So I learned the freaking hard way that you need to text for logistics. If you are giving a girl your nonsexual attention, you had better be setting up a meet.

But should I be flirting and teasing over text? Or will I just come across as not an Alpha Male?

I've been using Roosh's game plan so far: very short and curt. But I had this conversation on Online Dating today and the girl actually closed ME lol. I was flirty, built rapport, teased, and then she eventually was like "here's my Snap if you wanna add me." I wish I could give you screenshots but that app has them blocked lol. That made me think of YaReally's texting Game Plan. Which is kind of the opposite of Roosh. I realize OLD and texting have different rules, but it just made me think. I used the Roosh method because every time I tried anything else it blew up in my face and I just got used for my non-sexual attention. But today's interaction, and a lot of my other interactions, just made me think. My paraphrasing is kinda garbage, so I'll just quote.

What Roosh says about text game:"Any game strategy that depends on building attraction through the phone, a tool that girls primarily use to gain attention and relieve boredom, will ultimately fail. While long voice calls can create enough attraction to change a girl's mind about you, text messaging has an exceedingly temporary attraction boosting effect. Trying to maintain attraction by using funny or witty texts won't work. Maximize the attraction a girl has for you in person before you have to communicate by phone. When that communication is eventually in progress, ensure that it is short, functional, and centered on taking her out on a date."

"If you try to run a clownish text game, however, you'll think you're doing great because she's responding to your funny and ****y texts with exuberant emoticons, but suddenly she'll disappear when you ask for a date."

"This rule is often called the Jumbotron test. Your texts pass the test if they could be displayed on a Jumbotron screen in a giant sports stadium without the crowd bursting into derisive laughter."

And then YaReally says:

“Brad Pitt already has ultimate value to the girl.”Yep. A creepy/shy/low-value dude who uses jumbotron game is not the same as Brad Pitt usingjumbotron game...BP has established value so he can be a jumbotron.There are very few instances where a jumbotron text will ESTABLISH high-value where therewas none before.If you’re going to be jumbotronning, you’d better have been captivatingly high-value as **** inperson so you have high-value established and your jumbotron txts work.The prob for most guys learning game is that they aren’t good at the actual pickup and they getwhat’s already a pretty shaky number as it is because they don’t have the fundamentals downyet, so they seem “okay” to the girl...a nice/cool enough dude to give him a shot but they’re notgonna chase him down begging him to take their number.So this hypothetical guy learning game #-closes her with say a 5/10 value (Brad Pitt being a10/10 value , Matt King being a 1/10 value). But now he has to txt...if he worked on some solidtext game and learned to tease, build comfort/rapport, push/pull, roleplay, etc (ie – conveyinghis personality) he could bump his value up to like a 7/10 and she wouldn’t flake and wouldbang him.But he actively applies jumbotron txts so she doesn’t get any real glimpse into who he isbecause he’s being all aloof, which at a 7+/10 is fine, but as a 5/10? He’s gonna drop down to a4/10 because he isn’t interesting and wasn’t starting from a high enough value point and sheloses interest and/or flakes.Then he listens to the “I just tell girls lets **** and if they say no I Next that *****” dip****s whotell him she just couldn’t handle all his alphaness and actually he totally Next’ed her like a bosslolIf he had run a brilliant initial pickup, he’d be going into txting as like a 7/10 so he could affordto be aloof.This is why 1) when guys first start collecting #s in 30-second #-close rampages, they’redevastated to find out that 99% of those numbers flaked and 2) why we encourage guys to gofor the full close, not just the #...the further you can get in the pickup before having to resort totxting, the more value you’re going into the initial txt convo with.

“If you become yet another boring dude on text (“Hi, it’s Jim from last Friday. Do you want to get drinks next Saturday?”), you will not keep her interest. Ya, a lot of my buddies who end up friend zoned and flaked on txt boring **** like that. “How was your night? ” It’s awful. Every txt should push things toward a sexual vibe or at LEAST put her through some kind of emotions, good, bad, doesn’t matter, just SOMETHING. Like my first txt to a girl will be “just cause you got my number doesn’t mean I’m sending you pics of my ****. perv.” even if our conversation had nothing to do with that at all. Their txt is usually along the lines of “lol oh no i was hoping” and now we have a sexual vibe to our flirting. “whatre you up to?”“spanking it to your facebook pics. but it’s taking forever because they aren’t slutty enough.why are you such a prude?”“what are we gonna do on our date?”“well I figured we’d get hammered till we’re drunk and obnoxious and the bouncers throw usout for having sex on the pool table. But coffee and getting to know eachother works too.”“add me to facebook”“can’t. if I do I’ll be too busy

"Basically when she met you she was in a certain state. Then days later you txt with plans and its like who knows what state she’s in. Lazy, angry, hungover, busy with work, etc. So you want to stoke the fire up first and get her back in state THEN push for the meetup."

"The brief txts can work, but usually it’s because either 1) you built such epic rapport and value during the sarge that you’re like Brad Pitt to her or 2) by sheer fluke she happens to be in a good state and that’s just rolling the dice."

But yeah, this created a conflict in my mind after I hit up that girl. I like Roosh AND YaReally so I don't know which one to choose. I'd like input, thanks.