Low T, what changes after treatment?

6TimesDown7TimesUp · 2016-04-14T21:34:06+00:00

Diagnosed with low T, so after improving everything from sleep to diet and back again took the plunge. Took some getting dialed in but it has definitely been a huge win. Currently levels are trending right in the middle/upper range expected for my age (not doing Olympia level of test)

Some advice:

get a good doc. They should do more than just script you T cyp and leave it at that. I'm on HCG as well (keeps the nuts from shrinking and also upregulates other hormones you need) and a very low dose of anastrazole (.25mg/week) to deal with estrogen issues that can affect some people even on a low dose.
get blood work done regularly. Injecting yourself and having no idea what is going on with your levels is a sure recipe for failure. Blood work, blood work, blood work.
if you can do multiple injections per week rather than once a week and definitely no less than that. Multiple injections stop the rollercoaster of hormone levels that can happen with less frequent dosing.

I inject three times a week splitting my once a week dose in thirds and it evens out ups and downs nicely. In fact by tracking blood work I've lowered my t cyp dose over the last year as my levels are consistently in range and the "standard" once a week dose was too much, which makes sense when you think of the peaks and valleys that occur (often the blood work on once a week or less dosing will only capture a snapshot of the valleys for example)
TRT is not a silver bullet for what ails you. If you're a fat lazy fuck that doesn't lift and own your shit you'll still be a fat lazy fuck that doesn't own your shit or lift but your t levels will be better
get the rest of your health in order first. As part of going down the rabbit hole pre TRT I found out I had sleep apnea even though I'm not fat. Improved my sleep and health massively by getting that fixed. Lifted regularly beforehand as well although I bounced between programs and didn't progress as well as I do now. Regular TRT won't give you mad gainzz bro!! but it will help with recovery and is a great adjunct to an overall healthy lifestyle
do injections if you can. Some people can do the creams but they're messy and there's conversion to other things that can be problematic as it travels through the skin. I use insulin needles for both t cyp and HCG. Works like a charm, doesn't hurt (t cyp intramuscularly, HCG subcutaneously) Study up, read the science and make an educated decision.
read the science, decide if you can commit to the protocols for the long haul. Done right TRT can be a great addition to your health and MAP. Done wrong you're just being stupid and hurting yourself

Good luck

nastynickdr · 2016-04-14T20:47:29+00:00

I´ve always been kinda depressed / low energy / fatigued etc. Last year, I broke up with my fiancee and got worse. My dick completely died, couldnt get up to masturbate, couldnt get up to fuck, not even viagra/cialis helped. So I did the exams and my test was really low (not below minimum though). I got a GF during this period and it really sucked not being able to perform at all.

Doctor prescribed me 200mg testosterone (deposteron) once a week for 8 weeks. And androgel for a few more weeks.

Feels GOOD man. Felt like a man, like I never had. Strong will to do stuff, woke up energyzed, felt like talking to any pretty woman that crossed my path, morning wood everyday, a lot more assertive, felt like a monster when lifting, performed better at work. I understood why so many guys are addicted to roidz. I gained 12 lbs during those 8 weeks and I still kept 8 lbs (muscle) of what I gained today (1 year after)

Maybe your doctor will try other stuff before test. There are drugs like clomifen citrate that stimulates your natural test production, but since your T is below the minimum, most likely he will prescribe injections. And maybe after your levels are good, androgel.

Another thing you have to keep in mind: Stress fucks up your test. If you are stressed everyday, if your work is stressfull, your test will drop for sure. Check your cortisol levels as well.

Another important point: find the BEST doctor you can. Hormones control your body. Test controls your manhood. You screw your hormones, you are screwed, and depending on what you do, you are screwed for life. Once your balls shrink, you will have to inject test for the rest of your life. Theres a lot of stuff you can do to prevent this from happening. Get some books and read a lot about this. Dont put your life on the hands of a single doctor.

irateMD · 2016-04-15T03:43:47+00:00

6timesdown7timesup gave a nice summary of his experience. Most guys don't need to worry about hCG and aromatase inhibitors if you're tracking levels on therapy, but I'd listen to your own doctor. Some additional notes:

Bioavailable testosterone is the number that matters. I agree with brandor77 that a second test is needed, but it doesn't necessarily have to be from a different lab. It must be done in the morning (before 10am) and is supposed to be done while fasting for the most accurate results.
If your bioavailable testosterone is low, then your doc needs to check prolactin, FSH, LH, and do iron studies. If your doc doesn't know that, then get a specialist.
If bioavailable testosterone is in the normal range already, then the effects of bringing it up to the high-normal range won't be as dramatic, but it's still worth a shot.
Get your fitness up and body weight down to lower SHBG levels and maximize bioavailable testosterone. Zinc and magnesium can help guys with low levels to bring them up. Take the zinc and magnesium at different times of day than each other or anything with iron or calcium, if possible.

bogeyd6 · 2016-04-14T20:28:08+00:00

So you missed the weekend's workout ? For shame. You can certainly get the treatment, I had a friend who did it at age 39. He got acne again and aggression. We tease him non-stop just to piss him off real good. Anyways, it certainly is a safer treatment with other weird things that can happen. I'll let the md's weigh in on that stuff.

If you feel like you don't want to risk drugs yet, because you are younger, you try hitting the gym really hard and using natural methods to increase your testosterone.

BluepillProfessor · 2016-04-15T01:59:35+00:00

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Title	Low T, what changes after treatment?
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