In my younger white knight/blue pill/idiot days I always chased after one girl, who I proclaimed my love for eventually to be shoot down. But that was not enough, I would continue being her 'friend' to hopefully one day get the chance I thought I would earn. Now this is nothing new to most men on this reddit. But after thinking back, 2 of the 3 girls I did have some succes with eventually (making out or more). And the weird thing was that this did not happen because I was always around and caring ect. But one girl I walked home one day, after I did a music preformance at an open mic. We where talking about alot of stuff, but I was kind of aloof, I felt great because the show went well and felt like nothing could touch me. We where standing in front of her door and talked some more. Eventually we talked about physical strenght, I boosted that I could lift her up and push her up against the wall with no problem. She kind of teased my into doing it, so with the confidence of the night still in my system, i picked her up carried her around a corner pushed her against the wall and lingered in front of her face, and said what now. Then we made out ect ect. She was never that drawn to me but in that moment I was like fucking catnip.

Another time, I invited a girl over to play some music. I was under the impression she had a boyfriend, and I do not tend to chase after said girls. So I was purely intressted in the music and to see how it went. We were drinking a bit but nothing to extreme. I noticed she was showing signs of intrests, but I brushed them of since I still thought she had a boyfriend. After awhile it was revealed she had broken up with him, so I now knew the signs would be backed up by action if I wanted it too. But I waited, and waited, was aloof, and pretended not to be intrested in her but in the music only. This drove her insane since she clearly was more intressted in the situation surrounding it. Anyway she eventually almost jumped my bones. Note even here I was still a white knigth/blue pill/idiot.

Now the realisation, since learning about MGTOW and female behavior, I thought I would experience it in this day and age, but even allong time ago this was always the case. And even with regard to myself, meaning that I've had experienced what it was like to act indifferent and aloof that drives girls crazy, and what being nice and considerate gets you. I always assumed it was the one or the other, but even with the same girls it was sometimes the one sometimes the other.

Now I do not intend to chase after girls anymore (in the sense of trying to date ect.) but it is good to realise that the signs where in my experience all along, I just needed a clear vission to look in my memories and finally understand why things went the way they went.

Sorry for the long story, bit I just wanted to share something I finally realised from my own experiences no less.