We've been through depression, unemployment and chronic illness It's certainly not "divorce is fine, whatevz" It's the awareness that everyone has deal breakers. Cheating is a reasonable deal breaker no? And so is someone deciding to have completely different core values? And Like why would I stay in a marriage with someone who believes women should be home makers? I hate trad cons with a passion of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:22 PM
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Depends on the friction. There are deal breakers and there are things I'm willing to compromise on Let's say he decided that our discussion about raising a child no longer applies and felt like he would prefer I stay at home. The answer is divorce. If he started becoming insecure and started looking at my phone or criticising the way I dress? He gets one warning to not do it again. Otherwise it's divorce city. Same with suddenly gaining religion or becoming part of any society or community that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:41 PM
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Im married and we've been together over a decade. But all our core values are the same We have the same goal in life (i.e. enough money to live comfortably but not enough to stress us out) Work life balance as a goal. If we have kids we only want one. We have a few hobbies that are similar. We have some that are different. We both have independent social circles. I don't tolerate men without their own friends and who don't have female friends. We both have agreed to stay in our current city unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:18 PM
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I disagree In those days you have a very strict way of life and not much variation. Everyone had the same religion for example. If society valued gender roles most people adhered to it People generally didn't travel. A more open society means more variation amongst people Not to mention life was harder for those without partners then. For example I don't jive with anyone religious. I don't want to date anyone with a religion regardless of what it is unless they exclusively practice the most libe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:08 PM
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As a society we've decided that having female-only gyms and clubs and hairdressers and whatnot is totally fine and good. Men's clubs were an issue specifically because that's where men historically networked and got gains professionally. Barbers.... I've been turned away at barbershops before, it's never been an issue. Male only gyms... In not sure why you'd want one but go ahead. I don't think they'll make as much money as you think. Female only gyms tend to be a thing specifically because some…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 03:31 AM
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and things like job searching are extremely difficult for those people, don't you depend on your husband for fixing things,home mainenence, I never said anything about men making women do everything No, home maintenance we do together or hire someone out minor car repairs, No because he knows Jack shit about cars. We go to a mechanic if you have kids then maybe he takes over to give you a break? He will be doing equal child rearing. Because if they are our kids then he will do equal responsibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:55 AM
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soft power women have, Soft power can be taken away by hard power and therefore is practically no power at all. Oh if a queen is pretty and beautiful and nurturing and feminine her king will follow her words! And if the king is angry? If she isn't pretty enough or nurturing enough she deserves nothing? But the king doesn't have to be soft or nurturing or anything. He can do what he wants. A man must take care of his wife! But what if he doesn't? He cheats on her, shows no affection, regards sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:22 PM
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I mean I can generally agree to this, but if we are going to be fair we also have to flip this. Are men required to be around women too? Because apparently trying to avoid women is misogyny. Do men have to be friendly to women? Because apparently men being distant and cold to women is misogyny. No men are not required to be around women. Men are not required to be friendly to women. You can go through your commute and your day and not communicate with a single woman unless you have to in a work …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:10 PM
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And your stats are?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:31 PM
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Time to migrate to a Muslim country perhaps I hate all religions, don't see what that has to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:41 AM
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Can men truly love? I don't believe in unconditional love. All love is conditional by the fact that the condition is: make me happy Or even the condition being: when I am with you life is better than when I am without you I don't want to be friends with someone if they don't make me happy when I hang out with them. Otherwise why would I be friends with them I don't see why men would want to me with a woman unless she's making his life better somehow otherwise why be with her than without her. Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:18 AM
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Oh yes I agree! Let's look at the issues and put solutions in about raising children better and improving life for everyone But leading men in media being simps is not the issue that op said it is. That's not the reason for this issue The issue is more structural and economical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:27 AM
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Let's look at crime stats and who causes the most homicides and murder? I mean I was going to add sexual assault and violent sexual assault but realized that that might be affected by reporting. Rates. Can't really not report murder...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:17 AM
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Oh so the solution is to create a culture where men aren't violent by punishing violence and not allowing men to commit it nor excuse it? Great we're on the same page. Let's focus on doing that then instead of "media portrays men as simps or villains"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:13 AM
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You seem to have missed the part where that is exactly what husbands have been told. No I haven't missed that. I'm saying I'd rather be on the powerful end of the conversation than the weaker end Duh could just as easily slide back to a matriarchal women-have-the-power system where they oppress men. In which point of the west has this happened where structural power was with women and not just soft power? So you don't get to talk about any of women's issues unless they are personally and directl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:11 AM
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So men and women in the same culture, class, suburb and race have the same propensity for violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:04 AM
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We can try again if you want, bring up any specific issue, you don't say "but men don't wanna" and I won't say "but women don't wanna" and let's see where the discussion goes yeah? How about this: let's discuss the issue of male loneliness, male suicide, male homelessness and the whole dating dynamics right here and right now However the solution cannot be: women have to be around, be friendly, or date men they don't want to be around, be friendly with or date. The solution cannot be infringemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:03 AM
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, I do believe that the difference in r*cial crime is likely due socioeconomic factors Which is my point The difference between violent crime has nothing to do with race and everything to do with class The difference between violent crime such as homicide between men and women however??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:56 AM
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It's not https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rspb/article/290/1993/20222095/79615/Why-is-violence-high-and-persistent-in-deprived
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:54 AM
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They also say men should love and cherish their wives. I'd rather love and cherish than be submissive and have no structural power knowing that the reality is that having no structural power means I'd be easy to abuse I'd rather be told "have power over your spouse but don't abuse it" than be told "your spouse has power over you, and you better hope he doesn't abuse it or die" Especially if the context of that means there's very little means for me to choose "be independent and equal on my own a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 04:47 AM
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Did that study take into account intergenerational cycles of violence from before that family gained wealth? Again there is no "violence gene" in black people. On the other hand it seems men are much much more likely to be violent than women regardless of culture, class or race. because even if it is true that the socioeconomic status is what is causing the issues in those countries, a simple response is that the very fact that the socioeconomic status of those countries is so bad is enough reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:59 AM
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When women collectively try to legislate away your ability to vote, have church leaders say that you should be submissive to women, and communities refuse to let you study, go to work or be independent because of your gender we can talk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:49 AM
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The issue here is that your study isn't linked to a study at all. It's linked to a imgur picture link And your second link about international country comparison isn't taking into account the political and economic situation in those countries as compared to others. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:18 AM
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And yet men here insist that being wary is the same as being prejudiced I don't hate men, I just refuse to engage with men who make me uncomfortable. And you know what? I also refuse to engage with women who make me uncomfortable. That means if you're off putting to me I will not be your friend. I certainly will not be dating you. For that matter, I'm not friends with people who make my life worse when I'm with them. At minimum i want to make friends with someone that I have fun with when I'm ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:12 AM
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And I'm saying that racists are wrong for saying that because the stats prove their prejudices wrong. On the other hand stats do prove me right when I am wary around unknown men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:54 AM
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I can't take this post seriously when op starts with blue pill means everything is men's fault Once again the blue pill doesn't exist. The blue pill is some dumb matrix analogy about how taking the blue pill is delusional and the red pill is reality. It's so stupid. The blue pill would literally just mean "the mainstream" The mainstream view is not everything is men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:11 AM
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Yes, people base their fear reactions on life experience. Not the gotcha you think it is. But but but racism? Stats show that most issues like crime and violent crime have very little to do with race itself and is likely due to other factors such as social economic classes. (Insert ethnic minority group of your choice here) Are likely to be seen as committing more violent crimes not because their ethnic group has a "violent crime gene" but because of the social economic condition of their minori…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:59 AM
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The stats don't show that black people are inherently more violent that any other ethnic group. A lot of violence is mostly correlated with social economic class, which is a trend that crosses countries. But also as the epstein files show us, rich white people should be treated as even more sus. On the other hand male violence and male oppression seems to be pretty statistically easy to chart in every country and culture. And time period
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:46 AM
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I promise me you movies did not make me wary of men. It started when grown men shouted at me from their cars when I was wearing my school uniform. It continued with evet "get me a sandwich joke" It was radicalized by every "god fearing man" who said something about a "woman's duty". It was every person who even made snide comments about sluts while men slept around. It's how in every religion men go on and on about the importance of women in the home. While simultaneously crying about alimony, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:05 PM
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Preferences is literally how dating works. Newsflash, people aren't robots. We've got these things called personalities. And dating is how we figure out if those personalities work together. Some people want more texting, more physical stuff, more time together Some people want less and find that suffocating Some people are comfortable with early sex but are uncomfortable with commitment. Some people move fast with commitment but slow with the sex Some people want certain types of communication …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:18 AM
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Because that's how humans work. You don't get punished socially for not interacting perfectly. You get punished socially for not interacting in a group or society's social norms. And those social norms are different in every group of friends, in every city, and in every country. For example, I have friend groups where when we say: meet at one pm, the latest you can be is 1.10 before you start getting flack. And details of a trip can be planned pretty well. Deviating from that too much is a probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:04 AM
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Everyone has different wants, needs and vibes. What you're proposing would just end up trying to force people into square holes when they're triangles. The point of dating is to find your match. If you exude say directness, you'll get rejected by people who don't like directness. But you'll be chosen by people who do Part of dating is the human element and yes that can be chaotic and challenging. But that's how humans work. We aren't a video game where there's a perfect strat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:51 AM
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Men shouldn't be heads of the family because they were born with a blessed penis. If you think they should be that says enough about you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:37 PM
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What happens when she can't get a job because of the job market and her lack of employment because she took a career break? No, women need to get everything in writing and to leave if a man holds his provision over her head even once. Remember ladies, what's said in anger or impulse is the real thought. The hand that feeds can be the hand that starves. Get everything in writing. And if he says one thing about it make him pay Nanny + cleaning + surrogacy rates. If he doesn't then he doesn't value…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:59 PM
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Yes No dad is better than a dad that shows you that it's okay to accept bad behaviour for the sake of the family Mothers should model the life they want their daughter to have. And shows her son what behaviours are acceptable to do. If she accepts bad behaviour that is what her daughter will accept
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:50 PM
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, that she didn't help build. This is why women should never agree to stay home to take care of the children. No career breaks. If in order to have a child you need to stay home and take even a few months career break have it in writing that this counts as helping build wealth because otherwise he would have to pay for daycare and a surrogate. And if he even says once this is my money that I provide, get a job. Tell him that he needs to start paying you surrogacy and nanny and cleaner rates. All…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:54 AM
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Literally me to a friend a few weeks ago No offense, but you seem to be attracted to men that treat you badly. It might be a good idea to go to therapy and work on yourself to figure out what's going on before jumping back into the dating pool. (We all know what's wrong with her. Traditional asian family where while there's no physical/ sexual abuse the father makes all the decisions. And the women are told that that's just how men are. They cheat and they dominate and are arrogant. You just hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:15 PM
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Hot take, a lot of this is because of phrasing and context and this sub is too rigid to understand If you told a man, if you want commitment it might be best to look for women with a history of commitment instead of many one night stands No one would call you misogynistic Instead red pill goes: wahmen sluts! Cock carousel! Sluts sluts sluts! If you told a man who just got out of an abusive relationship and is now struggling with being a poor single dad " choose better!" Would be seen as a shitty…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:24 PM
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This is why women should never allow themselves to be the starter girlfriend. Don't let men get away with it. Expect their best. Demand their best. Do not support men unless they give you equal support Don't give wifey treatment without a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:00 PM
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How many 18 year olds date significantly older? When I was that age most older men were perceived as creeps. Maybe two people were willing to date 7 or more years older. And age gaps are seen as much more problematic now (and rightfully so!) Seems like most men are going to end up single too if they attempt to go too much younger, which puts them in the same bracket as the woman their age
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:34 PM
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And all stats show that settling down early increases the rate of divorce If anything Id say settling down young and ending up with a dud is a leopard's eat my face situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:29 PM
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Funny because lots of women do romanticize about nurturing men who does his fair share of the chores and makes a good dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:39 PM
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I have never cared about what watch a man wore. In saying that, like anything else, if taken to the extreme would be a turn off.(Needing to always have the latest watch or having a collection of expensive watches)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:13 AM
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If she wants to be a stahp and he didn't agree to it and was reluctant and she did it anyway yes she is the asshole. *Provided she didn't just lose her job and was forced to not have a job The woman can choose to go be in a monogamous relationship as well right? As soon as he brings it up she can make the choice to be free of him. Only if there is no sexism involved in the society about that decision and the entire culture and religion agree that the man was the reason because he took a second w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:50 PM
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He can leave the relationship if he wants to Don't pretend that a woman in a patriarchal society and religion has the same power dynamics as men in the western world. And he can choose ethical non monogamy if has a 20% reluctance to be monogamous in most free Western societies. Don't pretend that the UK is just as bad to men as Saudi Arabia is women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:03 PM
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The idea being that morally, it should be something that everyone is on board with. Like if your first wife doesn't like the idea of having a second wife but someone goes "well you're going to hell if you don't agree" or "yeah but he wants it so you just have to endure it" or "submission!!!!!!!!!!" Then really even if she says "okay I consent" then it's not really consent. It's coerced. Point blank, if the first wife has 1% reluctance then you shouldn't have a second. And if a man goes ahead kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:39 PM
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Assuming all conditions are met i've always found it a bit flattering. It's just that generally the approaches are... Not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:36 AM
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What if I don't want to reward incompetence? Its not like I want to cook. It's not like I'm naturally better at cooking It's a skill. That I learned. Because I'm an adult. Are men stupid? Are they unable to learn a skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:44 AM
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Why can't the man go and do the cooking and cleaning then? And you can refuse to go out with women who want a provider if you so desire
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:34 AM
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You are confusing morally opposed, not for me, and legally opposed I believe that people should marry consenting adults. If everyone consents they should be able to do that. So I don't believe any form of polygamy/polyamory/polyandry should be illegal Just because I personally am monogamous and will stay that way, does not mean other people should also have to be monogamous. They are free to have whatever relationship structure suits them so as long as everyone is free, consenting, and adults Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:25 AM
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It's not my place or my problem Even if it's something I disagree with, I'm not going to tell you who should have access to you, your life, or to your body I think if a woman or a man is happy and at peace with being single or would rather be single than be with someone that doesn't meet her standards then that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:21 PM
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From what I can see most guys aren't better than her peace, ymmv
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:13 PM
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If you have a fairly stable life, with access to good resources and a good way of life, then you will be pickier. Because you don't need another person to survive. You can choose based on wants instead of get with anyone The less resources you have, the more likely you are to get with someone for survival. If you're poor or dependent any person who isn't outright abusive is better because it splits the bills. If you live a fairly good life, well you can't just be anyone. You have to not make my …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:35 AM
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Lesbian porn actually takes into account female pleasure, unlike straight porn And no women do find attractive men's bodies hot. Just what men think is an attractive man might not be what women think is an attractive man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:17 PM
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In that case, men should also stop complaining about women doing our own hobby stuff and not wanting to interact with men. Like go ahead and do your own vibe comic cons. But if we create our own cons and establish safe rules, then don't show up and complain about it. Go have your own thing If I get pissy about you being gate keepy or however you want to interact with other fans, I'll go off and not talk to you Me and the girls and anyone who wants to join our space will go ahead and do that. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:59 AM
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Red pill is literally just "I am not mainstream" and "I need edgy misogynistic packaging in order to feel good about myself" Not to mention "I want to make my partner feel insecure so that I have the upper hand all the time" (aka dread game) Mainstream advice has always been "be the best you that you can be" It's just that red pillers apparently can't figure that out without a cheat code. Newsflash. Human beings aren't robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:44 AM
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Not the answer you want but: it reaaaaaalllllyyy depends on the woman. I know some who would love a FWB (heavy on the friends part too btw. Not just a booty call. But actually platonically hanging out and going to movies and stuff). Usually it's because they have commitment issues themselves, or they don't think they're in a spot where they want a relationship for various reasons. But also lots of women hate the idea and want an actual relationship. I do think they're a minority but it's not a u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:24 AM
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I did and I married him
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:43 PM
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If they're men yes. I dont perceive black women or women of other ethnicities to be a threat to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:46 PM
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Most single parents I knew had children within a long term relationship. Then the relationship broke down. Not every father wants 50/50 custody. So instead the women become single mothers while the father pays child support. It's not like they chose to be a single mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:54 AM
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Don't dress it up saying "oh but misconceptions" or gender roles. Be honest with yourself If men are willing to remove women's rights and/or claim that women should be happy about not having said rights then they hate women. They are attracted to women and want to use them as mommy mcbang maid. That is still a form of hate. Also note that any man who encourages economic coercion (i.e. make it so that women economically have to be with men to live a good life) are people who are okay with sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:58 AM
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This feels like a #notlikeothergirls Better angles and lighting had nothing to do with "purity" It's literally just better photos
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:58 PM
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Celicacy here I come!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:39 PM
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You are aware that systems can mostly benefit someone while still keeping them down in other ways right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:59 PM
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Patriarchy harms men too so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:48 PM
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I'll believe that when the rate of sexual harassment and assault is 0%, women have full bodily autonomy, no woman ever dies because she was denied an abortion, 0% of women are murdered by their partner, 0% of women are wed underaged, 0% of religious pastors/priests/imams say anything about women being submissive and 0% of courts ask women what they're wearing and what their underwear looks like and 0% of women are denied affordable contraception because of a practitioners religious beliefs, 0% o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:58 PM
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I love like he's the only one or even that men are people without disposable income or time. Lots of people are broke. That's kind of part of the social landscape at the moment. You can choose to stay home and do nothing though. But let's also admit that if you're not putting time into meeting new people you also... Won't meet new people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:40 AM
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So divorce then. I don't understand the issue. See when I'm in a relationship my benchmark is me Am I happy. And I being treated the way I want to be. If a man wants to benchmark this on Chad or sex then that's on him. But from my point of view if their sulking about this imaginary AFBB affects my peace and enjoyment of my life I'm walking. Life is too short to put up with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:05 PM
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Per your OP "AFBB" and getting "worse treatment" Stop moving your goal posts. It's not about being "happy and enthusiastic to have sex" it's "worse treatment" Define worse treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:59 PM
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I like how you have once again managed to misinterpret lust with "must have kinky sex with me"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:51 PM
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You conflate love with "kinky sex" I don't want that definition of love so I'd rather leave You conflate "attraction" with a certain type of sex. I don't want that definition of attraction so I'd rather leave Entitlement refers to feeling like you need x,y,z from someone else's body. I don't care what your reasons are it's entitlement. You are conflating "enthusiasm" with "x kind of sex" I can't be bothered having that in my life Bottom line, if your values (aka you value kinky sex) are differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:31 PM
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So let's say somehow that it's true that this woman gives out "less" in terms of sex to her partner than she did to some fling 30 years ago You are not entitled to the same thing. No one is. Sex is a mutual act. You start acting entitled that's on you. You're allowed to have feelings about it, but personally if you think "better treatment" is about sex id rather get a divorce. I ain't got time for this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:01 PM
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You know the guy has to like me too right? Like I'm not saying the pool is small it's impossible. I mean that he needs to meet my requirements and I have to meet his. I'm not perfect, I've got flaws. That eliminates me from a good part of the dating pool from that side too. Do we have the same lifestyle? Do we want the same things in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:16 AM
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Sounds like someone hurt you there lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:55 AM
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Which is it? Wahmen cock carousel or "stop waiting too long!" And also I only have sex when I feel like it and have an emotional connection. Guess what, generally the emotional connection happens when I have figured out what we are. If that doesn't work for you the door is there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:17 AM
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No it isn't. You aren't entitled to someone paying for your dinner And don't wear make up if you're going to hold it over their heads. Make up isn't even that expensive unless you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:50 PM
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Don't care 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:21 PM
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Again, who hurt you? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:16 PM
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Sure. But isn't dating about compatibility? It can be an expensive hobby yes, but like I travel once or twice a year I don't think that's frequent enough to be a hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:05 PM
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PPD men are funny 🤣. Who hurt you? My money is our money, seeing as I outearn him but go ahead and have your fantasy. I like things like a house and travelling together. I ain't got time for expensive hobbies too. But go spend your money however you want, ain't got anything to do with me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:10 PM
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I'm not a date just to date kind of girl. When i was dating I was looking for a long term relationship that ends either in marriage or common law marriage And once income is combined then I'd have a problem with their expensive hobby. Why should I start something I know won't go anywhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:04 PM
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I assume they are into their hobbies a normal amount and don't make it their identity. Don't care what your hobby is, once you make it your personality it's a turn off. I like to play games but I hate people who self identify as "gamers" for example. Deal breakers: Weird pets like insects. Collecting dead things. Again like insects. Taxidermy Nothing aggressive like boxing. I don't mind stuff like jijuitsu or karate though. Or fencing. Just not the ones where people actually get injured. Gamblin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:36 AM
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Average is great but only if it's compatible with the people in question. I'm average woman by statistics. But also I'm an average woman who will walk away from any man who even insinuates gender roles. I'm an average woman who will walk away from a man who doesn't do his fair share around the house. I'm an average woman who has a big circle of friends and who wants to be able to continue having one. That means any man must be perfectly able to match my energy or be happy with me going out witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:47 PM
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In which case, happier single still holds true. Because the juice has to be worth the squeeze. You can be happy and single, even if you could be happier with a man who fits all your requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:46 AM
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If all the good men are taken, then logically there's a limited supply of men who are "good" In which case there will always be a proportion of women who won't be able to get with "good" men. After all there's a limited supply of them right? Would it then logically follow then that being single is a good thing? After all a proportion of women won't be able to bag commitment from the limited supply of good men. Which means that a proportion of women face either singlehood or "not good men" no mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 10:32 AM
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Depends on the couple and whether to merge money. I did 50/50 the first year or so. Then we divided based on income. If earned 60% of the income so it became 60/40 I don't think true 50/50 payment is realistic unless both parties are happy with the living the lifestyle of the lowest income partner. I also think that complete 50/50 feels a bit less like a partnership because the person who earns more is basically always going to have more money. Equitable splitting to me is the nice middle ground…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:34 AM
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What does "actionable responsibility" mean to you? Because that has nothing to do with tears or raising your voice. That's more to do with "if you're told x is a problem, acting to solve the problem" and I've seen men and women be both really bad at that. What you're talking about seems to be more about communication styles and conflict resolution. Which is not necessarily about accountability. Part of that is the difference between "escalation" and "de-escalation". That is to say, you cannot re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:26 AM
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Projection and confirmation bias. In a professional capacity I've seen both men and women daily to take accountability. I've seen both men and women fail to take accountability in real life too. What this is is that there are a lot of men who are already bitter at women and will be finding negative shit and will be generalizing that. It's like how when I'm playing an MMO if a man made a mistake it was "x can't play" but if I made a mistake it was "this is why women aren't real gamers" It's why I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:56 AM
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I'm not sure if it's the same kind of equality as you're thinking though Women my grandmother's age (I'm 30) were entering the workforce but it was still sort of expected that they would stop working when kids happened, or that their pathways were essentially teacher, nurse, or administration. When I was young I remember there was a lot of talk about having it all and how to juggle being a mother, a good wife and having a career. Yes women can have it all! My mother had magazines about how to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:29 PM
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Wouldn't know, was too young for that era I think the fact that you probably had to pay was probably a turn off for a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 09:09 PM
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you shouldn't get married or have children has also played a role. Feminism says that women should aspire to things that aren't just marriage or children That they are allowed and are empowered to find fullillment in things outside the home How terrible! How dare?! Feminists also say not to settle for a man that doesn't pull his weight and doesn't support your life dreams How dare! Women should make men the center of their lives obviously Like seriously women should only be in a relationship if …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:33 AM
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Ah yes. It's feminism that's making people lonely Not the rising costs of living, unbridled capitalism, moving of manufacturing and other sectors overseas, social atomization, the fact that people are spending more time indoors, technocracy, not to mention global warming and the increasing tensions around the world . Nooooo women have rights now! Women can work and be independent! It's their fault! Women compete with men! That's why economics are going down (despite multiple studies showing that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:37 AM
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I absolutely do not want an arranged marriage I might agree to arranged dating where it might help like minded people of the same values etc meet each other easier. But I would like to have a long relationship first before I commit to a marriage I don't do the whole fall in love after marriage bull. I want to know if I love you and will keep loving before anything permanent happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:21 AM
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Quote here: You think they are just going to smile while their daughters are treated as property and say "it was worth it so I could ride the cock carousel and squat on Chad dick"? Or do you think only once the true ramifications are felt they will have an ounce of regret? Why should women need to take responsibility for "riding the cock carousel and squat on Chad dick?" If that not actually what's happening for most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:19 AM
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Why would I address "women only want to jump on the cock carousel and jump on chads dick?" Lol Id tell you what would happen. I'd make a comment about how that is not what happens and how while there are certainly hypersexual women there's also the other extreme of celibate women, Witt most women in the middle of the spectrum And then you'll tell me that I'm lying and am actually just covering up for being a whore. It's useless
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:15 AM
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Why is It always "cock carousel and chads dick?" Like men on this forum seem to think women have sex on the brain the way they do. Newsflash women aren't exactly having that much sex either. I swear men on this sub think every woman is having sex every week with a different man who is always super hot. Touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:08 AM
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Oppression is better because men got wet dicks I actually don't think humanity deserves to exist if it continuing relies on oppressing 50% of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:02 PM
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Fashion shows and magazines have a target audience of female readers if women want obese women on it that's their choice? stop judging men for watching porn featuring younger women or overall My dude what part of not predatory did you not understand stop judging men for visiting prostitutes I'll stop judging men for visiting prostitutes when men stop judging women for being prostitutes stop judging age-gap couples if the younger party is older than 21 and the gap is not larger than, say, twelve …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:57 AM
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Yup agreed Men should have their own preferences even if it excludes obese and/or older women and single mothers. I support all these things so as long as they aren't cruel and aren't predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:44 AM
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How about this, I stop doing better safe than sorry, you guarantee me safety. And that if I give a man a chance and it doesn't work out, even if he was a great boyfriend, just because I just wasn't happy you guarantee me zero social stigma. Zero social pressure and that no men trample on those boundaries Like you know what if men don't want an obese woman? Fine don't date one. If I don't want a man who makes me uncomfortable because why the fuck would you want to spend time with someone you feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:21 AM
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If you can’t tell who is safe from simple interactions, are you sure your gut feeling is about safety and not your preferences not being met? Because I'd rather be safe than sorry? Because even if it's not unsafe it's uncomfortable and I don't want to be in a relationship with a man that makes me uncomfortable? Hey! Wearing a seat belt doesn't stop you from getting injured in car crashes 100% of the time! Are you sure you should keep wearing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:50 AM
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it's not like we can read minds and figure out who's safe from a photo or even an interaction And also I regularly see men making bad choices so its a human condition not a gender specific condition
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:33 AM
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The very same women who preach about how often women are abused often don’t stop dating. It’s much more about personal preferences than safety. People still want to date amazingly. I don't understand why it is we can't just again "trust our gut" be taught to keep our boundaries, and value our peace over a man vs "well some women make bad choices, so we should encourage all women to stop having boundaries" Like I'm married and happy. I also didn't tolerate shit. Lots of women date, send their fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:16 AM
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Women quite often sacrifice their boundaries already if they find a man attractive. Sounds like we need more education on enforcing and keeping firm in our boundaries then And again, considering how women often berate men for their preferences, it’s at least hypocritical. You can breathe women for our preferences if you like, its not like men have ever been silent about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:53 AM
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It would in the sense that you're telling women not be firm in their boundaries. The more we teach girls that their boundaries are worth less than men's comfort, the more we socialise girls to accept less than what makes them happy. I don't care if you're male or female. Chase your dreams, choose your peace, and never let go of your own self esteem. Regardless of what society tells you, you need to stand firm about your space, your life and your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:23 AM
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Boys should be taught that memo And yet, here we are. You ask people to trust but what happens when it's abused? You can talk the talk, but the reality on the ground is very different. So once all the ideals have been said, what happens on the ground? If your trust got abused once hey hey it's too bad. Sorry. But you still need to give boys a chance no matter what? Nah. Give me security that this doesn't get taken advantage of first. Give me security that if that chance doesn't work out, zero st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:00 PM
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gestures to all of history So basically "well you chose badly so boo hoo" Marriages break down and leave people with gaps in their resume even if the man wasn't someone who leaves you begging for money You split marriage assets. Which unless you're a billionaire won't last you forever. Most people don't have savings that means they can be out of work for 6 months let alone a year. Alimony is barely granted. And again even if it is it wont sustain a whole as household unless you married a billion…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:11 PM
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Tell me you weren't a girl growing up in the 90s without telling me you were a girl growing up in the 90s What exactly constitutes creepy is also very broad. If a man is seen as creepy just because he doesn’t look in your eyes constantly during a conversation, then the problem lies much more with you than with the others. Yet that by itself destroys your chances as a man with the majority of women. So ignore my gut then? Okay if society asks that of me, they have to guarantee that nothing bad ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:06 PM
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You know that was how we were educated as a millennial right? Give the nice guy a chance! And when it didn't work out we were the ones who led them on When we got creeped out we were told to ignore our gut because he was "nice just awkward" and then if things went wrong it was still our fault We were told to be nice to guys and it led to guys using those niceties against us to pressure us into dating them when we didn't want to. Like asking us in public and telling us we were being rude for refu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:19 PM
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And again how do you ask those standards to change without legislating rape
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:06 PM
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It's a point of failure if the definition low paying job barely puts my head above water. Sue me, I want a house where I can live that isn't mouldy or ratty, enough money to spend on my hobbies, to not stress about paying bills and to be able to travel every so often. If I did have a child I want to be able to pay for extracurriculars like sport or music. I want to be able to afford a good neighborhood. So no actually, I will not live in poverty and I will not put myself in a position of financi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:58 PM
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You act like employers don't take into account the gap Yes they do. You just aren't allowed to discriminate based on gender and the ability to become pregnant. And even if we did it is not equivalent to rape
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:47 PM
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Again, why is my freedom to choose and make sure that I don't have one point of failure in my life less free than being a sahp with one point of failure?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:25 PM
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Again So if we choose to not by sahp and choose to work instead, knowing the reality, why again is that not freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:22 PM
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Yes forcing people to hire people based on qualifications and merit instead of discrimination is the same as forcing sex and relationships Aka "you made me hire women, so I should be allowed to rape"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:06 PM
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Somehow men always seem to think that the right to work and the right to be financially independent is somehow equivalent to being forced to and coerced into sex Okay, let's say we stop making laws that means women who be one mothers get hired. I want zero whinging about birthrates and population decline. Women: man I really want to be able to live life to the best of abilities and merits Men: yeah well I want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:43 PM
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In what world? Is the economy amazing where you live that people just get jobs? How old are you? 10? No one is going to hire someone with gaps in their resume if the other person doesn't. People will hire the best fit for the role, not who has a sob story. In this economy there are people who have worked 30 years and they can't get hired. What plant are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:40 PM
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I'm saving this thread. So that I can use it as proof of how men can take the simple words of "I don't want people to be coerced into sex" and "sex by coercion is rape" to be equivalent to "coercive control of men and controlling what me. Should do" I'm going to save it and use it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:52 AM
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And if they’re voting to take your rights away just for the sake of it or as some sort of revenge, then it’s not? Or is all sex considered rape to you? All sex that is done in the context of coercion is rape. If they do it for revenge, knowing the consequences are women being coerced into sex then they are rapists yes. So being critical of women when it comes to dating and having nothing to lose by being critical equals them being rapists? So you basically want to force these men to be ok with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:18 AM
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But men seem to think that removing women's rights is the way to go. Of course it looses my sympathy. I just want to be able to live my life. They actively want to hurt me. Somehow that makes me evil. They want to have a chance at having a romantic and sex life. No woman will ever give them that chance and yet there’s an expectation that these men have to be ok with never having a chance. Don’t do things that hurt women in anyway but be ok with being hurt by women of never giving a chance of hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:03 AM
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They rather pull the plug on life than give sympathy or empathy to us. We would rather commit suicide than have empathy? What does empathy look like to you? Really what does it look like? Is it understanding? Is it pity? Or is fucking you? Because if its the second, then you're not looking for empathy or sympathy. It's about sex. And being entitled to women's bodies. They want to have a chance at having a romantic and sex life. No woman will ever give them that chance and yet there’s an expectat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:39 AM
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But but but FREEEDOM is relying on your husband dont you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:38 AM
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I have realised that men here are incapable of nuance. Like some people prefer having money over no money. People would prefer to have an independent source of income that isn't reliant on their husband. Somehow that means well "see women don't actually want work!!!' Like most people would want to be able to not have to work? Assuming they have another source of income that's not reliant on the good graces of another person? And people even then might want to so some sort of thing that gives the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:38 AM
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Because I'd rather not have one point of failure in my life? Marriage fails? I'm fucked. I have no resume and no back up plan to speak off. Contrary to red pill screaming, alimony is almost never awarded and even if it is unless I'm married to some billionaire it won't be enough. Job fails? There's a restructure? Well it's easier to find a new job than to find a new life partner. And some people like having a purpose outside the home. And some people enjoy the intellectual stimulation of some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:33 AM
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I mean where's the line though? Lots of people claim "doing nice things like giving you rides and helping you move" But I've done both for male and female friends. And they've done the same to me. And if you get told "I'm not interested" then why is it on them to cut it off. People are responsible for their own actions and feelings. If you get told "not interested, want to stay friends" isn't it on you to make the decision to stay friends or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:44 PM
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I think women understand that everyone wants to be part of something and that everyone wants to be loved. We do actually get that. It's just that when we give out that understanding, often we get hit by "but you still won't fuck us" So then we end up being careful with said understanding. I know men and women both who have enough issues (and probably mental issues) that make it hard for them to have a relationship. I understand that it causes them pain or make them lonely. I also think that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:39 PM
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Look, if you can't figure out the nuances of social interaction and that you have never met someone who is charismatic that's not my problem Some people are great and working the room or making themselves likeable. Be angry and pedantic all you want. Not my problem. Doesn't change the fact that some people have Rizz
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:57 PM
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Charismatic people are people who make others want to be near them or interact with them. Generally the more charismatic a person the more magnetic they are. If this is a gotcha of "what specifically would that entail" I wouldn't know. I'm not charismatic myself, if I knew the answer to that I'd have gotten a job in marketing and made a killing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:21 AM
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Lots of stuff here. Again age gaps are what falls into (depending on age) amber flags. And if really young... Red flags Why? Because it presents a power dynamic that can be damaging. Also despite all the accusations of jealousy by men, I've seen so many women taken advantage of and damaged by older men when they were teens. Sorry not sorry if you can't see why that's a trigger. So first of all, if the older partner ever pulls that "but you're so mature!" Card they're likely predators If the olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:31 AM
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My God. Is everyone here aliens that need to be couched to understand how people socialise? Socialisation involves social cues that can be read or misread by people. There are four outcomes during socialisation: true positive (good vibes, good person) true negative (bad vibes, bad person) false positive (good vibes, bad person) false negatives (bad vibes, bad person) When people "detect" toxicity they are referring to two scenarios: true negative false negative These are when the person you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:54 AM
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But most men who are struggling to get dates aren't meeting the criteria of "getting dates" in the first place. Being an asshole isn't going to work for them either. It's just going to repel women who might have gone for it if they weren't assholes. Like you're imagining a pie and in that pie let's say half of the women (being generous) have high tolerance to assholishness and the other half with low Tolerance. Your other attributes might make you appeal to maybe a quarter of the pie. Except tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:03 AM
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People are not rational beings and have different temperaments. Lots of women and men are educated and come from good families and aren't partiers or whatever. But they'll all have different temperaments and approaches to life. Some women want stability, some women want to "Fix men", some women have anxious attachment and have no boundaries. I know educated women from stable families and have a good job. Some of them are people pleasers, super anxious, and will end up with crap men. Why? Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:42 PM
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Okay. Let's see how well that works out for most men This is the thing I don't get. If men here believe being an asshole gets relationships, why can't they just be assholes and see what that brings them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:27 PM
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Let me put it this way: If I say the first few times "I like light milk" and they haven't figured out by time 5 that I like light milk, isn't that their fault? If you haven't figured out that you should put some effort into her birthday, then maybe that's a you problem? Communication is great and good and direct communication is important. But if you're just too incompetent to think for yourself and remember things, then that's not a problem of communication. That's the problem of not giving a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:21 AM
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And what kind of women are these? Like the women with 5 baby daddies or hook up with prisoners or whatever are generally not moral or stable themselves Honestly it's like this entire sub bases it's "nice guy finishes last" theory on the worst masses or women with mental illnesses. How do I know this? Because I've seen both happen. Maladjusted people get together and hang out together. Well adjusted people get together and hangout together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:20 PM
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Only if it's enforced equally, men are shamed for sex to the equivalent of women and women aren't blamed for being harassed and assaulted for what they were wearing Because in my view purity culture disproportionately puts the bonus of honor and behavior and modesty on women If slut shaming happens I want men to be just as screwed over, just as ashamed. If nudes are spread I want the man who actually spread them to be soooo lambasted their shame is carried like a weight on their shoulders as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:08 PM
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Or do we simply not give a single flying fuck about any of men's issues, and all the time, money, and effort must always all go to women until every single one of women's issues are all solved 100%? Because actively doing harm is more evil than "just leave me alone" I'm sorry but that's the thing I won't ever really bend on. A man forcing themselves into my space and feeling entitled to my body and time is always going to be more harmful than being asked to be left alone. Like you aren't on fire…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:47 PM
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That's so strange I swear almost every woman I know are in fitness classes, going yoga, learning a craft of some sort, in stitch and bitch or is taking some sort of cooking class like baking sourdough or cheese making. The exceptions tend to be the ones who are partnered and married
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:25 AM
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Someone has not tried to play online games as a woman and it shows Inb4 we shit on boys online too! You don't rape threats because you got hit in a dungeon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:20 AM
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In anything that isn't "women need to date men" or "women need to be okay with men making them uncomfortable" and anything that isn't "muh divorce rape" Personally I believe women should pay half on a date I believe that you should have prenups so that everyone is on the same page about finances But also, if someone is taking time off work to raise a child, you really can't complain about "muh money" because that becomes shared money. You can't go around screening about the evils of gold digging…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:43 PM
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Not according to some other people on this sub Apparently I'm part of men's oppression and just as bad as those who segregate black people from white people if women just want to be left alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:21 PM
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So what if it doesn't work? Does that mean you're an asshole who will lie to get sex? I mean that's really your choices You can choose to be truthful or you can choose to be a lying asshole. If you decide sex is more important, then be honest with yourself and know that you're an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:18 PM
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Because in a lot of other countries, they're patriarchal and already use their magic penis to have authority They dress it up in pretty words like "protection" and "respect your mothers" but the moment you get there they're all just using patriarchal authority Inb4 you're a privileged western feminist! I'm an Asian immigrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:17 PM
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Depends on whether she wants a relationship or not I know a girl who knows that she has unrealistic dating expectations She also isn't actively looking anymore. So what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:47 AM
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Why is it that men wanting to have relatives is the equivalent to women literally just wanting the right to live and be independent The fashion industry wants to make money. It's not a moral stance. They just want to sell clothes. Women want to be treated as equals in the work place Society wants children but clearly doesn't value motherhood. Now that's hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:46 AM
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But then that person had to be willing to water it too. And I'm not willing to be the person watering it if they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:03 AM
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Why should you be with someone who is constantly threatening to leave? That doesn't make sense either. I believe in commitment yes. I believe in doing my best and doing the work and that a marriage should be 100/100 But that person should also be committed to me and be giving me his best. I also believe in compatibility and how people who are incompatible with each other aren't going to succeed regardless. And that's okay The happiest relationships and the healthiest relationships I've seen are …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:53 AM
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In that case then the two people are incompatible So why are we trying to force them together?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:48 AM
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Lots of people end up alone and miserable and lots of people end up together and miserable. But I could choose, I'd choose the one where I have a chance at fulfillment by what I can do than one where Im stuck with a person I hate. I can't find happiness if I'm with a person I hate. I can try and find happiness on my own And yes, it is hate. Because I won't be choosing "gratitude" if he isn't pulling his weight. I'm not going to choose "communication" if he doesn't communicate. And I won't commun…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:43 AM
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Marriage is a legal financial arrangement, not a romance -- although it can also become that. The nuptials should be setup in a way that make sense. And people should be sure both people are really there to contribute, and not just take. Why should I want a marriage without romance? You should make me happier with you than without you. Regarding your example of people trapped in shitty marriages. It seems like they have a huge incentive to learn to get along. Happiness is largely a choice about …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:29 AM
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Also agree that not all NDs get along, there's a lot of ADD/ADHD in my family and I've found some nerdy circles filled with ND people, and yeah it's an interesting mix of people haha. I do a lot of nerd hobbies. Lots of people around me are ND. There's a couple of autistics and lots of ADHD and ADD. There were so many of them they convinced me to check because if everyone around me was ND, I must be too! I went to a clinician and everything. Nope, still NT. it's just I'm That also am willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:22 AM
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It's a fact that in many cases a family would benefit more from having one person work less and focus on domestic issues than two people working. In my family, my dad didn't work. In my sister's family, my brother-in-law doesn't work. That isn't very normal, but it works for us. And it might! But it doesn't change the fact that it's a really big financial risk. A relationship breakdown, even without abuse, will leave one partner poorer and hurting but able to recover. And one will be less likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:59 AM
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I mean it's about as evil as men being told that what men want doesn't matter, women are entitled to get from men what they want or reject men if they want, and men's body, space, time, and feelings don't matter I mean men have historically and (many still are) doing horrible things when they are entitled to women's bodies Again why is the action that will create actual harm (violence, rape and aggression) because women are not allowed to leave the same as the action that does create any actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:16 AM
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I'd like to add that I do advocate for ND spaces I would like to say that not all NDs get along with other NDs. That's like saying all NTs get along with all NTs. Lots of people with autism can be off putting to other people with autism. And so on and so forth. I agree that a focus on helping people and encouraging people to practice socialisation is great! But we do also need to teach people boundaries and how if you violate those boundaries people are free to disengage and not deal with you. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:21 AM
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Men's problem is kinda the mirror image of women's problems. You were not allowed to leave, and that is a problem. Men's problem is that they are constantly expected to leave and never welcomed in, and that women being uncomfortable near them is men's fault even if they haven't done anything. But isn't your solution to make it so that women still can't leave? Because if a man is too boisterous or aggressive or rude or whatever and I just don't interact with them .. It's Jim Crow level racist So …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:17 AM
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Because having better social skills and being a more confident and likeable person *also" makes you a better dating prospect
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:35 AM
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What I am suggesting is that people change how they view intimate relationships. It use to be necessary to have two people working together just to have hot meals So why then is it that your comments keep bringing up how women being independent earners is such a bad thing for families and oh no how dare women compete with men for jobs? Yes of course we should view relationships in a way that brings stability and foundation to your life. But if the specter of "well it's women's fault for wanting …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:33 AM
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Define making women uncomfortable please Because for me being uncomfortable with men is also often equated with "this man has been staring at me non stop and I am very weirded out" and "this man has invaded my social space and I am trying to back away but he's so close and I don't know what to do" and also "this man has been aggressively locking me in conversation and when I leave he gets even more in my face" And somehow that's an okay thing to suffer from for male comfort? Whereas when we aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:18 AM
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Why do you think they don't have anything to do with dating? Here I thought meeting new people, gaining social skills and having mental health and well-being support to help you in your journey to well being generally made people happier and less lonely You know like how it's a loneliness problem? Not a "men want sex" problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:04 AM
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Me: I propose third spaces, mental health support and men supporting each other. I just don't see why it has to be women's boundaries being pushed back for the sake of men's comfort Men: so you want men to rot? These things write themselves Please, tell me what is your solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:48 AM
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Even if you make new third spaces that are affordable, most people tend to stay home way more, we're just way more insular. This is true. The problem is that I think a lot of people want to be part of a community but aren't willing to do the work and social obligations of being in a community Sorry, but you have to choose your poison. Community comes with downsides. It means yes you are socially obligated to attend things like people's birthdays and weddings and whatever. The amount of oh noes I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:26 PM
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And having both genders compete for the same top jobs, reduces negotiating power in the labor force. This could be solved by the labour force collectively going against the upper class Don't see how women being allowed to work is the problem here I'd be willing to give up my rights to a career if a woman would adopt me, but that's unlikely to be a future outcome. You're willing to give up a career , but should you be allowed to decide that it's okay to remove rights from other men? Remember it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:13 PM
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I constantly see the reply of "you just want women to fuck you and we won't" even to the most well explained and articulate arguments. I find often that it's because there's still nothing really I can do about it. Put this is way, I know a man who is not a bad person but is socially awkward. He's also likely on the spectrum, which means he has a hard time reading the room. I personally find him very grating and a lot to deal with. He's the son of a family friend so I am socially obligated to see…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 10:07 PM
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But who cares? Lol So her standards are too high. She won't get a man. Do what? That's her problem. If a woman's standards are too high she will be single. That's her choices. Maybe its high because she's so happy single that it doesn't matter. Maybe she's unhappy single and miserable. In which case it doesn't matter either way. It's her life and her consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:48 PM
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I mean they are... The problem is the way they frame it as "it's women's fault for not dating/having sex with these men" If they framed it in literally any other way that doesn't imply that the reason was evil feminism making women not want to date me, I'd be more game to fix it Affordable third spaces, better social connections, more robust mental health support And yes, I am aware that some feminists are against men gathering or whatever. I am not one of those. If it's not an old boys club tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:43 PM
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I feel like being less happy has less to do with "not being allowed to stay home" and more to do with the general economic system that over works everyone Feminism isn't the bogey man here, capitalism is Further my problem with this narrative is that while some women would be happier with a traditional lifestyle, there's no protection for them economically. It puts them at the mercy of a man. That's one point of failure Yeah yah accountability choose better! Well if I had a choice between "choos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:31 PM
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This sub makes me laugh so much. It's so entertaining Men: wahmen bad! They claim they're afraid but they're not! They evil feminists! Also men: women depend on us for rights! We could hurt and kill them at any point! Also men: feminism bad modern wahmen hate men for no reason how dare? Also men: wahmen shouldn't have rights and should stay at home! Also men: feminism brainwash women into hating men and not wanting to be at home! If they don't want to be stay at home they are modern and brainwas…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:51 AM
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Lmao Women want to date men the like and not be forced into marriage to men they don't like = oppression, Nazis, eugenics
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:09 AM
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I've always believed in 50/50 effort, or a better phrase would be 100/100 In that we should both be putting in the same effort into the relationship. If we're both working 40 hours each, why should one person be doing more at home? I outearn my husband, but that doesn't give me a reason to just put my feet up and make him do more because "Nyeh Nyeh I earn more" which is what men on this sub believe. On the other hand he's good with routine but really bad with noticing mess and dust. So he takes …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:34 AM
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I disagree. A relationship can be equal and between equal partnerships, with each taking the lead according to their strengths. But also with each decision with equal partnership. I don't believe in gender roles, just individual strengths. Yes that can be informed by biology (pregnancy and physical strength) but not the rest. Either I have equal authority in the household or the man is 100% a perfect human being with zero flaws or I am single Those are my three options and I'm okay with that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 01:22 AM
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I mean I ask men here what would help that doesn't involve sex and it's the men who get angry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:50 PM
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Because that's what it means for me to be submissive. To give up authority and be dependent is I think an unreasonable ask without having a perfect authority figure. So a man must be as perfect as Jesus Christ himself. The trade off for having all the authority is to never misuse it ever. And to me raising your voice, having even one iota of selfishness, and putting me even 0.000001 below you in anything is a misuse of authority. Or.... Have an equal partnership with 50/50 decision making. And y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:08 PM
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They wouldn't that's sort of the point of why I would never submit. Because it's unreasonable and insane to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:30 PM
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Okay I agree. Women are bad people too. Women commit rape and domestic violence too. Okay. Again, my point is that relationships whether platonic or romantic or sexual are voluntary You can't force people to be in a relationship. And ethically you shouldn't. To be my friend, I need to like you, want to hang out with you, be willing to share my secrets and feelings with you. If I meet you and I don't like you and I don't want to hang out with you, why should I spend my time with you? and yes I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 08:15 PM
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No, because for me a relationship has to be good and happy and healthy for both people See if he's always getting 1 extra point of happiness at the cost of my unhappiness he is excercising selfishness My idea of a relationship is one of equals. Where we would have to make sure we are compatible and all our desires and needs have equal importance. Yes it does mean that you need to find your fit, but by definition one partner is not allowed to be too selfish or take advantage, because the other on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:59 PM
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But if you lose 5 and he gains 6, then he didn’t necessarily make a selfish choice — he made a collective one. In the same way, why would a respectable person never get angry? Maybe you just never do anything that deserves anger? Because that's what it means to use your power and authority responsibility. It doesn't matter if I do anything that deserves anger. I have no authority. He as the person with all the power and all the authority cannot take advantage of that power or authority in any wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:38 PM
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To me respect is to treat someone decently and courteously. You respect their boundaries and that they have rich inner lives. To respect your partner is to acknowledge that you are a partnership and that you need both of you to make this relationship work. That also means respecting that your partner is a human being with their own desires and aspirations, not just an extension of yourself. I personally and many other women do not find empowerment or pride in submission. I find pride in my capab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:06 AM
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And yet we have done exactly that when it comes to racism against minorities and sexism against women. Why can't we do the same for sexism against men? Because "sorry you have to see if you like a person based on their personality vs the colour of their skin" is vastly different from "this man is socially awkward and weirded you out. I don't care, be friends with him anyway" As a woman who ran in radical feminist circles as a teen, very very very few of them ever refused to be friends with men j…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:34 PM
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And yet you describe the situation as "feminism trying to maximize the benefits of a relationship at the expense of men" When again that's not the dynamic at all. It's "make me happier than I am single or what's the point?" Which is not at all malicious or even "bad" in any sense of the word. It's literally just an incompatibility. I'm not berating men for being born male. I just don't want to have anyone in my life that makes my life worse than it is without them. That includes any form of cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:10 AM
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If men and women experience loneliness at the same rate, then why do we call it a men's loneliness epidemic? At that stage then men need to STFU about how women have it so easy and live life on easy mode. Which is it? Is it a general loneliness epidemic, which means women don't have it easy finding relationships, platonic or romantic? Or is it a male issue where men specifically have issues forming bonds?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:55 PM
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Sure I do. It's why I refuse to consider that the male loneliness epidemic is supposed to be solved by women dating men. Loneliness can be alleviated by friendships and other things not related to sex, sex, sex, sex. My advice to everyone is build a social circle. Live a fulfilling life. It increases your emotional and mental health and consequently can make you a more attractive option for a relationship But I know men here don't touch grass and won't listen, because I didn't give them a way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 08:56 PM
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I think men have it harder in some ways (the expectation to be a provider, masculinity making it harder to make emotional connections with friends, the thought that they are predators, not being seen as a default parent etc) However I just think that dating isn't necessarily harder so as much as different. A man who is happy single and is just using a relationship to add to his life, wouldn't have an issue whether he got 1 date or 5. Because dating is an addition, not a need. The reason the "mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:18 PM
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I did watch it in the end, and I feel like it doesn't invalidate my point that people just walk away from people they aren't compatible with Women won't pay? Walk away and insist on splitting. Don't go on a second date. I have male friends who refuse to bother a second date if she doesn't offer to split Woman not putting in equal effort? Walk away Woman make weird comments on the first or second date that you don't jive with? Walk away That doesn't seem to be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:11 AM
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I don't really go for videos like that because it's usually some person on their soap box. And also because I red faster than they talk. I'd rather read a peer reviewed piece of statistics that actually have some sort of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:48 AM
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Relationships being voluntary doesn't justify maximizing the benefits for the woman at the expense of the man, and it's especially galling after feminism seeks out any hint of inequality against women, but actively promoted blatant inequality against men. Not sure where this comes from? Relationships are voluntary, meaning men and women need to want to be with you to have a relationship By definition it addresses the cause, assuming we are all able to work and able to live our lives independentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:29 AM
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Well yes, that is precisely what feminists do to justify whatever they want. The difference is that generally men are reacting to changes in the last 20-50 years, not reacting to things that happened 100+ years ago. Considering the current roll back of women's rights and the amount of conservative right wing men in government I'm going to say that I've become even more radicalized in recent years against men. I went from "most men aren't right wing sexists" to "any men who is even vaguely not pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:58 AM
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And again, it's not men who started this, the red pill is a response to women's modern attitudes. By that logic women's attitudes are a response to historically being oppressed and forced to be dependent on men. I don't see how that's a talking point at all I agree. The problem is that most modern women don't seem to agree, and seem almost pathologically allergic to doing anything that could ever benefit men. Almost everyone in a relationship or is looking for one that I know basically requires …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:02 PM
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Not necessarily. Yes, family comes with responsibility, but that does not mean you subsume your identity. That's how you get toxic relationships. A father is responsible for the safety and well-being of his children above all. A mother is responsible for the safety and well-being of her children above all. But also, you can be someone who is not just a mother. My own mother had a job and a job title. She was also a friend. She was also other things other than just "mother". You can be a good mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:54 AM
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I dont understand why women being independent humans equated to "its just your turn" It means you and her have to always work to keep each other happy and compromise to keep a relationship going. I dont understand why this is seen to be such a bogeyman to redpillers. The redpill itself speaks of keeping a frame that a woman needs to fit in, instead of bending over backwards. Why is it such a hard concept to feel like women would also have a frame that you have to fit in? Independence doesn't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:34 PM
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And yet in almost all traditional churches they preach staying. Forgive your man for his cheating. What did you do to make home angry? Etc etc there's been so many times that this has been shown, even in the so called free western countries. You can say it's just individuals beating up their wives, but so as long as there's churches out there that give marriage counseling and advice where the advice is to stay despite cheating, mistreatment or abuse then its part of the social fabric of what it …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:48 PM
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I disagree, sure it's true that there's such a thing as "you can't expect perfection" but I don't think the answer is "date someone you know isn't right for you because society" I've seen collectivist societies too, and it's pretty crappy too. Is crazy misogynistic and it's "put up with a dude you don't like because of family" and tbh seeing those marriages is why i almost refused to get married at all. I'd rather be alone than stuck. However there is a decent middle ground here. Most people do …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:55 AM
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What part of official diagnosis did you not understand
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:30 AM
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They have official diagnosis so yes actually it is possible. Yes there are caveats that they're mostly high functioning and have essentially learned social skills. But they're great conversationalists and generally just need to be given direct communication
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:42 PM
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But that's women's rights? The ability to own wealth, to not have barriers to the workforce, to be treated equally is human rights. If you remove women's rights (i.e. The right to work, the ability to work without barriers and discrimination due to gender All you're doing is being a slave master forcing women to be in marriages (and effectively coercing sex, which is rape) for the sake of survival because .... Men want to get their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:52 AM
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Im going to try and debate in good faith here I think women and men should both be liberated from gender roles. I do think that society in general encourages making money regardless of gender. You won't find people advocating for men to stop working and only conservatives argue that women stop working. And conservatives believe in gender roles. Generally men and women have relationships with people of their own economic class. Yes there is a tendency for men to be the higher earner in a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 11:28 PM
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So 1 instance of casual sex? 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:49 PM
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Lots of differences. Lots of women have a hoe phase Lots don't Depends on what you consider hoe phase to be Does clubbing a lot and making out but no sex count? To some men yes. Does 1 instance of casual sex? Does 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:41 PM
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People are forgetting that autism and ADHD are a spectrum. There are lots of autistic men who would realllllly struggle to date. And there are lots of autistic men who actually do fit in. They're sociable. They're kind. They might just be a bit inflexible and they might have a routine. But I've seen autistic men function just fine in relationships. And same with ADHD. Lots of them aren't full never clean the house and never finish anything. A lot of treated ADHD people around me function fine. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:45 PM
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Man tries kinky casual sex app Finds women down for kinky casual sex All women must like kinky casual sex! You can't make this up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 10:15 PM
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Its more that the principle of not being a controlling partner and knowing who you are with. If I'm uncomfortable with nudity, why would I be in a relationship with someone who dresses in a way I'm uncomfortable with (or to be with someone who wants to be nude)? Being controlling about it is wrong. They're allowed to do what they want. I'm allowed to not date someone I don't want. It's pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:41 PM
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Nah. My husband and I have been through ups and downs after 10 years But we also don't compromise on bodily autonomy. Because that's fundamentally against our values. So as long as what you're wearing is socially appropriate for the venue then it's okay. What that means is in a nude beach where it is normal (and expected!) to be naked. Nakedness is okay. In a party where people don't flash tits because that's not the crowd then that is not okay. If at a wedding where formal wear is required, no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:31 PM
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Oh my god. The reasons they try to emphasise sexual arousal firing assault is to show victims that they arent broken and to stop people from using she orgasamed as a defence Women get blamed for their own rape just because they were out late, didn't scream and fight, wore matching underwear, or whatever. It is also possible that a lot of sex doesn't lead to orgasm for many different reasons Those are two distinct differences. They do not contradict. Men on this sub need to touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:08 AM
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You have two choices You wither accept her and love her regardless of her sexual history Or you don't and you leave. That's up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:57 AM
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For me a red flag doesn't need to be a flaw. It's just a flag that says STOP. Not for me. And flaw doesn't have to be a red flag. So for example religion is a red flag for me. It says STOP. why? Because I'm not religious and don't want to be in a relationship with someone who is Conservatism, belief in gender roles, and being pro-life are all red flags for me. Conversely a flaw can be stubborness or anxious etc And neither of those are red flags for me, unless it impacts me to a great extent. E.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:15 AM
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I mean I don't think it is. I'm all for ethical prostitution and all the jazz I just personally don't want to engage in it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:10 AM
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Therapy only helps you understand why you feel like the way you do and give you the tools to help you process those emotions It's still up to you to be honest, introspective and to use those tools when needed. It's also a work in progress not something that gives you immediate results. I've seen people fail therapy and it's generally that people don't want to change or acknowledge where the problem is. Often it's because doing so admits that maybe there's something that needs to change in their …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 08:49 PM
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You need therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:45 PM
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Yeah communicating unambiguously has actually helped me a lot in relationships. I'm sure that saying things and then backpedaling and going "well of course I didn't mean the words I said, obviously I meant this other thing" is super enjoyable to the people around you Sure. But I do also expect that in a relationship people have nuance and emotional intelligence to know that not everything is 100% literal I also expect that in a relationship most "ambiguous" statements can be clarified without so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 07:06 PM
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If you see someone say misogynist things online and you assume with 100% certainty that if you met them in real life that you would be able to tell they're a misogynist then you are in fact claiming that you have a supernatural ability to read minds/smell misogyny. That is.. not how that works. If you behave badly online, I'm assuming that you're likely not going to be able to keep up not being misogynistic irl. You're likely slipping up at some point. But sure. Take everything 100% literally. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:55 PM
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Men take the words "I have a gut feeling/ Im feeling creeped out" and some how extrapolate that to "women smell misogyny and are super natural mind readers! Nyeeeeeeeh" If I can see and reel that you're a misogynist because of the way you act, talk, etc even online then yes obviously you're a walking red flag Hey hey hey I could tell that the 5 year old with crumbs on his face lied about eating the cookie. I guess that means I'm a human lie detector now
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:46 PM
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I think for the most part everyone and everything would be better with direct communication However there is also a degree of emotional intelligence that is needed in a relationship. If I am cleaning around you and you have your feet up watching TV, I shouldn't need to communicate to you that I would like you to pitch in. Because you aren't a child. The exemption obviously is if we have a prior agreement (I do this room, you do the other room) or have already got a chore system that we are both …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:22 AM
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Look, it's up to you. I know people who prefer dating apps, men and women both, for the same reasons you do. It's unambiguous and you make sure you aren't "shitting where you eat" per say Some people do find it better to meet organically, but it does require more social skills and the ability to navigate situations. Often it also means joining hobbies you enjoy where you would like to meet people and not specifically for dating. But at the end of the day you do you. That's all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:35 AM
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I would suggest that you didn't, and speak to the ones who don't. Speak to the ones that you can find some common cause with, who aren't insulting you to your face or saying you're worthless. This sub is about 80% damaged men and women moaning. It's just that damaged men blame women's rights and advocate for taking it away and damaged women are like "I just don't like talking or dealing with men anymore. They suck" One of these I think is not like the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:38 AM
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Funny because from what I can see most women here talk about things like community, making friends, being happy while you're single but looking to improve your life, finding fulfillment with hobbies And men go "your career doesn't matter, ball empty stomach full, single wahmen bad!, stay at home mother good unless she divorces in which case how dare she claim my money???? Sex sex, n count, promiscuous women, agreeable women, submissive women, feminism bad". Like I can do a casual search of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:27 AM
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And constantly taking men in bad faith, reducing everything to sex, isn't helping. To be fair, I think men here reduce everything to sex. Like I'm happy to have a conversation about things like men's suicide, mental health issues, and even yes the fact that women get custody more. But almost any time all men here want to talk about is sex. Sex. Sex. Sex. Like we couldn't talk about getting more social skills and getting more community and it beckoned "but women still won't date me"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:13 AM
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I'd switch with you in a heartbeat. And as long as you don't care about my, why should I care about yours I'd happily switch social positions with a man. Lol this is peak "women are afraid men will oppress and hurt them, men are afraid of getting their feelings hurt"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:01 PM
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I think that therapy is great and I like it when people are actively working on themselves. But also it depends on what it is and people have very different tolerances to things. For example I can tolerate argumentative people (to a degree) and I can tolerate competitiveness. I can't tolerate passive aggressiveness or tantrum I have cut contact off a friend who was actively working on themself, but even when she was getting better I just can't deal with her passive aggressiveness and general pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:24 PM
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Because last I checked there isn't a political agenda to remove the rights of short men and kill men who don't touch grass How many women are raped, assaulted, denied abortion, have contraception denied to them because of religion, have speakers and politicians talk about how women's place are in the home etc? One of those is a legitimate political and legal concern. The other is getting your feelings hurt. And when it comes to what people vote for, it's their right in democracies, you are free …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:29 PM
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I can't imagine being scared comments on internet, sorry. And rich people are not scared when poor scream "eat the rich". People in privileged position feel no fear nore empathy towards those who envy them. When abortion rights are being stripped away, and the current right wing governments being voted in... I take everything people put on the Internet seriously Because these people vote. It's such a position of privilege to think that public opinions don't matter. I'm an immigrant. Racism and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:13 PM
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Don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:12 PM
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I don't believe in being a good gf or wife. I believe in being a good partner, gender neutral. If a man wants a woman who adheres to gender roles then they know where the door is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:02 AM
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Well I'm married so I've got nothing to be ashamed of Personally I think men who screech hoe when they themselves have high counts are the men who are gross and not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:21 AM
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But it's not about adapting and steering social situations, it's if the person is making you uncomfortable why would I want to see them again in a romantic context? Like, generally I'm a pretty open book anyways, but if someone went "what's your number?" Then the question becomes, why are you asking that? If they've got strict body count rules then perhaps even if I do fit their criteria they're not for me. If they're religious in any way shape or form they're not for me If they're just genuinel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:34 AM
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Lol troll better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:49 PM
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Obsessed with numbers? Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:24 PM
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You're allowed to break it off regardless of anything. That's fine. As I said it naturally comes up in conversation then people don't get offended. But also, most men who ask for "a number" generally also end up being people with really bad social skills so it comes off as kinda off. No judgement or shaming, she can do what she wants but I'm not about that life lol Well I would judge very silently so you're doing better than me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:49 PM
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It's not really "asking about your past" that's offensive imo. It's how they ask about it. Like I've had cool discussions about past exes, or flings, or whatever. But then there are men obsessed with a number and almost all of them give off vibes that are like "women shouldn't sleep around but it's okay if men do it" And it immediately puts my hackles up. I had a guy tell me once that he was saving himself and was looking for someone who wanted to do the same thing. And I was not offended at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:10 PM
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I think that animosity is largely unfounded and a result of feminist brainwashing, but they feel it nonetheless and that will have consequences. Ngl my brainwashing to hate men didn't come from feminist, it came from men who: say things like your body my choice Complain about how women aren't women anymore because we don't want to clean, cook and do all the house chores for them seeing men complain about divorce rape...and then also want women who want to be housewives. say women should want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:27 AM
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Seems like the problem there is still squarely at the feet of men in power. I'm so done with the idea that "bad women make equality look bad". If equality looks bad to you, you're the problem. NB4: no not getting sex or relationships will never be as bad as not being able to have freedom and independence. End of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:56 PM
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I think people need to give marriage their best shot. You choose to make it work. But at the end of the day if you are miserable, you should divorce and prioritize your personal happiness A relationship only works if you're both putting the same 100/100 effort and have agreed to the same path in life without resentment. Like have they become lazy? Do they take you for granted and you have communicated that? Do they pick fights for no reason? Have anger issues? Picked up a drinking habits? You co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:15 AM
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I disagree. I don't think it's just attractiveness (physically) that's the issue. In fact, quite often I see people describe themselves "unattractive and subhuman I have no hope" and they're at worst average looking. I think there are fringe cases for "I'm so unattractive I'll never date", but commonly there is generally something else that's the issue. A lot of it is things like black and white thinking, rigidity, confidence or not understanding social norms. For example dating apps can be very…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 12:55 AM
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The absence of data is not a proof that something isn't true, but it is the responsibility of the person with a hypothesis to present data that backs it up. Like I don't "prove* that gravity doesn't exist. That's not how that works. Science has to prove that gravity exists, not the other way around. So no, until Evo psychology manages to prove something with evidence that isn't "weeeelllll this is why men want to fuck 14 year olds because something something child bearing age is 12!" I'll keep r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 06:06 AM
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And yet its mostly used by misogynists on the Internet. One fallacy of this is that ‘human nature’ is extremely nebulous and can be interpreted in a variety of ways. It’s easy to cherry-pick the characteristics which you think constitute human nature and invent your own ‘evolutionary psychology story’ to interpret them. Perhaps the most serious problem with these interpretations, however, is that they are based on erroneous assumptions about the human race’s past. The underlying assumption of mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:31 AM
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Even other psychologists find Evo psych kinda dumb https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/out-the-darkness/201412/how-valid-is-evolutionary-psychology/amp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:54 AM
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Honestly I think the entirely of psychology is just vibes, including the Evo psych bit. They think they're biology but they aren't. Evo psych is basically astrology for men. But but but my bioessentialism means everything you do is about mate selection!!! It gives the same vibes as "you're a Capricorn! That's why you do this!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:39 AM
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again; first attractive, then hot, now beautiful. These all have significantly different Ever thought that for a lot of people they're all basically the same thing? Finally, making the claim that evolutionary psychology is anti-science is ignorant. Evolutionary psychology investigates theories like any other domain of science, and the premise that evolution has selected for traits that preference survival is a rationale argument. In fact, it is more scientific to hold that women use makeup due t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:21 AM
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How can your female friends find you "hot" if they're straight? They obviously can't be reflecting their own personal perceptions of attraction, I have found beauty in people I wouldn't want to fuck If you can't, I think you're projecting a bit. social perception Yes culture affected what everyone finds attractive. Still don't care about men. appealing to your own sex would be beneficial biologically because competing successfully against them increases your access to mates anyway I don't do eco…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:25 PM
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In this case it's attractive as in "I think I look great" Like I don't care if men find it hot. I'm more likely to give a shit if my girls find me hot. I like sparkly makeup for example. The amount of men who told me "they like a natural look" and I've gone "why do I care what you think?" On the other hand if a girl told me that my make up was "too much" I'd be an insecure ball for a few days. I'm not chasing the validation of men. I've gone to slumber parties where there were no (straight) men …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:26 PM
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I like looking at myself in the mirror and feeling attractive. If men are around, I actually dress less attractive because I know that some of them are dicks/get the wrong idea. When I'm with my girls I get high on the validation my girls give me and I put in extra effort. If a man could give me a compliment without it being sexual that would be great too. But I know that's likely not going to happen unless they're gay. So I dress down when straight men are around and dress up when it's girls or…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:10 PM
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Men: you shouldn't want equal power, especially if that power imbalance were originally shapes by an unfair and sexist system! How dare women want more! And yes money = power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:31 AM
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Economics and earning money are the barometers of power in life. Actual power. Power that's not dependent on other people. Money buys you shelter, food, and independence. Not having money forces you to depend on someone and be dependent on their whims. If you have money you can live on your own. If your home life is bad you can afford to leave. If your community is a bad fit you can leave. You can, with sufficient money, leave countries. Money determines if I have a place to sleep. If I can affo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:43 PM
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Sigh. Once again PPD men are unable to understand the difference between removing economic / systemic structures of power versus being owed dating, sex or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:09 AM
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It depends on what you mean by interact. For example, I don't care if men don't want to be friends with me but like if you're a manager or a CEO and you only interact with men, you are also more likely to give men better projects or work, which makes it easier to promote men. And that is sexist because you're denying women opportunities in the work place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:40 AM
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It really depends on the couple and the situation. For example I admit that in my relationship we tend to outsource our manual labour. We bring in mechanics. We bring in plumbers. The only time "heavy lifting" was ever needed was when we moved furniture in. And that was a long time ago. We have an electric mower that's easy to use and doesn't need strength, so I don't mind doing it. I'm a weird person who enjoys mowing and vacuuming. So there's very little manual labour happening here Same with …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:22 AM
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Perhaps I don't know your actual circumstances. I just find it weird that you very obviously are looking for kinky people only to gasp and be surprised that some of those people are aggressively kinky And then generalise out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:52 AM
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Yes, but you are specifically looking for kinky women. This means that regardless that means that the statistics for people into even more aggressive stuff will be much higher in that community than the general population. It's like where are you going to find men who take steroids to build muscle? The general population? Or the gym specifically catering to muscle bro culture? If the gym has a 50% steroid use and you can't then say "literally 50% of men take steroids!" And that's if you meet eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:26 AM
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Wait, you specifically look for kinky women ... And are disappointed that lots of women you know are kinky? And somehow generalise that to all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:46 AM
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Some people don't want the clinical booty call of apps. When women go to a club it's because they want to dance, they want to hang out with their friends etc etc. Alcohol lowers inhibitions too. Then if you're open to a hook up, you can scout a guy, see if you vibe and go from there. It feels much more organic and fun than an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:04 PM
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Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:47 AM
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Relevance? I just don't care what men want in a woman general. I don't care if they want casual sex or not. What matters to me is whether they meet my standards and make me happy. If they feel like they don't value me as a person because sex/no sex/casual sex/ past numbers whatever then they can leave
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:34 AM
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But I don't care what they think is more validating I just care about me and my relationship. If men don't like it, there's the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:28 PM
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If a woman was really insistent on paying her half of the bill, it’d leave me thinking she wasn’t into me and wanted to be damned sure I didn’t feel like she “owed” me anything. That's interesting. Going Dutch is so normal where I am Generally etiquette (unspoken though) is the guy to offer to pay, the girl to offer to split, and then the bill is split. I've only had a couple of dudes insist on paying and that was when I was really young Maybe it's my bubble but a lot of guys I know consider it …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:35 AM
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I don't But I look at how they talk about women on this sub and make the inference that they aren't nice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:59 PM
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And I claim that all you're doing is your own version of "oppression Olympics" If you have/been discriminated against (which all women can be victims of regardless of skin colour) in a system then you have been oppressed. I never said that women didn’t suffer in the world in numerous ways. I have previously heard of this thing called “being alive”. You did claim that women who are white do not suffer from oppression If they are suffering in a way that is propagated or supported by a system (i.e.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:30 AM
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I believe in financial equity. That means that while dating we go 50/50. Once we're in a relationship (e.g. living together) things should be split equitably What does this mean? We each pay a percentage of our income on shared expenses depending on what we earn. We share chores equitably between us depending on who is working more hours. If married or long term all money is pooled in one account. We each get the same set budget to spend on fun money. All chores and childcare shared equitably de…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:47 PM
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Sorry oppression isn't always lashes on the back A white woman was raped in Britain and had her underwear paraded in court, because rape isn't rape if you wore pretty underwear. If a woman is told by her church that she must serve her husband, she is still inferior and therefore oppressed. I don't care what her skin colour is. (Men claim that they're also told to serve their wives but I haven't seen a form of religion that means men should submit to their wives but I've seen many the other way a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:53 AM
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Sure, but also... Why should other people care what I think of them? Some people on this sub run around going around thinking that people need to be attractive to them. Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:22 PM
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You wouldn't need to replace a man because you picked him properly and he cares about you. Weren't you the one talking about points of failure? In this case you make one point of failure (a husband) and because you are financially dependent on him you're screwed. It means if make a mistake in your pick a man you are now doomed to a life of misery. That's one single point of failure. Whereas having a boss means that you have less points of failure as if you don't like your boss you can use your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:03 AM
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I get the part that you want, but baked in there is the assumption that he sexually desires you right? If you met a guy who fully met your list, and would be willing to be your partner, but for whatever reason, didn't 'like' you. (Maybe gay and needs a green card) Would you really WANT that? I think the lack of sexual attraction would be a deal breaker, more-so for women then men even. Sure, but again. This is in the context of I bet you I could find a man who'd take even the most undesirable wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:51 AM
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This isn't to say that the absence of sexual attraction was good thing, I said it in the context of women being liked by men If there is one thing women are aware of is that men would be happy to fuck us but not like us as a person. The bar for "find one man who would fuck me" is incredibly low. A man who likes me as a person, cares about my wants and needs, treats me how I want to be treated, and isn't going to expect "submissive woman" is a much higher bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:48 AM
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Which is why it's best to wait until things settle down for marriage (like late 20s at the earliest) and make sure that you have compatible life goals. but like if he wants to move countries and I don't, and we can't work it out then I guess I'd rather break up and divorce than be somewhere I don't want to be And if he would rather divorce that stay then that's his choice. But we're on equal footing and are able to choose what outcome we would prefer for ourselves. And if a man went you should g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:17 PM
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Lmao a combination of extrovertion, actual attractiveness and self esteem. Legit my and my BFF once had a conversation and we had very different opinions. Like the girl I thought was the prettiest was not her pick. Her pick I thought was objectively the most unattractive. So who would win out would just be who had the loudest supporters, and those at the bottom will be the ones with the least self esteem because they'd put themselves there while the rest of us argued it out. Tbh experiments like…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:42 PM
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Like them as a person. Like, I want to hangout with you and enjoy your company for extended periods of time without sex, cooking, cleaning etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:32 PM
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Depends I usually compliment other women as a whole. Like their outfit is on point and compliments their body shape, their make up etc. if I'm in a store and we're buying clothes, I'm a lot more straight up. I don't want people buying bad clothes. But also, I don't go around believing my opinions are worth jack. Who cares if I find someone attractive? I know what video people are thinking about and I actually think that's more of an extrovert/introvert dynamic than anything else Those who were l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:31 PM
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Well your man is dependent on his boss So seems to me I'm just removing a middle man who also expects me to submit 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:14 PM
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Hmmm... Let's see managers need to exhibit professional standards for the most part and also have to submit to their boss. This means that at least in most places there is a check and balance Also submitting for a particular period of time (9-5) which then allows me to do whatever the fuck I want with the money paid to me in my off hours is different to submitting to man 24/7 for no other reason than the magical penis Also working for a boss means that I have the money to leave relationships tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:46 PM
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Yes. I don't hangout with them either Again this isn't a "women don't hangout with men" issue It's... I don't hangout with people I don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:46 AM
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Less than 5% of men on this sub can have a nuanced conversation. I lose empathy not for issues but for individuals. If the poster is a man who complains about women who aren't submissive (or "agreeable" which this sub likes to substitute for it) then no I don't have empathy If the poster claims women would be happier without independence (and refuses to acknowledge all the downsides to this with anything more than "choose better") then I have no empathy. Id tell them to just be honest, they're o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:30 AM
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I'm not necessarily no longer empathetic to men. Im just no longer empathetic to the portion of men who you can't have a nuanced and rational conversation with. And the moment they spout any of that rhetoric, then you know you can't have a rational conversation with them. And I have zero empathy for men who think I shouldn't have rights at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:42 AM
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"if women worked less, they'd be forced to marry for money and that's what we want" a lot? Even the redpill podcast bros don't usually frame it that way. They usually frame it as, "women were happier when they had less independence". I think these guys are foolish regardless. For me they're functionally the same thing. The second is just a lot less honest. Because regardless they know that there will be a lot of women who would be unhappy about it. They also ignore the reality of the very big po…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:33 AM
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Women aren't enforcing an informal gender segregation. Women aren't going around saying they will never talk to men again. But I don't make a habit of making small talk on the bus with strangers. I'm just uninterested in it Most women are happy to talk to men in environments that are conductive to a conversation such as at work or in hobby groups or what not. But it comes with the caveat that you are someone that they enjoy talking to I'm a nerd. I exist in nerd spaces. I don't hate men in them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:58 AM
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I think for me the biggest issue is that it's incredibly difficult to discuss gender relations when having sex and getting a relationship is frequently compared to money. Yes, affection is different to having the means to eat, sleep and be independent. Every other thread is how women were better off as housewives, how dare we not want that anymore, etc etc. there are comments on this very thread arguing about well at time women didn't want to vote so men should get a Cookie for giving women a vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:28 AM
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The bounce of probabilities is that on average the majority of men exist in the middle of the spectrum and the majority of women exist in the middle of the spectrum. The issue is that one extreme of the section(which is a minority of men) still gets girls who are also on one extreme of their spectrum because they all have very high impulsive traits. And the other extreme of the spectrum get nothing because the girls on the other extreme of the section are also not dating anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:15 PM
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Good, much closer. And actually — good points, those things definitely played a role too. Now you’re thinking critically! I think you're the one with less critical thinking. Instead of using your energy against the actual economic reasons such as capitalism, you care more about "women shouldn't have entered the work force in large numbers", Numerous studies (which I showed) shows that women entering the workforce has very little to do with wage stagnation. Personally I'm glad it hurt the family …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:05 PM
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My man when I was 17 I got good grades, was top of some of my classes, and also was drinking underage. I also wanted to travel, see the world, and do shit when I was young. Tbh I'd hate both of them. One for being too stupid and reckless and one for being straight laced and unfun. I'd probably choose twin A because I'd have a fun time and then fuck off to college anyway. Hilariously my bf at the time was a man who enjoyed random road trips and partied with me a lot. He's also a good guy, a great…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:49 PM
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To add, the unbridled growth of billionaires as opposed to the money being spread out across the population
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:10 AM
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Unbridled capitalism, the erosion of unions, and the lowering of the value of labour due to globalisation and outsourcing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:09 AM
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The push to enter into the workforce, however, backfired when capitalism used it to justify paying employees (relatively) less because a household had two incomes now. Not how the economy works https://hbr.org/2018/01/when-more-women-join-the-workforce-wages-rise-including-for-men https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=n2n1
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:46 AM
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You can still choose to have a traditional family set up, it's just harder. Under a regime without feminism, half the population get no choice what's so ever. So by definition feminism does give more freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:12 AM
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Then the problem isn't women working, it's the current state of unbridled capitalism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:40 AM
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Why can't I choose who I married and also choose to work if I want to? That's the point of freedom. Choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:47 AM
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Freedom as defined by me is the ability to make my own decisions have a life that makes me happy. Being forced to rely on a man due to a system out of my control goes against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:46 AM
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Lol I do 40 hours, we both do 50% of everything. Literally all chores are done in why 3 hours a week maximum? I don't buy heavy shit to need it. So, How exactly are you more free? Because I can make my own choices, decisions etc. No man in my life is shit, because the moment they are shit I kick them out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:32 AM
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No man in my family does mechanical shit. If something breaks it goes to the mechanics for repair. I very rarely need anything heavy carried. And I mow my own grass. I don't recall the last time "handiwork" was needed in my house. 99% of things around the house is cooking and cleaning. Therefore men need to do 50% of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:15 AM
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Here's a question, if being dependent on your boss is the same as being dependent on a man And your average working man is dependent on his boss It seems to me that the position just then becomes that I am dependent on the goodwill of a man who is dependent on his boss. In which case the consequences for me seem worse? Also interestingly a lot of the 70s were also women pulling the double shift e.g. doing most of the house work and child rearing and also working. Which for me the answer would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:43 AM
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Divorce is a lot harder than me changing jobs. And I can keep changing jobs too I'm not going to keep marrying new men just because. Unlike some people I marry for love as opposed to just gold digging. Honestly men on this sub complain about women using them as ATMs but seem to want systems to essentially force women to be gold diggers because they have to be dependent on men. Have you also considered that a system that makes women dependent on men instead of independent means that likely there …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:58 AM
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We are yes. If I had an employer who didn't treat me well (assuming a relatively okay job market) I can change jobs until I find someone who treats me well. Hell, I changed jobs so I can just get better pay. I also only have to deal with my employer during business hours, and I get compensated for this. If my husband didn't treat me right, didn't share my values, or made me miserable that's impacting my home life, I have more of an obligation to try and fix him as a person. I don't have to fix m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:04 AM
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For reals. I am fairly NT and some ND friends have told me to get diagnosed because I said that I... Try to take the vibe of the room and make sure people are interested? And that I try to ask lots of questions to get people to engage with me? That felt fairly normal to me? I'm fairly good with people So for the record I did go and see if I should get a referral because I felt like if the diagnosed NDs around me think I am one too I should get checked. The answer was a resounding no I'm just a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:16 AM
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As a woman who also supports paper abortions, I think it has to be something that men have to do in writing (i.e. so many men lie and say they're serious or want to start a family and then bail), they also have to make the decision early enough that I am able to get a medical abortion if I decide I don't want to raise the child alone. They also have to have zero contact with the child I've seen so many stories of "my dad didn't want me so he left the country/ was a deadbeat/ didn't want to pay c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:13 AM
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Yes. Some threads have been: if feminism and equality made women happy why are they so depressed?! Because there is no other reason women can be depressed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 11:03 AM
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Never said it was sustainable? Just said that it was fun and not necessarily conflicting to being productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:09 AM
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Okay here's a question: If you're a spontaneous person, who enjoys going out and partying, travelling spontaneously, and being a bit of a free Spirit, would it then be natural that you would want someone who did the same thing? if you were a person who didn't enjoy that and preferred quiet nights in, conversations over tea instead of alcohol, would it be natural that you would enjoy someone who did the same thing? Newsflash, like attracts like. Birds of a feather flock together. So yes spontaneo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:09 AM
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You don't have to sure But if you did and had fun, what was the harm? Plenty of young people build themselves, work, travel and party I don't understand why it has to be one or the other I worked full time. I studied. I got great grades. I climbed the career ladder. I had hobbies. I went to the gym. I went on hikes. And I also partied every few weeks, had some great nights out in Bali etc. I got drunk. It's not character building. I just had fun. If it wasn't fun for you that's fine. It was for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:24 AM
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Hmm, spontaneously travelling places, having parties and doing my big OE when I had no responsibilities such as a mortgage and I had more energy. Nothing wrong with that. Now I have a mortgage, saving up for retirement and have less energy so I've transitioned to less spontaneous stuff. Don't see why either is a negative
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:15 AM
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Ok true. But I would LOVE to do 50/50 pregnancy and labor and then breast feeding. Sounds like a dream. For me that means as pregnancy progresses he takes over the load of everything else. And you know I'm responsible for what goes in the baby, he takes what comes out. It makes sense because again 50/50 majority of the time on benefits men. These days I'm seeing more and more women kicking men who don't clean to the curb and it makes me happy. All the men around me are clean and do half (and in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:55 PM
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50/50 is a myth and only benefits men because it is usually monetary. Only because women don't enforce it and don't kick out men who don't do 50/50 at home That’s it. It doesn’t mean our personal relationships need to also be 50/50 and a 100% equal. Are you dense? People can do whatever they want in their personal relationships. However, in personal relationships all effort should be equal. If he works 40 hours paid and she works 40 hours unpaid then it's equal. I don't want to stay at home. Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:45 PM
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Oh so you're trad wife looking for trad husband, but I'm the one desperate for male approval? Please. I just believe in men doing 50/50 around the house and drop kicking men who believe I should do more chores, emotional and nurturing around the house. But yeah sure I'm the one who needs male approval. Again, you do you but if the statement "all genders should be equal" is triggering to you that's more about your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:34 PM
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If I’m expected to take career hits and sacrifice my health to be a mother and a wife, It's a date, it's not that deep. You're not even sure if it's a relationship yet, and yes paying "upfront" for being a "mother and wife" get real Who says I don’t show that I’m a kind generous person? I do and it’s not monetary on my end. More like acts of service. No no no. It has to be he equivalent act that a guy can suss out on the first date. What is the "generous" equivalent of doing something for the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:24 PM
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Nah. If it's just $20 why aren't you paying for it? Why aren't you showing that you're a kind and generous person? Seems like a strange double standard that we expect men to be "generous" but not women. It is the year of our Lord 2025. Pay for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:17 PM
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If the only reason you didn't go out for a second date is because he didn't pay (as opposed to him being rude) then she's shallow and using men as an ATM. Same as the dude who expects sex after 3 dates. You can break up and not dare someone for whatever reason. That is your right. But let's be honest with ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:25 PM
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Women aren't better emotionally than men. Or even better at empathy or whatever. I've met just as many emotionally crippled women as I have men. Their crash outs are just as bad. They just look different. lots of women are screwed in the head and go for bad boys and emotionally unstable men. Often these girls either have bad role models (i.e. one of their parents is controlling or abusive) or they're super sheltered and so seek partners that "take care of them" (tell them what to do) stop asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:01 AM
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Personally my experience is that average people date average people But sure. Wahmen bad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:14 AM
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Nope. The post I was replying to asked why we take finances into account and we shouldn't take finances or chores or whatever into account at all. Man, woman, nonbinary, attack helicopter whatever. We all need to bring something to the table that helps the other. Because once your lives start to intertwine you now have to be in each other's space a lot. Your finances impact each other. Your flaws impact each other. Your strengths help each other. So finances and chores or whatever. You do need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:54 AM
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You're either misunderstanding me or you just want to argue over nothing. I'm saying that there is more than just "initial attraction" to a relationship. The best way to keep your "attraction alive" and "stoke the flame" to do your best for each other and have both partners doing their best for each other. That means taking into account Lifestyles, finances and chores. That means being consistent and putting in the effort each day. If you're still deliberately misunderstanding me and thinking th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:44 AM
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They don’t lie to themselves that masturbation during sex is as good as what the other partner gets. Sex is for men. If you are straight then I feel very bad that you have never had a good and satisfying sexual encounter
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:40 AM
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Okay. Sure. The post I made was genderless If you don't want to, don't be in a relationship with a woman with too much debt or doesn't make enough money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:38 AM
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Easier? Yeah I wouldn't say better if you find the right partner. And for another, that doesn't equate to sex being "socialized for women to have no issue with". Sure it takes more for women, but it's still fun if done right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:41 AM
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I understand that you are sex repulsed or anti-sex. I understand that it may colour your perception of sex. Most women are not sex repulsed and there is more to sex than just "being socialized to find no issue in objectifying positions" And again foreplay exists If a hetero woman wants to have good sex, they just have to kick out men who don't put in the effort to do good foreplay
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:23 AM
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Fun fact... Sex can be fun for women too. Fun fact, foreplay exists. Like if you're viewing hetero sex as just penis goes in and out then maybe your brain is porn washed Source: heterosexual woman. Who likes sex. And sex with men at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:40 AM
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What in the femcel? While I agree about "decentering men" (and I believe men should also "decenter women") This is my obligatory "not all men" Lots of men are broken and not good partners. Lots of women are broken and not good partners. Often hurt people find someone to hurt... Perpetuating a cycle of hurt. But while both men and women are trash. There are also people who aren't. You have to put in the effort to find them, but it can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:25 AM
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Exactly that. Very very rarely (except in cases with an abuser or a cheater) have I ever seen a relationship implode due to one big event. It's almost always tiny little ones. That add up to big things. It's funny but most relationships I found I knew the break up was coming because one partner was unhappy for a while. But it's small things that turn into big things and then suddenly something breaks the Camel's back. I've had both women and men confide in me and it's always things like "they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:48 AM
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Id say it means love, affection, and kindness. Someone who's company you enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:42 AM
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Okay then. Do you agree with me that relationships are based on more than just "attraction and companionship"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:16 AM
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You're being incredibly literal over there. No you're right attraction doesn't die immediately like a big bang theory. But imo most relationships die with a whimper not a bang (unless in certain circumstances like cheating). It's when resentment quietly takes over, arguments get more frequent or escalated, the slow death of romance etc. Daily life takes its toll. Bills, stress, kids if applicable, different expectations, in laws, social commitments or obligations, lifestyle differences. That's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:10 AM
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And men are free to leave that woman. This wasn't meant to be a gendered thing. At the end of the day men, women, nonbinary whatever. Juice needs to be worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:39 AM
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Because the honeymoon period ends. When they don't work and put in the effort often resentment starts to leech in. If you're frustrated at someone because they keep quitting jobs or getting fired for preventable reasons (not tied to the economy, just I know some people who can't keep a stable job) or because they spend frivolously or they're too stingy or whatever resentment inevitably comes up. To keep that spark alive both parties need to put the work in. To keep each other afloat, to keep eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:38 AM
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Because committing to someone means that their problems are now your problems and your problems are their problems. Not to mention if you start living together and sharing expenses then yes how well that other person cleans, cooks and their finances start impacting your life. If you're adding to the mess but not helping me clean up, I wouldn't want to live with you. And yes, most people (though not all) want to cohabitate with their long term partners. If they're constantly in debt or have bad f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:54 AM
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Perhaps you have different values to a lot of people? I don't value fighting ability. To me a man's most important skill to be my partner is how to mutually support me emotionally and financially. We'll both work 40 hours full time, both contribute around the house, and when it happens, mutually parent a child. I wouldn't be with a man who believed in gender roles anyway. I'd rather be single and celibate. I don't live in a warring tribes country so I don't particularly care about fighting abili…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 02:24 AM
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Why do men need to learn how to fight? And I don't think getting into one or two fights equals me cooking every day. One of those is way more effort over time than the other. I have three brothers, a husband and a dad and none of them have ever been in a fight beyond one or two school yard fights when they were in school. It's certainly not equal to me putting in extra time to cook
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:20 AM
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It's no one's job to cook or clean. Or buy a ring. You can't demand either. But also, don't be surprised if people don't want to be with you because of it. I would rather be single and celibate than be with a man who thinks it's my job to cook. And if a man would rather not be with me than spend money on a ring that's fine too. But be honest and upfront about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:14 AM
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Seems like that is his fault for not demanding better. It's not that hard. Relationships are voluntary. If you're a net drain on someone's life, then they should not need to be with you. Friendship is the same in many aspects. If hanging around you makes me feel worse than better, then why should I want to hang out? Relationships are just more intense because we have to live with each other for a long time and in close quarters. Relationships required compromise. It means work. It means sharing …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:22 PM
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...you know men can also demand the same and leave if she's not being a net benefit to his life right? Like the idea goals of a relationship is that you're both making each other's life better. But only she can judge if he's a benefit to her and only he can judge if she's a benefit to him. If the juice ain't worth the squeeze, why are they together?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:07 PM
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Hey man, you asked a question,I answered. If you don't want to actually engage with it that's fine. And you asked why people shame people who passport bro and I listed the many reasons they are. All you have to do is visit their subreddits and you can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:06 AM
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It seems like it’s more directed at sex tourism, not geomaxxing. Essentially the same thing I believe there is a pretty convincing argument that all relationships are transactional in one sense or another. I guess the question is what is being transacted. There is a difference between a relationship that's built on mutual affection and one where it's explicitly money for sex or mail order bride situations. If you can't tell the difference that's just part of the issue. nothing against sugar baby…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:18 AM
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It has a bad rep because of how the people talk about it. They base their moves on stereotypes (aka submissive Asian waifu) or complain about "degenerate western wahmen." The passport bros subreddit love to even rank countries based on women's sexual availability and perceived submissiveness. The way they talk about women often lowers then to objects to take advantage off, have sex with, and then leave. They also often ignore the real life realities and inequalities those countries face. Poverty…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:27 PM
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I don't think women are emotionally mature enough to raise children either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:11 PM
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If actually argue if he calls her old and unattractive, that she should either have a serious talk with him to address the issues and find out where this is coming from, and if he's just being mean to divorce him. By the same standard if tell men to divorce or break up with women if they don't care about his emotions, don't care about his needs, nag him, micromanage him, or try and change him to suit her preferences without herself putting as much efforts to change herself to suit his preference…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:00 PM
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The argument there isn't that it's a need. It's people will have sex, whether we want them to or not. People will have unprotected sex whether we want them to or not. Forcing everyone to be abstinent obviously does not work as all of history has shown us. But leave it to the rational gender to be unable to understand nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:54 AM
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Id take mens activism more seriously if they actually actively campaigned for more CARE scholarships or more men's homeless shelters or changing legislation or whatever. But except for a few select internet spaces most of men's spaces are "wahmennnn don't daaaate meeee" "wahmen cock carousel!!!" "Wahmen seeex" And then "men are the rational gender!, why can't wahmen just be happy being baaangmaaaiids! Single mothers baaaad!" But men are the rational gender. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:20 PM
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I don't get it. As a woman most men around me have good hygiene. There were exceptions of course. Some people who were crap to sit next to in public but for the most part it's been fine. The exception is when I go to nerd spaces, but even that depends on the space. Anecdotally mtg has the worst smell, some card games are better (for some reason ygo gamers seem to dress and smell better). Dungeons and dragons I only play with friends or friends of friends because I don't want to accidentally get …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:55 PM
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I don't think it's at all: men descend into horrible brutes. I think that in general people with power abuse or hurt people without . Queens were as bad as kings. There are probably just as many abusive women as there are men. But historically men had power over women. Does it mean that every man was bad? No. I don't even think most men are bad. I do think that when we raise people to believe that they are superior (aka heads of the household due to magic penis. Or you must guide your wife. Or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 10:04 AM
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Not really. That's just the same argument as "not all men" Some issues are systemic - there is a preference for taller men, there is a stronger female preference for men to be "generous" (aka pay for stuff) etc. And there are male gender roles that are unfair and are perpetuated by women as well as men. Yes some men get unusually bitter over one crap gf. But then so do women so...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:38 AM
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That depends on what we are saying or meaning when we say "blame" I don't blame people for their own abuse or assault, regardless of whether they did something dumb. Blame means fault and accountability. And fault and accountability only rests on the perpetrator. On the other hand there is such a thing as "personal responsibility" in that I think we as people can take responsibility for ourselves as best we can and minimize harm. With the caveat that regardless of responsibility, victims are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:20 PM
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I think a lot of it is the manosphere and incels poisoning the well. You hear enough of that rhetoric online (how dare wahmen dont date me, they should be happy being tradwives and pleasing a man, single mother baaaaaaad!!!) And then you get that in real life (your body, my choice) and the current abortion bans And we'll, is it such a stretch to think that men who complain about their lack of gf become people who start to threaten your rights? That the implication is "fuck me or else?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 01:22 AM
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Men: if I have to pay taxes I should get to violate women's bodily autonomy! They should be happy with that!! Also men: men are the rational gender! We so logical! Wahmen have emotions reeeeeee!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:10 PM
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Dude, long sleeves exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:35 AM
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So... a woman who has 4 different baby daddy's isn't the issue in your eyes? I'm confused, is she an innocent angel? You're offloading a lot of choices there on her end. She's an issue sure, but monetarily supporting those children is part of being a baby daddy That's the point. This while sub frames things as "single mothers blah" or "single mothers take my taxes" when as far as I'm concerned at least a single mother is taking responsibility by actually doing the raising. What's the other guy d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:24 PM
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Seems strange that the person stepping up to take responsibility takes equal blame with the person running away from responsibility. You wouldn't have to pay so much taxes if the man actually was a parent right? I know separated parents who don't get benefits because both parents are involved in their kids life. The men have equal custody and everyone pays their share. I'm cases where the mother has primary custody the man pays enough child support that no one is getting benefits or at getting m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:11 PM
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Why are framing this as woman's terrible decision making? Did she give birth to Jesus Christ as a virgin? How about we blame the men for not taking accountability and paying for their own kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:17 PM
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Does this apply to a woman complaining that her male partner doesn't do enough housework? Or is that somehow a societal issue here? If she spent her whole life trying to get a man, choosing her career path specifically for a man then yes And honestly I am a big advocate for breaking up with a man if he isn't up to snuff on that too. Would be much easier if women walked away from relationships where thean doesn't pull his weight. In a marriage or friendship the debt is still there, it's just not …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:41 PM
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Yes it is. When I was 18 a part of why I studied what I did and a part of why I continued despite the pain and difficulty of getting my degree and a part of why I forced myself to go to work every day even when I was completely miserable. The whole pay off here was to provide for a wife and family Then that seems to be a you problem. You made choices in which your entire path is about "winning a woman" at the end. If a woman went out specifically to just get a man to exclusion of her own happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:48 AM
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The fact that men earn more on average is a sign of yet another sacrifice that men make for the sake of women or at least of pleasing women So pick another job. Be a teacher or a social worker. I'm sorry but your career path, whichever it is that you chose, isn't a sacrifice you make for a woman. That's a choice you made for yourself, probably when you were 18. It's not just income here though, is is it. Look at bias towards the primary caregiver in terms of how physical custody is handled in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:49 PM
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The question is what people expect by "reciprocity" I don't expect abject selflessness at all. We should pay taxes. We all should all follow the law. We should all treat each other with respect and decency. We should all contribute to society (if able bodied) either through through income or through caring for the sick, elderly or children. Except in online spaces men don't want this reciprocity at all. Men want women's bodies. Men online claim that the social contract is "men taxes and work, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:52 AM
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Define good guy behavior? I expect common decency from everyone, including myself regardless of whether they're attracted to me or not. I'm not going to take away the rights of people regardless of whether they're nice to me or not. Because I believe human rights are human rights. Like I've never met a Palestinian, I still think they deserve human rights and to not be genocided. Way I see it either men are human beings and should be held to the standards of common decency or men are inherently b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:17 AM
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In my country it's harder to find a millennial without a tattoo than with. And we're still always in the top 10 lists of safest countries in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:40 PM
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High masculinity is high energy? What? Low anxiety and fear correlates to low empathy? I'm very confused? Some of the most low fear, low anxiety, I'm going to go jump of a plane people are also very kind and very empathetic. You just make sure while dating someone that if they show you or others low empathy, that you remove them from your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:42 PM
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I mean, I'm a nerdy woman with a nerdy man so don't disagree But man a lot of those mtg and d&d men aren't all that either. Deodorant exists! And stop looking at me like I'm a unicorn. So many nerd men need to learn social skills and to stop thinking that I'm here spending so much of my time faking my hobbies for one of their crusty asses. Just because you choose to engage in media by memorizing episodes and facts doesn't mean everyone else isn't "a true fan"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:41 PM
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You're missing the point. The point is to make the girl "feel" you are interesting by ensuring a good flow of conversation. Travel is easy to make interesting, but if you're a shit conversationalist and don't know how to incorporate her into the conversation then it ends up being a boring date ya feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:36 PM
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Okay I'm going to differ here and say that "boring" isn't tied to what you do necessarily. Because I've met "boring" travellers and "interesting" homebodies. A lot of the time, the problem people run into, is sparking enough interest to turn date 1 into date 2. There have been lots of times a girl has told me "he was fine, just boring" and what she actually means is "I didn't really have fun and conversation was hard and didn't flow" So when a guy is boring, it's more "he didn't spark my interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:07 PM
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Gender nonconforming women are being pushed out of women's bathrooms for appearing too masculine, This is nowhere close to a mainstream feminist position. They're called TERFs and are banned from almost all mainstream feminist subreddits or movements. So yes, it's feminists who are most strongly pushing for women to be feminine Nope. Very few feminists believe this at all. Go to literally any feminist sub. If anything the biggest issue about gender roles is whether choice feminism is valid. It i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:55 AM
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Oh my god. This sub makes me think everyone is an alien who needs step by step instructions for human interaction. No, you should not settle for someone just because they're "your looks match" or "they have no options". You should find someone who enriches your life and makes you happier than you were when you were single. This means looking at compatibility and affection and whether they can compromise and be emotionally intelligent and yes who you are sexually attracted to You also shouldn't j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:42 AM
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Key point: reasonable and respectful Most men who are already in the RP or incel trap are neither reasonable nor respectful. Again, if they are men who want to discuss say, make suicide rates, by all means! Or male homelessness! Or male sexual assault victims! But men on the internet generally want to have a conversation on "why wahmen won't have sex with me!!!" And "feminism made wahmen not want to serve men and be housewives"!! But also they want housewives who won't demand alimony. 💁 Men like…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:31 AM
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Honestly, I think if a man becomes a person who wants to remove women's rights because we don't want to engage with someone who wants to take my rights away... He was already a misogynist from the start. A white man who would turn KKK just because a black dude called him a "cracker" was already racist. He's already dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:55 PM
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The problem is that it's very hard to start dialogue with men when almost all them focus on: sex, sex, sex, women shouldn't have bodily autonomy, sex, sex, sex, women should stay in the kitchen because x,y,z, sex, sex, sex, women brainwashed by feminism to not want to be submissive to men (ignoring all the vulnerabilities and consequences that come with it), sex, sex, sex, women should want to serve men and have them be led by men, sex, sex, sex. For a understanding and dialogue, men also need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:44 PM
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Men: abuse women, commit more violent crimes against women than vice versa, chant your body my choice gleefully, make rape jokes, actually rape women, parade underwear in courtrooms etc etc Women: wow men can be horrible Men: waaaah wahmen bad But men are the rational gender Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:51 PM
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That’s misandrist. I generally like Japan, but I disagree with that. I’ve been groped by women in bars. Wasn’t a big deal. Yes, I prioritize men over women, because, in my experience, women prioritize women over men. I am soooo saving this comment for future ammo against men here. How would you feel if I talked about women the way you are talking about men? Men already do and they do much worse. To be honest if all men did was talk bad, it would be a massive step up Why do women want women only …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:53 AM
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There never was a need for it. In Japan they have women only trains to stop male gropers They have done as campaigns and all that but you can't catch gropers in a packed subway a lot of times. Are you saying you'd rather on balance women get attacked and molested so that men's fee fees don't get hurt? If so, lol to the rational gender. Sororities are way worse than frats. You’re lucky you don’t live in a place with them. When was the last time a sorority was in a rape scandal? Men aren’t praised…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:13 AM
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If they're doing something to preserve the money and also do something with their lives that isn't just hedonism sure. Like I don't know I love hobbies and things, but let's face it you can't spend all day, 24/7 just on a hobby Volunteer or something
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:15 PM
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No more women-only space Sure, if men remove the need for it. No more circumcision I'm against circumcision anyway No more false rape allegations No more rape! No more sororities No more frats Don't live in a place with them anyway No more double standards (women can say penis but men get called out for saying saints, women can flirt more aggressively than men and get away with it, etc…) No more double standards! Men shouldn't be praised for sex while women are called sluts Women should be able …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:10 PM
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I will learn to feel safe around men if men get over their misogyny and all places are safe for women. That means: I experience zero catcalling all men I encounter learn to stop at a no no domestic violence rates no sexual assaults no rapes no harassment anywhere, even online
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:57 PM
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I am 30+ years old and have never been, nor do I want to be, in a fight
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:52 AM
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That sounds like such an insecure man omg.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:33 AM
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You are allowed to find more than one person attractive. But most people want to feel like there was something particular about them that drew you in. They don't want to be asked out because they're vaguely womanly shaped. Asking people who know each other in quick succession tells them you rent looking for her to be your girlfriend. You're wanting a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:21 AM
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I'm the main character of my life though. I don't want to be with someone because I'm "just someone else." At that stage I might as well get myself more dogs for affection. I want to be loved and wanted for who I am. If I'm interchangeable with everyone else, then why bother investing time and effort into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:17 AM
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What's the debate? I think open marriage works for some people, but not others. I want everyone to think what makes a marriage work. The amount of communication, compromise, and effort that has to come from both parties. An open marriage will add an extra layer of communication, compromise and effort... And that's if both people are mutually happy with the decision to open. If one of those people is even slightly doubtful or forced into it.... It becomes a big minefield. All those swinger couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:06 AM
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Also yes, but when women do it they're justified in hyping up each other's paranoia, and when men do it clearly they're just misogynistic woman-hating incels. There's a huge double standard on who is "allowed" to be seen as victims and who is allowed to use their victimization as a cudgel to beat the others with. And it's not men. I think a lot of this tends to be the systematic impacts of misogyny vs misandry in society. There is a perception that a man who hates women can do a lot more harm - …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:18 AM
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I think one of the biggest issues we've had, is that so much discourse happens online, which allows for the least amount of nuance to happen. I also think that what tends to happen is that, inevitably, bad experiences with one gender, makes you more on guard and more aggressive for the next time. For example, a man who's gf cheated on him and was emotionally abusive might end up with big trust issues. Unfortunately, that might translate to being bitter about all women. And unfortunately being bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:48 AM
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I don't think non-contradictory advice exists without a hive mind. There is a large section of the female population that won't mind going on a date with a stranger from a club or bar. There's also a large section of the female population that would only date a man who they're already slightly familiar with or through social groups. There's a large section of the female population who only swipe on very handsome men on apps but would happily date a less handsome man that she's met in real life b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:42 AM
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Because this sub is infested by people with no social skills and is obsessed with iron clad definitions. They're all people who want the world to be a video game with obvious iron clad rules
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:00 AM
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I'm in my 30s and I'm still saying this 💁
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:45 PM
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Exactly! I love myself and I would like to live longer and healthier, so I need to work on being healthier. I love myself and I don't want to be paying rent and moving houses all the time when I'm 60, so I work on getting a good job I love myself and want to enjoy my life, this means I should get myself some hobbies and give myself some friends! The amount of people who say "im so lonely and I'm so sad I don't have friends/hobbies and how they hate their bodies etc" but then don't do anything ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:43 PM
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It's called autonomy and freedom If I am with a man, I am compromising certain freedoms that I have when I'm single. That's okay, because in theory we should love our partners and they are compromising back. Also, this is why you make sure your partner is someone who aligns and is compatible with your deal breakers On the other hand, relying on one man and compromising your own autonomy for someone who might not be compatible long term and who you will be stuck with because you don't have the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:02 PM
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Why does saying no make me a resentful bitch? And if a man viewed my marriage as "monopolize sexuality" then he should get the fuck out of my life. There are times when people are in the mood, there are times when people's mood can shift, and there are times when that mood is a "no". If that person can't accept that the third happens then they aren't mature enough for a marriage. Personally if someone felt being told no makes me a resentful bitch, then a divorce will be imminent anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:46 AM
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If not having sex on tap is supposed to be cruel then you have never seen any hardship in life. Cheating on someone is far crueler than being told "no" If you have incompatible libidos you probably should have figured that your before marriage. If you are in a full dead bedroom you should divorce and break up before you shear. There is only one time cheating is okay... Physical abuse, rape, and human trafficking. Everything else, be up front, be an adult and divorce first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:39 PM
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I care about my husband, but sex should be something we both want to do. If I'm not in the mood I am not in then mood and vice versa If he cheats it's divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:39 PM
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I think AI will be exploited by the rich capitalist classes and cause mass unemployment, with more being unemployed than employed due to AI. it's not like the whole we swapped horses for taxis, it's it will employ 5 coders and lay off 100s. And he using AI in schools etc will degrade a generations critical thinking skills, and even allowing more propaganda to get through that we already have. So people will blindly follow their search engines, even if they were trained by Elon Musk and start spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:12 AM
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Oh I fully disagree with the take of that woman. My underlying philosophy is that men are trash, women are trash, and nonbinary people are trash. Because humans are trash. Everyone has issues and every person I know is flawed on some way. The big question is whether your flaws are compatible flaws ya know? I just think that AI can be very biased depending on how it's been trained and who wrote the algorithm. Chat gpt is pretty open source, so I doubt it's "unbiasedness"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:01 AM
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I've found personal anecdotes to not necessarily be useful in judging the system itself, hence the links But essentially chat gpt is trained by data generated by humans. Humans are biased and prejudiced, so it will leech in regardless. Using chat gpt as your source for "see! I'm right! It's unbiased from AI" is simply incorrect If it's trained by humans, it's as biased as humans
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:33 AM
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Sure it's usually a mix of the two, but I would never call AI uncorrupted or unbiased. It truly isn't. https://www.cigionline.org/articles/generative-ai-tools-are-perpetuating-harmful-gender-stereotypes/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:56 AM
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Because if I don't want sex pressuring me into it makes me dryer than the Sahara and makes me resentful That's a one way ticket to breaking up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:49 AM
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You know that AI also gets trained by what is fed to it right? Like if it's fed on just the entirety of the internet, which includes incel bullshit they'll spout that too And guess who's more likely to be chronically online and writing articles?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:44 AM
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Yeah. I'm a woman who have a lot of family members who enjoy fishing. Legit the joke is that for everybody's "what we did this summer essay" like half of them are about fishing. But almost zero of them fish in their dating apps. The ones who do? Kinda the conservative who's personality revolves around red neck. It's not about fishing as a hobby. It's what you're unintentionally broadcasting to the world. Lots people go to the gym. I love a man that exercises and is fit. But I'd never swipe on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:19 AM
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Nope, I don't disagree. I have always maintained that there are social privileges that women enjoy. But like also you think sexual harassment and assault are "men being mean?" Lol my friend got sexually harassed out a job and it's "men being mean?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:03 PM
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Probably because op says "women have a head start in life!" And at some point in the comment thread that women have the moral guts to complain like masters comparing themselves to slaves. "Being desired" is not a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:20 PM
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No man in my life has ever been to war so no, I don't particularly compare it. I might as well compare the average man to oppressed women in Afghanistan who aren't even allowed to see with two eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:08 AM
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Men feel oppressed because of the social injustice of women not dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:16 AM
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Was it a privilege when grown men screamed at me to show my tits from a car when I was 12? Was it a privilege to be harassed and groped if I want to party when I just want to dance with my female friends? Like would it kill men to ask first? Was it a privilege when I tried to do a metal working class and all the boys jeered at me any time I made a mistake? Was it a privilege when seatbelts and safety standards and medicine are designed and tested for men first? Was it a privilege when the signs …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:55 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:28 AM
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In that case then either: A) she's just a dramatic person B) the issue is the delivery and the context If you're already having an argument then it does sound like you're calling her stupid, at least at that point in time. So she's reacting to the implied insult, not the analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:01 AM
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Depends on the context and the circumstance. Every man who has ever used " a master key" analogy to me has been sexist. I will almost immediately take offence to that analogy and will take it as an insult immediately. In fact certain analogies I just associate with sexist or conservative men almost immediately. And if a male friend of mine said them they would have to either take that analogy back and apologize or stop being my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 01:24 AM
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It depends on the analogy and the context. No, the pot calling the kettle black isn't necessarily wrong because we all know what this is referring to. And also it's an equal analogy. The problem is that not everyone agrees in the premise of an analogy. For example I have heard of women described as a "treasure" to be hidden and kept away from "thieves" (aka men). And that's why women should stay modest and quiet. (I grew up religious) The problem here obviously is that "treasure" is an object wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:55 AM
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I want a partner in life, someone who makes me happier to be with him than without I can list traits all I want, but that's what it boils down to Do you make me happy when I come home? Are you someone who makes me happy when you come home? When I think of the future with you, does it make me happy? That's it. That's the end game. If you're a bad partner or someone who causes me anxiety and stress then I'm not happy to come home to you. If you're a bad partner or someone who causes me anxiety and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:26 PM
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I'm not saying it can't work, I'm saying it doesn't work. It can work if women start acknowledging what's happening, so that they have agency and know the full consequences of the choices they're making, then perhaps they won't be blindsided by the actual truth of reality. Have you ever thought that there are other things driving unhappiness? We're at politically divided times, we are at the height of unbridled capitalism, and economic stability is out of reach for many. Seems to me that it's co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:14 AM
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Your first link has no causes stated, just that suicide rates among white people have soared. Our results indicate that low-SDI (Socio-demographic Index) regions have experienced the greatest absolute increase in depressive disorder cases [25], likely due to limited mental health services [8, 26], economic instability, and high social stress. Not showing a link to gender equality and women being depressed 3rd link - Nothing here links birth rate and depression (and doesn't account for confunding…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:22 AM
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You'd need to show proof that the relationship is causal. You then use that proof to accurately interpret data. Again highschool math You have shown no proof so far, just correlation. But I suppose you'd rather just throw your shit take out there with no causal proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:14 AM
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And men hating women create women who insult penises. So really who's at fault here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:04 AM
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Eh. Doesn't insult his masculinity enough. I'm not defending myself here for the record, as I said I don't think what I did was right. I'm open to alternatives. I want to actually insult his actual alpha bro energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:36 AM
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Lmao. I've called politicians rusty cunts... So no that's not a term of endearment at all. First, I don't know why you feel the need to insult Andrew Tate or other male influencers. They are random men who don't even know about your existence. Maybe seek therapy for that. Eh if im talking about them IRL in any capacity, they're getting insulted. Second, there's a bunch of things you can insult Andrew Tate for. He's an egotistical narcissist. He prides himself on honor but has no qualms scamming …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:16 AM
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As I said, I acknowledge that it wasn't the best thing to do and that im open to learning better ways of insulting men. But then, I'm from a place where we call people cunts so SDE seems really mild as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:38 AM
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I think everything depends on the woman and the man involved. Some women have "high standards" until they "catch feelings" Some women are people pleasers who have a hard time standing up for themselves. Some women are head strong and refuse to settle Some women care for looks and casual sex. Some don't Some women have low self worth. Some women have high self worth Some women are arrogant Some women need men Some women don't need men at all Some women want a man who is a leader Some women would …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:39 PM
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... I don't know the last time anyone talked about genital size anywhere near me. I have said small dick energy in reference to Andrew Tate and other specifically macho macho alpha males morons because I want to make them look as lame as possible to anyone in earshot. I acknowledge that that might not be the best wording, so I'm open to alternatives to call them something else that's specifically attacking their stupid masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:57 PM
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Doesn't say that it's because of feminism, causation is not correlation is something I learned at statistics at 15. I guess the rational gender forgot how to math
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:11 PM
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Things can always go wrong in life, when we drive to work things can go wrong, it's up to the both the people invovle to ensure they try their best to make it work, and up to the woman to vet that the man she's with isn't a psycho. So as always men get the work that pays and gives them a safety net and women don't because "CooSE BeTTER" Sounds like a bad deal Women absolutely have a safety net, look at divorce court ✓ Not enough to justify lost wages They're depressed more than ever ✓ They're co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:03 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:42 AM
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No as as much as staying at home. The "provider" gets to have a financial safety net. If something goes wrong, like someone died, someone leaves, your spouse cheats, your spouse doesn't make you happy, your spouse has anger issues, your spouse is emotionally or physically abusive etc then the provider is relatively safer. They have a pension, they have a job, they have a work history etc. They can still leave and have a life after a relationship fails. The person at home gets none of this. Their…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 03:39 AM
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I think it depends on the state you are both at. Sometimes a great relationship is when two people "grow up together" or essentially heal together, with the caveat that their issues don't conflict (i.e. someone who gets triggered by yelling and shouting probably won't do well with someone who has anger issues. But two stubborn yellers might be able to overcome together) But if someone in the relationship is "more" healed than the other, it could easily lead to resentment and eventually a breakdo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:20 AM
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In order of priority: Compatibility of beliefs no homophobes, must be pro-choice, generally progressive, not religious, doesn't believe in gender roles, egalitarian, believes in equal partnership. I will kick out any hint of "I am the man of the house" mentality. In fact if my husband suddenly decided to go even slightly trad, he better be ready to sign divorce papers within the day. But he knows this and threatened to divorce me if I even thought of voting for our country's conservative party s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:53 AM
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mental health and suicide rates is a societal issue we need to deal with (which is why we need better mental health care in general) 50/50 custody. Custody should always default to 50/50 unless otherwise desired by the parents or in cases of abuse. NEETs. I think there's a wider issue due to the internet and video games that leads people to stay indoors and not interact with society. I do think this affects men more than women. I think we need to encourage outside socialisation when young. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:06 AM
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I'm still confused on what exactly you're arguing the difference is. Let's say woman A is outspoken and believes that gender roles are bad and that they shouldn't be enforced. She herself is willing to pay for dates and is contributing to the household expenses proportionally. But also she enjoys dressing in a stereotypically feminine manner and so is after a man who dresses in a stereotypically male manner. Is she supposed to be a hypocrite? Woman B is against gender roles and is radically femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:30 AM
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I don't disagree, but I also think that there's a difference between "women and men shouldn't be confined by gender roles expectations" and "I am good at x so I am seeking a y" For example I don't believe in gender roles and I believe that we should both give each other Valentine's gifts But also I'm good with numbers and in my culture (Asian) the household budget is controlled by the woman. So I do the household budget. Is this gender roles? Conversely men tend to be stronger ... Is it gender r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:57 PM
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Because you ignoring the first no, signals that you may likely also ignore the second, third and fourth no. The next 10 seconds isn't mild discomfort. It's me trying to figure out if saying no a second time is going to be safe and hoping that it is while trying to figure out my exit strategy. I'm generally not bothered about being approached or asked out. I find it flattering unless I'm actively doing something (reading a book). But the moment the first no is ignored, I start feeling fear
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:13 AM
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I don't care about other people. I chose to keep mine because I like my immigrant last name and I don't want to think about all the paperwork
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:27 PM
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I think people need to define emotional. Like, I don't think men (or women) enjoy overly emotional women either. Like the ones who cry at the drop of a hat or something. Angry men are emotional too. And grumpy men and sulking men. If you're a normal person with normal emotional regulation that is fine. I will concede that men are more tolerant of overtly emotional women than vice versa, but honestly it's just not attractive for someone of either gender to cry, sulk or get angry over small things…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:26 PM
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I'm not blind, so I'll check them out but I wouldn't flirt or anything. That's just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:36 PM
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He's also allowed a one off lap dance at bachelors
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:07 PM
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Just because small gender variations exist doesn't mean female submission should be expected or enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:46 AM
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And parents are shown to coddle and talk to baby girls more than baby boys 💁 Not to mention gender differences do not equal "women like to be submissive and controlled" Let's say Men like to be more impulsive. Okay, does that mean they're allowed to be oppressors? Women like humanities more. Okay does that mean we should restrict women's rights and set barriers that make it harder to work in science and math?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:41 AM
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Have you controlled for factors like... Women were told they weren't allowed to be outside and doing creative things, being knowledgeable, and strong? No such thing as a proper conclusion if you don't account for controlling any and all confunding variables. Any elementary science class could tell you that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:28 AM
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... Ever thought that for some people full on paying for sex is different from a one off lap dance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:51 AM
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If you're after a woman who is a follower then yes you do. I've never been against the whole "be the best version of yourself" and "self improvement" shit. It's all the sexist AWALT and women are oldest children in the house" It's when the red pill forgets nuance that it goes awry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:52 AM
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Remember how I said it's a spectrum? Not every woman is a follower. Some, like myself, just want general life competence as opposed to leadership. Don't be a doormat we have to drag around, but you don't need to be a leader either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:54 PM
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Have you ever listened to any rap music ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:46 AM
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And I can give you multitudes of examples about a not conventionally attractive (obese), not a very good provider (basically unemployed), with bad hygiene, and had a gf. All of which is this one guy I knew from university.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:21 PM
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For once, I agree with you. Most women do not want a full dominant "you should submit to me" man, most women also don't want a doormat. It's a spectrum and most people fall in the middle. I personally don't enjoy rigid or authoritative men. Truly I don't. Some women do, that's okay too. But I still want someone with overall life competence, who knows what they want and are able to see things through. I still want someone who can look at the trials and tribulations of life and not break down over…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:46 PM
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One - women are not loved unconditionally. It's still reliant on her either being a nurturing person in your life, her willingness to have sex with a man or her cleaning. Or her contribution to the household. Men generally do not (and never have) been willing to love an unattractive, non sexual, not cooking, not cleaning, no job, no contribution woman. Adults should not love unconditionally. I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. If you're a terrible person or someone who makes other people's life wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:52 PM
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Eh I think this is the same as "women don't give me anything but sex" There are many men who are emotionally mature, willing to do 50/50 housework and even childcare out there. But you have to find them, filter for them and see if the rest of their values/lifestyles fit yours. Perhaps that means there's less of them to go around than women hope, but in my experience lots of women are also emotionally immature and not perfect partners either. Just means the dramatic low emotional intelligence cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:20 AM
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I understand, but I don't care. Some people have a biological urge to be pdfiles, we don't have to accept that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:26 PM
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All the men I've ever dated have been part of my extended social circle. By definition my social circle is all leftists, pro-choice, pro-civil rights movements and are almost by default against sexists, homophobia, transphobia etc We had one "love the sinner, hate the sin" type Christian and she stopped getting invited within weeks. So if almost all political vetting has been done by being part of that circle. Last election (not in America btw) we had an election watch party and almost everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:13 PM
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And op is free to find a woman who supports it 💁
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:57 AM
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I don't see why you can't decouple love from genetic transmission
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:50 AM
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Do I get choose designer sperm too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:45 AM
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I find the concept of designer babies strange and bordering on eugenics. If you're so turned off by the concept of my (non-medical issue) genes you really shouldn't be dating me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:37 AM
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Depends on the genes. If it's a medical gene that leads to a disability and it's something we both want then sure. If it's just "height, "face", "body type" or anything not an actual disability he can gtfo. I'm not a walking womb for designer babies. This isn't build a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:21 AM
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Because this is PPD and women need to take accountability for their choices and men are angels who never have to take accountability because they're men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:08 PM
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With their abuse stats? No thank you. It wouldn't be so bad if the thin blue line didn't protect each other, but as it is a cop could show up to a house of another cop for a DV call and probably still cover up for the other cop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:32 PM
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Fashion. Like honestly that's like asking why flared jeans are back.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:44 PM
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"not his type" and "bare minimum" are two different things. No his usual type? That's fine. Putting his bare minimum? I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:28 PM
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You could also see that both could be true at the same time. Lots of 19 year olds were dating 20-22 year olds That's a full age bracket up. But also not huge age gaps at all. So a 28 year old married to a 31 year old is pretty common. And also skewing statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:53 PM
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Yes. No one is entitled to the use of my body if I don't want it to be used. Pregnancy and childbirth plus it's associated physical and financial and mental costs shouldn't be something that is forced on someone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:56 AM
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It's rational to fight for access to my peeper getting wet but not for healthcare because i don't actually care about other people. But women never date good men, only bad boys! Psst. If you hinge your support of someone's human rights on getting sex you're probably not a good guy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:00 AM
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Men are the rational gendeeeeeer!!!! But also if you don't make women have sex with them we're going to start destroying everything and/or take away your rights! But men are the rational gender and should be the head of the Household 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:00 AM
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Not really. No one is entitled to the use of another's body part. If I say I don't want to have someone use my organs to live that's my right. It just so happens that doing so means that the fetus is not viable. And honestly I love how people screech about "what about the murdered baby???! Are probably the same people who wouldn't care if that baby had a bad home life or childhood or lives in poverty because *hurrdurrr wahmen single mothers wahmen no take my taxes *
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:30 AM
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Why would I date a man who loves going to strip clubs and getting lap dances? I wouldn't date him anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:26 AM
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PPD men: not getting sex is equal to you not getting healthcare!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:37 PM
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It is controlling and insecure to tell your partner to not wear revealing clothing or to not do an activity How about if you don't like girls who dress in sexy clothes or who clubs.... Don't date girls who do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:04 PM
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Or you pick someone you're secure with and isn't a drama queen? Gosh it's like.... Nuance exists!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:03 PM
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Incels or other manosphere adjacent men are an actually threat to women either physically or by getting into politics and taking away abortion rights. Men who don't like women having independence and not being submissive can be in an actual position of power. Men who hate that women don't date them have shit people and rammed their cars into people. Femcels.... Complain on the internet and are incredibly annoying. Let's have a look at the fact that when women on this sub complain about societal …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:48 AM
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Some of them are conflicting issues though. Like I care about women having human rights and being able to be independent. Whereas "me have no submissive wifu" and "It was better when women weren't in the workforce" are counter to that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:46 PM
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I don't particularly think it's a serious issue. I think hypocritical and sexist standards as an issue (i.e. short skirts make you a slut!) but every country and culture in the world has a beauty standard Like body positivity is great for both genders! But also it's about number 100000 of things I care about. Between the economy, Gaza, actual abortion rights, Ukraine, rising poverty, homelessness, shitty education in schools, shitty health care....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:22 AM
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Because the OP claims that men have to care about women's issues but not vice versa Id say id care about men's issues too that aren't "wahmen bad!" And "feminism bad"!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:35 AM
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Okay. Then we don't procreate. That's kind of the point Men should stop whining about it then
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:59 PM
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its because women expect men to be dominant and traditional while not olding themsrlves to the standards that men set on them Are you aware of this thing called.... Just don't date women who expect a traditional man? Like dating is voluntary. You don't have to date people that don't meet your standards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:59 PM
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Which issues? Because it feels like the only issue women dgaf about is men not being able to have sex and date. Women care about homeless men and men's suicide, which are you know actual issues. There are feminists against the draft and a lot of teachers actually care about boys educational performances. But inevitably men complain about "western women" and "feminists" not wanting to be submissive stay at home wifey or girls not wanting to have sex with them. Like I give those men the same time …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:04 PM
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In that case you are also hypocritical for being okay with some taxes but not others. You need to either advocate for full stateless and no taxation and government or advocate for governments to have government mandated girlfriends and state sanctioned rape. Because it's all or nothing right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:45 AM
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Hope this helps you understand my position. And yet many things that don't directly benefit us right now indirectly benefit all of us. Sure I may pay for someone's cancer treatment today, but that means I'll get my broken hip looked at in a few years. We all need police officers even if I have personally never had an interaction with a police officer except for breath tests while driving. We all need public transport to reduce congestion even if we primarily drive. In order to have a more prospe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:31 AM
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"Muh schools" is ridiculous. The vast majority of public schools are a net Evil on community and their destruction would be a net benefit for the moral progress of our civilization. Preferably with the jailing of nearly all teachers too. And I have lost all faith in having a conversation. No point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:18 AM
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Why is taxation good if it benefits you but bad if it does not? I don't have children but believe that it should fund schools. Because you know, the more educated and prosperous the society I live in the less violence there is. For that matter I have never been unemployed but support an unemployment benefit because: I believe everyone deserves to have their basic needs met having an income that meets your basic needs means people are less likely to commit violent crime. No it doesn't eliminate i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:14 AM
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Why is it redistribution of wealth from men to women? Do men not use roads? Schools? Hospitals? Do men all want to live like Rambo with no police force or fire trucks? And before "women take out more than men on average!" Are the recipients of this more likely to be single mothers? In which case, wouldn't the responsibility for the increase tax likely be on the men who did not take custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:11 AM
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So you believe in a fully tax free state?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:08 AM
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You think taxation and labour laws equal to.... Legislating sex and romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:56 AM
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Men: women need to help birthrates! But also shouldn't have safety nets! I'm considering children. If I have no safety nets I'm getting a hysterectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:58 PM
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These are two different statements that are not mutually exclusive. No it's not your job to fix people. And also you can't expect perfection. Everyone makes mistakes. No one is perfect. Grace should be given and received. Especially when you're young and dumb. But there are also boundaries that should be upheld. It also really depends on where you are in life and how much it affects the other person Relationships should be reciprocal and that means that if one person is picking up all the emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:48 PM
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I get that they would feel hurt if the guy was not genuine and pretended to want a relationship to get pussy yes. But frankly, this doesn't happen 100% of the times....not at all in fact. Maybe, just maybe, the guy decided he doesn't like you enough for an ltr. Like.... shit happens. I did it myself with some guys... I didn't lead them on or anything, just decided they weren't for me. And that's fair and valid! But also the Internet is full of men talking about intentionally operating in grey ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:45 PM
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So don't take this the wrong way, but like ... You seem to have trouble putting yourself in the shows of someone with a different lifestyle or desires than you do? I understand for example that some people enjoy casual and that's their prerogative. But it seems like you're incapable of seeing that some people don't want casual would actually get their feelings hurt if they thought they were heading towards a relationship and then got broken up with? Like some people only want sex if they're conv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:10 PM
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Sure you can. Like i literally can't stay up past midnight anymore. And I can't remember the last time I was drunk. I'll go out and have a few drinks with friends. And sure maybe I'll go clubbing like once or twice a year but that's wiiildly different from someone who still likes to go out late a lot. And that's not a person for me at all. I'm more of a backyard bbq with a couple of drinks gal now than someone who actively parties And tbh I wouldn't want someone who actively parties like that as…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:08 PM
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Sure. Such a mindset is ok. Though I would argue from a purely personal opinion: how can you only want smth serious? Like in general? And that's a perfectly valid position. But also from my personal opinion, I'm not a person who enjoys casual dating. Either I like someone well enough to be in a relationship with them, which is at minimum exclusive and while not necessarily committed, must be on the route to be something committed. So essentially I date to find a long term relationship. No it's t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:32 AM
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I mean if you're only interested in a serious relationship right now you might want to only date a man who also only wants a serious relationship. Like you aren't judging him for being open to casual, you're saying "I only want a serious relationship. In order to have the best chance of that I'll filter out men who might want something casual" Again, no value judgement at all, just doing what you can to get what you want in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:30 AM
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My dude that's not how that works. People who were used to having a bustling and busy social life struggled with the pandemic. I struggled socially because I'm an extrovert. My female friend who was an introvert fucking loved it. Men with social circles struggled too So did families with children struggled because they got cut off from support networks. old people of both genders who were used to children and grandchildren that visited struggled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:35 AM
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I don't think it's undatable, but I do think there's a case to be made about a compounding effect. For example, manipulative and abusive people exist in all ages and social strata. However we could say that the effects of manipulation and abuse can be heightened in certain circumstances such as a relationship with a Superior or manager at work (power imbalance) or for example in age gap relationships where one partner is very young (half your age + 7) That is not to say that all office relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:13 PM
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Okay one - not all men are pedos And yes, if they start looking at girls who are friends of any children and therefore in our care that is a deal breaker However, for generic looking at hot, younger women? Why not? He has eyes. I have eyes. Just don't don't act on it or be creepy and stare
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 09:54 AM
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The emotionality of whose response? Because it seems to me that it's another example of saying women are being emotional and we should do something about that and ignoring the overwhelming emotionality of the said radicalized men Like male anger and male resentment and male disdain are all very big emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:29 AM
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Uh huh My logic: Society: oppress women Women: I don't like that. I'm kinda angry about that. Men: treats women badly Women: gets angry about being treated badly Men: gets angry at women for being angry Your logic: Society: oppress women Women: I don't like that. I'm kinda angry about that. Men: treats women badly Women: gets angry about being treated badly Men: well it's women's fault for being treated badly! And they're even complaining about it! That's why them being angry is their own fault …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:56 AM
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So...... Men did radicalize women then? Men: yells incoherently about things that were not the question Also men: men are rational gender!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:40 AM
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Supposedly? Okay I want you to give me a very simple answer. Is it okay for women to be excluded from the work force? Is it okay for women to be excluded from high paying careers? Is it okay for women to have no choice but to get married, even if they may not love the man but because it's better than being on the street? Is it okay for all the power in society? Do you think it's okay for women to have to live what their grandmother's lived through? That's a yes or no answer
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:27 AM
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The manosphere is just a response to that. BULLSHIT men radicalized women first. Points to all of history
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:02 AM
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Do about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:17 AM
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My favourite thing are men who are like "but they've never done creepy things when I'm around!" Like yes... You are not the person they are being creepy to. Amazing. Well done. A+.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:53 PM
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If we go with the idea that men are radicalized by women then it then follows that women are radicalized by men Imagine this. You're a girl, you're 12 years old in your school uniform and men (some of whom are adults) scream at you about your tits from their cars. Maybe you're attractive and men let you know exactly what they want to do to your body. Mind you, they don't care about how you feel about it. And you're a bitch if you walk away or they enjoy how uncomfortable it makes you. Maybe you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:19 PM
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